Donald Trump 2020

[Sawbonz 27,580]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Madness. Simply madness.

People see he literally wants them to risk their lives to come to his stupid rallies and they’re like nah. The veto proof majority in the senate on the defense bill is the beginning of the end of his presidency. The rats are fleeing the SS Trump 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

 

[henrygandorf 29,194]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yep and people could debate endlessly about whether leadership is effective or this move or the other move was the right move.

But they seem to know pretty well when there's no leadership at all.

i think most people can agree that the coronavirus "is not trump's fault".  he didn't invent it.  he didn't import it.  but the "this isn't my fault" defense is a lot more palatable when you've done everything you can to protect your citizens.  or at the very least seemed sympathetic about the havoc it's caused.

nah, i'll just complain in the bunker and play golf and blame the media and democrat governors.

[Mole 4,333]

Like many of us, my parents turned from reasonable, thoughtful, caring, educated people to getting their opinions from Tucker. They didn’t go full cult and start flying Trump flags, but they had a Trump sign during election time and started ranting about all the socialists. It was surprising at the time, but Fox is insidious.
 

My family is somewhat scattered across the country, so my parents haven’t played with their grandchildren in about 6 months. Visits were canceled due to our new world. It sucks for everyone. 
 

They’ve essentially been locked in their house and yard. They stopped going to church since no one will wear a mask because America. Unwelcome at church due to Christian hospitality. Unwillingness to be mildly inconvenienced for our brothers has become a Christian identity.
 

My dad emailed me recently expressing some disdain for his worthless R governor failing to allow them some sort of outside life with universal mask wearing. No widespread mask usage means endless lockdown. I commiserated complaining about my even worse R governor and of course the absence of national leadership. 

They’re stuck waiting on a vaccine since that’s our last hope.

A mentor of mine that my parents knew well died of it. That really opened their eyes. My dad knew my mentor’s dad well when I was younger. Seeing your friend lose his son can shake you. Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children.

This stuff has stolen what should have been a wonderful time from my parents and it’s getting hard to ignore. Most of the issues we get worked up over are theoretical to most of us, even the ones that really deeply matter. This isn’t theoretical and it’s damaged all of us. 
 

I don’t know how they plan to vote this fall, but I suspect that losing time with their grandchildren, losing their church community, losing their golden years, and seeing so much suffering might make that old Trump sign look pretty unappealing.

[Bateshorn 9,928]

6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Which raises an interesting point.  The bill requires, apparently, the change of names, but doesn't actually accomplish it.

Which means someone is going to have to put forward the bills that actually change the names.  And then that bill is going to be assigned to Inhofe's committee, which is probably going to bury it, at least until committee assignments change.

@Bateshorn may be able to tell us how that's going to work.

Well, fuck, now I gotta go read the language,  now I’m doing work for you fools.  My retainer is $20k a month (it’s not, I work for a non profit, I got shit ass bosses the same as you.)

I’ll see if I can flip open my lap top and surf the NDAA this weekend. 

[WhatTheBuck 28,794]

22 minutes ago, Mole said:

Like many of us, my parents turned from reasonable, thoughtful, caring, educated people to getting their opinions from Tucker. They didn’t go full cult and start flying Trump flags, but they had a Trump sign during election time and started ranting about all the socialists. It was surprising at the time, but Fox is insidious.
 

My family is somewhat scattered across the country, so my parents haven’t played with their grandchildren in about 6 months. Visits were canceled due to our new world. It sucks for everyone. 
 

They’ve essentially been locked in their house and yard. They stopped going to church since no one will wear a mask because America. Unwelcome at church due to Christian hospitality. Unwillingness to be mildly inconvenienced for our brothers has become a Christian identity.
 

My dad emailed me recently expressing some disdain for his worthless R governor failing to allow them some sort of outside life with universal mask wearing. No widespread mask usage means endless lockdown. I commiserated complaining about my even worse R governor and of course the absence of national leadership. 

They’re stuck waiting on a vaccine since that’s our last hope.

A mentor of mine that my parents knew well died of it. That really opened their eyes. My dad knew my mentor’s dad well when I was younger. Seeing your friend lose his son can shake you. Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children.

This stuff has stolen what should have been a wonderful time from my parents and it’s getting hard to ignore. Most of the issues we get worked up over are theoretical to most of us, even the ones that really deeply matter. This isn’t theoretical and it’s damaged all of us. 
 

I don’t know how they plan to vote this fall, but I suspect that losing time with their grandchildren, losing their church community, losing their golden years, and seeing so much suffering might make that old Trump sign look pretty unappealing.

Yeah, but imagine the lawless hellscape if Biden gets elected! Haven't you seen the commercials?

[staboner 4,984]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Madness. Simply madness.

Crazy eh?

Everyone and anyone not polluted with this idiotic culture war could have told you this was the case. That this is what would happen if he and his "team of yes minstels" actually had to lead. 

Every day we aren't nuked is a fucking blessing. Its hahaha i am funny hahaha no, serious happy to still be alive today.

A team of yes men parading around in complete and utter isolation from the truth is ALARMING. flat out scary as shit. 

It was scary November 2016 and is every fucking day since. 

Ya'll homies be good now. I made it to Saturday and so can you. 

[Born to Run 6,569]

I think the other thing is that his failed attempts to blame the Democrat Party and the lamestream media and his various lies about the pandemic have actually damaged his credibility among a fair number who had previously gone along with these fables.  They're like "oh shit, maybe it wasn't the do nothing democrats and media, maybe he's been completely full of shit about everything all along."

I'll believe it when I see it. I see way too many Trump flags in my travels. No one likes to admit they fucked up. They double down.

[Born to Run 6,569]

I know of one Trump supporter that turned on him due to Covid. They are not going to vote for Biden but said they will just sit out of the election.
The pandemic has been a beating for everyone and most people realize that there is a big problem with our response and that Facui isn't the cause for our poor response plan.

Bullshit
They will get a good dose of propaganda and vote against socialism.

[Born to Run 6,569]

Exactamundo.
The American people may be dumb, hell I am sometimes, but we’re not that dumb.

Even the dumbest here is likely smarter than 80% of the gen pop. We dumb. Trump just needs to give away 2 cases of White Claw to each house and he's a lock in November.
I shouldn't have said that/

[F250 28,806]

6 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Bullshit
They will get a good dose of propaganda and vote against socialism.

Eh, I am not talking about the die-hards but the Republicans who just vote out of habit. Trim off some of the straight ticket voters and he is done. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

People really don’t understand there is a huge swath of independent voters out there that gets ignored in almost all the political media coverage. 

[Sawbonz 27,580]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

People really don’t understand there is a huge swath of independent voters out there that gets ignored in almost all the political media coverage. 

And they will break bigly for Biden

[Brisketexan 105,190]

People really don’t understand there is a huge swath of independent voters out there that gets ignored in almost all the political media coverage. 

True independent voters are unicorns, and that’s more the case every day that passes.
People who vote 90% for one party aren’t “independent.” They’re Dems/Republican who occasionally cross over.

[TwiceHorn 31,516]

50 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Well, fuck, now I gotta go read the language,  now I’m doing work for you fools.  My retainer is $20k a month (it’s not, I work for a non profit, I got shit ass bosses the same as you.)

I’ll see if I can flip open my lap top and surf the NDAA this weekend. 

Well, prompted by Pig, I rooted around and it appears that base naming is the responsibility of an Assistant Secretary of the Army.

What I don't know is whether congress can order a major minion in an executive department to do anything.  That would go for both the NDAA as well as Inhofe and the Armed Services Comittee.

[JimmyJames 12,271]

1 hour ago, Mole said:

Like many of us, my parents turned from reasonable, thoughtful, caring, educated people to getting their opinions from Tucker. They didn’t go full cult and start flying Trump flags, but they had a Trump sign during election time and started ranting about all the socialists. It was surprising at the time, but Fox is insidious.
 

My family is somewhat scattered across the country, so my parents haven’t played with their grandchildren in about 6 months. Visits were canceled due to our new world. It sucks for everyone. 
 

They’ve essentially been locked in their house and yard. They stopped going to church since no one will wear a mask because America. Unwelcome at church due to Christian hospitality. Unwillingness to be mildly inconvenienced for our brothers has become a Christian identity.
 

My dad emailed me recently expressing some disdain for his worthless R governor failing to allow them some sort of outside life with universal mask wearing. No widespread mask usage means endless lockdown. I commiserated complaining about my even worse R governor and of course the absence of national leadership. 

They’re stuck waiting on a vaccine since that’s our last hope.

A mentor of mine that my parents knew well died of it. That really opened their eyes. My dad knew my mentor’s dad well when I was younger. Seeing your friend lose his son can shake you. Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children.

This stuff has stolen what should have been a wonderful time from my parents and it’s getting hard to ignore. Most of the issues we get worked up over are theoretical to most of us, even the ones that really deeply matter. This isn’t theoretical and it’s damaged all of us. 
 

I don’t know how they plan to vote this fall, but I suspect that losing time with their grandchildren, losing their church community, losing their golden years, and seeing so much suffering might make that old Trump sign look pretty unappealing.

As I’ve said a few times on this board, my Dad is one of the biggest trump supporters around. He’s a Ron Paul type Republican who actually hates the Texas Republican Party like Abbot and Perry, but he loves him some trump. Go figure.

So when COVID hit he’s sheltered in place since then. He is also adamant that my mom, who is extremely sociable, not risk herself by seeing much of anyone, unless its walking outdoors. It’s because he loves her so much that he will not let her incur any risk on it, which I believe he believes in. Deep down I now he knows the risks of the virus, especially since they are approaching their 80s. 

I haven’t asked him if his views on trump have changed yet because I am frankly worried about what his answer will be. He’s gotten old and doesn’t always think straight. Before all this happened he was the type that would deny trump said something because CNN doctored the video. I will eventually. For now I’m just glad he’s taking this thing seriously. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

True independent voters are unicorns, and that’s more the case every day that passes.
People who vote 90% for one party aren’t “independent.” They’re Dems/Republican who occasionally cross over.

This is true.  However, it’s the independents that usually decide elections. 

[Brisketexan 105,190]

This is true.  However, it’s the independents that usually decide elections. 

Th is is our concern, dude.

[Mole 4,333]

15 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

As I’ve said a few times on this board, my Dad is one of the biggest trump supporters around. He’s a Ron Paul type Republican who actually hates the Texas Republican Party like Abbot and Perry, but he loves him some trump. Go figure.

So when COVID hit he’s sheltered in place since then. He is also adamant that my mom, who is extremely sociable, not risk herself by seeing much of anyone, unless its walking outdoors. It’s because he loves her so much that he will not let her incur any risk on it, which I believe he believes in. Deep down I now he knows the risks of the virus, especially since they are approaching their 80s. 

I haven’t asked him if his views on trump have changed yet because I am frankly worried about what his answer will be. He’s gotten old and doesn’t always think straight. Before all this happened he was the type that would deny trump said something because CNN doctored the video. I will eventually. For now I’m just glad he’s taking this thing seriously. 

I’ve thought about how to point out what’s been stolen from us - very precious family time - without being cruel. Maybe with real leadership we still might not have been able to visit this summer, but it sure would have improved the odds. 
 

At some point prior to November, I think it will be good to explicitly point out the obvious,  but it’s delicate due to the personal nature of having their life shut down.  The lonely and painful death of this thing is a pretty terrifying prospect.

 

[Born to Run 6,569]

Eh, I am not talking about the die-hards but the Republicans who just vote out of habit. Trim off some of the straight ticket voters and he is done. 

That's who I'm talking about. The entire state outside a few blue areas will still vote straight R. They say they won't until October shenanigans force the issue. And they will all vote. I'd be happy to be wrong, but Texas gonna Texas.

[F250 28,806]

28 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This is true.  However, it’s the independents that usually decide elections. 

Cross over voters in the Rust Belt swung the 2016 election.

[SameSame 1,705]

3 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Always good to see how he’s looking forward with leadership and solutions on his mind, and not dwelling on past delusions that make him look like a complete whiny bitch.  Go America!

[SameSame 1,705]

4 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Always good to see how he’s looking forward with leadership and solutions on his mind, and not dwelling on past delusions that make him look like a complete whiny bitch.  Go America!

[Horn Dog 9,895]

3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-bleak-trumps-great-american-comeback-is-a-dumpster-fire

 

 

 

[F250 28,806]

4 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

49 minutes ago, F250 said:

Eh, I am not talking about the die-hards but the Republicans who just vote out of habit. Trim off some of the straight ticket voters and he is done. 

That's who I'm talking about. The entire state outside a few blue areas will still vote straight R. They say they won't until October shenanigans force the issue. And they will all vote. I'd be happy to be wrong, but Texas gonna Texas.

Does anyone really expect the deep red states like Texas to swing blue? It's the swing states that matter; Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, maybe Arizona.

A loss of the reliable straight ticket voters can easily flip the swing states. They just need to stay home during the election.

[JimmyJames 12,271]

2 minutes ago, F250 said:

Does anyone really expect the deep red states like Texas to swing blue? It's the swing states that matter; Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, maybe Arizona.

A loss of the reliable straight ticket voters can easily flip the swing states. They just need to stay home during the election.

Things will get worse in the fall, unfortunately. Thousands of people will die. Flu season will make it hard to determine who has what and the hospitals will be overwhelmed. The election will be a rout.

[JimmyJames 12,271]

Y’all do realize that since we are in the middle of July the virus should be receding, not accelerating right? That’s what is happening in most places not named Trump America. 

[F250 28,806]

1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

Things will get worse in the fall, unfortunately. Thousands of people will die. Flu season will make it hard to determine who has what and the hospitals will be overwhelmed. The election will be a rout.

Agree, there is a reason Trump suddenly found religion when it comes to masks.

[JimmyJames 12,271]

3 minutes ago, F250 said:

Agree, there is a reason Trump suddenly found religion when it comes to masks.

And even his supporters wont believe it. It’s all a democratic hoax. And will be until they die from it, then on their deathbed they might, maybe, believe it. 

The republicans politicized this. Don’t ever forget that. 

[Beau Vine 54,339]

That’s the point - leading on an issue like this is so easy most any moron can do it.
But apparently not a malignant narcissist moron.

Sure, there would be some tough decisions to be made, but all you have to say is “this is a new disease. We don’t always understand exactly what we’re facing or exactly what it will do. But we’ll make the best decisions we can. And when the evidence tells us to change what we’re doing, we’ll make the next decision. But I can promise you one thing - we will always try to do what’s best for the American people.”

Again, a fucking 4th grader could write and deliver this shit.

It's literally about being honest and humble, which he is completely incapable of.

[ChiTownDoc 21,154]

8 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

 

The beginning when he says ‘yeauhhh’ to ‘can you help us?’ is so fucking perfect.  These guys are just bludgeoning Dotard.  Wow.  It’s a beautiful thing to see.  Needless to say several trumptards got this via text this afternoon.  Good times all around.  

[TexEx15 17,557]

He seems confused.  Edit - or he means that his team needs to win in 2020 because he doesn’t like the decision.  Either way he doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing,

Edited July 25, 2020 by TexEx15

[F250 28,806]

13 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

He seems confused.  Edit - or he means that his team needs to win in 2020 because he doesn’t like the decision.  Either way he doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing,

[WhatTheBuck 28,794]

47 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Things will get worse in the fall, unfortunately. Thousands of people will die. Flu season will make it hard to determine who has what and the hospitals will be overwhelmed. The election will be a rout.

I don't think the flu will be that big of a deal if we're already wearing masks and maintaining social distancing to fight the coronavirus. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Trump is almost past the point of no return on suppressing the virus before the election. Without some kind of national lockdown/stay at home order over the next month, we’re not going to be able to quickly “flatten the curve” within 100 days. 

[DanTheHorn 4,939]

11 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I don't think the flu will be that big of a deal if we're already wearing masks and maintaining social distancing to fight the coronavirus. 

Well according to trumpkins kids don't bring home covid but they damn sure being home the flu.

[cactusflinthead 27,601]

 

[tx 3 putt 77,270]

the death panels are here !!!!

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/karenrobinsonjacobs/2020/07/24/small-texas-hospital-says-ethics-panel-will-help-pick-who-gets-aggressive-covid-care/

 

 

[Mdhorn 5,975]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

True independent voters are unicorns, and that’s more the case every day that passes.
People who vote 90% for one party aren’t “independent.” They’re Dems/Republican who occasionally cross over.

Yep, I’ve been an independent until Hillary and finally said I want a say in who’s going to be the dem nominee.

[Huckleberry 33,057]

3 hours ago, staboner said:

Ya'll homies be good now. I made it to Saturday and so can you. 

That's two in recent posts. Strike three and I'll have to rage react. Fair warning! 

[Mdhorn 5,975]

1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

He seems confused.  Edit - or he means that his team needs to win in 2020 because he doesn’t like the decision.  Either way he doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing,

Maybe he’s tired of losing and has decided since facts don’t matter, he can pick and choose his wins after the rulings. You know, the hindsight thingy. He should be able to win 100% of the time with this logic while not caring about the issues. Nah, he’s batshit. 

[safe sex 11,739]

That's two in recent posts. Strike three and I'll have to rage react. Fair warning! 

I'm glad I'm not the only one

[Mdhorn 5,975]

2 hours ago, Mole said:

I’ve thought about how to point out what’s been stolen from us - very precious family time - without being cruel. Maybe with real leadership we still might not have been able to visit this summer, but it sure would have improved the odds. 
 

At some point prior to November, I think it will be good to explicitly point out the obvious,  but it’s delicate due to the personal nature of having their life shut down.  The lonely and painful death of this thing is a pretty terrifying prospect.

 

It was less believable when it was something happening to someone else. I keep telling my fam how many different ways do they have to tell you they don’t care about you? They’ve asked you to sacrifice the elderly and now children for the economy. But it didn’t matter until it was affecting them. 

Edited July 25, 2020 by Mdhorn

[Bama Chick 28,596]

Well, fuck, now I gotta go read the language,  now I’m doing work for you fools.  My retainer is $20k a month (it’s not, I work for a non profit, I got shit ass bosses the same as you.)
I’ll see if I can flip open my lap top and surf the NDAA this weekend. 

I just want to say I’m really glad you post here and share your point of view from “inside the beltway”.

I learn a lot from you and I appreciate the way you cut through a lot of the convoluted nonsense.

[Bama Chick 28,596]

Ha!

[Sawbonz 27,580]

5 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Trump is almost past the point of no return on suppressing the virus before the election. Without some kind of national lockdown/stay at home order over the next month, we’re not going to be able to quickly “flatten the curve” within 100 days. 

Thanks to his intransigence that horse is out of the barn. Had he done that back in late March and opened up around Memorial Day with a mask order we would be back to some semblance of normal by now. People know 

Edited July 25, 2020 by Sawbonz

[Chad Fuck 17,712]

I’m telling you covid has opened a lot of eyes. Needless suffering and death hitting close to home while this fuckstick preens with no mask while everyone around him is tested and positives are quarantined. He’s done

He’s a very devout guy, but he also understands science. He was the quintessential one issue voter: abortion. But then his FiL got sick and he has to literally clean up his shit. Then insurance became the primary motivation after he realized no one around him was getting abortions, but they were getting sick. The coronavirus debacle added to his certainty Trump is terrible. But really it was that the daily cascade of dotard’s fuckups became overwhelming.

[TexEx15 17,557]

Tell us how you really feel.  Damn this is good.

[TwiceHorn 31,516]

16 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Tell us how you really feel.  Damn this is good.

Don WInslow is a severely underrated American treasure.

https://deadline.com/2020/07/don-winslow-president-trump-barbed-videos-coronavirus-policies-watch-1202989421/

His "Cartel" series of books is fantastic.

Edited July 25, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Pam Cummings 9,651]

If you were actively trying to destroy this country, i really don't think you'd do anything different than what trump has done.