Donald Trump 2020

[burntorangebongos 10710]

I wonder where we would be now if we had listened to that flat tax guy who wanted to set it at 14%? I think that was the percentage. It was an odd amount but 14% is what I am remembering. That was about 25 years ago or more. I think we'd be way better off but we can't ever do anything easy or what is best because the dicks in power are always going to try to fuck us over. 

[Born to Run 6569]

I can't fathom how a single member of the military or their families pulls the lever for dotard in November.  He's actively trying to kill them.

A former Army flight medic I'm friends with post socialism fear porn 24/7. And propaganda and lies. I was pointing this out for awhile and he would snap to and apologize. It's ramped up ; I had to unfollow him. Propaganda and manipulation works. Anyone taking a victory lap on Dotard needs to wake up. He's still got 40% of the country and they are going to vote. Same shit worked for the Nazis.

Biden's current message is the right path. Hammer issues that the majority of Americans support. Ease up on extreme cancel culture and super progressive measures that can be distorted.

Scary GOP ad/ Joe Biden wants to fix the economy and save Medicare. Joe Biden reads. Joe Biden listens to the experts. Joe Biden has a platform that the vast majority of Americans agree with. / Scary GOP ad

[RomaVicta 29907]

37 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This.  While the bottom line is deaths, without massive testing, you have no idea how many people really died from it.  Which I guess is the dotard's ultimate goal.

They've apparently won the battle of focusing only on deaths. The suffering and costs of ongoing problems for most people hospitalized with Covid will be devastating over time. I will be tiresomely pointing this out periodically.

The government-encouraged delusion that one either dies from the disease or barely notices it, I'm sure, is why so many people risk not wearing masks and dismiss the risks altogether.

This is another failure of the news media as well. Cases and death rate are the story, from this the lazy, template-oriented TV News meat puppets will not stray. Longer term effects haven't been quantified and handed to them, so they can't supply the graphics to fuel their endless opinion shows.

There are exceptions, of course. Rachel Maddow emerges as a giant of actual journalism. As does John Oliver who doesn't consider himself a journalist. I haven't watched 60 Minutes in decades other than to tune in and see how Lesley Stahl is holding up so maybe they should be included, too. Man, I'd love to see Mike Wallace interview a Trump.

Edited July 14, 2020 by RomaVicta

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

18 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Somebody on another thread found out at the coronavirus.gov site, the main website for government data and resources and guidelines...was registered and launched on 8 January.  Just 9 days after China revealed the Covid-19 virus strain.  Curious that his administration deployed that resource over a hoax that was already about to disappear.  Somebody sure as shit knew something was about to go horribly wrong in this country with this virus, and had that kind of foresight.  But like the Russian Bounty Hunters, it did not rise to the level of the President taking note of it on his PDB.  But what does rise to the level of the President's daily briefing interest are the words of the great Chuck Woolery.  

I don't know the ins and outs of domain stuff, but I remember that post and the reply. I went to the site that was listed, and it was not a govt site I don't think. You may wish to locate that post and examine it more carefully to ensure that it is actually a .gov site because the reply to you (by texasg8tr?) showed a .org site. I don't know how all that differs, but if it does matter, then it might be of no consequence as to the government.

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

At some point, if this country survives, we're either going to have to eliminate deductions and loopholes or increase the tax rate substantially.

I, like many, probably including yourself before moving, am cornholed by the elimination of the property/state tax deduction.

It pisses me off, but it needed to happen.

Heaven forbid Amazon, Google or the others carry some of the load. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

NSIAP but...

HEY! HUMAN CAPITAL STOCK!! GET OFF THE DOLE AND GO TO WORK YOU LOAFERS!! MY GREAT ECONOMY WON'T FIX ITSELF.

BE HAPPY THERE IS LAW AND ORDER OR ELSE! RATINGS!!

 

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

Lou Saban...

The president, never shy about his admiration for the football dynasty Nick Saban has built at the University of Alabama, mentioned Tuberville’s success against the Crimson Tide as Auburn’s head coach, a run that helped bring Saban to Alabama to reverse the trend. But Trump got Saban’s first name wrong more than once on tonight’s call.

“Really successful coach,” Trump said, speaking of Tuberville. “Beat Alabama, like six in a row, but we won’t even mention that. As he said … because of that, maybe we got ‘em Lou Saban. … And he’s great, Lou Saban, what a great job he’s done.”

http:// https://apple.news/ArXZeAf1HO_6P4JQ0jc0sAA

[TwiceHorn 31471]

4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

NSIAP but...

HEY! HUMAN CAPITAL STOCK!! GET OFF THE DOLE AND GO TO WORK YOU LOAFERS!! MY GREAT ECONOMY WON'T FIX ITSELF.

BE HAPPY THERE IS LAW AND ORDER OR ELSE! RATINGS!!

 

You know how I know none of the people that came up with this have ever worked for a living?

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Lou Saban, Nick Holtz, whatever it takes.

Wait until he mixes up Ed Orgeron and James Obergefell.

[TwiceHorn 31471]

6 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

Lou Saban...
 

 

http:// https://apple.news/ArXZeAf1HO_6P4JQ0jc0sAA

 

Another data point making it staggering that Cletii seem to find that he's like them.  He's an east coast elite, except he's stupid.

[The Dog 44051]

12 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

NSIAP but...

HEY! HUMAN CAPITAL STOCK!! GET OFF THE DOLE AND GO TO WORK YOU LOAFERS!! MY GREAT ECONOMY WON'T FIX ITSELF.

BE HAPPY THERE IS LAW AND ORDER OR ELSE! RATINGS!!

 

That's as stupid and tone deaf as Hillary talking about putting coal miners out of work. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

And off to SEC Rant I go....

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

I wish someone would hack Lou Saban’s tweety account and endorse Jones and Biden. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

At some point, if this country survives, we're either going to have to eliminate deductions and loopholes or increase the tax rate substantially.

I, like many, probably including yourself before moving, am cornholed by the elimination of the property/state tax deduction.

It pisses me off, but it needed to happen.

Disagree.  We have created a system where state and local governments are responsible for pretty much everything.  As long as that is true, they should receive the bulk of our tax money.  I'm not sure why we should throw our money into a black hole when services provided by our states and cities are currently running in the red.  SALT deductions at least allowed us to pay state and local "first."

I do know that in functioning nations, national governments are able to provide and distribute services for the benefit of all their citizens.  Since we are a failed state though, we are better off funding the local warlords than throwing our money away.

56 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

If you eliminate the deductions, then get rid of the fucking progressive taxes.  Also, get the rates lower.  I would be ok with a flat tax of 10 or 15% provided the first 40-50k for each individual was tax free (that is honestly what it costs to live) on a pure income tax.  You get no other deductions.  You eliminate all sorts of costs with enforcement.  

I'm thinking of a complete overhaul.  FICA is a good setup.  Its a specific tax to provide 2 specific services.  All FIT should follow the same setup.  Have a military tax and an administrative tax.  When the federal government needs more, they can pass a new specific tax, or they can go to state governments directly for funding.

I'm a tax and spend liberal.  I would love for us to have first world level social services and infrastructure.  But it just doesn't happen.  We get jackshit for increased taxes.

[Rougarou 594]

What is the tax system called where everyone pays the same thing? Flat tax? That what I want and would vote for.  #Equality

Edited July 14, 2020 by Rougarou

[UncleSonny 6572]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

Like, just get a bullshit job working for your dad or something!

 

“Let them eat cake!”

[Biff Tannen 45685]

2 minutes ago, Rougarou said:

What is the tax system called where everyone pays the same thing? Flat tax? That what I want and would vote for.  #Equality

Except for billionaires because no human being needs that much money.  But let's take it to the tax thread.

[Ted Lange 16085]

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

Assume we missed 25% of the deaths caused by Coronavirus.  So that puts the net total at what?---175k, 200k?  SOmething like that? 

Is that really his strategy?  It won't sit with Americans to lose 185,000 fellow citizens due to our inept handling of it, but we can live with 140,000 dead and promises of "tremendous testing?"  What the fuck?  

It’s mostly old people, TRUMP SLAYS THE SOCIAL SECURITY CRISIS!1!!!!
-Swam 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Ted Lange

[Underdog 28634]

Lou Saban is infamous for his “they’re killing me, Whitey.  They’re killing me!” Rant on the sideline once.  That’s probably why tRump brought him up. 

[Born to Run 6569]

What is the tax system called where everyone pays the same thing? Flat tax? That what I want and would vote for.  #Equality

Fuck that. Need to return to the 50s when they rich paid a fair share instead of stealing more. You have to give the prol a bone and then or they revolt.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

20 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

 

I'm a tax and spend liberal.  I would love for us to have first world level social services and infrastructure.  But it just doesn't happen.  We get jackshit for increased taxes.

We get something far more important for our well-being than first world social services and infrastructure.... 

[TwiceHorn 31471]

25 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Disagree.  We have created a system where state and local governments are responsible for pretty much everything.  As long as that is true, they should receive the bulk of our tax money.  I'm not sure why we should throw our money into a black hole when services provided by our states and cities are currently running in the red.  SALT deductions at least allowed us to pay state and local "first."

I do know that in functioning nations, national governments are able to provide and distribute services for the benefit of all their citizens.  Since we are a failed state though, we are better off funding the local warlords than throwing our money away.

I'm thinking of a complete overhaul.  FICA is a good setup.  Its a specific tax to provide 2 specific services.  All FIT should follow the same setup.  Have a military tax and an administrative tax.  When the federal government needs more, they can pass a new specific tax, or they can go to state governments directly for funding.

I'm a tax and spend liberal.  I would love for us to have first world level social services and infrastructure.  But it just doesn't happen.  We get jackshit for increased taxes.

Well, that's a different issue.

I do rather like your idea of the states being the first and primary level of taxation, though.

[Patrick Bateman 3914]

2 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

Like, just get a bullshit job working for your dad or something!

 

This is fantastic.  I'm going to be looking for something new!  Maybe race car driver?   That can't be hard to learn.  Lean into it.  Maybe stunt man?  Brain surgeon?  That's new.... I've always wondered what the ole cabeza looks like.  Ground beef?  Maybe I'll run for office..... you obviously don't need experience or competence.  I can't fail.

 

[Biff Tannen 45685]

3 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

This is fantastic.  I'm going to be looking for something new!  Maybe race car driver?   That can't be hard to learn.  Lean into it.  Maybe stunt man?  Brain surgeon?  That's new.... I've always wondered what the ole cabeza looks like.  Ground beef?  Maybe I'll run for office..... you obviously don't need experience or competence.  I can't fail.

 

[Dbeasy 15051]

 

This easily could have been exactly what I would have said on a video. Exactly.

 

Edit: except I didn’t vote for him. Fortunately.

[Degenerate Gardner 4085]

41 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Except for billionaires because no human being needs that much money.  But let's take it to the tax thread.

Not until we flesh out California billionaires' Mexican food preferences.

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Lobo said:

^
I know Ivanka thinks in the fabulous Clooney world, she's the Anna Kendrick character in "Up in the Air" but she's really the Tilda Swinton character in "Michael Clayton."  

Ivanka is way too stupid to be that character. 

[babysdaddy 2724]

Didn't know where else to put this.  Rick turns orange then red.

[henrygandorf 29191]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Man, I'd love to see Mike Wallace interview a Trump.

 

[Eskimohorn 5635]

Flat tax talk not going away. It works great in countries like [checks notes] Russia, Estonia, and Mongolia.

[Saint Tacky 1614]

3 hours ago, Lobo said:

^
I know Ivanka thinks in the fabulous Clooney world, she's the Anna Kendrick character in "Up in the Air" but she's really the Tilda Swinton character in "Michael Clayton."  

spectacular 

[Brisketexan 105139]

6 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Flat tax talk not going away. It works great in countries like [checks notes] Russia, Estonia, and Mongolia.

Ummm.....you do realize that holding us up in comparison to countries like that isn't nearly as favorable as it once used to be, right?  Shit, with 13 million people, Estonia has a total of 69 dead from Covid, as just one example.  

We are Texas football under Mackovic -- we talk about our glory days, while we lose actual games to fucking RICE.

[Jive Turkey 12598]

This ought to be another shitshow. 

 

[Brisketexan 105139]

1 minute ago, Jive Turkey said:

This ought to be another shitshow. 

 

Could he just choke to death on a Big Mac already?  We can't handle any more of this shit.  Seriously, we're already in a world of shit, and he just keeps taking megadumps on top of it.  

This has literally become a life-and-death matter, and he keeps pushing down the scale on the "death" side of things.

[Jive Turkey 12598]

He must have gotten huge ratings and rave reviews from yesterday’s performance.

Not sure what the impetus is for this PC. He’s just so impulsive that it’s hard to know what made him all of a sudden want to speak. Could be a tweet he read or something he saw on Fox News or something one of his sycophants told him. Maybe he took a glorious deuce this morning and wants to share. Guess we’ll find out. But not at 5 EDT. He’s never on time. 

[Bookman 4639]

3 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I would be ok with a flat tax of 10 or 15% provided the first 40-50k for each individual was tax free (that is honestly what it costs to live) on a pure income tax.  You get no other deductions.

If you get rid of deductions a wage earner who has $100K in wages and a business owner who has $100K in revenue and $50K in expenses would pay the same tax.

[Hiphopopotamos 20873]

2 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

He must have gotten huge ratings and rave reviews from yesterday’s performance.

Not sure what the impetus is for this PC. He’s just so impulsive that it’s hard to know what made him all of a sudden want to speak. Could be a tweet he read or something he saw on Fox News or something one of his sycophants told him. Maybe he took a glorious deuce this morning and wants to share. Guess we’ll find out. But not at 5 EDT. He’s never on time. 

He believes the way he'll win this is to get in front of the cameras everyday - regardless of what he's there to talk about.  He'll lie about Obama/Biden screwing up COVID tests.  He'll lie about pre-existing conditions.  He'll lie about DACA.

[F250 28775]

10 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

This ought to be another shitshow. 

 

If he spontaneously combusts on TV that would be fantastic.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Could he just choke to death on a Big Mac already?  We can't handle any more of this shit.  Seriously, we're already in a world of shit, and he just keeps taking megadumps on top of it.  

This has literally become a life-and-death matter, and he keeps pushing down the scale on the "death" side of things.

I was just thinking how a mild mannered former colonel in the US Army, holder of a Legion of Merit could forever go down in history as the wrinkled but winsome martyr at the Twilight Of A Thousand Scarves in which an intrepid physician sheds the vapid adulation act and pulls a Princess Leia. In the ensuing pandemonium,  Jabba the Hutt does a face plant onto the podium with his protruding tongue leaving a trail of drool over the binder containing Jared and Ivanka's hopes and dreams.

[UpperWestside 6164]

18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Could he just choke to death on a Big Mac already?  We can't handle any more of this shit.  Seriously, we're already in a world of shit, and he just keeps taking megadumps on top of it.  

This has literally become a life-and-death matter, and he keeps pushing down the scale on the "death" side of things.

I can’t listen to Dotard talk, at all. The day that idiot dies needs to be declared a national holiday going forward. If I still drank I would probably die of alcohol poisoning the day it happens.

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

12 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I was just thinking how a mild mannered former colonel in the US Army, holder of a Legion of Merit could forever go down in history as the wrinkled but winsome martyr at the Twilight Of A Thousand Scarves in which an intrepid physician sheds the vapid adulation act and pulls a Princess Leia. In the ensuing pandemonium,  Jabba the Hutt does a face plant onto the podium with his protruding tongue leaving a trail of drool over the binder containing Jared and Ivanka's hopes and dreams.

The fuck are you talking about?

[UpperWestside 6164]

12 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

He believes the way he'll win this is to get in front of the cameras everyday - regardless of what he's there to talk about.  He'll lie about Obama/Biden screwing up COVID tests.  He'll lie about pre-existing conditions.  He'll lie about DACA.

If his mouth is moving he’s lying.

[RomaVicta 29907]

3 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

Lou Saban...
 

 

http:// https://apple.news/ArXZeAf1HO_6P4JQ0jc0sAA

 

I'm old enough that I thought it was Lou Saban until I did the math 18 years ago. He was an NFL coach. Still, if you're in the South, you should get the Alabama champion coach's name right.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

12 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The fuck are you talking about?

Dr. Birx in the Rose Garden with a scarf. Brisket was talking about choking and the President and it brought to mind the scene from Return of the Jedi.

[Guest Lobo]

19 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Dr. Birx in the Rose Garden with a scarf. Brisket was talking about choking and the President and it brought to mind the scene from Return of the Jedi.

I read this in Tim Curry's voice, "It was Dr. Birx in the Press Room...with the Scarf!"  

I laughed, then I got said again.  Only good news is Trump dies in September of this year. 

[Biff Tannen 45685]

2 hours ago, babysdaddy said:

Didn't know where else to put this.  Rick turns orange then red.

So I guess this is a Colbert thing, who I really like, but honestly, this isn't the fucking time.  I am usually the last one to defend Rs (or former Rs), but The Lincoln Project is kicking ass and taking names right now.  Enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that.  We need them in this fight.  If Biden wins in November, sure, have at them.  Let's focus on step one in this shitshow, getting rid of dotard.

This feels like some Bernie-bro shit.  Also, it's just kind of annoying with the cartoons and their equally cartoonish voices.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So I guess this is a Colbert thing, who I really like, but honestly, this isn't the fucking time.  I am usually the last one to defend Rs (or former Rs), but The Lincoln Project is kicking ass and taking names right now.  Enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that.  We need them in this fight.  If Biden wins in November, sure, have at them.  Let's focus on step one in this shitshow, getting rid of dotard.

This feels like some Bernie-bro shit.  Also, it's just kind of annoying with the cartoons and their equally cartoonish voices.

Agreed. Even those bitchy GOP staffers in that article the other day reacted the most to the Lincoln Project. They seemed indifferent to Donald, Biden, the fate and trajectory of the country, etc etc, but they spit straight venom at Lincoln Project. They will never be allowed back no matter who wins!!1! Lulz get fucked GOP 

[Biff Tannen 45685]

Shocker, dotard backing down on sending home international students.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Shocker, dotard backing down on sending home international students.

just goes to show how much more swamp he needs to drain, amirite?

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

He must have gotten huge ratings and rave reviews from yesterday’s performance.
Not sure what the impetus is for this PC. He’s just so impulsive that it’s hard to know what made him all of a sudden want to speak. Could be a tweet he read or something he saw on Fox News or something one of his sycophants told him. Maybe he took a glorious deuce this morning and wants to share. Guess we’ll find out. But not at 5 EDT. He’s never on time. 

That book is coming out tomorrow. He is going to say something absurd to dominate the news cycle.