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Let me be candid and honest here my man. I cannot be sympathetic to your comments because this is how adult life has always been. From the moment I stepped out of my home and headed off to college I h

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it won't matter if his taxes ever come out.  it won't matter if his taxes don't ever come out.  you wanna know why?  because we already know what's in them. since early 2017 when people starting

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15 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Excellent piece from The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/?fbclid=IwAR1ibUvk4Y0BAuaApMda1AULe0s9DBAvu3Rmcl1ETYMz33JBSpyl6ZUb35Q
 

Trump is such a habitual liar that he is incapable of being honest, even when being honest would serve his interests. He is so impulsive, shortsighted, and undisciplined that he is unable to plan or even think beyond the moment. He is such a divisive and polarizing figure that he long ago lost the ability to unite the nation under any circumstances and for any cause. And he is so narcissistic and unreflective that he is completely incapable of learning from his mistakes. The president’s disordered personality makes him as ill-equipped to deal with a crisis as any president has ever been. With few exceptions, what Trump has said is not just useless; it is downright injurious.

Yeah, that's a fantastic article at articulating what's wrong with him.  Although "malignant shit funnel" is pretty comprehensive, also.

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Trump is going to regret saying this words "that's not my responsibility" about the testing problems. It's a perfect soundbite that should be played over and over again by Biden.  Trump could have answered that question in a hundred different ways that could have effectively been the same thing but he didn't. No one likes the person that says "that's not my job."

A better political and leader answer could have been, "the rollout of the tests did not meet my expectations and there will be a time to assess the breakdown and how we could have done better. In the meantime, I've asked for frequent updates on the test rollout, and what can I do to remove obstacles. My commitment is to help all Americans."

Instead Trump gets into these minor arguments with reporters. That's completely beneath a President.

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"the rollout of the tests did not meet my expectations and there will be a time to assess the breakdown and how we could have done better. In the meantime, I've asked for frequent updates on the test rollout, and what can I do to remove obstacles. My commitment is to help all Americans."

It's laughably sad that there's no universe in which he could or would say anything REMOTELY close to this coherent.  

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Trump is going to regret saying this words "that's not my responsibility" about the testing problems. It's a perfect soundbite that should be played over and over again by Biden.  Trump could have answered that question in a hundred different ways that could have effectively been the same thing but he didn't. No one likes the person that says "that's not my job."

A better political and leader answer could have been, "the rollout of the tests did not meet my expectations and there will be a time to assess the breakdown and how we could have done better. In the meantime, I've asked for frequent updates on the test rollout, and what can I do to remove obstacles. My commitment is to help all Americans."

Instead Trump gets into these minor arguments with reporters. That's completely beneath a President.

Yeah, for once, his malfeasance is going to be easy to place in digestible sound bites for which the GOP sound bite machine will have little response.

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great point by Frum. Real estate developers like Trump always count on a higher power not calling their bluff to foreclose. "Foreclose on my $1b casino, then you have to write down your assets by $400m.  have fun telling that to your board."   Trump doesn't have anyone above him to bail him out like in his private business.

And Powell and the Fed do not have the ability to prop up the stock market.

There are many retirement account holders who hold onto the believe that they can't sell into a panic because they're afraid they will miss out on the recovery. Wall St counts on this fear. As this drags on, those passive investors could slowly start to snowball into a major group that starts to cash out into "safe" funds.

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great point by Frum. Real estate developers like Trump always count on a higher power not calling their bluff to foreclose. "Foreclose on my $1b casino, then you have to write down your assets by $400m.  have fun telling that to your board."   Trump doesn't have anyone above him to bail him out like in his private business.

And Powell and the Fed do not have the ability to prop up the stock market.

There are many retirement account holders who hold onto the believe that they can't sell into a panic because they're afraid they will miss out on the recovery. Wall St counts on this fear. As this drags on, those passive investors could slowly start to snowball into a major group that starts to cash out into "safe" funds.

Real estate developers, with a boost from the Hunt brothers, developed the amazing concept of "lender liability."  Which basically states, "you enticed me into this horrible deal by providing me favorable financing."  They can be real scumbags.

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1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

Trump is such a habitual liar that he is incapable of being honest [....] He is such a divisive and polarizing figure that he long ago lost the ability to unite the nation under any circumstances and for any cause. 

and this is why Republicans love him so much.

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30 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I started the process of refinancing my mortgage this morning.  Knocking off a point and half, paying it off 8 years earlier and saving 50k.  Thanks for crashing the economy Donald.

Don't want to get too personal, but what kind of interest rates are out there for people with excellent credit?

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24 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

his whole life is a ponzi scheme.  how hard would it be to get that forever changed to "trump scheme"?

is this something i can start working on?  these four years might just be worth it after all.

While I totally get the sentiment, it's not really applicable.  Trump has been smart enough not to use OPM, except lender money.  He's figured out how to fuck lenders, which only exposes you to a one-on-one lawsuit.

If he'd gone public, he'd be in jail right now.

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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

 Trump has been smart enough not to use OPM, except lender money. 

does this count the times he's used taxpayer money, charitable contributions, or campaign funds to pay for personal shit or reimburse himself?  or try to pay for government shit he wants to do?  he's always used some sort of float to stave off creditors.  just because the specific legal definition of a ponzi scheme doesn't apply doesn't mean he's not basically doing the same shit.  applying for yet another credit card to pay off your current credit card isn't a ponzi scheme, but the practical purpose is the same.

also stop pissing in my corn flakes, it's monday.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump is going to regret saying this words "that's not my responsibility" about the testing problems.

I'm slightly annoyed that I haven't been annoyed by how many times that has been repeated today.  That needs to be a hit single.  We can do better.

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3 hours ago, Thrawn said:

The base of his base aren’t going to give a shit what lies he tells. However, I believe we are starting see these right leaning independents are getting tired of his shit. Plus one of the big reasons those people in that category go along with his stupid shit is because they are happy with their 401k. They just don’t want to rock the boat in that regard. Well, even if it isn’t Trump’s fault, that ship has sailed. 

I think you vastly underestimate how much blatant racism plays a part in the right leaning independents being all in on the Trump circus.

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20 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

does this count the times he's used taxpayer money, charitable contributions, or campaign funds to pay for personal shit or reimburse himself?  or try to pay for government shit he wants to do?  he's always used some sort of float to stave off creditors.  just because the specific legal definition of a ponzi scheme doesn't apply doesn't mean he's not basically doing the same shit.  applying for yet another credit card to pay off your current credit card isn't a ponzi scheme, but the practical purpose is the same.

also stop pissing in my corn flakes, it's monday.

Well, that's why I said I get the sentiment.  The other thing is Trump never pays anyone but himself.  A Ponzi scheme requires a payout.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Cuomo is essentially the de facto face of good leadership so far.  No surprise Trump sees him as a problem.

For fuck's sake I want off this ride.  God damn I am so tired of unwise decisions.

Cuomo's press conference did go out of the way a few times to poke Trump's performance and absurd lack of execution.  I was waiting on Fat Donny to respond.  But Cuomo's gigging of Trump was a simple reality of contrast, highlighting Trump's style of chaos, inaction, denial, lies and lack of curiosity for anything that isn't directly about him.  Cuomo's address and planning, even if it's not ultimately productive, was just gravity detailing what the country hasn't seen from the Executive Branch.  Trump just watching someone simply shuffle the cards of reality and embrace what's in front of them without making it about them triggered his insecurity.  It's refreshing to witness that he knows he fucked this up, but typically disappointing that his idiocy is too strong to refrain from attacking the proactive.  

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1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

Man our kids are going to read about this shit one day and ask us how the fuck we let this orange tub of lard do this

Do you remember meemaw and papa?  They got really dumb as they got older, and they all voted.

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5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I'm sure he put it in quotes because that's what Cuomo told him. 

Definitely this - it's the new "No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet."  (I.e.  "I don't do more. I don't do more.  You do more."

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5 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Cuomo's press conference did go out of the way a few times to poke Trump's performance and absurd lack of execution.  I was waiting on Fat Donny to respond.  But Cuomo's gigging of Trump was a simple reality of contrast, highlighting Trump's style of chaos, inaction, denial, lies and lack of curiosity for anything that isn't directly about him.  Cuomo's address and planning, even if it's not ultimately productive, was just gravity detailing what the country hasn't seen from the Executive Branch.  Trump just watching someone simply shuffle the cards of reality and embrace what's in front of them without making it about them triggered his insecurity.  It's refreshing to witness that he knows he fucked this up, but typically disappointing that his idiocy is too strong to refrain from attacking the proactive.  

i didn't hear all of it, but i heard him compliment the president and vice-president (by title, not name) at least once.

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I get the feeling that Trump is currently seething with resentment with every clip of governors, Republican or Democrat, systematically addressing a path forward that inevitably defines everything he couldn't do. 

"And why, why in the fuck can't these Republican cocksucker governors take one goddamn second to fucking lend me just one motherfucking ounce of fucking praise while they grandstand as a responsible leader tasked with a job?  Do they not understand how this is impacting ME?  Motherfuckers!  Don't they know what is at stake?  What about ME?"

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4 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i didn't hear all of it, but i heard him compliment the president and vice-president (by title, not name) at least once.

True.  I also heard about the "lack of response" from the federal government and "what we haven't seen on the federal level."

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5 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i didn't hear all of it, but i heard him compliment the president and vice-president (by title, not name) at least once.

I don't know what you're referring to, but any praise he conferred was surely limited and specific.  His contempt for Trump & Pence is palpable.

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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't know what you're referring to, but any praise he conferred was surely limited and specific.  His contempt for Trump & Pence is palpable.

Well, sometimes people, grown ups in public positions, hide their contempt when something larger is at stake.

Astonishing, I know.

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