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Let me be candid and honest here my man. I cannot be sympathetic to your comments because this is how adult life has always been. From the moment I stepped out of my home and headed off to college I h

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it won't matter if his taxes ever come out.  it won't matter if his taxes don't ever come out.  you wanna know why?  because we already know what's in them. since early 2017 when people starting

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15 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Cracks me up that every fucking artist basically disavows Trump when their music is played at an event.

If he had someone smart on his campaign they would just lean into the clown show they've created and play this as his walkoff music. 

 

Then came the white man with his sick and empty head

 

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6 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

So was that real that the audience was chanting at the natives to go back where they came from?  Did that actually happen?

Odds are strongly in favor of that being fabricated. The crowd was screened to avoid disruptions. The protestors were about a mile away. Many of the people had obtained passes to get in, granted by the distinguished politicians. Sen. Rounds’ office asked us if we wanted passes, but we declined because my wife had orthopedic surgery earlier this week.  

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34 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

What's that about Dems not being able to write ad copy?

The fact that the democrats can’t use bounty gate to go after the republicans tells you how unorganized and lack any creativity they have. 

They should be on every tv show and sticking to a few talking points about it

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

bwahawhahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahhahaha

per TexAgs : 

If you hate this speech you hate America or you don't want to give credit to Trump. No and ifs or buts.
 

You’re talking about a group of just flat out fucking morons.

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21 minutes ago, Gengs1 said:

The fact that the democrats can’t use bounty gate to go after the republicans tells you how unorganized and lack any creativity they have. 

They should be on every tv show and sticking to a few talking points about it

The Dems seem to have a different idea of how to go after bunker boy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/02/democrats-ads-trump-341903

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Democratic ad makers think they’ve discovered Trump’s soft spot

Donald Trump wasn’t halfway through his speech in Tulsa, Okla., and Democratic ad makers in Washington and New York were already cutting footage for an air raid on the slumping president.

They didn’t focus on the president’s curious monologue about his difficulties descending a ramp or drinking water at West Point, the small crowd size of the Tulsa event or even his use of the racist term “kung flu.” Instead, the ads zeroed in on Trump’s admission that he urged officials to “slow the [coronavirus] testing down.”

It’s a reflection of a growing consensus among Democrats about what kind of hits on Trump are most likely to persuade swing voters — and which ones won’t. As in 2016, ad makers are focusing on Trump’s character. But unlike four years ago, they are no longer focusing on his character in isolation — rather they are pouring tens of millions of dollars into ads yoking his behavior to substantive policy issues surrounding the coronavirus, the economy and the civil unrest since the death of George Floyd.

“You can’t chase the Trump clown car,” said Bradley Beychok, president of the progressive group American Bridge. “Him drinking water and throwing a glass is goofy and may make for a good meme, but it doesn’t matter in the scheme of things … What people care about is this outbreak.”

Until recently, it wasn’t entirely clear what, if anything, worked against Trump. From the moment he announced his presidential campaign five years ago, not even the most incendiary material seemed to cause significant damage. Not calling Mexican immigrants “rapists,” not “blood coming out of her wherever,” not “grab them by the p---y” — all of which were featured by Democrats in character-based ads attacking Trump.

By Election Day, most voters didn’t find Trump honest or trustworthy, according to exit polls. But they voted for him anyway. And throughout much of his first term, including his impeachment, Democrats struggled to find an anti-Trump message that gained traction.

In their preparations for 2020, outside Democratic groups spent more than a year surveying voters in swing states by phone and online. They convened in-person focus groups and enlisted voters in swing states to keep diaries of their media consumption.

Multiple outside groups said they began to test their ads more rigorously than in 2016, using online panels to determine how likely an ad was to either change a viewer’s impression of Trump or to change how he or she planned to vote. Priorities USA, a major Democratic super PAC, alone expects to test more than 500 ads this cycle. Priorities, American Bridge and other outside groups, including organized labor, have been meeting regularly to share internal research and media plans.

“One thing we saw in polling a lot before the coronavirus outbreak is that people didn’t think he was a strong leader or a good leader, they complained about his Twitter,” said Nick Ahamed, analytics director at Priorities USA. “But they had a hard time connecting those character flaws they saw in him with their day-to-day experience.”

Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic and recent protests, he said, “really made concrete for people the ways in which his leadership has direct consequences on them and their loved ones … It’s easier to make ads that talk about his leadership than before the outbreak.”

The advertising elements that appear to work, according to interviews with more than a dozen Democrats involved in message research, vary from ad to ad. Using Trump’s own words against him often tests well, as do charts and other graphics, which serve to highlight Trump’s distaste for science. Voters who swung from President Barack Obama to Trump in 2016 — and who regret it — are good messengers. And so is Joe Biden, whose voice is widely considered preferable to that of a professional narrator. Not only does he convey empathy, according to Democrats inside and outside Biden's campaign, but using Biden's voice "helps people think about him as president," said Patrick Bonsignore, Biden’s director of paid media.

But the ad makers’ overarching takeaway from their research was this: While Trump may not be vulnerable on issues of character alone, as he demonstrated in 2016, he is vulnerable when character is tied to his policy record on the economy and health care.

“What we’ve learned from a lot of previous experience … is that quite honestly, people who work in politics can be bad prognosticators in terms of which ad will work,” said Patrick McHugh, Priorities’ executive director. “You see a lot of times the videos that go viral on Twitter … you test those ads, and more often than not they backlash … they can move voters toward Trump.”

For the negative ad industry, the coronavirus has been a bonanza because it inextricably linked both the economy and health care. On the evening of his Tulsa rally, American Bridge, which had already been working on an ad pummeling Trump for his response to the coronavirus, bookended its material with Trump’s acknowledgment that he urged officials to “slow the testing down.”

Biden’s campaign rushed a video onto social media skewering Trump for the admission. And Priorities USA, the Biden campaign’s preferred big-money vehicle, was on TV within days with Trump’s testing remarks in the swing states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Michigan.

Jimmy Siegel, an ad maker who worked on Clinton’s 2008 campaign and for Michael Bloomberg this cycle, said, “You need more positive Biden stuff” — what another strategist called “more Biden cowbell.”

“I think Democrats have had a theory of the case against President Trump for a while, but it really hasn’t been until the last few months when it started finally getting traction,” said Mark Putnam, the famed Democratic ad maker who worked for Obama and also for Biden before parting ways with the campaign last year. “He almost seemed to have some kind of anti-gravity secret that allowed him to consistently screw things up and yet never pay a political price for it. And with just the way he’s handled one crisis after another in really the worst possible way, it’s finally sinking in.”

However, Putnam said, “That’s only half the battle … We also have to offer an alternative.”

Unite the Country, the super PAC that Putnam is working with, has released several TV and digital ads highlighting Biden’s biography and record on the economy, including a spot featuring Biden’s childhood home in in Scranton, Pa. — complete with the bed Biden slept in as a child that Putnam’s team found stored in the attic when they arrived.

And Biden’s campaign itself began working this month to define the former vice president — and Trump — for a general election audience, releasing two ads as part of a $15 million buy, his first major advertising offensive of the general election campaign.

Just as the outside Democratic groups did, Biden's campaign tested those ads with online panels, finding versions that used Biden’s own voice performed “dramatically stronger” than those using a professional narrator, the Biden campaign's Bonsignore said.

In one ad, Biden talks about the economy, offering only an implicit contrast with Trump.

But Biden’s other ad cuts a much sharper contrast — staying with Democrats’ relentless criticism of the incumbent. It includes footage of Trump posing with a Bible outside St. John’s Episcopal Church near the White House after officials forced protesters from the area, as well as an image of Trump’s “both sides” reaction to the deadly violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va. — an episode that has gained new resonance amid the racial unrest surrounding Floyd’s killing.

The ad recalled Hillary Clinton’s first ad of the 2016 general election, when Clinton used footage of Trump encouraging violence at a campaign rally and mocking a reporter’s disability to make a call for unity.

But there was one significant difference from the 2016 attack on Trump. Four years ago, said Tad Devine, who was a senior strategist to Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign, issues of character proved irrelevant in general election advertising “because people weren’t voting on it” — there was no connection to draw between Trump’s character and a record of governance that did not yet exist.

This year, he said, “That is absolutely the weakest front for Trump … Things have changed so dramatically, and the connection between the character of the president and that president’s ability to protect people, whether it’s from economic collapse or pandemic, is really important.”

The contrast works, Devine said, because “people are so desperate to turn the page from what’s happening in America today.”

 

TLDR; Dems still taking the high road and won't go for the jugular. Guess the Lincoln Project, Vote Vets and MeidasTouch will have to do the dirty work.

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TLDR; Dems still taking the high road and won't go for the jugular. Guess the Lincoln Project, Vote Vets and MeidasTouch will have to do the dirty work.

Meidas Touch is a dem group.

Also, I approve of these dilettantes spreading to each other.


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Was it just a week ago that our president tweeted a white power video?  Now it’s all but forgotten. 
 
insane how there wasn’t more outrage. 
 

Hell, it happened like two days ago.

When we get shit piled on top of sewage piled on top of garbage on an hourly basis it’s easy to forget about the garbage.
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3 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I bet if he was asked to turn around and point out which President is which he would get 2 out of 4, maybe.

George Washington, Jefferson Davis, John Wilkes Booth, Abe Lincoln 

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1 hour ago, Superhero said:

The Dems seem to have a different idea of how to go after bunker boy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/02/democrats-ads-trump-341903

 

TLDR; Dems still taking the high road and won't go for the jugular. Guess the Lincoln Project, Vote Vets and MeidasTouch will have to do the dirty work.

rvat has been solid.

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15 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Did he really?

MLK is the go to for republicans to “prove” they aren’t racist. 

Unless they're reminding everyone that Lincoln was a Republican and the Democrats were pro-slavery

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I can’t find the post but the one that said trump is maneuvering himself to stay in the office even if he loses is starting to circulate globally.

if he does this I will give all of my students an automatic A and go to DC to protests/riot

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I think this is generally true. The hottest girls in high school in general eventually get fat. The quietly attractive girls get even better with age. 

Yep. The ones built like twigs in HS ended up being the the attractive 40-somethings. The girls built like women ended up being dump trucks at 40.
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6 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

That list isn’t real, no way it is real. 

I hope the Chinese company that provided the Co-Op statues will get the contract for the Garden of American Heroes. 

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