Donald Trump 2020

[Pig Bellmont 8,719]

15 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

it won't matter if his taxes ever come out.  it won't matter if his taxes don't ever come out.  you wanna know why?  because we already know what's in them.

since early 2017 when people starting resigning, we heard that trump has no organizational skills, no attention span, no respect for history or procedure, and only acts on his personal grievances.  most people were like, oh, yeah, that sounds right, he runs his business like a 1970's mob boss.  then it kept happening. 

articles quoting staffers from air force 1 talking about how he basically held them hostage talking their ears off about stupid shit, and trailing off muttering about cable news and obama.  and how they skipped dinners and other events overseas because they felt the "food would be too challenging for him".  and how they have to sneak vegetables into his mashed potatoes like a fucking dog.  and everyone was like, well yeah, he's a toddler. 

then he got caught asking other countries to help him win the election.  we read the transcripts.  we heard the testimony.  and everyone was like, well, yeah, he doesn't care about governing, he only cares about reelection and "winning" and having people like him.  

then bolton comes out with his book.  and we heard that every decision he made in 3 years was based on the calculus of reelection, and as shocking as that should've been, nothing bolton said was even news-worthy with this president, because he's a fucking imbecile with zero experience in government or world affairs, and has no idea where half the countries are.  and he fawned over dictators who said nice things to him because yeah, of course, he's a horrifying narcissist.  

then his niece came out with a book recalling all these terrible stories of him being a piece of shit, and it was barely a blip.  because everyone was like, well yeah, he's a piece of shit.

and now 175,000 people are dead, and the president is fucking with the postal service and tweeting about voter fraud and calling obama a traitor, instead of trying to fix it or show empathy, and everyone is like yeah, he has no ability to show empathy, he's a piece of shit criminal narcissist toddler fucking fraud of a human.  the rest of the world just shrugs and feels bad for (some of) us.

so let me give you a little cheat sheet.  he's overvalued his assets in order to commit insurance fraud.  he's undervalued his worth in order to commit tax fraud.  he's not worth nearly what he tells people or what he himself probably believes.  he owes people/banks in china and russia 10x what he could ever possibly pay them.  he has dirty deals with dirty people and if he wasn't president he probably would be at the bottom of the east river in a rolled up rug.

i don't need to see his financials and neither do you.  and spoiler alert, if they come out, and say, well, exactly what every person thinks they say, then all the people who hate him will vote for biden, and all the people who like him, will still support him.  nothing moves the needle.  there is no needle.  he sold it to buy greenland.

That’s all true, but NY will absolutely prosecute after a grand jury indicts. 

[TwiceHorn 31,520]

21 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

it won't matter if his taxes ever come out.  it won't matter if his taxes don't ever come out.  you wanna know why?  because we already know what's in them.

since early 2017 when people starting resigning, we heard that trump has no organizational skills, no attention span, no respect for history or procedure, and only acts on his personal grievances.  most people were like, oh, yeah, that sounds right, he runs his business like a 1970's mob boss.  then it kept happening. 

articles quoting staffers from air force 1 talking about how he basically held them hostage talking their ears off about stupid shit, and trailing off muttering about cable news and obama.  and how they skipped dinners and other events overseas because they felt the "food would be too challenging for him".  and how they have to sneak vegetables into his mashed potatoes like a fucking dog.  and everyone was like, well yeah, he's a toddler. 

then he got caught asking other countries to help him win the election.  we read the transcripts.  we heard the testimony.  and everyone was like, well, yeah, he doesn't care about governing, he only cares about reelection and "winning" and having people like him.  

then bolton comes out with his book.  and we heard that every decision he made in 3 years was based on the calculus of reelection, and as shocking as that should've been, nothing bolton said was even news-worthy with this president, because he's a fucking imbecile with zero experience in government or world affairs, and has no idea where half the countries are.  and he fawned over dictators who said nice things to him because yeah, of course, he's a horrifying narcissist.  

then his niece came out with a book recalling all these terrible stories of him being a piece of shit, and it was barely a blip.  because everyone was like, well yeah, he's a piece of shit.

and now 175,000 people are dead, and the president is fucking with the postal service and tweeting about voter fraud and calling obama a traitor, instead of trying to fix it or show empathy, and everyone is like yeah, he has no ability to show empathy, he's a piece of shit criminal narcissist toddler fucking fraud of a human.  the rest of the world just shrugs and feels bad for (some of) us.

so let me give you a little cheat sheet.  he's overvalued his assets in order to commit insurance fraud.  he's undervalued his worth in order to commit tax fraud.  he's not worth nearly what he tells people or what he himself probably believes.  he owes people/banks in china and russia 10x what he could ever possibly pay them.  he has dirty deals with dirty people and if he wasn't president he probably would be at the bottom of the east river in a rolled up rug.

i don't need to see his financials and neither do you.  and spoiler alert, if they come out, and say, well, exactly what every person thinks they say, then all the people who hate him will vote for biden, and all the people who like him, will still support him.  nothing moves the needle.  there is no needle.  he sold it to buy greenland.

Kind of insulting to mob bosses, really.  A lot of them were/are fairly astute businessmen.

The value of seeing his financial information is the humiliation and ensuing meltdown.

Edited August 20, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[jimmyjazz 46,050]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

You think that the people involved at those entities won't be facing real, harsh threats of blackmail, bodily injury, or worse, from the admin and its allies?  It's a criminal gang.  Seriously, for all of these, just "imagine what the mafia would do if it was in the admin's position," and you have your answer.

Yeah, no, this is you going way too far out on the ledge again.  Banks and accounting firms don't serve at the pleasure of the President.  They aren't going to screw the other 99+% of their business just to enable a rogue President.  Not happening.

[Brisketexan 105,205]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, no, this is you going way too far out on the ledge again.  Banks and accounting firms don't serve at the pleasure of the President.  They aren't going to screw the other 99+% of their business just to enable a rogue President.  Not happening.

The president.  A corrupt AG leading a DOJ that is now the president's personal law firm, and a Senate and individual Senators who will do his bidding?  Institutions will absolutely bend their knee to that.  That's how it's worked in every corrupt banana republic in human history -- ours will be no different. 

That's been the maddening failing in our collective thinking.  We see example after example of crooked, autocratic regimes, and say "but we're different!"....with no good reason to say that.  We aren't different.  We are just another crooked shithole country.   We had a failsafe.  It failed.  So here we are.

[Jiggy-Z 3,435]

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

it won't matter if his taxes ever come out.  it won't matter if his taxes don't ever come out.  you wanna know why?  because we already know what's in them.

since early 2017 when people starting resigning, we heard that trump has no organizational skills, no attention span, no respect for history or procedure, and only acts on his personal grievances.  most people were like, oh, yeah, that sounds right, he runs his business like a 1970's mob boss.  then it kept happening. 

articles quoting staffers from air force 1 talking about how he basically held them hostage talking their ears off about stupid shit, and trailing off muttering about cable news and obama.  and how they skipped dinners and other events overseas because they felt the "food would be too challenging for him".  and how they have to sneak vegetables into his mashed potatoes like a fucking dog.  and everyone was like, well yeah, he's a toddler. 

then he got caught asking other countries to help him win the election.  we read the transcripts.  we heard the testimony.  and everyone was like, well, yeah, he doesn't care about governing, he only cares about reelection and "winning" and having people like him.  

then bolton comes out with his book.  and we heard that every decision he made in 3 years was based on the calculus of reelection, and as shocking as that should've been, nothing bolton said was even news-worthy with this president, because he's a fucking imbecile with zero experience in government or world affairs, and has no idea where half the countries are.  and he fawned over dictators who said nice things to him because yeah, of course, he's a horrifying narcissist.  

then his niece came out with a book recalling all these terrible stories of him being a piece of shit, and it was barely a blip.  because everyone was like, well yeah, he's a piece of shit.

and now 175,000 people are dead, and the president is fucking with the postal service and tweeting about voter fraud and calling obama a traitor, instead of trying to fix it or show empathy, and everyone is like yeah, he has no ability to show empathy, he's a piece of shit criminal narcissist toddler fucking fraud of a human.  the rest of the world just shrugs and feels bad for (some of) us.

so let me give you a little cheat sheet.  he's overvalued his assets in order to commit insurance fraud.  he's undervalued his worth in order to commit tax fraud.  he's not worth nearly what he tells people or what he himself probably believes.  he owes people/banks in china and russia 10x what he could ever possibly pay them.  he has dirty deals with dirty people and if he wasn't president he probably would be at the bottom of the east river in a rolled up rug.

i don't need to see his financials and neither do you.  and spoiler alert, if they come out, and say, well, exactly what every person thinks they say, then all the people who hate him will vote for biden, and all the people who like him, will still support him.  nothing moves the needle.  there is no needle.  he sold it to buy greenland.

I have a feeling based on what has been put out there tax wise, that there will be few surprises.  The incriminating stuff will be in the details and forensics.

We know from the NYT story that he was hemorrhaging money  at the turn of the century and his dubious deals before then are also well known and documented.

We know from a Forbes article that he in fact does have some winners property wise.  His minority share in two buildings have net value over 1 billion.

If any of the details ever come to light, I think we are going to see massive money laundering leading him out of his financial hole from 2000 onward.

I see his max net worth at $2 billion tops..and I think I am being very generous as I have no idea what kind of debt he has.  Additionally, if he had truly amassed a net worth anywhere close to what he says he has then I would think American banks would be lining up, unless of course, the source of that success was criminal, which I think it is.

[TwiceHorn 31,520]

10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, no, this is you going way too far out on the ledge again.  Banks and accounting firms don't serve at the pleasure of the President.  They aren't going to screw the other 99+% of their business just to enable a rogue President.  Not happening.

I'm intrigued by the fact that DB apparently complied with the subpoena without legal objection from Trump.  First, I'm not sure there's a duty by an institution to notify its client of a subpoena, in fact, some are purportedly secret and the institution is forbidden from notifying the client.  Mazar's may have violated that.  Or maybe Trumpco just dropped the ball, which seems somewhat likely.

In the event, DB, which is balls deep in Trump, and vice-versa, and also in trouble with all manner of legal authorities, complied with the subpoena with little or no foofaraw.

Edited August 20, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[TwiceHorn 31,520]

8 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I have a feeling based on what has been put out there tax wise, that there will be few surprises.  The incriminating stuff will be in the details and forensics.

We know from the NYT story that he was hemorrhaging money  at the turn of the century and his dubious deals before then are also well known and documented.

We know from a Forbes article that he in fact does have some winners property wise.  His minority share in two buildings have net value over 1 billion.

If any of the details ever come to light, I think we are going to see massive money laundering leading him out of his financial hole from 2000 onward.

I see his max net worth at $2 billion tops..and I think I am being very generous as I have no idea what kind of debt he has.  Additionally, if he had truly amassed a net worth anywhere close to what he says he has then I would think American banks would be lining up, unless of course, the source of that success was criminal, which I think it is.

This is true.  It's going to be too complicated for most laypeople, including journalists, to figure out quickly.

I imagine most of the malfeasance will be occurring at a corporate, rather than personal, level.  His personal returns will probably reflect a shit ton of "management fees" and "consulting fees" on a lot of money-losing deals.  But that shit's SOP on Wall Street, so kind of not that shocking.  They will also show probably some big-time debt service, but not the amount of the debt.  An income tax return is like a corporate income statement, not a balance sheet, so it's only a part of the picture.

Edited August 20, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[jimmyjazz 46,050]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The president.  A corrupt AG leading a DOJ that is now the president's personal law firm, and a Senate and individual Senators who will do his bidding?  Institutions will absolutely bend their knee to that.  That's how it's worked in every corrupt banana republic in human history -- ours will be no different. 

That's been the maddening failing in our collective thinking.  We see example after example of crooked, autocratic regimes, and say "but we're different!"....with no good reason to say that.  We aren't different.  We are just another crooked shithole country.   We had a failsafe.  It failed.  So here we are.

Deutche Bank has already proven you wrong.  I'm sorry, but you're insane if you think businesses with $50B of transactions annual are gonna fuck up their bottom line by protecting a two-bit con man who owes them $1B.

[Horn Dog 9,900]

26 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I want to +rep this post, but I just can't because it's depressing as fuck. 

That's what the horns are for.  Even after a humiliating, gut wrenching loss...horns still up.

[henrygandorf 29,194]

10 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I have a feeling based on what has been put out there tax wise, that there will be few surprises.  The incriminating stuff will be in the details and forensics.

oh, i'm sure some of it will be enlightening.

but it won't change minds before the election (even if they come out before, which i doubt), and it won't result in him getting prosecuted or serving time.  he'll delay shit for years until he dies.

i'm 100% positive it's bad, because he's been hiding his shit for decades.

[Biff Tannen 45,701]

It's truly bizarre when you take a step back and realize what has happened.  Why are so many people in this country fundamentally broken?  This guy couldn't be a more obvious conman if he tried and they just merrily dance to his tune like the Pied Piper.  

[henrygandorf 29,194]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

It's truly bizarre when you take a step back and realize what has happened.  Why are so many people in this country fundamentally broken?  This guy couldn't be a more obvious conman if he tried and they just merrily dance to his tune like the Pied Piper.  

the only part that keeps me sane is the thought that at least half of them are smart enough to hate themselves at the end of every day.

i know it's not true, but please let me have this.  i ask for so little.

[triplehorn 2,664]

Not sure what it's going to take, but it's all too obvious there needs to be international cooperation around true global banking reform and oversight to staunch the growing decades-long river of illicit cash flow via mass international money laundering - the ability to use banks to mask transactions and conduits through the trillion dollar off-ledger economy nestled offshore.  Cut off the illicit money flow and you neuter this shit from the global economic and political elite all the way down.  The money fuels and sustains all this fuckery. all of it.

[SydneyCarton 48,147]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Deutche Bank has already proven you wrong.  I'm sorry, but you're insane if you think businesses with $50B of transactions annual are gonna fuck up their bottom line by protecting a two-bit con man who owes them $1B.

He's also ignoring glaring, obvious fact that historically multi-national banks outlast political regimes and can often tell anyone they want to fuck off. This isn't Noriega waltzing into the Bank of Panama and stealing Jung's cash and gold deposits in the 3rd act of BLOW. If NOTHING else (and there are a LOT of other elses) it's richer and much more powerful people than Trump who do business with those banks reminding them exactly where their bread is truly buttered, as you already alluded to...just absurd. Hence why the banks handed the shit over no problem while Brisket is rubbing himself with peanut butter and about to fly into his back yard to play in the bird bath again. 

[Jiggy-Z 3,435]

16 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This is true.  It's going to be too complicated for most laypeople, including journalists, to figure out quickly.

I imagine most of the malfeasance will be occurring at a corporate, rather than personal level.  His personal returns will probably reflect a shit ton of "management fees" and "consulting fees" on a lot of money-losing deals.  But that shit's SOP on Wall Street, so kind of not that shocking.

Then again, let's revisit the NYT article from DCREPORT.ORG

 

https://www.dcreport.org/2019/05/08/the-biggest-loser/

 

Featured Story, Taxes, The Latest News

The Biggest Loser

New Trump Tax Facts Hint at Massive Cheating and Vulnerability to Russian Influence

By David Cay Johnston, DCReport Editor-in-Chief

David Cay Johnston

Now that Donald Trump has been exposed as perhaps the biggest loser in American business history, here are two reasonable questions to ask:

1. Does this shed any light on his fight to keep Congress from seeing his recent tax returns?
2. Do Trump’s tax filings matter to us and our government?

And the answers are yes and YES!

Trump’s business tax losses from 1985 through 1995 were revealed Tuesday by The New York Times. A source who had legal possession of Trump’s tax data, known as transcripts, gave them to the newspaper.

The losses Trump took far exceed the value of his buildings… That means he also had large other losses, which was known generally, but not the scale of those losses.

Any taxpayer can get their own IRS tax transcript. People routinely authorize banks, employers and others to obtain their personal and business transcripts.

Trump, in a predawn tweet, denounced The Times story as a “highly inaccurate Fake News hit job!”

Despite the bluster, the data is a reliable record of what Trump told the IRS in his annual tax returns, as the newspaper carefully explained to readers.

Audit Scrutiny

A major implication of these tax documents, as well as the 2005 partial tax return obtained and other records, is that Trump’s tax returns would not stand up under audit.

For example, consider the paper real estate losses Trump took on his tax returns.

Congress allows real estate developers to depreciate the value of their buildings even if they were bought with 100% borrowed money, as Trump did repeatedly. Owners of all other kinds of businesses must have their own money at risk to get tax breaks.

So, reporting negative income, as Trump did every year, is no surprise. But the size of the losses is. Trump took almost 2% of all the losses reported in 1994 in the whole country, The Times reported.

The real estate losses Trump took far exceed the value of his buildings and the limits enacted by Congress governing how much of that value can be written off each year. That means he also had large other losses, which was known generally, but not the scale of those losses.

So why didn’t the IRS catch this? Because there is no tax to collect when there are losses, reported as negative income. Imagine a tax return showing $10 million of negative income. An auditor works the case and finds $3 million of phony losses. The taxpayer now has $7 million of negative income and no tax is due.

For years I urged IRS commissioners, key staff and Congressional tax staff to take a hard look at people who report negative income not once because of business failure, but year after year. Waste of limited audit resources, I was told.

Under a 1924 anti-corruption law the IRS must hand over the tax returns requested by Rep. Richard Neal, the Massachusetts Democrat who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee.

Trump is refusing to obey the law. Based on past performance those returns will show that Trump is a tax cheat.

Trump’s Two Tax Fraud Trials

Remember that Trump lost two tax fraud trials. These were civil, not criminal trials, but the evidence was damning and more than sufficient to have justified criminal charges. Trump’s own tax lawyer and accountant, Jack Mitnick, testified against him at one trial.

Trump’s recent tax returns will no doubt show that he has continued his past conduct. And they will likely show he is nowhere near as wealthy as he claims, even after revising downward his claim of more than $10 billion of wealth to about a tenth of that in his Office of Government Ethics reports, which hardly anyone seems to know.

Tax crime was one of the articles of impeachment that Richard Nixon escaped by resigning. Nixon’s tax lawyer went to prison, while Nixon got a pardon from Jerry Ford, our only unelected president.

Beyond the expanded reasons that Congress needs to get, and audit, Trump’s tax returns is the impact on our government.

If millions of people believe the president can cheat the government and get away with it then tax cheating will rise. Two decades ago I exposed 14 small business owners who didn’t withhold taxes from their workers’ paychecks or pay their own taxes, boasting that since the IRS had not moved against them, they must be behaving legally. Those business owners were then all indicted separately, tried, convicted and sent to prison, where some of them died.

There’s another even more troubling aspect to Trump’s taxes and our government.

Throughout his career, Trump has been on one desperate search for cash after another. That’s because instead of building up profitable businesses, he strips them of cash, abandons them and moves on. That fits a classic profile of someone susceptible to being influenced by unsavory forces, be they mob loan sharks or foreign intelligence agencies.

We know from the family’s own mouths that the Trumps have depended heavily on Russian money. Public records show extensive Russian investment in Trump properties.

And we know that Trump has denounced America’s foreign intelligence agencies, including the FBI, while praising Vladimir Putin and saying he trusts what Putin says.

Imagine Obama Behaving Like Trump

In the Oval Office Trump disclosed sources and methods, the most sensitive intelligence information, to the Russian foreign minister and its ambassador to America. We know this only because the Russians announced it, by the way.

Imagine for a moment what would have happened if Barack Obama had behaved that way.

What is the complete financial history between the oligarchs, as Putin’s gang of thieves is known, and Trump?

It may be that Trump is just a fool, not Putin’s tool. But we don’t know because Trump is stonewalling on the Mueller Report, which he tried to block by firing Mueller (his aides would not carry out the order) and holding back testimony and the redacted portions of the report. Since Trump has said Mueller vindicated him, why would Trump do this? The answer is obvious.

The story of Trump’s taxes is the story of a man who’s lying, cheating, stealing and continual in need of cash to sustain the image of a multi-billionaire has made him vulnerable to kompromat. It is the story of a known tax cheat who has taken an oath to uphold and defend our Constitution but ignores that oath, violate that oath.

It is a story whose most salient financial circumstances and connections remain hidden. And they will remain hidden unless we demand transparency not from Trump, who will never be open, but from our Congress.

Featured image: New York Times graphic

[SydneyCarton 48,147]

2 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

Not sure what it's going to take, but it's all too obvious there needs to be international cooperation around true global banking reform and oversight to staunch the growing decades-long river of illicit cash flow via mass international money laundering - the ability to use banks to mask transactions and conduits through the trillion dollar off-ledger economy nestled offshore.  Cut off the illicit money flow and you neuter this shit from the global economic and political elite all the way down.  The money fuels and sustains all this fuckery. all of it.

From your lips to Elizabeth Warren's ears, sir. 

[Gooby 640]

1 hour ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Sometimes mafia stories have a happy ending like what happened to Joe Pesci and his brother's character in Casino.

You know, that was heartwarming.

[burntorangebongos 10,752]

8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

It's truly bizarre when you take a step back and realize what has happened.  Why are so many people in this country fundamentally broken?  This guy couldn't be a more obvious conman if he tried and they just merrily dance to his tune like the Pied Piper.  

They bought into the divisive lie that the "other" is what is holding them back. They are being led by their fear. Member the line, Jews will not replace us? I don't know what that even means but they do and that is why they follow the guy who says what they already believe because this shit has been sold by the elite since the beginning to keep the rable from focusing their anger at them. I used to believe that was conspiracy talk but it explains everything to me because they have been so blatant in their shennigans of late. 

[Red Five 40,879]

Also a lot of people only watch Fox News. 

[Brisketexan 105,205]

17 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

while Brisket is rubbing himself with peanut butter and about to fly into his back yard to play in the bird bath again. 

Wait.....is this a thing?  Cuz, I mean....it's hot outside, but the birdbath would be cool.

[Bama Chick 28,596]

But Biden isn’t all there mentally!!

[TheStoicPaisano 9,923]

[Gil Bang 25,988]

3 hours ago, Superhero said:

Yup x 10. Had a debate with a few of my friend's friends.

They didn't believe the number of Covid cases and deaths despite it being on every single fucking legitimate news outlet. I tell them to look at Reuters and AP (deemed the most factual and non-partisan of news outlets according to the Media Bias Chart). Then they turn around and asked who put together the media bias chart.

They claim MSM is all fake news and they only believe what they see on Facebook and through forwarded emails. They are a lost cause. I've given up talking to them because they're already indoctrinated by the fuhrer.

Hey dude, just curious:  were these "friend's friends" white or Asian folk?  

If the Asians are this stupid, we're really fucked.  

[Beau Vine 54,352]

5 hours ago, Red Five said:

Ok I seriously think now that that whole crew has some sort of competition to see who can say the craziest lie on national tv and get away with it. 

"Donald Trump freed the slaves!". "Donald Trump dropped two nukes on Japan!". 

When Donald Trump was in the Alps
Fighting grizzly bears
He used his magical fire breath
And saved the maiden's fair

[Pancho 44,936]

 

 

[mdmost 43,015]

Says the guy wanting people to boycott an American tire company that employs tons of people in the Rust Belt. 

[Beau Vine 54,352]

 

[Biff Tannen 45,701]

7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

 

But he has no idea what Qanon is.  

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[Biff Tannen 45,701]

7 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

ok, that's a wildly misleading title on that video

[4th&Five 41,575]

Make Toilets Great Again!

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by 4th&Five

[JimmyJames 12,271]

12 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

 

Every accusation is a confession. 

[4th&Five 41,575]

 

[PsychMike 1,552]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

 Brisket is rubbing himself with peanut butter and about to fly into his back yard to play in the bird bath again. 

Just so we are clear, peanut butter-rubbed brisket, specifically Butterfinger-rubbed, is a thing and it's delicious!

[JimmyJames 12,271]

That world leader must have been a big burly guy with tears in his eyes. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

5 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

People wake up when you talk about what is real in the world they live in. This is not a time of earnest youngsters out nudging the oldsters to recall their idealism. The youngsters are Greta Thunberg. Talk to them like they're Greta Thunberg. We do not face a happy war. We have a world spinning out of control run by people looking to turn a buck on the calamity.

Obama's face last night said as much as his words. How can I make you see this? It's big and obvious. It's becoming a juggernaut. You can't just let this slip away without a fight.

Well I should think so. But I also think you have to mix it up a little or we start actually jumping off the ledge instead of simply looking over the side. It's why I admired the bit in Warren's speech when she (sorry Aunt Bea, I'm going to throw you under the bus) elaborated upon those that don't have home help with child or elder care--why THESE things are critical infrastructure for Americans, along with education and living wages and health care. Because the one word that brackets that sentence is care. We need care: care for ourselves, care for each other, and care for the world around us. The young people get that and we older folks need to help them get that realized. That's what I'm here for, that's why I left the GOP. I don't want their hate-filled fearful selfish world. I am working on rowing the boat so we can get there. If it means I need to row for awhile so you can take a break, I'll do it. But we can't stop rowing. We have to keep fighting.

 

 

 

Also, I read @Pasken's post about the RNC and I am so stoked: Jared is supposedly planning some of the events. Wow! Jared, International Man of....Mystery....Medical Diagnostic Testing and Equipment Sourcing...Middle Eastern policy...American Innovation...Campaign Finance...Grand Fuck-Ups. There, found one. Well, there's always a chance to get it right. What has he got to lose?

[Chooky 13,317]

8 minutes ago, PsychMike said:

Just so we are clear, peanut butter-rubbed brisket, specifically Butterfinger-rubbed, is a thing and it's delicious!

Reported

[Jive Turkey 12,640]

 

[27-25 2,047]

23 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

So he dings Biden for "abandoning" Scranton, PA as a child when his parents moved him elsewhere.  

But of course totally OK for Trump to "abandon" New York as a grown adult for Florida.

Rules for thee, but not for me.  Example #quadrillion.

[Gooby 640]

10 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

That world leader must have been a big burly guy with tears in his eyes. 

Straight from central casting

[Chooky 13,317]

"And I flushed once and nothing. 3 then 4 flushes and it still needs more flushing and I'm saying this is unbelievable."

"Sir, that's a Hans Wegner swivel chair. Oh God! It's all over you! It's all over everything!"

[henrygandorf 29,194]

40 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

if you're not paying attention, and why the hell would you be, the fox news "narrative" all week is about the out of control democrat cities and how the dems are working very hard to distract and ignore away from this obvious issue.

this is apparently the big secret they don't want to discuss at the convention, they're hoping nobody notices all the chaos in the dem-run cities.  to say nothing of the fact that most big cities are dem-run cities.

again, this is all going on in donald trump's america.

[henrygandorf 29,194]

11 minutes ago, Chooky said:

"And I flushed once and nothing. 3 then 4 flushes and it still needs more flushing and I'm saying this is unbelievable."

"Sir, that's a Hans Wegner swivel chair. Oh God! It's all over you! It's all over everything!"

they better not get george brett to speak at the rnc next week i swear to god.

[elguapo 4,586]

He's not a big fan of sharks

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

they better not get george brett to speak at the rnc next week i swear to god.

George Brett like KC Royals George Brett? He's a Trumper?

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

5 minutes ago, elguapo said:

He's not a big fan of sharks

 

The pivot from sharks and seals to Israel was that in realtime or edited? Because if that was in realtime he's never going to make the narrator cut for BBC's Planet Earth.

[Brisketexan 105,205]

7 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

if you're not paying attention, and why the hell would you be, the fox news "narrative" all week is about the out of control democrat cities and how the dems are working very hard to distract and ignore away from this obvious issue.

this is apparently the big secret they don't want to discuss at the convention, they're hoping nobody notices all the chaos in the dem-run cities.  to say nothing of the fact that most big cities are dem-run cities.

again, this is all going on in donald trump's america.

You know what's interesting about some of those cities?

They're in Republican-run states.  Interesting that Republican leadership claim credit for everything that goes well (see Abbott's "Texas Miracle," which was primarily "sit back and watch as oil is between $60-$100 a bbl"), but take zero responsibility for shit that goes wrong (see, e.g.....the entire fucking state of Kansas).

Fuck 'em.  Fuck 'em all straight to hell.

[henrygandorf 29,194]

5 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

George Brett like KC Royals George Brett? He's a Trumper?

not that i know of, but he has plenty of toilet-related stories.

[SameSame 1,705]

Never misses an opportunity to be a fucking moron.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

11 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

not that i know of, but he has plenty of toilet-related stories.

I did not know that and I think I will keep it that way. Thanks for the info.

[Beau Vine 54,352]

Never misses an opportunity to be a fucking moron.

Its what comes natural.