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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Trump is going to tweet a bunch of stupid shit. The transition will be a logistical and optical clusterfuck. But some of y'all need to stop huffing glue. The transition will take place, there will not be a secret service agent dragging him out of the white house.  

1 -- Is it LIKELY that you are correct?  Yep.

2 -- Is there a non-zero chance that you are wrong?  YEP.  

Point 2 is why we are in totally fucking uncharted, totally dangerous waters.  You and I both know that epic bullshittery to the point of bringing about violence is actually possible.  Maybe slim chance, but legitimately possible.  That's a dangerous motherfucking place to be.  A 1% chance of killing the Republic is about .9999999% higher than we should ever fucking see.

 

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5 hours ago, 'stache said:

4. John Roberts isn't going to let his court sanction this type of shit. There would need to be some actual evidence of "chinese voter fraud" or whatever that article said for Roberts to even start considering the "emergency" as legitimate. It would be like his DACA ruling. The standard for overturning an administrative decision is really high with a ton of deference to the executive branch, but it still has to have reasons and be legal. Saying "chinese interference' isn't enough.

So, in other words...a Chinese fire drill?

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1 hour ago, pyrohornIII said:

The biggest point people keep missing about this Trump/Barr takeover is it won't happen if we have a Senate that isn't in his pocket.  Taking control of the Senate again is as big or bigger than getting Trump out of the WH.  If we had a Senate with any moral fiber, Trump would already be gone.  

People need to be reminded on a daily basis that Trump would not be Trump without McConnell, Cornyn, Grassley, Cruz, Graham, Collins, et al.  Those guys are the real villains here.  They are the ones who need to be castrated and stripped of all power.  

And the EC has no bearing on those people staying in power or being cast out.

 

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

How does the Democrats taking back control of the U.S. Senate (which I oppose, I like split governments with tons and tons of gridlock) defeat Trump if he decides to unconstitutionally cling to the Oval Office?  Any disruption to the higher body won't take place until late January, the EC is seated and cast in mid-December, some 5 weeks prior.  

Winning the senate is a big, big, big motherfucking IF. So that doesn't really make me feel any better. 

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9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

1 -- Is it LIKELY that you are correct?  Yep.

2 -- Is there a non-zero chance that you are wrong?  YEP.  

Point 2 is why we are in totally fucking uncharted, totally dangerous waters.  You and I both know that epic bullshittery to the point of bringing about violence is actually possible.  Maybe slim chance, but legitimately possible.  That's a dangerous motherfucking place to be.  A 1% chance of killing the Republic is about .9999999% higher than we should ever fucking see.

What do you think has a greater likelihood of occurring:

1. Substantial shift to the use of mail in ballots during pandemic facilitates opportunities for substantive foreign interference in election.

2. Trump is arrested by the secret service for refusing to leave office.

 

We should be able to agree that both are non-zero probabilities, but which do you think more likely and how much so?   

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14 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What do you think has a greater likelihood of occurring:

1. Substantial shift to the use of mail in ballots during pandemic facilitates opportunities for substantive foreign interference in election.

2. Trump is arrested by the secret service for refusing to leave office.

 

We should be able to agree that both are non-zero probabilities, but which do you think more likely and how much so?   

i think the idea of secret service arresting trump is super low. But that is not the only concern. Also, what does option 1 even mean? I think we will have a substantial shift in use of mail-in ballots. In your writing, it seems that this necessitates opportunity for substantive foreign interference. I do not think that foreign interference is likely, so how would option 1 even be assessed?

Just to be complete, I would say option 1 is likely (assuming as you did that mail-in ballots necessarily facilitate opportunities for foreign interference. I think option 2 is unlikely.

How would you rate the likelihood of the following additional items?

1B - Substantial shift to the use of mail in ballots during pandemic leads to Trump / Barr / Other national Republicans claiming interference without evidence?

2B - Trump uses this claim to prepare some kind of legal challenge to election, leading to some level of chaos / confusion as to next president?

 

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1 minute ago, Serak The Preparer said:

 Also, what does option 1 even mean? I think we will have a substantial shift in use of mail-in ballots. In your writing, it seems that this necessitates opportunity for substantive foreign interference. I do not think that foreign interference is likely, so how would option 1 even be assessed?

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with concern trolling. 

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4 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

How would you rate the likelihood of the following additional items?

1B - Substantial shift to the use of mail in ballots during pandemic leads to Trump / Barr / Other national Republicans claiming interference without evidence?

2B - Trump uses this claim to prepare some kind of legal challenge to election, leading to some level of chaos / confusion as to next president?

 

highly likely, not highly likely. 

 

My point is that hyperbolics about the 0.0001% are not reality based.

But if you really want to hyperventilate about something, I would keep a very close eye on the mail in balloting process. Seems rife for abuse, and I am not talking domestic manipulation. 

 

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highly likely, not highly likely. 

 

My point is that hyperbolics about the 0.0001% are not reality based.

But if you really want to hyperventilate about something, I would keep a very close eye on the mail in balloting process. Seems rife for abuse, and I am not talking domestic manipulation. 

 

While I assume you are throwing that 0.0001% number out there as your baseline, I don't think it is absurd to say you are several orders of magnitude too low on that. I think it is way closer to 1%. Still not likely, to be sure. But that is enough for me to at least suggest we should think about this contingency. 

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11 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with concern trolling. 

What do you think more likely: Russia/China/NORK attempt to use novel angles of attack provided by increased use of mail in ballots to disrupt the election, or SS/Military called into to forcibly remove Trump from the West Wing after he refuses to leave office?

 

Just trying to figure out which balls we are suppose to keep our eyes on.*

 

*South Austin's mom.   

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22 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

  

 

highly likely, not highly likely. 

 

My point is that hyperbolics about the 0.0001% are not reality based.

But if you really want to hyperventilate about something, I would keep a very close eye on the mail in balloting process. Seems rife for abuse, and I am not talking domestic manipulation. 

 

Oh, they're ripe for abuse.  And we have a script for it.  Abuse by foreign powers, at the welcoming invitation and with the cooperation of the GOP.  

All risks run back to the same source: a literal RICO case is running our fucking country.  The rule of law isn't even a speedbump for them.

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58 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

I'd love to see Kellyanne naked.

I've had a thing for the blonde shiksas since they first turned up decades ago. Coulter, Kellyanne, and Laura. So yea, I'm in. In enough to break my usual posting habits. Plus, most women are generally interesting enough to look at however they choose to present themselves. I didn't grow up with pornstars, strippers, and internet porn being mainstream. I like the way regular women look. If Kellyanne posed, I'd surely take a look.

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37 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Sounds really fun

 

 

I'm sure it will be accurate,  probably right up there with Geaorge Washington and airplanes. Im sure he won't offend the Sioux and others.... he'll probably tell them how lucky they are. 

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9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What do you think more likely: Russia/China/NORK attempt to use novel angles of attack provided by increased use of mail in ballots to disrupt the election, or SS/Military called into to forcibly remove Trump from the West Wing after he refuses to leave office?

 

Just trying to figure out which balls we are suppose to keep our eyes on.*

 

*South Austin's mom.   

I don't think mail-in ballots are an effective angle for election fraud, and the only real potential for disruption is through propaganda angles already being put in play by the president and GOP. Why would the Russians and Chinese need to do it?
I don't think the SS or MIlitary scenario is likely, but if Biden wins or is declared the winner following some judicial fracas, Biden will be inaugurated on 1/21/21. If President Trump refuses to go, he will be removed physically from the White House, most likely by the US Park Police. 

And South Austin's mom gets around, I hear. 

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m not sure why anyone thinks our institutions are going to save us if Trump refuses to leave.  There shouldn’t be any “process” beyond the election. This shit about going through the courts and Congress is idiotic if you’ve been paying attention to how that’s been working.  If Trump refuses to leave it will be on.  No more bullshit should be tolerated. Period.

Shut the fuck up Hugo.  Trump will leave when his term is up.  Preferably next January. If he doesn't leave his Secret Service detail will cuff him and drag his ass out. If he somehow has blackwater mercs hidden behind the drapes in the oval office, Seal Team 6 or similar will go in and eradicate the problem. There is no mechanism for him to stay in power when his term is up and you fueling hysteria on this website, while par for the course for you, is beyond tiring.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

1 -- Is it LIKELY that you are correct?  Yep.

2 -- Is there a non-zero chance that you are wrong?  YEP.  

Point 2 is why we are in totally fucking uncharted, totally dangerous waters.  You and I both know that epic bullshittery to the point of bringing about violence is actually possible.  Maybe slim chance, but legitimately possible.  That's a dangerous motherfucking place to be.  A 1% chance of killing the Republic is about .9999999% higher than we should ever fucking see.

 

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Why didn't 15 year olds look that way in the late 80s?

We didn’t have facetune and photoshop and filters and contouring makeup and wonderbras.

And our moms didn’t take us to get our eyebrows threaded and gel manicures and highlights and $200 haircuts.
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12 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Like most narcissists trump is a coward at heart and will eventually quit. He will try to burn everything down in the process though. 

To Trump, America is a prize that he won. If he loses reelection, he’ll do what all narcissists do when they suspect you might take away something they like. He’ll ruin the fucking thing so that no one can have it.

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

What do you think more likely: Russia/China/NORK attempt to use novel angles of attack provided by increased use of mail in ballots to disrupt the election, or SS/Military called into to forcibly remove Trump from the West Wing after he refuses to leave office?

 

Just trying to figure out which balls we are suppose to keep our eyes on.*

 

*South Austin's mom.   

I’m more interested in your both sides opinion on what we do when all of the above happens?  

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Yep. One time a friend of mine posted a picture on Facebook of when we were juniors in high school. It contained a pic of P____ who was a freshman at the time. Some other 40 something year old friend of mine posted in response P_____ is looking hot! I was tempted to post, but ultimately didn’t, uh you know she was 14 at the time.

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12 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

I’m more interested in your both sides opinion on what we do when all of the above happens?  

I think that we should take measures to prevent the former.  I think that the latter is a distraction. But you guys are like cats chasing a laser pointer, so I don't imagine the #resistance will really amount to much outside of twitter. 

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1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

Yep. One time a friend of mine posted a picture on Facebook of when we were juniors in high school. It contained a pic of P____ who was a freshman at the time. Some other 40 something year old friend of mine posted in response P_____ is looking hot! I was tempted to post, but ultimately didn’t, uh you know she was 14 at the time.

My observation is that the ones who really hit their stride in their mid to late teens look pretty worn out at 40.  At this point in life, I'll happily take my bride tightening things up during the forth lap. 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

My observation is that the ones who really hit their stride in their mid to late teens look pretty worn out at 40.  At this point in life, I'll happily take my bride tightening things up during the forth lap. 

I think this is generally true. The hottest girls in high school in general eventually get fat. The quietly attractive girls get even better with age. 

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1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

I think this is generally true. The hottest girls in high school in general eventually get fat. The quietly attractive girls get even better with age. 

Right.  In other words, Clau Dog here gonna turn into her mom. 

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3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Right.  In other words, Clau Dog here gonna turn into her mom. 

My mother in law is kind of heavy because she’s kind of lazy so if the general rule is true I’m fucked. But my wife is so much different than her mom and like her Dad that I still have some hope.

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Republican satisfaction with the way things are going in the U.S. has dropped significantly since April, falling close to Democratic dissatisfaction, according to a survey by the Pew Research Center.

Why it matters: Until June 30, Republican satisfaction with the state of the country had stayed above 50% for nearly all of Trump’s presidency, according to Pew. The latest survey shows 19% of Republicans and those who lean Republican are satisfied with the direction of the country, compared to 7% of Democrats and those who lean Democrat.

 

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President Trump's steady approval ratings within the Republican Party may be eroding as unemployment claims persist and coronavirus infections surge in most of the country. His response to protests against racial injustice earlier this month has also left top Republicans uneasy about his re-election prospects. 

By the numbers: Joe Biden is leading Trump 54% to 44% when it comes to voter preference, with strong advantages over the incumbent in terms of temperament and empathy.

 

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63% of Republicans say they feel angry about the state of the U.S., while nearly 78% of Democrats report the same. 

56% of Republicans say they are fearful about the state of the country, while 75% of Democrats report the same — marking a wider partisan split. 

Only one quarter of Republicans told Pew that they felt proud when thinking about the country in its current state.

Flashback: 74% of Americans said in an AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll earlier this month that the country is heading in the wrong direction, including 63% of Republicans — up from 42% in May.

 

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