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Maybe I’m an idiot but wouldn’t depressing voting by mail hurt trump and the GOP more than the dems? Specifically among the olds and rurals in Arizona, Florida and Wisconsin?  Am I missing something here? 

There was an Emerson poll conducted recently that showed a gargantuan split in voting intention based on the intent to vote in person and via the mail. 

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There was an Emerson poll conducted recently that showed a gargantuan split in voting intention based on the intent to vote in person and via the mail. 

You do realize there is a difference between voter intention and voter reality right? 
 

Or I guess maybe not. 

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You do realize there is a difference between voter intention and voter reality right? 
 

Or I guess maybe not. 

I’m not predicting that this is actually going to happen. I’m just saying that it’s interesting. The fact that Trump is pursuing this strategy makes me think his team has additional evidence that suppressing mail in voting helps him. Whether it will work, who knows but probably not. 

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A cucking of awe inspiring proportions. Dem leadership would be upset for a week and then return to being the subs that they are. 

I think it would be out of their hands. Citizens got behind BLM over the police murder of a man in broad daylight in front of protesting citizens. The murder of the republic altogether will lead to bigger involvement.

I want to see a national strike. I want to see mobs (in masks) blocking traffic everywhere and choking movement altogether in DC. 

There will be a roll call of which members of Congress join the crowds and which ones don't. 

The cosplay Balaclava-ed commandos with their ARs will either put up or shut up. I wouldn't weep to see them act and then be torn limb from limb. Think of the idiot with the bow and arrow only more fun.

Then we get to see where the Army and the National Guard stand. If they stand with those giving orders, then I hope they face a rain of bananas as they hose down protesters with tear gas, water cannon, and machine gun fire.

Let it not end with a whimper.

Hilarious? For those like Mencken who saw it coming and nihilists who like to see good things end.

I'll withhold my emotional action until the time comes. I never expected any of this. I have no pre-loaded response for hilarity.

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1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

I’m not predicting that this is actually going to happen. I’m just saying that it’s interesting. The fact that Trump is pursuing this strategy makes me think his team has additional evidence that suppressing mail in voting helps him. Whether it will work, who knows but probably not. 

If team trump thinks it will work that most assuredly means it will not. Pay attention to the last 4 years if you need any proof of that. 

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I think it would be out of their hands. Citizens got behind BLM over the police murder of a man in broad daylight in front of protesting citizens. The murder of the republic altogether will lead to bigger involvement.

I want to see a national strike. I want to see mobs (in masks) blocking traffic everywhere and choking movement altogether in DC. 

There will be a roll call of which members of Congress join the crowds and which ones don't. 

The cosplay Balaclava-ed commandos with their ARs will either put up or shut up. I wouldn't weep to see them act and then be torn limb from limb. Think of the idiot with the bow and arrow only more fun.

Then we get to see where the Army and the National Guard stand. If they stand with those giving orders, then I hope they face a rain of bananas as they hose down protesters with tear gas, water cannon, and machine gun fire.

Let it not end with a whimper.

Hilarious? For those like Mencken who saw it coming and nihilists who like to see good things end.

I'll withhold my emotional action until the time comes. I never expected any of this. I have no pre-loaded response for hilarity.

There would be protests - but like the BLM protests or the pussy hat protests, they wouldn’t accomplish anything. Protests alone don’t do anything. There has to be an organized opposition, kind of like what we had with the socialist parties and trade unions in the early 20th century. Those things don’t exist anymore and aren’t going to exist for the foreseeable future.  

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There would be protests - but like the BLM protests or the pussy hat protests, they wouldn’t accomplish anything. Protests alone don’t do anything. There has to be an organized opposition, kind of like what we had with the socialist parties and trade unions in the early 20th century. Those things don’t exist anymore and aren’t going to exist for the foreseeable future.  

I think you're too pessimistic and I'm possibly too optimistic. 

I don't see universally tame response. I see someone like AOC and/or other voices to take the lead if the usual Dem suspects dither. Pelosi and Warren showed up outside the White House. Adam Schiff shows all the signs of a great leader of principle.

The actual instruments of force (military and law "enforcement") may likely decide the balance. Then there's Blackwater Trumps Ice goons.

There will be blood and chaos. How it ends? Haven't a clue.

But maybe you're right and everybody will cower in their condos muttering, "Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone. "

We enter the Howard Beal faze. Network is a movie that actually becomes more relevant and prophetic every goddamn day.

 

 

Faye Dunaway looks better everytime you watch it, too.

If I could seize the TV stations, I'd just constantly rebroadcast Network and A Face in the Crowd.

 

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The "would-wouldn't" crowd could debate the relative merits of the immortal Lee Remick and Patricia Neal.

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I think you're too pessimistic and I'm possibly too optimistic. 

I don't see universally tame response. I see someone like AOC and/or other voices to take the lead if the usual Dem suspects dither. Pelosi and Warren showed up outside the White House. Adam Schiff shows all the signs of a great leader of principle.

The actual instruments of force (military and law "enforcement") may likely decide the balance. Then there's Blackwater Trumps Ice goons.

There will be blood and chaos. How it ends? Haven't a clue.

But maybe you're right and everybody will cower in their condos muttering, "Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone. "

We enter the Howard Beal faze. Network is a movie that actually becomes more relevant and prophetic every goddamn day.

 

 

Faye Dunaway looks better everytime you watch it, too.

If I could seize the TV stations, I'd just constantly rebroadcast Network and A Face in the Crowd.

 

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The "would-wouldn't" crowd could debate the relative merits of the immortal Lee Remick and Patricia Neal.

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I don’t know what any of this means. 

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2 hours ago, Lobo said:

Alright, Trumpers...here we go...not saying Biden hasn't mistaken a state for another over the years but listen to the point your God-King is trying to make.  This is verbatim, not selective editing:

"And the worst is when he's in, like, Indiana.  And he says, 'It's great to be with the people of Florida.'  And you have palm trees all over." 

So let's break that down since you guys are smarter than non-Trumpers.  So does that mean that Biden is actually in Indiana, but thought he was in Florida?  Then how does that explain the palm trees in Trump's scenario since Indiana doesn't have palm trees?  Does that mean that because he sees palm trees, indicative of Florida, that Biden mistakes it for Indiana?  Does Biden think Indiana has palm trees?  Which is it?  Because it you just read it word for word, anybody who can spot an elephant can tell that Trump wants to suggest Biden said he was with the people of Florida, but was actually in the state of Indiana, despite their being abundant palm trees visible to Biden.  

"And the worst is when he's in, like, Indiana.  And he says, 'It's great to be with the people of Florida.'  And you have palm trees all over."

That's one of the most insane things ever said from behind that Presidential Seal.  And somehow you dumb fucking worshippers will walk away saying, 'Yeah, Biden's going senile...doesn't even know when he's in Indiana.'  For a guy that lives in Florida, that Trump thinks the palm trees are indicative of the time Biden was really in Indiana losing his memory...and you guys think you won the day...holy shit.  How do you guys talk to your children?  

 

This is what you tell your kids.  I thought we answered this back on shaggy?

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I’m not predicting that this is actually going to happen. I’m just saying that it’s interesting. The fact that Trump is pursuing this strategy makes me think his team has additional evidence that suppressing mail in voting helps him. Whether it will work, who knows but probably not. 

I think its time to stop attributing words like "strategy" and "plan" to anything Trump says

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Let me preface this by saying that I still think there is not enough empirical evidence to suggest that everybody will forsake unemployment insurance in favor of a lower paycheck.  But having said that, Trump said this an official event?  Da fuh?

"$400 is more than the $600 that was originally agreed."  

I mean, I know we hate China and the Middle East right now...but is the middle of a pandemic the best time to abandon maths and arabic number arithmetic?  

Also, anybody else notice he's holding his nomination acceptance speech at the White House, holding his Covid-19 press conferences in New Jersey, and holding his national security briefings at the Whirlpool factory in Ohio?  I mean, that makes perfect sense, right?  

I know I interview for my new job at my old office, I discuss my family's health at sporting goods stores instead of the doctor's office, and I have my most sensitive and deepest conversations in the appliance section of Best Buy.  that's how you look like a fucking leader bitches!

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I'm starting to agree with Brisket that we are a failed state.  In my neck of the woods, the local bulletin board is thrilled as a pig in shit with the EOs today.

I posited whether this was dictator like and many have chimed in that it is and they are FUCKING OK with it.

We're done.  It was a nice 230 year ride. 

Park's closed.  Moose out front shoulda told ya.

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The Trump era has exposed what was always hiding under the facade of the GOP. They don’t care about the country or people. They care about winning. I’ve watched principled conservatives who decried anytime Obama did an EO act like it’s not big deal that Trump does them now. They simply only care about holding onto power. Look at Lindsey Graham. Look at Turtle. I really hope November 2020 is a reckoning.

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I'm starting to agree with Brisket that we are a failed state.  In my neck of the woods, the local bulletin board is thrilled as a pig in shit with the EOs today.
I posited whether this was dictator like and many have chimed in that it is and they are FUCKING OK with it.
We're done.  It was a nice 230 year ride. 
Park's closed.  Moose out front shoulda told ya.

The Trump era has exposed what was always hiding under the facade of the GOP. They don’t care about the country or people. They care about winning. I’ve watched principled conservatives who decried anytime Obama did an EO act like it’s not big deal that Trump does them now. They simply only care about holding onto power. Look at Lindsey Graham. Look at Turtle. I really hope November 2020 is a reckoning.

Y’all are getting it more and more. And I’m sorry, because the truth is horrific.

The right in this country WANTS us to be a fascist authoritarian state. It’s not subtle, or ambiguous. If the senate tomorrow declared that trump was a living god, and thus will be president for life, and trump sealed it with an EO, they would die from pure ecstasy.

The approach of the right is completely incompatible with a functioning, continuing republic. And they are never going away. There’s no fixing this. We’re done. The best we can do is delay the inevitable.
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It's a really long read, but a good one...

Rolling Stone - The Unraveling of America

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COVID-19 didn’t lay America low; it simply revealed what had long been forsaken. As the crisis unfolded, with another American dying every minute of every day, a country that once turned out fighter planes by the hour could not manage to produce the paper masks or cotton swabs essential for tracking the disease. The nation that defeated smallpox and polio, and led the world for generations in medical innovation and discovery, was reduced to a laughing stock as a buffoon of a president advocated the use of household disinfectants as a treatment for a disease that intellectually he could not begin to understand.

As a number of countries moved expeditiously to contain the virus, the United States stumbled along in denial, as if willfully blind. With less than four percent of the global population, the U.S. soon accounted for more than a fifth of COVID deaths. The percentage of American victims of the disease who died was six times the global average. Achieving the world’s highest rate of morbidity and mortality provoked not shame, but only further lies, scapegoating, and boasts of miracle cures as dubious as the claims of a carnival barker, a grifter on the make.

As the United States responded to the crisis like a corrupt tin pot dictatorship, the actual tin pot dictators of the world took the opportunity to seize the high ground, relishing a rare sense of moral superiority, especially in the wake of the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis. The autocratic leader of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, chastised America for “maliciously violating ordinary citizens’ rights.” North Korean newspapers objected to “police brutality” in America. Quoted in the Iranian press, Ayatollah Khomeini gloated, “America has begun the process of its own destruction.”

Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong. When an American official raised the issue of human rights on Twitter, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson, invoking the killing of George Floyd, responded with one short phrase, “I can’t breathe.”

These politically motivated remarks may be easy to dismiss. But Americans have not done themselves any favors. Their political process made possible the ascendancy to the highest office in the land a national disgrace, a demagogue as morally and ethically compromised as a person can be. As a British writer quipped, “there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid”.

The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055. If America’s first president, George Washington, famously could not tell a lie, the current one can’t recognize the truth. Inverting the words and sentiments of Abraham Lincoln, this dark troll of a man celebrates malice for all, and charity for none.

Odious as he may be, Trump is less the cause of America’s decline than a product of its descent. As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom. In a land that once welcomed the huddled masses of the world, more people today favor building a wall along the southern border than supporting health care and protection for the undocumented mothers and children arriving in desperation at its doors. In a complete abandonment of the collective good, U.S. laws define freedom as an individual’s inalienable right to own a personal arsenal of weaponry, a natural entitlement that trumps even the safety of children; in the past decade alone 346 American students and teachers have been shot on school grounds.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.

How can the rest of the world expect America to lead on global threats — climate change, the extinction crisis, pandemics — when the country no longer has a sense of benign purpose, or collective well-being, even within its own national community? Flag-wrapped patriotism is no substitute for compassion; anger and hostility no match for love. Those who flock to beaches, bars, and political rallies, putting their fellow citizens at risk, are not exercising freedom; they are displaying, as one commentator has noted, the weakness of a people who lack both the stoicism to endure the pandemic and the fortitude to defeat it. Leading their charge is Donald Trump, a bone spur warrior, a liar and a fraud, a grotesque caricature of a strong man, with the backbone of a bully.

 

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