Donald Trump 2020

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

LOLZ

The 14 that voted against the defense budget bill:

Edited July 23, 2020 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Bookman 4639]

49 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fine in 1945.... other than if you look at that whole Fat Man/Little Boy thing that happened

This was a whole thread on Hornfans back in the day.

[Underdog 28614]

1 hour ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Wait...did he just say he's throwing out the first pitch at Yankee stadium on Aug 15th?

Ohh....empty stadium. Got it.

Will he, or will he pay someone to throw it for him? 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6559]

2 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Will he, or will he say he is going to pay someone to throw it for him and then not pay them? 

Added some words in BOLD to that statement to make it correct.

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

I was just about to look that up...TY.

 

 

Saying a relief pitcher is the greatest pitcher of all time is like saying a drummer is the greatest musician of all time.

[TornACL 7698]

Lol did he get his pages mixed up?

[Queen Bitch 1692]

25 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

This picture should be the only response anytime he or his base mentions athletes “disrespecting” the flag.

[Underdog 28614]

4 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

legit lulz at this shit.  what a moron.

 

Flyin' east on a plane
Drinkin' all that free champagne
I guess I saw this comin' down the line
And I know it should be fun
But I think I should've packed my gun
Got that old suburban showdown in my mind

[TheStoicPaisano 9922]

“All-district”

 

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Record corn day!

 

 

 

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

13 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

“All-district”

 

 

I'm 52, and I haven't put on a ball glove in just around 30 years.  Yet I have zero doubt that if I put one on and someone tossed me a baseball or softball, I could still snag it without looking like it was the first time ever a ball was thrown my way.

 

[Mole 4330]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Saying a relief pitcher is the greatest pitcher of all time is like saying a drummer is the greatest musician of all time.

Counterpoint...

 

[4th&Five 41526]

He’s on Hannity tonight. I’m guessing we’re not hearing about his “new tone” in the morning. 

[henrygandorf 29189]

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

So, invite in a pair of filmmakers to document stuff.  Then, realizing what they have filmed, threaten them legally and ask them to not release the documentary until after the election.

The best people, indeed.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/trump-immigration-nation-netflix.html

 

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In early 2017, as Immigration and Customs Enforcement prepared to carry out the hard-line agenda on which President Trump had campaigned, agency leaders jumped at the chance to let two filmmakers give a behind-the-scenes look at the process.

But as the documentary neared completion in recent months, the administration fought mightily to keep it from being released until after the 2020 election. After granting rare access to parts of the country’s powerful immigration enforcement machinery that are usually invisible to the public, administration officials threatened legal action and sought to block parts of it from seeing the light of day.

 

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Some of the contentious scenes include ICE officers lying to immigrants to gain access to their homes and mocking them after taking them into custody. One shows an officer illegally picking the lock to an apartment building during a raid.

At town hall meetings captured on camera, agency spokesmen reassured the public that the organization’s focus was on arresting and deporting immigrants who had committed serious crimes. But the filmmakers observed numerous occasions in which officers expressed satisfaction after being told by supervisors to arrest as many people as possible, even those without criminal records.

 

Spoiler

“Start taking collaterals, man,” a supervisor in New York said over a speakerphone to an officer who was making street arrests as the filmmakers listened in. “I don’t care what you do, but bring at least two people,” he said.

The filmmakers, Christina Clusiau and Shaul Schwarz, who are a couple, turned drafts of their six-part project called “Immigration Nation” over to ICE leadership in keeping with a contract they had signed with the agency. What they encountered next resembled what happened to Mary L. Trump, the president’s niece, who was eventually sued in an unsuccessful attempt to stop her from publishing a memoir that revealed embarrassing details about the president and his associates.

Suddenly, Ms. Clusiau and Mr. Schwarz say, the official who oversaw the agency’s television and film department, with whom they had worked closely over nearly three years of filming, became combative.

The filmmakers discussed their conversations on the condition that the officials they dealt with not be named out of fear that it would escalate their conflict with the agency.

In heated phone calls and emails, they said, the official pushed to delay publication of the series, currently set to air on Netflix next month. He warned that the federal government would use its “full weight” to veto scenes it found objectionable. Several times, the filmmakers said, the official pointed out that it was their “little production company,” not the film’s $125 billion distributor, that would face consequences.

The filmmakers said they were told that the administration’s anger over the project came from “all the way to the top.”

Unnerved, the filmmakers said they began using an encrypted messaging service to communicate with their production team. They installed security cameras in their office and moved hard drives with raw film footage to a separate location, afraid of ICE’s increasingly aggressive tactics.

“Experiencing them is painful and scary and intimidating and at the same time angering and makes you want to fight to do the story,” Mr. Schwarz said.

Jenny L. Burke, the press secretary for ICE, said the agency “wholeheartedly disputes the allegations brought forward by filmmakers of this production.”

She said the agency pushed back against the film only within the confines of the agreement Mr. Schwarz had signed, and that the couple, not the agency, caused delays in the review process. She added that in the many collaborations the agency had embarked on with other media outlets, ICE officials had never been accused of bullying.

“The men and women of ICE perform outstanding work daily that often goes unnoticed or is misrepresented to the point of falsehood,” Ms. Burke said in a statement. “ICE is firmly committed to carrying out the agency’s sworn duty to enforce federal law as passed by Congress professionally, consistently and in full compliance with federal law and agency policies.”

The connections that eventually opened the door for the documentary project were made in 2011, when Mr. Schwarz, an Israeli journalist who first came to the United States as a foreign correspondent and later became a naturalized citizen, embedded with a local ICE field office in Arizona for a project about drug cartels. It never published, but Mr. Schwarz became friendly with the public information officer who coordinated the embed.

Over the next several years, the officer rose through the agency until he was promoted to oversee the press office at Washington headquarters. A few times, while Barack Obama was still president, Mr. Schwarz raised the idea of doing a story about the agency’s immigration work, but he got nowhere.

Soon after Mr. Trump took office in 2017, Mr. Schwarz and Ms. Clusiau, a former photo editor for Time magazine who grew up in Minnesota, traveled to Washington and asked the official to lunch, pitching the idea of a documentary series examining how the agency would evolve as Mr. Trump carried out his promise to crack down on immigration. The lunch led to a meeting where the filmmakers convinced high-ranking officials to sign off on the project.

The filmmakers’ lawyer, Victoria S. Cook, negotiated a contract with strong protections for their journalistic independence. It allowed for ICE to review drafts of the series before it was published. But the agency was allowed to request changes only based on factual inaccuracies, violations of privacy rights or the inclusion of law enforcement tactics that could either hinder officers’ abilities to do their jobs or put them in danger. Matthew T. Albence, the current acting director of ICE, signed on behalf of the government.

Over the next two and a half years, the couple filmed a sweeping look at the federal immigration enforcement system, discovering many inherent contradictions.

They followed Border Patrol tactical agents who took pride in rescuing migrants from deadly dehydration even as the agents acknowledged that their tactics were pushing the migrants further into harm’s way. They showed how the government had at times evaluated the success of its border policies based not only on the number of migrants apprehended, but on the number who died while crossing.

They followed refugees who fled their home countries because their lives were in danger, who had been vetted over several years before their number was called for resettlement in the United States. The filmmakers showed that after Mr. Trump was elected, many of those refugees with preliminarily approved cases were placed instead in indefinite administrative limbo to satisfy promises the president had made to cut refugee resettlement numbers.

They also tracked a grandmother who said she felt pressured during 17 months of detention to give up her asylum claim, which was based on death threats she had received in her home country after refusing to turn over her 12-year-old granddaughter to MS-13 gang members for a forced marriage.

The filmmakers watched ICE officers on the front lines struggle with the impact of their work on immigrants and their families and cling to the notion that they were simply doing the job for which they were hired.

“I started seeing a lot of officers that I don’t think really believe in it,” Mr. Schwarz said. “But I think you hang on to this kind of stuff because it’s not fun to actually look in the mirror and think about the complexity of what you are a part of.”

Part of what makes the film unique is that the creators were allowed not only to enter certain detention facilities, but to interview people inside and then follow their cases through the labyrinthine immigration system. Typically, during the rare instances when journalists are allowed into government detention centers, they are barred from speaking to any detainees or staff members.

“There was a long time in production where I was feeling that you keep on perpetuating the narrative of people being in the shadows when you’re unable to show them,” Ms. Clusiau said. “I think that was a big part of wanting to get to the heart of these stories and really show people who they are.”

In the end, ICE’s leadership expressed frustration that the documentary, which was supposed to be about ICE officers, included the stories of so many immigrants.

The film showed several parents who were separated from their children at the border, including one father whose 3-year-old son had been pulled away in tears while clinging to his father’s leg.

One scene the agency sought to delete showed officers entering a home seeking a certain immigrant; they ended up arresting that immigrant and two roommates, some of whom had been asleep in bunk beds.

ICE officials told them that the scene revealed sensitive law enforcement tactics by showing a machine used for fingerprinting. The filmmakers pointed out that the same machine was featured on the agency’s website. Then, officials said the scene had to be deleted because some of the people shown in it had not signed privacy waivers. But those shown had each signed two different release forms, the filmmakers said, and the agency backed off.

ICE threatened to subpoena their raw footage of the scene in which an ICE agent picks the lock of an apartment building to reach the home of an immigrant who is being targeted for deportation, claiming there would almost certainly be an internal investigation into the incident, and that including the scene would cause the officer to get fired.

In the end, the conflicts were resolved by lawyers on both sides. Ms. Cook, the filmmakers’ legal representative, said her negotiations with government lawyers were much more amicable than those her clients faced when dealing with ICE.

“It became clear that they were trying to intimidate Shaul and Christina into telling what they thought would be a more favorable story,” she said. “This was not surprising since it was in keeping with the way we have seen the government attempt to silence others.”

The filmmakers said they came away with some empathy for the ICE officers, but became convinced that the entire system was harmful to immigrants and their families.

The problem, they said, was summarized in the first episode by Becca Heller, the director of the International Refugee Assistance Project.

“Is a government agency evil? No. Is every single person inside ICE evil? No,” Ms. Heller told the filmmakers. “The brilliance of the system is that their job has been siphoned off in such a way that maybe what they see day to day seems justified, but when you add it up, all of the people just doing their job, it becomes this crazy terrorizing system.”

 

[HenryJames 66045]

 

[HenryJames 66045]

 

[Mo Horn 8832]

2 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

But did they kneel during the anthem? Good symbolism if they did it before or after, but during is the actual protest. 

[pyrohornIII 4814]

On 7/22/2020 at 12:48 AM, F250 said:

Frank Erwin Center in 1994? I was at that concert but was kicked out for disorderly conduct by the time Nine Inch Nails came out.

I got all you slackers beat.  I took both my grandmothers to see Lawrence Welk in the FEC, 1976.  Uh one anda two.

[SubliminalHorn 6786]

3 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

But did they kneel during the anthem? Good symbolism if they did it before or after, but during is the actual protest. 

Before

[SaucyJack 3488]

So, did some research on my President's strategery. 

Googled:  suburban housewives blacks coming

I don't think he's gonna like those pole numbers.

[Brisketexan 105098]

 

Hey y’all....remember how I said it only gets worse? It only gets worse. Systematic lies, fraud on the court, all this shit. There is no fucking rule of law when it comes to this criminal regime.
Everyone associated with it is a member of a criminal enterprise.
The people at Homeland Security who submitted false statements should face criminal penalty - and I mean prison. They lied on a government record in order to harm other people. It’s a clear crime. But I’d like to get a couple to flip...to tell us where the order came from.
Fucking criminal gang. We need to build 10 new prisons for them all.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Hey y’all....remember how I said it only gets worse? It only gets worse. Systematic lies, fraud on the court, all this shit. There is no fucking rule of law when it comes to this criminal regime.
Everyone associated with it is a member of a criminal enterprise.
The people at Homeland Security who submitted false statements should face criminal penalty - and I mean prison. They lied on a government record in order to harm other people. It’s a clear crime. But I’d like to get a couple to flip...to tell us where the order came from.
Fucking criminal gang. We need to build 10 new prisons for them all.

Prisons? Fuck that.

[HenryJames 66045]

6 minutes ago, SaucyJack said:

So, did some research on my President's strategery. 

Googled:  suburban housewives blacks coming

I don't think he's gonna like those pole numbers.

[Radical Larry 28587]

 

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

 

[shakahorn 1645]

27 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Before

As best as I can tell, none of the players in the Yankees/Nats game kneeled during the anthem.  Dodgers/Giants, at least a couple Giants, I think Kapler and Sandoval, and at least one Dodger, Betts, kneeled.  Betts two teammates, Muncy and Bellinger came over and each put a hand on his shoulder about midway through.

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

The best memory.

 

 

 

[Radical Larry 28587]

 

[tx 3 putt 76912]

the putin poster lolololololololololololololololol

[burntorangebongos 10710]

Kaiser Soze homage with the coffee cup drop. This is her best one yet,imo.

[Planet Houston 4930]

On 7/17/2020 at 9:16 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

If we have history books, it’s indescribable how vile these people in power will be remembered.  Leading the population to certain death by ignoring the virus and attempting to force kids back into school. Rampant lying, secret police, unprecedented corruption, and tear gassing peaceful protesters in front of the White House. Everyone in this administration, scum of the earth. 

On 7/17/2020 at 9:25 PM, Planet Houston said:

Maybe so, but at least they didn’t do all of this while wearing a TAN FUCKING SUIT!!!

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

Yes!  Someone called up thread that he was doing a usual suspects bit!

[Irieguy 1059]

4 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

"Darling"

 i hear Eva Gabor.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

[HornPhD 1368]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m so glad I was drunk before reading this because I’ll probably pass out after draining an entire glass of rye whiskey, which I’m going to do right n......

[LongestHorn 759]

2 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

I got all you slackers beat.  I took both my grandmothers to see Lawrence Welk in the FEC, 1976.  Uh one anda two.

You took them to the first FEC concert ever.    And first sold out show.  March 12, 1978

pic from that night 
 

[ChiTownDoc 21152]

What I like to do is take the greatest hits posted here and send them to known Trumptards via text.  They all LOL and that's about it.  They hope that means I'll stop but I'm an asshole so I send these 5-6 people texts every day.  It's actually great because none of them are family or close friends.  Pharm/device reps etc...none of them are really in any position to say shit to me so they bite their tongue and take the onslaught.  Maybe that makes me a bad person - I really don't give a shit.  

[Bama Chick 28596]

What I like to do is take the greatest hits posted here and send them to known Trumptards via text.  They all LOL and that's about it.  They hope that means I'll stop but I'm an asshole so I send these 5-6 people texts every day.  It's actually great because none of them are family or close friends.  Pharm/device reps etc...none of them are really in any position to say shit to me so they bite their tongue and take the onslaught.  Maybe that makes me a bad person - I really don't give a shit.  

[bluto 4919]

That interview tonight he kept talking about how he armed police with all this military equipment as it was all just sitting around collected dust. Yet every other interview it’s about how the military he inherited didn’t even have bullets, just cobwebbed shelves

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

What I like to do is take the greatest hits posted here and send them to known Trumptards via text.  They all LOL and that's about it.  They hope that means I'll stop but I'm an asshole so I send these 5-6 people texts every day.  It's actually great because none of them are family or close friends.  Pharm/device reps etc...none of them are really in any position to say shit to me so they bite their tongue and take the onslaught.  Maybe that makes me a bad person - I really don't give a shit.  

I like the way you roll

[ChiTownDoc 21152]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

Btw I have to say this knowing you were a rep.  I have not let a rep buy me dinner or drinks in fucking ages.  A lot of them, trumptards aside, are good friends and I never let em use their dollars on me.  My COO and business partner was an ortho rep and my best friend in med school.  I can’t stand the cheap bastards that constantly use a rep for free shit and then talk down to ‘em.  I hate it so much I had to come whine in here just in case someone thought I was that guy.  So I may be an asshole, but I’m not THAT asshole.  Glad I cleared that up.  Anyways, fuck Trump. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Btw I have to say this knowing you were a rep.  I have not let a rep buy me dinner or drinks in fucking ages.  A lot of them, trumptards aside, are good friends and I never let em use their dollars on me.  My COO and business partner was an ortho rep and my best friend in med school.  I can’t stand the cheap bastards that constantly use a rep for free shit and then talk down to ‘em.  I hate it so much I had to come whine in here just in case someone thought I was that guy.  So I may be an asshole, but I’m not THAT asshole.  Glad I cleared that up.  Anyways, fuck Trump. 

lol - I bet we could exchange some war stories on that front.

I’m SO glad I’m out of that game. What used to be a fun and interesting and, let’s be honest, lucrative career has turned into something I couldn’t wake up and do any more.

Working for a hospital and managing our physician relations and recruiting is much more fulfilling and not having to chase sales numbers has added 10 years to my life lol.

I got to keep all my good physician relationships and knowledge of our medical community and transition it into a job that doesn’t make me insane.

[HenryJames 66045]

6 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Mmhmm —

[Dnaguy 11948]

9 hours ago, SaucyJack said:

So, did some research on my President's strategery. 

Googled:  suburban housewives blacks coming

I don't think he's gonna like those pole numbers.

Bravo sir.

[4th&Five 41526]

7 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

What I like to do is take the greatest hits posted here and send them to known Trumptards via text.  They all LOL and that's about it.  They hope that means I'll stop but I'm an asshole so I send these 5-6 people texts every day.  It's actually great because none of them are family or close friends.  Pharm/device reps etc...none of them are really in any position to say shit to me so they bite their tongue and take the onslaught.  Maybe that makes me a bad person - I really don't give a shit.  

So, I do this sometimes with friends and the 2 replies I get back are “he’s hilarious” or “dude, they’re all the same anyway so who cares?!”

I’m down to like 3 Trumpkins in my life though. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

I don’t see how ~40% still approve of trump. Presumably they are perfectly ok with trump on covid, the economy and the constant scandals. Remember that roger stone pardon from 2 weeks ago that would have plummeted any other president approval rating. The 40% didn’t care.

there is no further down trump can go. Which is actually great news for him.  He doesn’t need to do anything for that vote and just concentrate on convincing 8% to accept him or think Biden would be worse.

[Okie State 3818]

This is fantastic.

[Okie State 3818]

I don’t see how ~40% still approve of trump. Presumably they are perfectly ok with trump on covid, the economy and the constant scandals. Remember that roger stone pardon from 2 weeks ago that would have plummeted any other president approval rating. The 40% didn’t care.

there is no further down trump can go. Which is actually great news for him.  He doesn’t need to do anything for that vote and just concentrate on convincing 8% to accept him or think Biden would be worse.

They're people like my cousin who posted something this morning about Fauci throwing like a girl. Their lives consist of 'owning the libs'...at least in their own minds. I don't think it gets any deeper than that.