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Let me be candid and honest here my man. I cannot be sympathetic to your comments because this is how adult life has always been. From the moment I stepped out of my home and headed off to college I h

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it won't matter if his taxes ever come out.  it won't matter if his taxes don't ever come out.  you wanna know why?  because we already know what's in them. since early 2017 when people starting

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While I would definitely fuck the shit out of that dickhead Jacob Wohl, you'd have to make a pretty fucking big offer to get me to even consider fucking this moron.  Ugh, he's vile.

OK, you get Jacob Wohl, and Eric Trump, and we keep Napolitano, and give you the next pick.  

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56 minutes ago, Nivek said:

OK, you get Jacob Wohl, and Eric Trump, and we keep Napolitano, and give you the next pick.  

Jesus.  I need to think hard about who that next pick is.  I can't think of a single person in the political class that I'd even want to add even from a looks perspective when I'm surveying the R side.  Maybe Bruce Willis 30 years ago, but even that would've been a meh.  I guess all the hot Republican voters keep their opinions to themselves.  Oh Scott Baio 30 years ago.  Yum.  There, calling my shot.

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Doesn’t he also get Roger Stone?

That guy's a drama queen, but I think his kink is watching his wife suck other guys' dicks and so forth.  I don't think he's actually out sucking other guys' dicks.

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Am I the only one that doesn't find her funny at all?

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

lol wut.  Every intelligence agency has agreed that the Russians absolutely DID interfere on dotard's behalf.  What are they smoking?


Yeah, but Trump asked Putin if it was true...”President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be,"

then bowed like a bitch  

 

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Zen I learn about camra ungles and trick fitography Ned Nederlander! 

Seriously though...how the fuck do you make that tall 20 pound shitshow in a 10 pound bag look that much smaller Vladimir Putin?  That's a fucking Pulitzer War Crime photographer, whomever that was! 

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I'm trying to do the math on how you become a legitimate billionaire buying/selling inverted yield Trump Bonds.  And dammit sir, we just can't make the math work.

Perhaps if we were more racist, played more golf, and were just more douchey in general...

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https://gizmodo.com/you-know-who-else-didnt-pay-his-income-taxes-1845199738

 

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Every presidential nominee of a major political party since Jimmy Carter has released their tax returns before taking office, a precedent that started because Richard Nixon was a crook, something he rather famously disputed. But it only became the norm for presidents to release their income tax returns after Nixon resigned and many Americans wondered later why Nixon was never audited by the IRS. Trump has never released his tax returns.

 

 

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Nixon paid $792 in federal income tax in 1970, just a tad more than Trump paid in 2016, but there’s an important distinction that makes Trump even worse than Nixon. These numbers are not adjusted for inflation. Adjusted for inflation, Nixon’s $792 in 1970 is equivalent to $5,305 today. Even with that context, it was considered a huge scandal that Nixon was paying so little on $262,942 of his reported income that year.

 

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But let’s take another right-wing historical figure and see what he personally thought of taxes. Say, Adolf Hitler, for example. According to the scholarship in this area, Hitler was a tax delinquent in the 1920s and early 1930s, making most of his money from the publication of his book Mein Kampf and failing to pay much in taxes. The first volume of the book was published in 1925, and the second volume came out in December 1926, but it took a few years to truly become a hit. By 1930, the book was such a success that Hitler’s income had tripled from the previous year and rose steadily after that.

 

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According to surviving documents, Hitler constantly complained about Germany’s Ministry of Finance, the equivalent to America’s IRS, and didn’t pay substantial sums he owed for his profits on Mein Kampf. Hitler made partial payments until 1934, but after he became chancellor of Germany in 1933, his tax situation as a dictator was obviously going to change. 

By 1934, Hitler unilaterally stopped paying taxes altogether, though he told the German people he was donating his salary as chancellor to the families of pro-Nazi police officers who had been killed during riots against anti-fascist forces. But donating his salary created an accounting problem for the Ministry of Finance because technically Hitler still owed a lot of money, not just in back-payments, but on private income he was receiving from Mein Kampf while he was the leader of Germany.

 

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From the 1955 paper “Adolf Hitler: Taxpayer,” by Oron James Hale in the American Historical Review:

The first problem that arose in connection with the Chancellor’s tax affairs concerned Hitler’s state salary. Shortly after his appointment it was announced in the press that Hitler would donate his salary as Chancellor to a fund for assistance to dependents of members of the SA, SS, and police who had been killed in political riots of the preceding years. At the end of March the Finance Office Munich-East, where Hitler continued to make his returns, took cognizance of the report and the tax problem raised by this well-publicized gesture.

The answer was pretty straightforward. Even though the unpaid taxes would be kept on the books, the finance ministry simply wouldn’t ask Hitler for payment. Ludwog Mirre, president of the State Finance Office in Munich, wrote a letter to a colleague saying as much. And, with that, there was no need to pass any legislation to make Hitler tax-exempt. It was all done with a new “interpretation” of the German constitution.

Hale’s 1955 paper on Hitler (the Fuhrer, as referenced below) quotes a memo from the tax office, written in 1935, about the new “constitutional interpretation”:

On the occasion of a recent conversation with President Mirre, I urged him to see that the Fuhrer was informed of the planned tax exemption, since he certainly would not be indifferent to what happened to his tax affairs. President Mirre promised to speak to Herr Reinhardt about it. On February 25, 1935, President Mirre informed me by telephone that State Secretary Reinhardt had reported to the Fuhrer on the legal and constitutional interpretation of his tax exemption in his position as Chief of State, and that the Fuhrer was in agreement with the views of Herrn Mirre and Reinhardt. The order to declare the Fuhrer tax exempt was therefore final. There upon I with drew all the Fuhrer’s records, including the tax cards, from official circulation and placed them under lock and key.

Even though he wasn’t paying taxes anymore, Hitler still complained about the complexity of his own Finance Ministry during World War II. On the night of January 24, 1942, Hitler whined to Himmler about taxes, according to the book Hitler’s Table Talk, 1941-1944. The book, which is based on notes taken during private conversations between Hitler and his associates, quotes Hitler that night:

As regards direct taxes, the simplest is to take as a basis the amount paid the previous year. The tax-payer is told: “You’ll pay the same sum as last year. If this year your earnings are lower, you’ll report that fact. If they’re higher, you’ll immediately pay a proportionate supplement. If you forget to announce the increase in your income, you’ll be severely punished.”

If I explain this system to the Ministry of Finance or to Reinhardt, the reply will be, after an instant’s reflection: “My Fuehrer, you’re right.” But within six months they’ll certainly have forgotten everything! 

Thanks to this method, one might reduce the bureaucracy to a third of its present importance. The snag is that a tax which is easy to collect doesn’t suit these gentlemen of the administration. ‘What would be the use of having been to a University? Where would one find jobs for the jurists? There’d be no more work for them, for everything could be done by means of an extremely simple piece of apparatus, and the Chinese puzzle of declaring one’s taxes would be done away with. 

Apparently Hitler believed the only reason taxes were so complicated was because accountants had to justify their salaries.

To be clear, and it goes without saying, but Adolf Hitler was much more evil than Trump. Hitler engaged in the systematic murder of 10 million people during the Holocaust, including 6 million Jews; Trump has only killed roughly 121,000 people through gross negligence, another 3,000 through incompetence, and at least seven children through callous indifference. 

Trump has perhaps killed large numbers of civilians through drone strikes and other military incursions, but the Trump regime abolished transparency requirements put in place during the Obama era, so we actually don’t know much about the exact death toll there.

Hitler was clearly and unequivocally the more evil person. But it’s curious how authoritarian-minded leaders, wherever they land on the sliding scale from wannabe fascists like Nixon and Trump to the historical extremes of fascism like Hitler, always hate taxes. Income taxes are a necessary part of life and have a long history in the U.S., no matter how much modern-day Republicans complain. America’s first income tax was a flat 3% tax in 1861 imposed by President Abraham Lincoln to help pay for the Civil War. Congress passed new tax legislation on July 1, 1862, to turn that flat tax into a progressive tax, where people who made more money paid a higher percentage of their income above a specific figure.

As University of Connecticut historian Brad Simpson pointed out on Twitter yesterday, Lincoln even paid more in income taxes back in 1864, during the Civil War, than Trump paid in 2016 and 2017. Lincoln paid $1,981.67 in taxes on a salary of $25,000. And much like our Nixon example, that’s before inflation. It gets tougher to calculate inflation from the 19th century, but it might conservatively be called over $35,000 in today’s money.

No one likes paying taxes. But they’re something modern societies impose to pay for things that contribute to the common good. Whether it’s roads, or the military, or food stamps, the government needs to provide basic services for people so that we all benefit. And while some Republicans don’t see the point of food stamps or universal health care or other things that leftists want to see in the federal budget, these are also regarded as the common good in other wealthy nations. 

If we’ve learned anything in 2020 during mass civil unrest, double-digit unemployment, and a pandemic, it’s that making sure your neighbor is doing okay contributes to the common good. Because if your barista has covid-19 and is afraid to get tested because it might bankrupt them, everyone in that coffee shop has a problem. If you don’t have empathy for your neighbor and their ability to eat, to have clothes on their back and a roof over their head, then at least understand their deprivation will come back to impact you one day. I promise. And that’s why we pay our taxes. Or, at least some of us do, anyway.

 

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That debate was a perfect microcosm of the Trump era. Be loud, hurl insults at the other side, have no actual plans other than fear and hatred. Biden was the rest of just wanting this shit to be over and still not understanding how the fuck we got here.  

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That debate was a perfect microcosm of the Trump era. Be loud, hurl insults at the other side, have no actual plans other than fear and hatred. Biden was the rest of just wanting this shit to be over and still not understanding how the fuck we got here.  

John Stewart has called it a catastrophuck.

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One of those rednecks is going to shoot up a polling location. God help us if it's more than 1 on Election Day.

It will be. There are going to be multiple polling locations that are going to be subjected to armed MAGAts going in and intimidating and attacking voters. I mean, the president just fucking ASKED THEM TO.
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12 minutes ago, Pasken said:

One of those rednecks is going to shoot up a polling location. God help us if it's more than 1 on Election Day.

Yep. The president just asked people to commit voter intimidation. 
 

the problem is but the dictator being a dictator it is the people who enable him are the problem. The Fox News. The Rick Santorum. Anyone on this website who excuses this shit. There is a line of democracy and anyone who supports Trump does not support democracy 

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41 minutes ago, Pasken said:

One of those rednecks is going to shoot up a polling location. God help us if it's more than 1 on Election Day.

 

i vote in a heavy D precinct, I'm concerned if I have to stand outside during early voting 

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19 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Not a single redeeming quality. Every trait you would desire from your child, he expresses the opposite trait. 

This.  I know rationally the worst thing trump did tonight was encourage white supremacists aka his supporters to interfere in the election.  But the moment I was angriest was when Biden mentioned his dead son, and trump said he didn't know Beau and then mocked Biden's surviving son for struggling with drug addiction.  Only a monstrous person does that.  Although I'm more disgusted by the people I know who still support that monster devoid of even the slightest bit of decency.

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Maybe Trumps support will collapse down to mid-30s.  That’ll depress the enthusiasm the irregulars have to show up and shoot up polling locations.  

It won’t. He still has a very good chance of occupying the White House in January - enough votes in swing states, interference and intimidation, disenfranchisement, and a stacked SCOTUS. It adds up.
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6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Biden has consistently condemned violence and looting, and did again last night. Dotard's insistence that he say the magic words is pretty bizarre. 

He's got nothing else. Biden has absolutely in the past and during last night's debate stated he supports law enforcement. He stated he doesn't want to defund the police but give them more money. 

Trump is making things up per usual. 

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1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

The inevitable Trump supporters who get “turned away from the polls” because they will be electioneering with Trump gear on is going to be beautiful. The social media crying will be next level.

Can you go into more detail about this? Because I don't see this happening at all, and if there's a mechanism at play you expect to take place about which I'm ignorant (very likely) I'd love to know more. 

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