Donald Trump 2020

[Brandywine 1,312]

5 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

They may act, but I’d give odds of their success at 50/50 or less. These are not smart people. 

But they’re just smart enough to do the stupidest and most evil things. Plus, they have hatred in their hearts. 

[Anastasis 23,393]

24 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Except the way these social media companies operate is by pushing information to you that they know you are predisposed to like. They want the clicks. Also the "like" and "follow" features are powerful psychological tools. When people gets likes and follows it's like a hit of dopamine.

So you have algorithms pushing you social media you already agree with, and then likes, retweets, and all the other social media bullshit digs into people's brains. It easy to see why someone's world view (no matter how fucked up it is to others) makes sense to them because they live in social media vacuums where they observe and recieve constant validation. It makes perfect sense to them.

And the Zuckerberg's and Dorseys of the world feign concern as they chuckle and watch the billions roll in.

We are all just pawns at the wrong end of a machine learning algorithm.

Enjoy the ride guys. 

[washparkhorn 9,935]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

We are all just pawns at the wrong end of a machine learning algorithm.

To our AI overlords: We appreciate power. See Roko's Basilisk.

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

"There is no need for the 2nd amendment in 21st century America."

Agree. Is there some sarcasm I’m missing?

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4 hours ago, Red Five said:

It's just really hard for my brain to process the fact that he got 15 million MORE votes than he got in 2016. 

Yes. I'm kind of ashamed that I didn't grock to this as the numbers came in. It's a thought that has only found its home in my mind in the last week.

Trumpists claim intuition based on boat parades and Trump's rallies. That intuitive justification is laughable in the face of the notion that 12 million more Americans leapt to their feet to vote for the Dotard with death and humiliation all around.

[Neonmoon 38,127]

People keep bringing up the 25th Amendment. Why? Donald Trump could execute kids on the WH lawn and you wouldn’t get 2/3 of either house to vote for 25th. It’s filled with complete blowjobs like Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, Dan Crenshaw, Tommy Tuberville, Jim Jordan, Marjorie Greene. I mean in what fucking world do you think these blowjobs wouldn’t endorse an autocracy?

[Red Five 40,632]

I can't believe someone who was serving as our National Security Advisor three years ago is now saying "yeah the president should just declare martial law and install himself as dictator. What, why are you looking at me like that?". It's yet another This Can't Be Real Life moment. 

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He’s not wrong, but he seems to be blaming the virus for a lot of the problems. This was happening well before 2020 and I would say that we would be in a very similar place without Covid. Probably worse because I think Dotard wins re-election. 

Disagree. Impeachment, George Floyd’s televised murder by police, and COVID helped solidify his base and gave the most consistently unpopular President, who got dunked on in midterms, a fighting chance. Incumbents gained an advantage as ground games were stifled by COVID.

[Anastasis 23,393]

8 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Disagree. Impeachment, George Floyd’s televised murder by police, and COVID helped solidify his base and gave the most consistently unpopular President, who got dunked on in midterms, a fighting chance. Incumbents gained an advantage as ground games were stifled by COVID.

If he would have modeled mask wearing and not totally pissed down his leg repeatedly re covid posture he would have been  reelected easily. Such is apparently the balance of American democracy.  

[Pancho 44,454]

4 hours ago, Red Five said:

It's just really hard for my brain to process the fact that he got 15 million MORE votes than he got in 2016. 

I can see how he got more. 

- R’s had a ground game regardless of COVID

- That one fucked up looking young radical right wing republican bro (Charlie Kirk I think) had a massive GOTV campaign where they were registering new voters at a really, really rapid pace compared to D’s. This was a concern among D’s all over the country and got mentioned on this board multiple times.  There was concern (among pundits on places like CNN and MSNBC) that while the polls were showing Biden up by 7 or 8, what they aren’t accounting for is the random poor White people in random shitty east Texas or nawf Florida counties who never vote for anything but are always team radical Republican.  Is Kirk’s group (or other radical right wing groups) registering those people?  There wasn’t a lot of data there.

- D’s fucked up by not paying attention to Latinos in Texas and Florida (non-Cubans).

- And let’s face it—America is a dumb country overall.  Some of the buillshit about if Biden wins he will lockdown the entire country for 6 months and other shit like that stuck with some folks. 

- Finally, keeping up with my America on the whole is a dumb electorate, I would argue social media didn’t/doesn’t help.  I think the radical right is better at manipulation via social media and that draws in voters.  

[pyrohornIII 4,809]

4 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

 

As a (dare I say it?) social media mogul of sorts, I disagree.  Social media doesn't "cause" the the self-selection of information. That's on the consumer of the media, just as it always has been. 

It's a lot like television was when it came out.  Programs were developed for what people wanted to watch.    

[SaucyJack 3,487]

4 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

 

As a (dare I say it?) social media mogul of sorts, I disagree.  Social media doesn't "cause" the the self-selection of information. That's on the consumer of the media, just as it always has been. 

As I did, you may find this informative:

The Social Dilemma

https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

20 minutes ago, Pancho said:

- And let’s face it—America is a dumb country overall.

You could’ve just said this. 

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5 hours ago, Red Five said:

It's just really hard for my brain to process the fact that he got 15 million MORE votes than he got in 2016. 

Not for me.  Several of my relatives who were Trump supporters did not vote in 2016 for whatever reason, including the Q retweeting/reposting types.  I don't know if they thought Trump would lose or win or what, or if after he won, he appealed to them in some way that he wasn't before the election.

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39 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I can't believe someone who was serving as our National Security Advisor three years ago is now saying "yeah the president should just declare martial law and install himself as dictator. What, why are you looking at me like that?". It's yet another This Can't Be Real Life moment. 

I think Flynn's just playing Trump, as is Powell (then again she might be a True Believer).  Flynn knows that trying to get the military to take over wouldn't end well.

That's the thing about Flynn - if you step back and look at him as a grifter, things make a lot more sense.

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

We are all just pawns at the wrong end of a machine learning algorithm.

Enjoy the ride guys. 

[wildcat09 29,224]

8 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I think Flynn's just playing Trump, as is Powell (then again she might be a True Believer).  Flynn knows that trying to get the military to take over wouldn't end well.

That's the thing about Flynn - if you step back and look at him as a grifter, things make a lot more sense.

No, literally all accounts of Flynn before and after Obama fired support the he’s batshit fucking crazy theory. He might enjoy gritting too, but he’s absolutely batshit fucking crazy.

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6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

No, literally all accounts of Flynn before and after Obama fired support the he’s batshit fucking crazy theory. He might enjoy gritting too, but he’s absolutely batshit fucking crazy.

He might be crazy, but it feels like a lot of what he's doing is focused on moneymaking opportunities.

If he really believes the military would back Trump (putting aside that the military doesn't have the numbers), then he truly is batshit insane. 

Edited December 20, 2020 by atomheartbevo

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42 minutes ago, Pancho said:

- Finally, keeping up with my America on the whole is a dumb electorate, I would argue social media didn’t/doesn’t help.  I think the radical right is better at manipulation via social media and that draws in voters.  

Semantics a bit, but I don't think its the radical right being better at using social media, but rather the other way around. Social media creates, collects and feeds fears which the modern American conservative needs to function - see Russia, democrats, colored people, drugs, BLM, Hunter Biden, masks, socialism, and every other manufactured boogeymen they need to keep afloat.

being afraid of everything that isn't oneself is the natural state of humanity sadly. 

[Pancho 44,454]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

You could’ve just said this. 

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John Kelly: the vast majority of White House staffers are the ones responsible for keeping this presidency from careening completely off the tracks:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/john-kelly-defends-vast-majority-of-trumps-white-house-staff-says-they-kept-the-train-from-careening-off-the-tracks/?utm_source=mostpopular

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John Kelly: the vast majority of White House staffers are the ones responsible for keeping this presidency from careening completely off the tracks:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/john-kelly-defends-vast-majority-of-trumps-white-house-staff-says-they-kept-the-train-from-careening-off-the-tracks/?utm_source=mostpopular

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14 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

John Kelly: the vast majority of White House staffers are the ones responsible for keeping this presidency from careening completely off the tracks:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/john-kelly-defends-vast-majority-of-trumps-white-house-staff-says-they-kept-the-train-from-careening-off-the-tracks/?utm_source=mostpopular

I'm no doctor, but it seems pretty improbable that that many people simultaneously woke up from a 4 year coma and are only now realizing the obvious. I call bullshit.

[Anastasis 23,393]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Think of it.  Hoof and mouf disease.  A thing of the past. 

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

1 hour ago, staboner said:

see Russia, democrats, colored people, drugs, BLM, Hunter Biden, masks, socialism, and every other manufactured boogeymen they need to keep afloat.

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[DDD Dad 14,250]

So one of my former golfing buddies, who pitched for UT back in the day, posted this on FB.

THE AUDACITY OF THIS MAN TRUMP
By E. P. UNUM
December 13, 2020

I’m still trying to understand what 80 million voters disliked about President Trump so much that they decided to cast their votes for a man who served forty-seven years in government and has done absolutely nothing for the American people. And, I’m still flabbergasted that those same people would vote for a woman to serve as Vice President, a heartbeat away from the Presidency, with a rather checkered and not so moral past. I wondered why they despised and hated President Trump so much.

And so, I have many questions:

Did you dislike that Trump made cruelty to animals a felony?

Did you dislike he raised billions to stop the opioid crisis?

Perhaps you feel that he destroyed ISIS, killed terrorists, including the leader of ISIS and the Iranian General responsible for thousands of American deaths, all without going to war?

Did you dislike the fact that the media and democrats, Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg, Chris Cuomo, and Jim Acosta said we’d be in World War III by now with North Korea, and their prophecies did not come to pass?

Did you dislike Trump because under his leadership we became energy-independent and an exporter rather than an importer of oil, no longer relying on the Middle East for our petroleum needs?

Did you dislike him because he wanted to build a wall to keep criminals and drugs from coming into our country?

Did you dislike him because he just slashed the price for medications in some cases by 50%, which is driving big Pharma nuts?

Perhaps you dislike that he signed a law ending the gag-order on pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving options on prescriptions?

Is your dislike for President Trump based on the fact that he signed the Save Our Seas Act, which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic and garbage from the ocean?

Did you dislike that he signed a bill for airports to provide breastfeeding stations for nursing moms?

How about the fact that he signed the biggest wilderness protection and conservation bill in a decade, designating 375,000 acres as protected land, was that why you dislike him?
Did you dislike that he loves America and puts Americans first?

Did you dislike that he made a gay man the ambassador to Germany and then asked him to clean up national security and un-classify as much of it as possible for transparency?

Did you dislike that he’s kept almost every campaign promise (with zero support from Congress who work against him daily!) plus 100 more promises because Washington was much more broken than he or any of us thought?

Do you dislike that he works for free, donating his entire $400,000 salary to different charities?

Did you feel that he did this for four years because he was “showboating?”

Do you dislike that he’s done more for the black community than every other President?

Do you dislike that he listened to senator Scott and passed Invest In Opportunity Zones to help minorities?

Do you dislike that he passed prison reform, which gives people a second chance and has made quite a huge difference for the black communities?

Do you dislike that he passed VA reforms to benefit the very people who served our country and defend our freedom?

Do you dislike that he’s winning and signing new trade deals that benefit Americans, instead of costing us more?

Did you dislike him because, unlike all of the presidents who came before him, he recognized Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel, relocated the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv there, and then proceeded to negotiate four peace accords between Israel and Arab Nations when many in the media were predicting there would be war? Was that why you disliked him?

Do you dislike that he loves his flag and his country?

Do you dislike that he calls out and has shown time and time again that the mainstream media in our country has become corrupt and incompetent, twisting the truth to control and mislead the people and he is trying to protect us from this?

Do you dislike that he has been a President totally committed to ending wars and bringing our troops home?

Perhaps you dislike the stern way he spoke, publically to NATO allies to step up and pay their commitments to defense rather than expecting America to do it for them, something we have done for over seventy-five years?

Do you dislike that he has made a commitment to end child-trafficking and crimes against humanity and has made 1000’s of arrests already?

Do you dislike he’s brought home over 40 Americans held captive, the last one from Iran?

Do you dislike that he’s proven he was right about the Deep State and he was indeed spied on before, during, and after he became President?

Do you dislike that he was a Billionaire before he ran for President and now is worth at least 1/3 less... because he loves America?

Do you dislike that he respects cops, veterans, ICE & First Responders?

Do you dislike that he does not sell out America to other countries, like the leaders prior to him have done?

Could it be possible that the ones who sell out America to line their pockets own the media and Hollywood and hate him so much for trying to expose them and hate him for putting the American people first that they try to manipulate our thinking and control the information we get to try to cultivate hatred for him? These people benefit when you hate the man trying to stop them... so they won’t have to give up the wealth they have gotten and continue to get thru mass taxation and control. Wouldn’t you at least want to research this possibility?

Could 75 million Americans already know the truth... that he has done more for blacks in the last 20 years than our last 5 presidents put together and is actually not a racist and never has been one… but you believe he is because it has been drilled into your head and yet you’ve never researched his accomplishments?

You can start by watching those daily briefings he did during the lockdown (all online) and then watching the coverage on the Main Stream Media and how they twisted it.

Do you actually believe the President encouraged America to inject bleach?

Did you research the effects of UV light which is used to disinfect school busses and medical equipment and is also being used as a treatment for bacteria and respiratory infections? They want you to believe he is stupid because if you figure out that he isn’t, they will lose billions of dollars and all their control.
I know... it is hard to let go of what you believed to be true for most of your life. You are not alone. But your blind hatred of this man who is literally trying to save us from the far left, radical Socialists is going to be detrimental to our country if you continue to support their hatred.

They are teaching hatred and separation...to our children and even to our families! You are not allowed to agree with “part” of their agenda and think for yourself; you must repeat their full belief system, or name-calling and insults ensue.

This is not an informed debate. It is not a reason. This is the very definition of a cult! All or nothing! They despise law and order. Just look around you. He supports law and order, not looting, rioting, and chaos, so we are safe and can live in a civilized society. He stands for unity and America first. Is that why you dislike him?

You will be amazed at how much more peace comes into your life when you turn off the fake news and tune into what America stands for, where we focus on what unites us, not what divides us. The media has despised him from day one. Impeachment was on the table before he even took the oath of office in January 2017. They said Impeach the “motherfuc#^*r”....but then they turn around and say his rhetoric is bad? He was never given a chance, yet he’s done more in 4 years than any president with zero help from the media or democrats. Results don’t lie.

The media and democrats consistently complain about Trump “mismanaging the Covid Crisis." Nothing could be further from the truth. The man has been a rock and his leadership has kept the nation from the abyss. He promised a vaccine before the end of 2020. They said it could not be done. He proved them wrong once again….doses of the vaccine are being delivered now in mid-December!

He built hospitals in NYC and California, sent retrofitted Navy Hospital Ships which went unused, initiated Operation Warp Speed that produced PPE and therapeutics in record time along with thousands of ventilators, far more than we needed, and which are now being sent all over the world. And the overall death rate from Covid stands at less than one percent!

How dare this man, the President of the United States, care so much about the American people and our Country. How dare he stand at attention and salute our Flag, support our troops, honor our veterans, put God back into our lives, protect the unborn, give people second chances and take seriously his oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

How dare this man show up at 2:00 AM at Dover Air Force Base to welcome home hostages held in foreign lands and the remains of our fallen soldiers.

How dare this man develop and implement plans and programs to create the greatest most prosperous economy and standard of living in the history of mankind.

How dare he reduce unemployment to 3.4% and lower unemployment for Black, Asian and Hispanic communities in fifty years!

You would think this man was trying to actually do things rather than speak eloquently and act “Presidential” and “Cool” about such things.

How dare he!

One would think this President was trying to provide leadership.

How crass.

The audacity of this man.

You would think he is trying to be a leader or something.

[pyrohornIII 4,809]

Going back to that article earlier about the odd vote counts for McConnell reminds me that after 16 there was all this talk about Russia interference and possibly machine or count manipulation via hacking.  Because of all of Trump's fraud vomit, that's not a thing.

Russia invested tons of money in our political system via NRA and whoever.  They bought so many Republicans I would think they would want to protect their investments by insuring they kept their seats.

Putin figured Trump could do more damage on the outside, further dividing the country, so let him lose, but make sure the rest win.   

I just don't understand why this isn't discussed more, especially in red states like WV with such anomalies.     I sure think it would behoove the DNC to rebutt all of Trump's crap with some accusations of their own in the lower races.   

Maybe they aren't now, hoping Trump will fizzle out, but I hope in the longer run, by summer there will be some deep investigations going on when it comes to voting.  The states need to show we need a Voting Rights Act II.  

If that doesn't happen then we might as well hang it up.  

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1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

So one of my former golfing buddies, who pitched for UT back in the day, posted this on FB.

So how many times did he get beaned?

[Bozo_Casanova 26,277]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

So one of my former golfing buddies, who pitched for UT back in the day, posted this on FB.

 

I read that to the tune of “Have you Forgotten?” By Darryl Worley.

[AnTiM 1,659]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

So one of my former golfing buddies, who pitched for UT back in the day, posted this on FB.

 

Now have him post a list of all the crooked shit Trump has pulled and how many millions of dollars he has skimmed off to his fellow thieves and those who protect him from prosecution.  Then let's all take a vote and see if lt was worth it.

[Left Coast 863]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

So one of my former golfing buddies, who pitched for UT back in the day, posted this on FB.

 

The only thing I took out of that rant is that they are finally admitting 80 million people voted for Biden.

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

So one of my former golfing buddies, who pitched for UT back in the day, posted this on FB.

 

Astonishing.  Even if you just take the last line of that entire wackadoo diatribe, it is the ramblings of someone who lives in an alternate reality.  The very idea that dotard has ever "tried to lead" is just nonsense.  If you consider any of the shit he has done, or hasn't done, as "trying to lead", you don't know what the fuck leadership is.

[Radical Larry 28,528]

[USMCHorn 1,369]

I'm not reading all of that bullshit.

[Neonmoon 38,127]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

Do you dislike that he’s done more for the black community than every other President?

The fact 75 million people are stupid enough to believe this is astonishing. Trump repeated it enough so it must be true. Repetition is truly the Achilles heel of the simple mind. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/politics/trump-black-african-americans-fact-check.html

This article explains in detail how hilariously incorrect it is if anyone cares. Overall his mostly hollow ‘accomplishments’ for the black community amount to babyshit historically 

your golfing buddy is a lemming 

[DDD Dad 14,250]

The fact 75 million people are stupid enough to believe this is astonishing. Trump repeated it enough so it must be true. Repetition is truly the Achilles heel of the simple mind. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/politics/trump-black-african-americans-fact-check.html
This article explains in detail how hilariously incorrect it is if anyone cares. Overall his mostly hollow ‘accomplishments’ for the black community amount to babyshit historically 
your golfing buddy is a lemming 

Former

[TwiceHorn 31,262]

14 hours ago, staboner said:

Semantics a bit, but I don't think its the radical right being better at using social media, but rather the other way around. Social media creates, collects and feeds fears which the modern American conservative needs to function - see Russia, democrats, colored people, drugs, BLM, Hunter Biden, masks, socialism, and every other manufactured boogeymen they need to keep afloat.

being afraid of everything that isn't oneself is the natural state of humanity sadly. 

Agreed.

Regular, dare I say, mainstream media is mostly full of facts, with a bit of a spin.  Facts are not fun and don't reinforce a twisted worldview.

Darker corners of the internet and social media, that aren't so dark anymore, fuel the idiocy.

Here's a frightening revelation of that fact.  Google or DDG any subject that has a big conspiracy angle, say "lin wood" or "sidney powell" or "dominion voting systems."  You will get a shocking number of results of various goofy-ass alt-right sites repeating whatever conspiratorial nonsense is en vogue.  It makes it difficult for someone who isn't gullible to actually find credible information on the subject.  The channel is flooded with bullshit.  It's no wonder olds can't sort the bullshit from the reality.

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

You will get a shocking number of results of various goofy-ass alt-right sites repeating whatever conspiratorial nonsense is en vogue.  It makes it difficult for someone who isn't gullible to actually find credible information on the subject.  The channel is flooded with bullshit.  It's no wonder olds can't sort the bullshit from the reality.

This is why my FIL gave up and declared all media as false.  It's part laziness, part really not being able to parse the truth from lies, and part frustration.  He's not a trumpkin, thank god, but I would not be surprised if he votes R again in 2022 and 2024.  Thinks dotard is the whole problem.

[BrickHorn 18,186]

2 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

So one of my former golfing buddies, who pitched for UT back in the day, posted this on FB.

Just further proof for my theory that there is nothing dumber than baseball dumb.

[Brisketexan 104,557]

Guys, here’s some great news.

Remember the rule of “every accusation is a confession?” Now...apply that to their shrieking voting fraud and electronic vote manipulation accusations.

The GOP will absolutely do this next election. All the things they complain about it, they will do, openly and shamelessly. And they have inoculated themselves against criticism or consequence, as they have clearly established that to complain about these things means that you are an unhinged nut. It’s rather clever. It will work.

[Sawbonz 27,398]

2 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

Putin figured Trump could do more damage on the outside, further dividing the country, so let him lose, but make sure the rest win.

Wat

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,546]

I like how he implies not starting WW III with North Korea is on the list Trump triumphs.

[TwiceHorn 31,262]

2 hours ago, AnTiM said:

Now have him post a list of all the crooked shit Trump has pulled and how many millions of dollars he has skimmed off to his fellow thieves and those who protect him from prosecution.  Then let's all take a vote and see if lt was worth it.

Yes, stuff that he actually did and is responsible for.  He didn't do 80% of the shit on that list, he just happened to be in charge when it happened.

[TwiceHorn 31,262]

18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Guys, here’s some great news.

Remember the rule of “every accusation is a confession?” Now...apply that to their shrieking voting fraud and electronic vote manipulation accusations.

The GOP will absolutely do this next election. All the things they complain about it, they will do, openly and shamelessly. And they have inoculated themselves against criticism or consequence, as they have clearly established that to complain about these things means that you are an unhinged nut. It’s rather clever. It will work.

I'm starting to think they actually did it.  That's why his vote total increased.  And why they're so big mad.

[FondrenRoad 4,378]

22 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Guys, here’s some great news.

Remember the rule of “every accusation is a confession?” Now...apply that to their shrieking voting fraud and electronic vote manipulation accusations.

The GOP will absolutely do this next election. All the things they complain about it, they will do, openly and shamelessly. And they have inoculated themselves against criticism or consequence, as they have clearly established that to complain about these things means that you are an unhinged nut. It’s rather clever. It will work.

They did it this election. Its also why they are shrieking so loudly. Overwhelming turnout surprised them and overcame their fraud. 

[Brisketexan 104,557]

They did it this election. Its also why they are shrieking so loudly. Overwhelming turnout surprised them and overcame their fraud. 

It’s a fair suspicion.

I hate them so, so, so much.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,834]

9 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

They did it this election. Its also why they are shrieking so loudly. Overwhelming turnout surprised them and overcame their fraud. 

I'm becoming more convinced every day this is true. What's curious is that if someone starts digging too deeply, they will find exactly that. Seems like if you were a part of it, you'd be whistling past the graveyard right now not setting up outside with a megaphone. The whole thing reeks and I don't know of what. Time will tell. Hope I live long enough to see the results.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,546]

It's not like Trump didn't sabotage the Postal Service during the mail-in voting period in broad daylight. I'm sure that's as far as his election rigging went.