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9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

all immigration suspended. Once closed, it’ll never be the same. Stephen Miller is toasting champagne somewhere 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/20/trump-suspend-immigration-coronavirus-197755
 

 

I'm sure Stephen is assembling additional deportation strategies for brown people. The following was an interesting take. Lives are cheap to this administration.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I'm sure Stephen is assembling additional deportation strategies for brown people. The following was an interesting take. Lives are cheap to this administration.

 

 

 

This makes too much sense for the Dotard. Stephen Miller for sure. And it will work with his base. And maybe some others. 

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9 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

Would...after she recovers of course.  I assume the condom is optional too.

Also, she is against masks but is wearing a bandana??

 

 

Same,  But that is a textbook example 'resting bitch face'

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8 hours ago, bluto said:


I know this is trump thread so there’s gonna be hot takes aplenty, and I’m generally on board with said takes. But come the fuck on with this rubbish.

Was there a rebuttal in that statement?  Name a country, that isn't a complete shit-hole, that you'd want to immigrate to the US from right now?

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10 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"The ratings are through the roof but I don't care about that."

He reminds me of the girl in high school that would tell you every single day how much she didn't care about what people thought of her.  She made damn sure you knew she didn't care if you saw her as a rebellious, against-the-grain, doesn't-play-by-society's rules individual with the attitude of someone who just didn't care about other's opinions; or if you saw her as a possible Homecoming Queen candidate, because that would be okay, too.  But either way, she doesn't care.  Unless you care enough to learn about how much she doesn't care.  

We are being ruled by a 17 year old attention-starved drama queen who somehow got the teacher's lounge to support his conquest. 

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2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Yup. It was the top story on CBS This Morning. And he hasn't actually issued the order yet. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. It's not like there's much immigration going on right now anyway. But you can't take anything he says seriously until he actually follows through. So much of it is just smoke, bullshit, and trial balloons. 

Smoke, Bullshit and Trial Balloons would be a good book or album title.  

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52 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Was there a rebuttal in that statement?  Name a country, that isn't a complete shit-hole, that you'd want to immigrate to the US from right now?

The way Canada, most of the EU, and the UK have backstopped their citizens during covid is 10x what we have done here.  A lot more compassionate.  In normal times, we still attract the fittest, but our system is designed to completely shit on the less fit.

Canada is probably the perfect balance between American fuck you I'm getting mine-ism and European caretakerism.  It allows for individual success while also providing a good safety net. 

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8 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

The way Canada, most of the EU, and the UK have backstopped their citizens during covid is 10x what we have done here.  A lot more compassionate.  In normal times, we still attract the fittest, but our system is designed to completely shit on the less fit.

Canada is probably the perfect balance between American fuck you I'm getting mine-ism and European caretakerism.  It allows for individual success while also providing a good safety net. 

America's dirty little secret is that your chances for individual success are extremely limited unless you are born into privilege. 

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1 minute ago, FondrenRoad said:

Socialism for you.  Socialism for you. Socialism for errbody!

Wait, you're poor? No socialism for you! We gave your boss 10 million dollars to pay you minimum wage instead. K. Thanks. Bye!

Socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else. That's the American way!

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WOW.  Still the best country in the world bar none for freedom, potential to succeed in business/life.  

Nah. Canada is a better balance of both.  Plenty are better for one or the other. 

A lot of y'all still think its the 1970s. The world has changed. 

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Just now, JustBecause said:

WOW.  Still the best country in the world bar none for freedom, potential to succeed in business/life.  

You don't get out much do you?

31 countries where the 'American Dream' is more attainable than in the US

US Ranks 15th in Freedom

Perhaps it's time to turn off Fox News, get out of the trailer park, and travel a bit.

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2 minutes ago, JustBecause said:

Tell me a better country.  Remember FREEDOM.

So you can’t cite anything to back up your claims? Typical. And believe me, my BFF and his wife live in Australia and they are in no hurry to get back watching this incompetent administration bungle our response from afar. But sure, freedom. 

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1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

You don't get out much do you?

31 countries where the 'American Dream' is more attainable than in the US

US Ranks 15th in Freedom

Perhaps it's time to turn off Fox News, get out of the trailer park, and travel a bit.

Not for the TOTAL package.  I don't see any country building a wall to keep unrelenting immigration under control.  

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Not for the TOTAL package.  I don't see any country building a wall to keep unrelenting immigration under control.  

 So not building a wall is you're rubric for whether a country is better or worse? 

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Not for the TOTAL package.  I don't see any country building a wall to keep unrelenting immigration under control.  

When did we build a wall between the US and Europe or Australia?  Seems pointless with the oceans there already. 

The UK is building a virtual wall because of xenophobia too. 

And Canada is better for the total package. Australia too, come to think of it. 

Somalia has more freedom. Go be a warlord. I hear its great. 

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1 minute ago, FondrenRoad said:

When did we build a wall between the US and Europe or Australia?  Seems pointless with the oceans there already. 

The UK is building a virtual wall because of xenophobia too. 

And Canada is better for the total package. Australia too, come to think of it. 

Somalia has more freedom. Go be a warlord. I hear its great. 

Yeah you're right.  The US shouldn't worry about immigration since we are such a shitty country.  No one wants to come here.

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Yeah you're right.  The US shouldn't worry about immigration since we are such a shitty country.  No one wants to come here.

Yes, people come here from adjacent destabilized countries. They do the same in Europe. Immigration from advanced industrialized nations is down to a trickle. The USA offers better opportunity than Mexico. No shit. That wasn't the question posed however.  

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55 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

 

I guess we are supposed to believe "@SexCounseling" over the Republicans' own Senate Intelligence Committee?  Because probably at about the same time trump was tweeting out this crap, the Senate was getting ready to release this:

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The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

Tuesday's bipartisan report, from a panel chaired by North Carolina Republican Richard Burr, undercuts Trump's years of efforts to portray allegations of Kremlin assistance to his campaign as a "hoax," driven by Democrats and a “deep state” embedded within the government bureaucracy.

The intelligence community’s initial January 2017 assessment of Moscow’s influence campaign included “specific intelligence reporting to support the assessment that [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and the Russian government demonstrated a preference for candidate Trump,” the committee’s report says. The panel also found “specific intelligence” to support the conclusion that Putin “approved and directed aspects” of the Kremlin’s interference efforts.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21/senate-intel-report-confirms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171

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ok, so yesterday at the end of his briefing, i asked about transcripts, because his "answer" to the final question was truly impressive, even for him.  so if you weren't watching yesterday, behold.  and remember this, any time somebody calls joe biden "incoherent".

(keep in mind also, that this is "cleaned up" according to the website)

Q    Mr. President, thank you.  Chanel Rion with One America News.

THE PRESIDENT:  Please.  Go ahead.

Q    We have — in going back to the topic of friendship and bipartisanship — Americans — with the exception of Pelosi, Schumer, and even Romney — Americans have seen an unprecedented chapter of bipartisanship and cooperation on the political landscape.  On a personal note, what has been the most significant signal that your relationship with Democrats, below the leadership level, have changed for the good of America?

THE PRESIDENT:  I think it’s a great question, because there is bipartisanship.  Look, we’re getting the Paycheck Plan.  It’s — already $350 billion was approved, essentially unanimously.  And we have another 250, which I think you’re going to find out is going to be a higher number than that.  Okay?  I won’t say it now, because I don’t know if they’ve released it or not, but it’s going to end up being more than $250 billion.  And this is going to small businesses and it’s going to workers.

And these are really bipartisan plans.  It’s a great thing that’s happening.  So I think the fact that we’re able to do all of this in a bipartisan way is great.

Now, the tax cuts that the Republicans did, we had no help from the Democrats, so you can’t say that’s bipartisan.  But this whole thing, getting our country back — and, you know, Nancy Pelosi has been — she’s very nasty.  She, you know, wasted a lot of time with the impeachment hoax.  It was a total hoax.  It went nowhere.  But — and that was not good.  And Schumer, I guess, did the same thing, but he sort of accepted it.  He just did what he was supposed to do, and he didn’t do very well with it.  But, you know, that was not appropriate.  That was a bad thing for our country.  But it was fine.  I mean, I understand the game.

They have a little bit of a majority.  So they say, “Let’s do something and let’s try and stir it up.”  But they wasted a year.  They wasted tremendous — we could’ve been doing things that would have been great for our country.  They could have been looking into China.  They should have been looking into China, as an example.  A lot of people are blaming the Democrats for wasting all that time, because it was during that period of time, as you know, that it was fomenting.

But I think we’ve had a great spirit of bipartisanship, in a certain way.  It’s not — I wouldn’t say we’re going to set records throughout the world, but things are happening that are very good.  The country is coming together.  And I’ll tell you what: The people are coming together.  The people are really coming together.  I think you’re going to find that our country is much more unified.

I do think that the press, the media, foments a lot of this — a lot of anger.  I really believe it.  It foments tremendous anger.  For instance, I’ll be asked a tremendously hostile question from somebody, and then I’ll answer to — in a hostile way, which is appropriate; otherwise, you look foolish.  Otherwise, it looks like just walk off the stage and bow your head.  I can’t do that.  You know, I just can’t do that.

But a lot of these questions that are asked from certain networks are so hostile, and there’s no reason for it.  There’s no reason for it.  We are in a war.  This is a World War Two, this is a World War One — where, by the way, the war essentially ended because of a plague.  That was one of the worst ever.  They lost almost 100 million people.  But we’re in a big war.

And I’ll say one thing about — because I think it’s important.  The last person — I did it early, but I was the last person that wanted to close down one of the great economic — you can’t call it an experiment, but everything, I guess, in life is an experiment.  So I say experiments.  But one of the great economic stories in history.  I’m the last person who wanted to do it.

But we did the right thing, because if we didn’t do it, you would have had a million people, a million and a half people, maybe 2 million people dead.  Now, we’re going toward 50, I’m hearing, or 60,000 people.  One is too many.  I always say it: One is too many.  But we’re going toward 50- or 60,000 people.  That’s at the lower — as you know, the low number was supposed to be 100,000 people.  We — we could end up at 50 to 60.  Okay?  It’s horrible.  If we didn’t do what we did, we would have had, I think, a million people, maybe 2 million people, maybe more than that.

And you look — there’s one country in particular that decided, “Let’s wing it.  Let’s just keep going.”  They are being inundated with death.  Now, if you take a look at some of the hospitals where — one of them I knew growing up in Queens, and I’m looking at the bodies laying in hallways, being brought into refrigerated trucks.  The trucks — these massive trucks, bodies going in.  Multiply that times 10.  It’s not sustainable.

And many of the people that have this theory, “Oh, let’s — you know, maybe we could have just gone right through it,” I was — I was somebody that would have loved to have done that, but it wouldn’t have been sustainable.  You can’t lose a million people.  That’s more than — that’s almost double what we lost in the Civil War.  I use that as a guide.  Civil War: 600,000 people died.  So it’s not sustainable.  But it could have been much more than a million people.

I mean, if you took a number and cut it half, and half, and in half again, you’d end up at 500,000 people — okay? — if you want to make a very conservative guesstimate.  Five hundred thousand people is not acceptable.  Is that a correct sort of an analogy?

So, I mean, I see it all the time by friends of mine, by people that I have great respect for: “Well, we could have done this.  We could have done…”  And remember this: When we say 50 and they compare 50 to the 35 of the flu — because it averaged 35, 36,000 over a 10-year period.  It’s a lot.  Who would think that?  But we’re not talking about with the flu.  That’s just — it just goes.  We’re not locking ourselves in our units.  We’re not locking ourselves in our apartments and not moving and not touching anybody, and just saying — you know, the world.  In this case, we are.  And we’re still going to lose between 50 and 60.

But if we just kept it going on a normal basis, which is really the only standard that you can compare it to with the flu, because that was a normal basis.  You get into an airplane, you travel to Florida, you go to Texas.  You go wherever you’re going.

But, in this case, if we didn’t do anything, the number wouldn’t be 50 to 60,000.  The number would be a million people dead.  It would be a million-five, a million-two.  Maybe 700,000.  It would have been a number in — like that.

Because — because — and it’s so important because I see so much: “Oh, well, you know, they can…”  You can’t compare it, because I’ll tell you what: The people of this country, what they’ve done — they’ve gone out of their way — what they — the way they’ve lived, it hasn’t — it’s not — it’s not great.  It’s terrible.  Maybe the first three days, and then all of a sudden — you see what’s going on; they want to get going.  And I get that fully.

But I just say this: If we would have done that, we would have lost anywhere from a million to more than 2 million people.  Now, with all of the death that we’ve seen — and 50- or 60,000 people, heading toward — right now it’s at 40.  But 50- or 60,000 people; probably over 50, from what I see.  But that’s with our guard up.  If we took our guard down and just said, “Okay, we’re just going to keep this open,” we would have lost millions of people.  Can you imagine?

Look how bad it looks now, when you look at the bodies.  When you look at Hart Island in New York, where they have the mass grave, and all of the things that you see.  Can you imagine if we had the guard down, if we didn’t do anything and we just said, “Let’s ride it out”?  It would not have been sustainable in any way.  It would have been an atrocity.

So we’ve done the right thing.  We’ve really done the right thing.  And the people that have worked so hard — and dangerously.  I’ll tell you — again, I say it, but I watch those doctors and nurses and medical people running into those hospitals, and they don’t even have their gear on.  Forget about gear, whether it’s great gear or not.  And we’re bringing in the best gear in the world.  But they’re running in with open everything, and they’re pushing.  I mean, the job — they’re like warriors, the job they’re doing.

But if we didn’t do the moves that we made, you would have had a million, a million and a half, 2 million people dead.  So multiply that times 50; you’re talking about — you would have had 10 to 20 to 25 times more people dead than all of the people that we’ve been watching.  That’s not acceptable.  The 50,000 is not acceptable.  It’s so horrible.  But can you imagine multiplying that out by 20 or more?  It’s not acceptable.

So it’s a very good question.  I appreciate it.  We’ll see you tomorrow.  We’ll see you tomorrow.

 

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JFC, he wakes up and does his best wicked stepmother routine (TV, TV on the wall the wall, who has the best ratings of the all) for over a fucking hour.  Sign me up for a job where i can sit in front of a TV and live tweet cable news shows for an hour at a time.

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So, he punts to the governors but takes all the credit--it's up to them to do what they need to do but the Feds would support them but not really, as seen by Maryland's governor.  The fucker did nothing--sent out supplies to a few governors that supported him, perhaps swing states and then asked others with populations in the millions, why they needed more than 30,000 masks. Bravo you dumb fuck.  Well played.  

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