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He just needs to stop with the numbers. He just keeps changing them as they grow. We're over 67k today and there's no way we only have 13k or even 23k more before this is all over. We could be over 100k in 2 or 3 weeks if we maintain the current rate of around 2 thousand a day.

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New David Roth piece.  It's brutal.

https://newrepublic.com/article/157546/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference

 

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In close up, on television, at a glance, with the volume down, Donald Trump can from time to time look like a president. That effect becomes less convincing the more you pay attention, though. Even under professional lighting, Trump reliably looks like a photographic negative of himself; on his worse and wetter days, he has the tone and texture of those lacquered roast ducks that hang from hooks in Chinatown restaurant windows. The passing presidentiality of the man dissipates utterly in longer shots, where Trump can be seen standing tipped oddly forward like a jowly ski jumper in midair, or mincing forward to bum-rush an expert’s inconvenient answer with an incoherent one of his own, or just making faces intended to signal that he is listening very strongly to what someone else is saying. (These slapdash performances of executive seriousness tend to have the effect, as the comedian Stewart Lee once said of James Corden, of making Trump look like “a dog listening to classical music.”) Seen from this long-shot vantage, the man at the podium is unmistakably Donald Trump—uncanny, unknowing, upset about various things that he can’t quite understand or express.

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Of course, it all gets much worse with the sound on; very few things about Trump have ever improved—have not instantly unraveled into a tangle of fragrant grifty waste—upon closer examination. Still, the combination of those familiar close shots, the years of inherited cultural reflex and unconscious media conditioning can make the illusion work for fleeting moments. Since Trump himself has both measured and lived his singularly episodic life in just those kinds of moments, it’s a deal he’s been happy to make. Trump knows what people see when they encounter an older white man standing behind a podium with a certain seal emblazoned upon it, which is the President of the United States of America. He imagined that he might be that man, and now he is. This is all a guess, insofar as anything about What Trump Really Thinks is invariably and inherently a guess, but if there was anything about the job that truly appealed to him when he set out to win the presidency as his own, this sure feels like it. As a lifelong acolyte and addict of television, he could imagine himself in those shots, in that space, doing … whatever a president does.

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It seems much less likely that Trump imagined the part where he brutally duffs the response to a pandemic that is now killing thousands of Americans every day and exposing the fragility of the gilded and precarious economy on which he staked his political future and personal legacy. That’s not the sort of thing Trump contemplates, and after years of his presidency happening more or less as someone as vain and lazy as him might dream it—spend all day watching TV and chasing feuds, watch the big numbers go up and up, bask in the adoration of devoted fans who roar with laughter at every garbled punchline—he has proven himself wholly unprepared for the realities of this very difficult job. He only really has so many moves, and because there’s no room within him to learn or care or adapt, he can only hit his mark and expect it all to work this time.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 2:30 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:

New David Roth piece.  It's brutal.

https://newrepublic.com/article/157546/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference

 

 

 

 

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Wrong!  Sad washed up David Roth is still mad he got fired from Van Halen.  I told Eddie that Sammy Hagar was the better singer.  Eddie said you're right Mr. Trump, sir.

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  On 5/2/2020 at 10:36 PM, Dbeasy said:

Trump has effectively transferred his failures onto all of the governors so that they are now in no-win situations. Damned if you open. Damned if you don’t.

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Trump has the Midas Shit touch. His work is done here.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 2:30 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:

New David Roth piece.  It's brutal.

https://newrepublic.com/article/157546/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference

 

 

 

 

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Godalmighty.  That's got a few good sentences in it, but overall is one of the most stilted pieces of writing I have consumed in quite some time.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 2:20 AM, Mo Horn said:

He just needs to stop with the numbers. He just keeps changing them as they grow. We're over 67k today and there's no way we only have 13k or even 23k more before this is all over. We could be over 100k in 2 or 3 weeks if we maintain the current rate of around 2 thousand a day.

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And with every state run by Republicans re-opening way too early, we’re not going to be maintaining that rate much longer.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 4:33 AM, TwiceHorn said:

Godalmighty.  That's got a few good sentences in it, but overall is one of the most stilted pieces of writing I have consumed in quite some time.

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Roth’s writing on Trump is intentionally like that. I think it’s more effective at communicating Trump’s mental state than anything else out there.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 1:28 PM, wildcat09 said:

And with every state run by Republicans re-opening way too early, we’re not going to be maintaining that rate much longer.

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Yeah, we’re going to have second waves in NY and other places just as the first waves are hitting further inland.  The lack of a unified national response strategy from leadership will likely be the most costly error. 

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  On 5/4/2020 at 1:37 PM, 4th&Five said:

 

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You know the more I hear this Donald guy, I think to myself, "Now there's just a straight shooter with upper management written all over him."  

Another flood of bad statistics pouring in this morning & he's talking about opening a cold case on a guy he claims he dumped. Who's asking him to go on record with "Nuts"?

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  On 5/4/2020 at 1:45 PM, Red Five said:

I would love to hear a detailed explanation on how he saved the second amendment. 

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Even the judges is a marginal accomplishment that any R president would have achieved with this Senate.  Some of the shitbags he put up were beyond the pale, though.  Even considering that a lot of judge nominees are political hacks, they were beyond the pale.

I'm surprised he doesn't bark more about immigration.  I'd say he's been most impactful there, for better or worse (worse of course, but I kind of think there's some value in enforcing what immigration laws are on the books in order to provoke change, even if that's not what he intended).

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  On 5/4/2020 at 1:47 PM, Jive Turkey said:

 

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  On 5/4/2020 at 1:57 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

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"Mexico is sadly experiencing very big coronavirus problems..."

 

I don't know much about what's going on in San Diego or southern California, but Mexico has had a little over 23,000 cases and 2,000 deaths.  From what's been reported, they currently have it better than us in regards to COVID in just about every statistical way.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 1:32 PM, wildcat09 said:

Roth’s writing on Trump is intentionally like that. I think it’s more effective at communicating Trump’s mental state than anything else out there.

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Watching the cuts from his Lincoln Memorial Townhall Meeting, I think Roth nails his thesis that Trump is carried by maintaining a serious demeanor while live streaming drivel from his curiously puckered mouth. He's a miracle of not looking how you sound.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 6:50 PM, Michael Knight said:

UNITY!

 

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i'm not saying anybody is right or wrong here, but just for some perspective, can we discuss, compare, and rank the great hoaxes of american history?

here's where my research is starting.  fuck it, it's tuesday, i ain't got shit to do.

https://www.history.com/tag/hoaxes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hoaxes

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/49674/14-greatest-hoaxes-all-time

how hard would it be to pick one, a really stupid one, like the unicorns, bipedal beavers, and other moon monsters, and start a campaign to get it named the best hoax in american history, thus discrediting the president's claims.

can we pay russian bots 3 cents each to spam, "but what about the bipedal beaver hoax?!?" about 50,000x every time the president brings up a hoax?

also yes, i realize it's monday.  now.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 7:44 PM, henrygandorf said:

i'm not saying anybody is right or wrong here, but just for some perspective, can we discuss, compare, and rank the great hoaxes of american history?

also yes, i realize it's monday.  now.

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  On 5/4/2020 at 7:47 PM, 4th&Five said:

it's not tuesday.

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If we could get Mondays canceled, that would be an interesting hoax. To be fair, Manic Tuesday doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

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  On 5/3/2020 at 9:58 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

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Trumpship:  If whatever happens is good, then I'm responsible.  If it's bad, then I'm not responsible.   This is always liquid and can be implemented retroactively.

  On 5/3/2020 at 10:42 PM, TwiceHorn said:

GWB proves that he is 1000x the human being, leader, and even speaker that Trump is.

 

And Trump doubles down on the proposition.

 

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bye*

This is Trump in a nutshell.  Equating his reputation to the pain, suffering and loss of 100s of thousands of people.  

 

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  On 5/4/2020 at 9:53 PM, Pancho said:

 

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This was good.

 

My spouse and I were reminiscing a little today about when our children were small. I've heard Trump compared to a toddler before, and while many toddlers are bright, eager learners, and empathetic, they can also be little stinkers to parent some days. Trump has some toddler logic and behavior that he never really outgrew. It's exasperating to watch adults attempt to appeal to his sense of what is right or wrong, to reason with him. Except his sense of what is right or wrong does not apply to legality (he's the President which is like a king to a toddler) and he has no compassion so the only wrongs are ones done to him. There is no reasoning, only pleading or placating.

I am flabbergasted at this id-elect creation that is so admired by Republicans that they would herald his every word, chortle at his tantrums, and smile or bluster at his lies. The oddity of being outraged at being told what to do to protect one's health and that of one's fellow citizens by concerned adults and yet docilely lapping up every tale on Fox Story Time is the strangest reality I believe I have witnessed.

 

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  On 5/5/2020 at 3:49 AM, plimon said:

 

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Lincoln’s bodyguard, John Frederick Parker, left his post during intermission to get drunk at the saloon next door and never went back to Ford’s Theatre.

Parker was charged with neglect of duty, but the charges were dismissed and Parker was still allowed to work security detail at the White House.

He was Mary Todd Lincoln’s bodyguard until she moved out of the White House.

That shit would definitely not fly today if it happened to Trump, and the guy who left to get drunk was still left in charge of taking care of Melania. 

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  On 5/5/2020 at 4:09 AM, MrBig said:
Lincoln’s bodyguard, John Frederick Parker, left his post during intermission to get drunk at the saloon next door and never went back to Ford’s Theatre.
Parker was charged with neglect of duty, but the charges were dismissed and Parker was still allowed to work security detail at the White House.
He was Mary Todd Lincoln’s bodyguard until she moved out of the White House.
That shit would definitely not fly today if it happened to Trump, and the guy who left to get drunk was still left in charge of taking care of Melania. 
Sounds like we've got our screen play for "The Body Guard 2, American Redemption"
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  On 5/5/2020 at 4:09 AM, MrBig said:

Lincoln’s bodyguard, John Frederick Parker, left his post during intermission to get drunk at the saloon next door and never went back to Ford’s Theatre.

Parker was charged with neglect of duty, but the charges were dismissed and Parker was still allowed to work security detail at the White House.

He was Mary Todd Lincoln’s bodyguard until she moved out of the White House.

That shit would definitely not fly today if it happened to Trump, and the guy who left to get drunk was still left in charge of taking care of Melania. 

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the guard would leave to go plug melania is my guess 

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  On 5/5/2020 at 4:09 AM, MrBig said:

That shit would definitely not fly today if it happened to Trump, and the guy who left to get drunk was still left in charge of taking care of Melania. 

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Wonder how many men there are who are in charge of "taking care of Melania".

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