Donald Trump 2020

[Horn Dogg 3897]

16 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Play nice. Wait till they're sick and dying, then whisper when no one is around that you're going to donate a huge chunk of their inheritance to BLM. 

I’m thinking more just keep your mouth shut, then go buy a Ferrari after they are gone.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

4 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

"etc" is the great literary weapon of those of limited capacity.  it's very "and other things of that nature."

[Nope 3114]

Starting around 1:30, I don’t know if I’ve ever heard racism this brash from a public official 

 

[C-Man 27227]

My in-laws are lifelong Republicans, mainly because they're rich as fuck. They cannot stand the idea that one penny of their tax dollars might go toward helping someone else out. If you press them, they'll pretty much admit that they don't give a fuck about culture war issues. They're racists, but more in a "those kind of people tend to be lazy" type way than an overt "we must protect White heritage!!" way. They're what used to be called Country Club Republicans. For the life of me, I can't figure out what they stand to gain from a Donald Trump presidency.
Their only sources of information about the world are Fox News and stuff that they see in emails from their friends and on Facebook. Therefore, DT can do no wrong in their minds. Any mainstream information source like the NYT or network news is laughably biased and not worthy of the slightest attention.
It's sad to watch because my wife has trouble even talking with them right now. For example, last Sunday she was talking to them on the phone and they asked what we were up to. Oh, not much, just watching the Cowboys game. "WELL WE DON'T WATCH THE NFL ANYMORE!". Keep in mind that these are people that loved the Cowboys and had season tickets for years. You can't even have a simple, innocuous conversation with them without it turning into an airing of perceived grievances. It's incredibly tiresome.

My former in-laws and my current in-laws are kind of the same. Great people for the most part but just like you describe, poisoned by Fox News and flat-our-fake FB shares and emails among the septuagenarian sect. My parents were Trump backers at one point but I’m curious to talk to my dad to see if he’s still supporting him after the last 6-7 months. We’ve had some spirited conversations over the last couple years. He thinks I’m too emotional when it comes to Trump.

[SydneyCarton 48106]

10 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

I’m thinking more just keep your mouth shut, then go buy a Ferrari after they are gone.

My plan in no way precludes you from buying a Ferrari. And it doesn't force you to donate any money to BLM. 

[Red Five 40858]

"30% of the people in suburbs are minorities. So we're ruining the American dream for everybody." -the president of the united states (sort of). 

[Brisketexan 105139]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"30% of the people in suburbs are minorities. So we're ruining the American dream for everybody." -the president of the united states (sort of). 

I am rarely going to be the person to cut Trump any slack, but......understanding that he not be good at the English, MY read of what he was saying is that 1) Biden's plan will ruin the suburbs, and 2) that doesn't just hurt white folks, it hurts EVERYONE, including minorities (who are 30% of the population of the burbs).

IT could also be interpreted the other way, because, again....he no talk good.  But I really think my interpretation is what he was trying to communicate.  Of course, the fact that he has absolutely piss away his credibility on any matter of race does him no favors.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

"I won the debate big!" - Idiot-in-Chief

[Red Five 40858]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I am rarely going to be the person to cut Trump any slack, but......understanding that he not be good at the English, MY read of what he was saying is that 1) Biden's plan will ruin the suburbs, and 2) that doesn't just hurt white folks, it hurts EVERYONE, including minorities (who are 30% of the population of the burbs).

IT could also be interpreted the other way, because, again....he no talk good.  But I really think my interpretation is what he was trying to communicate.  Of course, the fact that he has absolutely piss away his credibility on any matter of race does him no favors.

I think that's being very generous to an obvious racist. 

[purplepride95 6890]

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

I am rarely going to be the person to cut Trump any slack, but......understanding that he not be good at the English, MY read of what he was saying is that 1) Biden's plan will ruin the suburbs, and 2) that doesn't just hurt white folks, it hurts EVERYONE, including minorities (who are 30% of the population of the burbs).

IT could also be interpreted the other way, because, again....he no talk good.  But I really think my interpretation is what he was trying to communicate.  Of course, the fact that he has absolutely piss away his credibility on any matter of race does him no favors.

Yeah, but why can't at least one of those shithead hotdish genetically smelt eating nordic types at his rally ever consider that his Opportunity Zones consisted of his uber 1% moving into state's poor communities and kicking out the people to build yacht and golf clubs? Stupid leopard eating people's faces party types deserve what they get.

[Dbeasy 15051]

My in-laws are lifelong Republicans, mainly because they're rich as fuck. They cannot stand the idea that one penny of their tax dollars might go toward helping someone else out. If you press them, they'll pretty much admit that they don't give a fuck about culture war issues. They're racists, but more in a "those kind of people tend to be lazy" type way than an overt "we must protect White heritage!!" way. They're what used to be called Country Club Republicans. For the life of me, I can't figure out what they stand to gain from a Donald Trump presidency.
Their only sources of information about the world are Fox News and stuff that they see in emails from their friends and on Facebook. Therefore, DT can do no wrong in their minds. Any mainstream information source like the NYT or network news is laughably biased and not worthy of the slightest attention.
It's sad to watch because my wife has trouble even talking with them right now. For example, last Sunday she was talking to them on the phone and they asked what we were up to. Oh, not much, just watching the Cowboys game. "WELL WE DON'T WATCH THE NFL ANYMORE!". Keep in mind that these are people that loved the Cowboys and had season tickets for years. You can't even have a simple, innocuous conversation with them without it turning into an airing of perceived grievances. It's incredibly tiresome.

There are millions of seniors just like them. People who have been brainwashed worse than a cult member. It’s incredibly frustrating. I have family and neighbors that have all been brainwashed in just the same way.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20400]

Pope says thanks but no thanks to Pompeo:
 

BBC says Fuck Right OFF

Edited October 1, 2020 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[yoladu 4094]

57 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

*chef's kiss*

 

fucking moron.

[Degenerate Gardner 4085]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don't know why Trump thinks that an extended period to verify the votes somehow allows him to stay in office. I don't recall the Constitution stating that the tie goes to the runner (incumbent.)

He's just using the same default strategy employed when paying contractors, responding to subpoenas, releasing taxes, and all things he seeks to avoid...delay, delay, delay, until your hand is forced. 

Edited October 1, 2020 by Degenerate Gardner

[Hagbard Celine 10864]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

This article details it a bit.

thanks nm - we're not getting a result in 33 days

[yoladu 4094]

16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I am rarely going to be the person to cut Trump any slack, but......understanding that he not be good at the English, MY read of what he was saying is that 1) Biden's plan will ruin the suburbs, and 2) that doesn't just hurt white folks, it hurts EVERYONE, including minorities (who are 30% of the population of the burbs).

IT could also be interpreted the other way, because, again....he no talk good.  But I really think my interpretation is what he was trying to communicate.  Of course, the fact that he has absolutely piss away his credibility on any matter of race does him no favors.

I hadn't initially looked at it that way, but you make a good argument and i could live with it's plausibility.

Reminds me when the Right cut Obama no slack on the " you didn't build that" quote, which was easily twisted.

[Brisketexan 105139]

Just now, yoladu said:

I hadn't initially looked at it that way, but you make a good argument and i could live with it's plausibility.

Reminds me when the Right cut Obama no slack on the " you didn't build that" quote, which was easily twisted.

Yeah.  Humans are sloppy with words sometimes.  Few are sloppier than DOTUS.  I really do think that's what he meant, because he was trying (poorly) to DEFEND himself from charges of racism at the time.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

Yeah it's plausible, especially considering how often Donald expresses concern for minorities and people of low socioeconomic standing. He's definitely made it a point to embrace both of those groups in his plan to save the suburbs. 

[Guest Lobo]

47 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

"etc" is the great literary weapon of those of limited capacity.  it's very "and other things of that nature."

It's been bugging me who he reminds me of when he talks/tweets about polling.   And your post finally made me remember.  

Trump is the Wes Mantooth president from Anchorman.  I mean, when discrediting rally TV ratings, he literally says Vince Vaugh's lines verbatim...

Fox Anchor:  "Mr. President, the overnight ratings for your most recent political rally and/or press conference were surprisingly low."

President Mantooth:  "You know those ratings are flawed...They're biased!  They don't take into account households with more than 2 TV's.  And other things of that nature!  Mary Anne Trump is a Saint, you hear me?  She was a Saint!"  

Edited October 1, 2020 by Lobo

[JimmyJames 12271]

42 minutes ago, Nope said:

Starting around 1:30, I don’t know if I’ve ever heard racism this brash from a public official 

 

Yeah saying the minorities are ruining the suburbs is a tad racist. They’re up to 30 percent now! 

But hey that’s our president! He’s a racist piece of shit just like us! 

[Hagbard Celine 10864]

1 hour ago, tokamak said:

My in-laws are lifelong Republicans, mainly because they're rich as fuck. They cannot stand the idea that one penny of their tax dollars might go toward helping someone else out. If you press them, they'll pretty much admit that they don't give a fuck about culture war issues. They're racists, but more in a "those kind of people tend to be lazy" type way than an overt "we must protect White heritage!!" way. They're what used to be called Country Club Republicans. For the life of me, I can't figure out what they stand to gain from a Donald Trump presidency.

Their only sources of information about the world are Fox News and stuff that they see in emails from their friends and on Facebook. Therefore, DT can do no wrong in their minds. Any mainstream information source like the NYT or network news is laughably biased and not worthy of the slightest attention.

It's sad to watch because my wife has trouble even talking with them right now. For example, last Sunday she was talking to them on the phone and they asked what we were up to. Oh, not much, just watching the Cowboys game. "WELL WE DON'T WATCH THE NFL ANYMORE!". Keep in mind that these are people that loved the Cowboys and had season tickets for years. You can't even have a simple, innocuous conversation with them without it turning into an airing of perceived grievances. It's incredibly tiresome.

Ditto, almost word for word.  My situation, add my brother.  And they really, truly, zealously, vehemently believe they are anointed by God with the truth.  They were already like this by the time of Bush 41.  But it was 9/11 + Fox which crystallized then hardened their minds like rocks on Venus.

[Brisketexan 105139]

6 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Yeah it's plausible, especially considering how often Donald expresses concern for minorities and people of low socioeconomic standing. He's definitely made it a point to embrace both of those groups in his plan to save the suburbs. 

Again, I loathe everything about the man.  But he's reeling from charges of racism (which are accurate), so he's trying to defend himself, just like he says "nobody has done more for black people than me."  He's arguing that he's protecting the suburbs, and that's NOT a racist dog whistle, because the burbs include minorities.  He's TERRIBLE at explaining concepts, and he's a simpleton, so he gets gummed up.  But I genuinely think that's what he meant to convey.  The fact that he's that shitty at communicating an idea with more than a single dimension is ANOTHER reason he's not qualified for the office, but there you have it.

[Nope 3114]

Someone should ask him how he feels about the number of low income whites living in the suburbs

[Hagbard Celine 10864]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Play nice. Wait till they're sick and dying, then whisper when no one is around that you're going to donate a huge chunk of their inheritance to BLM. 

Why are you giving my money to the Bureau of Land Management?

[Mo Horn 8841]

 This could have gone in multiple threads. Clearly journalists who cover this administration every day are tired of the bullshit. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Again, I loathe everything about the man.  But he's reeling from charges of racism (which are accurate), so he's trying to defend himself, just like he says "nobody has done more for black people than me."  He's arguing that he's protecting the suburbs, and that's NOT a racist dog whistle, because the burbs include minorities.  He's TERRIBLE at explaining concepts, and he's a simpleton, so he gets gummed up.  But I genuinely think that's what he meant to convey.  The fact that he's that shitty at communicating an idea with more than a single dimension is ANOTHER reason he's not qualified for the office, but there you have it.

While you could possibly be right I think you’re being a little too generous about a man who told a white supremacy group to “stand by.”

[Brisketexan 105139]

1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

While you could possibly be right I think you’re being a little too generous about a man who told a white supremacy group to “stand by.”

I know, I know.  But don't think of it as how he actually feels.  Think about it as him using a stat to defend himself from a valid charge of racism -- "I'm PROTECTING minorities, I love them -- they're 30% of the burbs!"  It was a defensive thing, that he is shitty at because 1) he doesn't actually care about them, and 2) he no good at talking.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Again, I loathe everything about the man.  But he's reeling from charges of racism (which are accurate), so he's trying to defend himself, just like he says "nobody has done more for black people than me."  He's arguing that he's protecting the suburbs, and that's NOT a racist dog whistle, because the burbs include minorities.  He's TERRIBLE at explaining concepts, and he's a simpleton, so he gets gummed up.  But I genuinely think that's what he meant to convey.  The fact that he's that shitty at communicating an idea with more than a single dimension is ANOTHER reason he's not qualified for the office, but there you have it.

The crazy thing is I actually think you're right, but he's been hammering how the suburbs are under siege by low income housing, so it's a little bizarre to suddenly embrace that segment of society. So he likes the low income people in the suburbs, just not the apartment buildings....insert jlaw gif

I agree he's terrible at explaining shit and this is an example, but fuck him, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. He needs to clarify the statement like the librul media would have made Biden do before the fucking sun even rose. 

[SaucyJack 3488]

1 hour ago, tokamak said:

My in-laws are lifelong Republicans, mainly because they're rich as fuck. They cannot stand the idea that one penny of their tax dollars might go toward helping someone else out. If you press them, they'll pretty much admit that they don't give a fuck about culture war issues. They're racists, but more in a "those kind of people tend to be lazy" type way than an overt "we must protect White heritage!!" way. They're what used to be called Country Club Republicans. For the life of me, I can't figure out what they stand to gain from a Donald Trump presidency.

Their only sources of information about the world are Fox News and stuff that they see in emails from their friends and on Facebook. Therefore, DT can do no wrong in their minds. Any mainstream information source like the NYT or network news is laughably biased and not worthy of the slightest attention.

It's sad to watch because my wife has trouble even talking with them right now. For example, last Sunday she was talking to them on the phone and they asked what we were up to. Oh, not much, just watching the Cowboys game. "WELL WE DON'T WATCH THE NFL ANYMORE!". Keep in mind that these are people that loved the Cowboys and had season tickets for years. You can't even have a simple, innocuous conversation with them without it turning into an airing of perceived grievances. It's incredibly tiresome.

Serious question: what net worth is "rich as fuck"?

[Dahobbs 17534]

47 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I am rarely going to be the person to cut Trump any slack, but......understanding that he not be good at the English, MY read of what he was saying is that 1) Biden's plan will ruin the suburbs, and 2) that doesn't just hurt white folks, it hurts EVERYONE, including minorities (who are 30% of the population of the burbs).

IT could also be interpreted the other way, because, again....he no talk good.  But I really think my interpretation is what he was trying to communicate.  Of course, the fact that he has absolutely piss away his credibility on any matter of race does him no favors.

He said "I ended a regulation [bringing public housing, low income housing] into the suburbs. Let's just get this straight, 30 percent of the people are low income people, 30% of the people are minorities. So we are ruining this American dream for everybody. So he has this plan, the worst thing you've ever seen, having to do with zoning, they zone you out, they build low income housing next to your house"

Low income people = minorities = low income housing = bad for the suburbs. I agree it is muddled,  but ultimately what he wants to do is kick that 30% out. 

[Texaspython 231]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

"30% of the people in suburbs are minorities. So we're ruining the American dream for everybody." -the president of the united states (sort of). 

He’s just so stupid. Was he was trying to say is “30% of the suburbs are minority, so it’s not racist to say you don’t want more public housing because minorities are already there”?

[Brisketexan 105139]

3 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

He’s just so stupid. Was he was trying to say is “30% of the suburbs are minority, so it’s not racist to say you don’t want more public housing because minorities are already there”?

I think that's what he was trying to say.  He's just a fucking moron.

[BradInATX 9208]

I actually agree with Brisket, I think Trump was trying to say that minorities are 30% of the suburbs. But that doesn't really absolve him because he made it plainly obvious that he considers "low income" and "minority" to be synonyms in his head.

"30% of the suburbs is low income. 30% of the suburbs are minorities"

Doesn't get much more clear-cut than that. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6559]

Is it even possible that Trump doesn’t really care about the suburbs, the white people there, the minorities in the suburbs or how safe their neighborhoods will or wont be?  How much their property value will go up or down?   All he wants is for those people (suburbanites) to vote for him so he will say anything to get that to happen.  The only thing he knows how to do is scare people into voting for him so the poor apartment complexes are coming to your suburb.  BLM is coming to your suburb.  MS-13 is coming to your suburb.  They are going to take your Olive Garden and Chili’s away.  Vote for me and I will not let any of that happen.

[Brisketexan 105139]

1 minute ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Is it even possible that Trump doesn’t really care about the suburbs, the white people there, the minorities in the suburbs or how safe their neighborhoods will or wont be?  How much their property value will go up or down?   All he wants is for those people (suburbanites) to vote for him so he will say anything to get that to happen.  The only thing he knows how to do is scare people into voting for him so the poor apartment complexes are coming to your suburb.  BLM is coming to your suburb.  MS-13 is coming to your suburb.  They are going to take your Olive Garden and Chili’s away.  Vote for me and I will not let any of that happen.

Well, duh.

[jimmyjazz 45952]

28 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I know, I know.  But don't think of it as how he actually feels.  Think about it as him using a stat to defend himself from a valid charge of racism -- "I'm PROTECTING minorities, I love them -- they're 30% of the burbs!"  It was a defensive thing, that he is shitty at because 1) he doesn't actually care about them, and 2) he no good at talking.

That doesn't pass the smell test.  He pointed out the demographics are 30% low income and 30% minorities.  He is clearly saying low income Americans are destroying the suburbs, so there is absolutely no way he's not painting minorities with the same negative brush.  One statement followed the other, with the exact same language.

[Blotto 23509]

Its not worth my time to try and parse through Trump's brain addled verbal diarrhea because he is too fucking stupid to communicate articulately. His body of work is damn near 4 years old now, and it is rife with racist dog whistles and outright racist statements. I honestly don't give a fuck what he says anymore. Its why I abandoned the debate after 4 minutes.

Who the fuck knows what he means on any given day, because its likely a lie or will be excused away as a "joke" when his most outlandish statements cause near universal disgust. He fails at the most basic fundamental role of president which is to unite and lead the country. Fuck him and fuck anybody that supports that twat. Just vote. 

Edited October 1, 2020 by Blotto

[wildcat09 29354]

44 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

The crazy thing is I actually think you're right, but he's been hammering how the suburbs are under siege by low income housing, so it's a little bizarre to suddenly embrace that segment of society. So he likes the low income people in the suburbs, just not the apartment buildings....insert jlaw gif

I agree he's terrible at explaining shit and this is an example, but fuck him, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. He needs to clarify the statement like the librul media would have made Biden do before the fucking sun even rose. 

This. We should assume racist intent until he makes it extremely clear that what he meant to say is what Brisket is too generously inferring.

[StassneyHorn 6575]

When someone brings up the kneeling shit in the NFL just talk about Nate Boyer asking Kap to take a knee instead of sitting down. Tell them Nate was a Green Beret and a Longhorn if they’re Longhorn fans

[Neonmoon 38129]

15 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

Here's what he said. 

Quote

I ended a regulation. Nobody would have done. This brings public housing, low income housing into the suburbs. And By the way, just so we can get this straight. 30% of the people in the suburbs are low income people. 30% of the people in the suburbs are minorities. And so, we’re ruining this American dream for everybody. But he’s got a plan, it’s the worst thing you’ve ever seen. Having to do with zoning. They zone you out. They build low incoming housing next to your house. It’s crazy. Then I hear I’m not doing well in the suburbs. I’m not doing well in the suburbs? Are you people crazy? Are you crazy?

Here's what I thought he wanted  to say but didn't because he's a fucking idiot that is unfit for office because he can't speak English properly. 

Quote

I ended a regulation that nobody else would have done ended. This regulation brought public housing, low incoming housing into the suburbs. And by the way, just so we can get this straight. 30% of the people in the suburbs are low income people. 30% of the people in the suburbs are minorities. And so, we're ruining this American dream for everybody, not just the white people. But Joe Biden's got a plan, it's the worst thing you've ever seen. It has to do with zoning. They zone you out of the suburbs. They build public low income housing next to your house. It's crazy. Then I hear I'm not doing well in the suburbs. I'm not doing well in the suburbs? Are you people crazy? Are you crazy?

italic = added

strikethrough = crossed out

[zzzz 39]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I am rarely going to be the person to cut Trump any slack, but......understanding that he not be good at the English, MY read of what he was saying is that 1) Biden's plan will ruin the suburbs, and 2) that doesn't just hurt white folks, it hurts EVERYONE, including minorities (who are 30% of the population of the burbs).

IT could also be interpreted the other way, because, again....he no talk good.  But I really think my interpretation is what he was trying to communicate.  Of course, the fact that he has absolutely piss away his credibility on any matter of race does him no favors.

Trump modified his initial "Biden is going to destroy the suburbs" attack because people pointed out his perception of the suburbs was dated. Because it was obviously a fear-based appeal based on race.* No different than him crying "A caravan is coming!" and rolling out troops to the border in 2018. Funny how before it was Biden and low-income housing that was going to destroy the suburbs it was roving gangs of Antifa that were coming to loot and burn them down. 

*Trump only modified his attack to acknowledge reailty because the intent of it was to generate more support in the suburbs.

Edited October 1, 2020 by zzzz

[4th&Five 41551]

[TwiceHorn 31470]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The fact that he's that shitty at communicating an idea with more than a single dimension is ANOTHER reason he's not qualified for the office, but there you have it.

Well put.

To use the Fitzgerald notion:  I don't think teh Donald is capable of holding two inconsistent thoughts in his head while still functioning, especially if those thoughts involve him.

[Dark Horse 2280]

Fucking Simple Jr

 

 

Edited October 1, 2020 by Dark Horse

[DigglerontheHoof 21199]

5 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

No shit.  What a coked up idiot.

[Horn Dogg 3897]

10 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

He’s digging pretty deep for a correlation there.  Give the kid another bump and send him on his way.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

24 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Oh sure. Obama yells “shoot” to Jordan 100 times a day throughout the 90s. My dad starts cheering and telling Kyle Rittenhouse to do it and suddenly the word is bad.

[tokamak 6430]

1 hour ago, SaucyJack said:

Serious question: what net worth is "rich as fuck"?

Mid seven figures in this case.

[Horn Dogg 3897]

Just now, tokamak said:

Mid seven figures in this case.

That’s below average on Surly according to most of the sideways (bullshit) bragging we see on here.