Donald Trump 2020

[SubliminalHorn 6,787]

7 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

You may not like the conclusion but the article is spot on. 

That's why I said fuck this article 

[Message Board User 12,395]

2 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

That's why I said fuck this article 

Gotcha.

[Message Board User 12,395]

 

[Biff Tannen 45,685]

11 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

How many times over the last 5 years have we said "well, this is it - this is the thing that finally ends Trump once and for all"?

You may not like the conclusion but the article is spot on.  Anyone thinking that Trump is "finished" because of the half-assed approach to Covid 19 is fooling themselves.

 

He dodged the “Access Hollywood” tape fiasco. He evaded the noose of impeachment over the Ukraine deal. Those might now seem minor compared to the challenge of trying to get reelected during a worldwide health crisis and a looming depression—but if one acknowledges that he has been training in some sense for this sort of a jam for the bulk of his adult existence, then this nightmarish predicament starts to look less like an uncrackable problem than a potential capstone accomplishment.

“He’s a magician that way,” said Jennifer Mercieca, a professor at Texas A&M University and the author of the forthcoming Demagogue for President: The Rhetorical Genius of Donald Trump. “Other people would stop and recognize that they were defeated. Or that they should be shamed. He refuses.”

George Arzt, a Democratic consultant in New York, who’s known Trump for going on 50 years, likens him to the world’s most noted escape artist.

“Houdini,” he said.

I really don't think it matters what he does or doesn't do at this point.  People have been in their corners for 3 years. That 37-43% of support hasn't and won't change in either direction.  It's just a waiting game until November now.

[TwiceHorn 31,471]

He hasn't had to sit for reelection.

Does anyone really think his base has grown?  He lost the popular vote.

Meanwhile, he's shown those not captured by his  propaganda that he is not speculatively unfit to be president, as he was in 2016, but spectacularly unfit for the office in real time.  McConnell and the Senate and Bill Barr can't win the election for him.

I will hand it to him, though.  Anytime there is the slightest bit of subjectivity to an issue, he bulldozes past the truth and manages to avoid splashback.

Edited April 17, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Mo Horn 8,842]

3 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

 

So in other words he spoke the truth. 

[Message Board User 12,395]

 

[Red Five 40,858]

I have to admit, even by Trump standards it's amazing to see him slam others for making "misleading" claims about the virus. 

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

11 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

 

We don't say that when we think nobody's listening.  We say that out loud.  In public.  All.  The.  Time.

Donald Trump and his supporters are enormous racists and xenophobes.  I'll also add in misogynists, ignorami, and traitors.  

56 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

 

Everybody's a great escape artist until they drown in a glass box.

[Message Board User 12,395]

 

[SubliminalHorn 6,787]

7 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

We don't say that when we think nobody's listening.  We say that out loud.  In public.  All.  The.  Time.

Donald Trump and his supporters are enormous racists and xenophobes.  I'll also add in misogynists, ignorami, and traitors.  

Everybody's a great escape artist until they drown in a glass box.

Or until they get a surprise gut punch. Can Joe deliver it?

[Jack Straw 2,954]

32 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

How many times over the last 5 years have we said "well, this is it - this is the thing that finally ends Trump once and for all"?

You may not like the conclusion but the article is spot on.  Anyone thinking that Trump is "finished" because of the half-assed approach to Covid 19 is fooling themselves.

this is exactly right.  the reality is that by November, while we will still be dealing with Covid, the worst will likely be behind us and Trump's complete incompetence in handling this crisis will all be forgotten by most.  just like everything else has.  he'll be re-elected, and probably fairly easily.

[Eskimohorn 5,635]

From FDR to Obama, there is not a single administration that would have cut and ignore pandemic prep, ignore intelligence of a potential epidemic in China, and not used all powers of the Federal government to give hot zones adequate testing, PPE, and ventilators within 6-8 weeks.

We saw cracks in W, but they quickly fired political hacks and got experts in the lead (Iraq, Katrina). What we’re seeing is the full blown vision of neo-liberalism flailing at leading a modern national government. With a con artist at the helm, who sees opportunities to grift. We’re entering a new stage in the downfall of the United States.

[DixonHur 11,304]

23 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

 

The fact that it's not 95+% disapproval proves we the US is a failed nation.

[SameSame 1,704]

55 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

 

This fucking guy

[Degenerate Gardner 4,085]

57 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I have to admit, even by Trump standards it's amazing to see him slam others for making "misleading" claims about the virus. 

Being unbound from the shackles of intellect much less intellectual honesty is apparently very liberating.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Degenerate Gardner

[Guest Lobo]

Trump suddenly switched in his tweets from 'WHO' to 'W.H.O.'     You know who else does that?  The New York Times?  CONSPIRACY! 

C.  O.  speeeracie!    /CR 

Edited April 17, 2020 by Lobo

[4th&Five 41,552]

sounds like a call for violence to me.

 

Edited April 17, 2020 by 4th&Five

['stache 21,815]

2 hours ago, Message Board User said:

 

 

1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Fuck that article 

 

1 hour ago, Message Board User said:

How many times over the last 5 years have we said "well, this is it - this is the thing that finally ends Trump once and for all"?

You may not like the conclusion but the article is spot on.  Anyone thinking that Trump is "finished" because of the half-assed approach to Covid 19 is fooling themselves.

 

He dodged the “Access Hollywood” tape fiasco. He evaded the noose of impeachment over the Ukraine deal. Those might now seem minor compared to the challenge of trying to get reelected during a worldwide health crisis and a looming depression—but if one acknowledges that he has been training in some sense for this sort of a jam for the bulk of his adult existence, then this nightmarish predicament starts to look less like an uncrackable problem than a potential capstone accomplishment.

“He’s a magician that way,” said Jennifer Mercieca, a professor at Texas A&M University and the author of the forthcoming Demagogue for President: The Rhetorical Genius of Donald Trump. “Other people would stop and recognize that they were defeated. Or that they should be shamed. He refuses.”

George Arzt, a Democratic consultant in New York, who’s known Trump for going on 50 years, likens him to the world’s most noted escape artist.

“Houdini,” he said.

 

1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

That's why I said fuck this article 

Just wait until Obama starts campaigning for Biden in a very public way. It won't be in crowded arenas unfortunately, although there is still a chance by October (in which case they should do a full blown football stadium tour), but there will be creative ways to take the spotlight eventually. We need to get on the downside of the curve first. There are still plenty of "moderate" or "undecided" voters that will see it as unseemly to try and take the spotlight from the president while we are still in the midst of the worst of the crisis (they are idiots, but their votes count too). Biden is doing fine speaking from home and getting some headlines with the recent endorsements. Once we're on the back end of the curve, it will be time to go full bore. If Bloomberg is true to his word, his funding alone can get Biden and Obama (and hopefully a strong VP nominee) on every TV channel regularly Perot style. When smaller gatherings are allowed, there can be audiences even if they are smallish. The Biden campaign has not even begun yet, just wait. 

In sum, Obama is a much more likeable presence and when he is fully activated, Trump is going to just have to rage tweet about all the attention he is getting for Biden. Like someone said just a few posts ago, the Trump cult is what it is, but he lost the popular vote and hasn't gained any new followers through any of this. All Biden needs is for the non-trump Hillary haters to vote this time around. Yeah, Biden is not Obama, but Obama can't run, and this is as close to an Obama II campaign as is possible.

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

2 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

sounds like a call for violence to me.

 

This will end well.

[Red Five 40,858]

Totally normal. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20,873]

*missed that it was already posted.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Hiphopopotamos

[Guest Lobo]

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

 

 

Just wait until Obama starts campaigning for Biden in a very public way. It won't be in crowded arenas unfortunately, although there is still a chance by October (in which case they should do a full blown football stadium tour), but there will be creative ways to take the spotlight eventually. We need to get on the downside of the curve first. There are still plenty of "moderate" or "undecided" voters that will see it as unseemly to try and take the spotlight from the president while we are still in the midst of the worst of the crisis (they are idiots, but their votes count too). Biden is doing fine speaking from home and getting some headlines with the recent endorsements. Once we're on the back end of the curve, it will be time to go full bore. If Bloomberg is true to his word, his funding alone can get Biden and Obama (and hopefully a strong VP nominee) on every TV channel regularly Perot style. When smaller gatherings are allowed, there can be audiences even if they are smallish. The Biden campaign has not even begun yet, just wait. 

In sum, Obama is a much more likeable presence and when he is fully activated, Trump is going to just have to rage tweet about all the attention he is getting for Biden. Like someone said just a few posts ago, the Trump cult is what it is, but he lost the popular vote and hasn't gained any new followers through any of this. All Biden needs is for the non-trump Hillary haters to vote this time around. Yeah, Biden is not Obama, but Obama can't run, and this is as close to an Obama II campaign as is possible.

Absolutely this.  I voted for Obama in 2008, but not in 2012.  I felt he squandered his first term on bullshit like an overhaul to health insurance, not to health care.  And his party blamed everything on the Republicans.  Despite the revisionist history, Obama's party controlled the House for half his first term, and the Senate for his entire first term.  That's 75% control plus the executive and a relatively centrist Supreme Court.  Yet every fucking Democrat wouldn't shut the fuck up about how it was the GOP's fault nothing good got done.  But he was dealt a tough hand with the economy as it was for most of his first term.  I actually preferred his second term, but couldn't bring myself to vote Democrat in 2012 and went another way.  

Having said that, his steady leadership is all American is craving right now.  And Biden is that surrogate.  I've always scoffed at how much gravity people place on VP selections.  For some reason folks that pride themselves on being political insiders continue to think it's based on geography or taken from the pool of previous candidates in that particular election cycle.  When the overwhelming majority of selections are taken for reasons despite those two factors, not because of them/either one of them.  But this VP selection is absolutely mission critical because Biden may not survive his first term.  And if he does, good chance he steps aside in 2024 and merely anoints his VP as the obvious top-ticket selection in 2024.  

Anyway, end rant.  I woke up to a President calling for the liberation of myriad midwestern states.  Liberation from whom?  Who the fuck is occupying this states?  I can see him like Steven Bauer/Manny Ribera in "Scarface" running around the Oval Office, "LIBERTAD!  LIBERTAD!  LIBERTAD!"  and then trying to shiv some communist leader.  

[henrygandorf 29,191]

22 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

sounds like a call for violence to me.

 

no ohio?  weird. 

[NameAlreadyInUse 5,112]

What are we LIBERATING?  His tweets tend to be out of context if you aren't watching Fox News as they are sent out.

[DDD Dad 14,339]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

We don't say that when we think nobody's listening.  We say that out loud.  In public.  All.  The.  Time.

Donald Trump and his supporters are enormous racists and xenophobes.  I'll also add in misogynists, ignorami, and traitors.  

Everybody's a great escape artist until they drown in a glass box.

Or get punched in the gut.

Edit:  Dammit subliminal beat me to it.  Things move fast around here.

Edited April 17, 2020 by DDD Dad

[Tom 2,959]

1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Or until they get a surprise gut punch. Can Joe deliver it?

 

Fingers still crossed that Joe challenges him to a push-up contest or boxing match at the debates. Nothing would be more American in 2020.

[DDD Dad 14,339]

2 minutes ago, Tom said:

 

Fingers still crossed that Joe challenges him to a push-up contest or boxing match at the debates. Nothing would be more American in 2020.

[4th&Five 41,552]

 

[BrickHorn 18,234]

39 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

sounds like a call for violence to me.

 

This has a very Order 66 feel to it.

[Hookah Horns 3,083]

3 hours ago, Message Board User said:

 

His immunity to consequences has a lot more to do with his personality cult consisting entirely of morons who put their allegiance to him over everything else than it does with anything about him per se. 

Edited April 17, 2020 by Hookah Horns

[DigglerontheHoof 21,199]

19 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

What are we LIBERATING?  His tweets tend to be out of context if you aren't watching Fox News as they are sent out.

He’s like a drunken idiot at the end of a bar yelling nonsense.  That’s our president.  And fully 35/40% of the population loves it.
We truly deserve whatever fucked up fate awaits us.

[Red Five 40,858]

During a global pandemic, with our economy shut down. “Hey look over there! They’re trying to take your guns! You’d better get mad and cause a distraction um I mean go liberate your state!”.

[Hookah Horns 3,083]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

During a global pandemic, with our economy shut down. “Hey look over there! They’re trying to take your guns! You’d better get mad and cause a distraction um I mean go liberate your state!”.

Not transparent at all really. 

[Hookah Horns 3,083]

Liberate tutemet ex inferis

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

4 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Liberate tutemet ex inferis

[yoladu 4,094]

1 hour ago, Eskimohorn said:

From FDR to Obama, there is not a single administration that would have cut and ignore pandemic prep, ignore intelligence of a potential epidemic in China, and not used all powers of the Federal government to give hot zones adequate testing, PPE, and ventilators within 6-8 weeks.

We saw cracks in W, but they quickly fired political hacks and got experts in the lead (Iraq, Katrina). What we’re seeing is the full blown vision of neo-liberalism flailing at leading a modern national government. With a con artist at the helm, who sees opportunities to grift. We’re entering a new stage in the downfall of the United States.

At this point i don't even think it is grift, it's all about ego and narcissism. He loves the attention being President gives him, but he doesn't want to do the work that Presidents do. Real bummer, right?

Everything decision or non-decision is motivated at this point by how he retains his job and keeps the national spotlight on him. If people die and the constitution is trampled in the process, that is how it goes.

[sidis 9,828]

22 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Liberate tutemet ex inferis

scariest fucking movie i have ever seen.  that scene is nightmare fuel.

[Dbeasy 15,051]

What is so amazing is that his supporters run around dismissing facts and news reports as fake news, while completely ignoring Trump’s own ridiculously stupid communications live and on Twitter, while actually believing in fake news sources like rush Limbaugh, Fox News and Brietbart. The stupidity of his supporters is unbelievable. One day down the line they will all be completely embarrassed they supported him, if they aren’t already.

[Brandywine 1,316]

That article is spot on and it pisses me off. Claim that he saved 2 million lives so that any deaths below that number is a victory! So Trump! Wake Up!!!!! America! 

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

25 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

What is so amazing is that his supporters run around dismissing facts and news reports as fake news, while completely ignoring Trump’s own ridiculously stupid communications live and on Twitter, while actually believing in fake news sources like rush Limbaugh, Fox News and Brietbart. The stupidity of his supporters is unbelievable. One day down the line they will all be completely embarrassed they supported him, if they aren’t already.

Nah they'll be long dead before this country has any type of introspection on Trump.

[DDD Dad 14,339]

 

56 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Liberate tutemet ex inferis

 

51 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

 

34 minutes ago, sidis said:

scariest fucking movie i have ever seen.  that scene is nightmare fuel.

To say nothing of the grammatical issues with the quote. /latinpedant

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

 

 

 

To say nothing of the grammatical issues with the quote. /latinpedant

Thanks Mr. Wheelock.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

the latin kids were the nerdiest kids in my school. just sayin'

[6th Street 6,403]

45 minutes ago, sidis said:

scariest fucking movie i have ever seen.  that scene is nightmare fuel.

That movie is pure evil

[Pasken 1,309]

1 hour ago, sidis said:

scariest fucking movie i have ever seen.  that scene is nightmare fuel.

There was a lot more of the scene that was filmed that got cut in editing for obvious reasons.

[DDD Dad 14,339]

32 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

the latin kids were the nerdiest kids in my school. just sayin'

[Hookah Horns 3,083]

47 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Nah they'll be long dead before this country has any type of introspection on Trump.

Sadly I agree. They'll move on to bashing Biden for petty shit they would have or actually did defend trump for as if their lives depended on it. 

We'll just have to take solace that history will obviously conclude that he was the worst president ever. 

[Rabidhorn 121]

4 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

From FDR to Obama, there is not a single administration that would have cut and ignore pandemic prep, ignore intelligence of a potential epidemic in China, and not used all powers of the Federal government to give hot zones adequate testing, PPE, and ventilators within 6-8 weeks.

We saw cracks in W, but they quickly fired political hacks and got experts in the lead (Iraq, Katrina). What we’re seeing is the full blown vision of neo-liberalism flailing at leading a modern national government. With a con artist at the helm, who sees opportunities to grift. We’re entering a new stage in the downfall of the United States.

For the first time in my 60 years I am worried about seeing a non American flag flying over the WH if Trump wins, he has no God except money, he has no alliance except who pays him the most. Trump has pushed America to collapse point and just smiles like a clown.

[FondrenRoad 4,378]

14 minutes ago, Rabidhorn said:

For the first time in my 60 years I am worried about seeing a non American flag flying over the WH if Trump wins, he has no God except money, he has no alliance except who pays him the most. Trump has pushed America to collapse point and just smiles like a clown.

It will still be an American flag.  You'll be seeing this flag again.

Trump won't be at the White House though.  He'll be down at the new Confederate statehouse in Montgomery.  They'll have a different, but familiar flag as well.  Virginia and North Carolina won't be going with them this time.

Edited April 17, 2020 by FondrenRoad