Donald Trump 2020

[kevwun 15595]

Modi wants to deport all of India's muslim population in case you where wondering why Trump likes him so much.

[PHLaggie 110]

8 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Modi wants to deport all of India's muslim population in case you where wondering why Trump likes him so much.

did you learn that from last night's Last Week Tonight?

lol

[High Plains Drifter 10970]

On 2/21/2020 at 7:38 PM, Biff Tannen said:

Well that will make me sleep well tonight.

 

As some rando on the internet, I suggest you drink heavily.

[kevwun 15595]

10 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

did you learn that from last night's Last Week Tonight?

lol

I sure did. You can go ahead and refute it now if you want.  I'm sure Modi is just a misunderstood nationalist like all of Trump's aspiring dictator pals.

Edited February 24, 2020 by kevwun

[PHLaggie 110]

5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I sure did. You can go ahead and refute it now if you want.  I'm sure Modi is just a misunderstood nationalist like all of Trump's aspiring dictator pals.

what's the point of trying to tell anything to someone when they're trying to build their liberal bona fides on the backs of some country's internal issues that they have next to zero clue about?  If you're actually open to being educated, that's a different matter.

 

Edited February 24, 2020 by PHLaggie

[kevwun 15595]

Educate me.  I like learning new things.

[DixonHur 11074]

59 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

For a more serious take on U.S.-India relations, the trade issues and where they stand, and strategic issues, and where China fits in on this stuff (Trump already made a big swipe at China in his speech at the stadium).

 

Ok, I was the sucker who actually read the thread, but I couldn't find the point, other than countries with high tariffs seem to have the worst economies, and that as our tariffs decreased, our economy grew.

And who the fuck cares about our trade deficit? As has been pointed out ad nauseum, trade deficits aren't inherently bad.  I have a big trade deficit with the grocery store, but we both get what we want out of the deal.

Oh, and I learned that Trump and the GOP are all of the sudden against free-trade and a market economy.

Edited February 24, 2020 by DixonHur

[Brisketexan 104462]

15 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

what's the point of trying to tell anything to someone when they're trying to build their liberal bona fides on the backs of some country's internal issues that they have next to zero clue about?  If you're actually open to being educated, that's a different matter.

 

While most Americans don't much pay attention to India's internal politics, the past several years haven't exactly been a secret, if you read any publications of global scope and reach.  Modi's and the BJP's lurch towards Hindu nationalism, now that he's run through his menu of economic reforms and the like, and doesn't have many other big-ticket policies to deploy, is quite out there in the open.  Hell, here's just a little summary of one action from Time:

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Then came the decision to implement a National Register of Citizens (NRC) in the state of Assam to identify any residents who arrived in India after Bangladesh’s civil war commenced in 1971. Nearly 2 million people have lost their citizenship as a result of this new register; of them, 1.2 million were found to be Hindus, which helped prompt the BJP’s efforts to push forward this week’s passage of a law providing a fast-track lane to citizenship to immigrants from neighboring countries—as long as they are not Muslims. For the Muslims who lost citizenship thanks to the NRC, the government is building detention centers to house these newly stateless people. (While the BJP has insisted illegal Muslim immigrants will be deported, Bangladesh is unlikely to accept them.)

Nevermind the surge in Hindu nationalist violence against muslims (and even people mistakenly believed to be muslim).

India is far from alone in resorting to predictable nationalist bullshit to bolster populist support, but that's not any excuse.

[wildcat09 29187]

Brisket, why are you trying to explain something to an aggy?

[Brisketexan 104462]

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Brisket, why are you trying to explain something to an aggy?

Should I have used metaphors involving non-consensual encounters with sheep and burning desire and jizz jars and such?

[WBT 20397]

16 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Oh, and I learned that Trump and the GOP are all of the sudden against free-trade and a market economy.

All of a sudden?  Trump's been that way for a long while.  The GOP started about 4 years ago.

[Continental Op 3934]

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

if you read any publications of global scope and reach.  

But Brisket what you don't understand is that those publications are just "news" (note the scare quotes!!!) and some dude on Twitter without a blue checkmark is where you need to go to get the real scoop.  

[PHLaggie 110]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

While most Americans don't much pay attention to India's internal politics, the past several years haven't exactly been a secret, if you read any publications of global scope and reach.  Modi's and the BJP's lurch towards Hindu nationalism, now that he's run through his menu of economic reforms and the like, and doesn't have many other big-ticket policies to deploy, is quite out there in the open.  Hell, here's just a little summary of one action from Time:

Nevermind the surge in Hindu nationalist violence against muslims (and even people mistakenly believed to be muslim).

India is far from alone in resorting to predictable nationalist bullshit to bolster populist support, but that's not any excuse.

that Time piece is written by who? 

so what if he is "Hindu nationalist"? Nobody calls Obama or Trump "Christian nationalists" simply for following their agenda. It's a hollow term that once you actually get into the nitty gritty, means little to nothing. India is a Hindu civilization and a nation of Hindus. Its constitution, on the other hand, is an anti-majority apartheid constitution and several significant parts of it were amended by Indira Gandhi during the 1975-77 "National Emergency" despotic rule. 

So unless yo know more about it, you're basically going by the bias inherent in much of India reporting: either an Islamist bias, or a Left-Liberal bias, or a Christian-persecution bias. 

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

*whom

[tx 3 putt 76158]

Indians sure love them some Trump 

[RomaVicta 29756]

4 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

that Time piece is written by who? 

so what if he is "Hindu nationalist"? Nobody calls Obama or Trump "Christian nationalists" simply for following their agenda. It's a hollow term that once you actually get into the nitty gritty, means little to nothing. India is a Hindu civilization and a nation of Hindus. Its constitution, on the other hand, is an anti-majority apartheid constitution and several significant parts of it were amended by Indira Gandhi during the 1975-77 "National Emergency" despotic rule. 

So unless yo know more about it, you're basically going by the bias inherent in much of India reporting: either an Islamist bias, or a Left-Liberal bias, or a Christian-persecution bias. 

Is the concept of minority rights "anti majority apartheid?"

Asking for a brown friend.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11796]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

Indians sure love them some Trump 

[Brisketexan 104462]

4 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

so what if he is "Hindu nationalist"? Nobody calls Obama or Trump "Christian nationalists" simply for following their agenda.

So what?  Well, that's the thing -- it means he's a fucking nationalist, to the detriment of minority populations.

Nobody's calling him a "nationalist" for "following his agenda" -- presuming that you're speaking of a generic economic agenda etc.  We're calling him a nationalist because...well, he's a nationalist.  Who gives a fuck who wrote the Time piece?  It's what happened -- I read a similar piece in the Economist as well.  Purged citizens, then allowed accelerated re-admission for Hindus, but not for Muslims.

"Bias?"  I mean, that's literally what he's fucking done.  What's biased about stating the facts?  And of course, it's not like these same outlets (e.g., Time and the Economist) haven't reported thoroughly on muslim violence in India - the Mumbai attacks got huge, detailed coverage, for example.

[PHLaggie 110]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Educate me.  I like learning new things.

Where do begin? If we're going by last night's show, he left out the details that aren't convenient to his set narrative.  Details, such as the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) is indeed geared towards 6 minorities of 3 neighboring Islamic countries with historical population and cultural connections to present-day India. The CAA excludes Muslims because of the historical facts, because the 6 minorities are the ones affected in Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan.  The Muslims from these 3 Islamic countries aren't barred from coming to India or even seeking asylum in India; in fact, a famous Bollywood signer (Adnan Sami) did just that--and the current BJP government even conferred him one of the highest civilian awards (Padma Bhushan) this past Republic Day. But the CAA is geared towards those religious minorities that have historically faced persecution in Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan-- and who already are in India by their tens of thousands, but who still don't have Indian citizenship.

He failed to mention that the cut-off for the CAA for the 6 minorities of the 3 islamic countries is set by that law at December 31, 2014. Meaning, you would have already had to have come into India illegally from these 3 Islamic countries. And if you're a Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Parsi, Jain, or Buddhist, then if you have already lived in India for 5 years, then you are eligible for Indian citizenship.  The law is for those who fled religious persecution in their erstwhile homelands which are now overrun by Islamists.  It has nothing to do with existing Indian citizens of any religion. It is a legal remedy for the tens of thousands of mainly Hindus but also Sikhs, Buddhists, and Christians and Jains who fled the creation of Bangladesh in 1971 and the many subsequent porgroms against these people by Islamists in west Pakistan and east Pakistan; Afthanistan was also included because of the historical population of Sikhs and Buddhists and Hindus there that have faced harsh attacks on them by Taliban.  For these people, India is the only and natural refuge and homeland. And the current government has finally moved legislation to provide them legal papers for their citizenship after they having lived already in India for decades.  It eases the life somewhat for these people, without taking away any rights of anyone else.

He failed to mention that U.S. too has exactly such a citizenship law geared towards a selected set of religious minorities that faced historical persecution in the Former Soviet Union, and then expanded that law to cover a set of religious minorities in Iran-- but mostly varieties of Christians.  That law is called Lautenberg Amendment of 1989. And it doesn't list, for example, Hindus facing persecution in Russia. So is it discriminatory? The same way, the CAA is.

He also then jumps to the National Register of Citizens (NRC). Which hasn't even been put in the national parliament as a bill yet, nevermind talking about it as if it's already the law.  He conveniently quotes Amit Shah from one of his election rallies-- if we start quoting boisterous Indian politicians at their rallies, The American Leftist love affair with Isalmists might get chagrined. For example, many Islamic leaders in that same election last year talked about Islamic power, about how Islam ruled over Hindus for 800 years and they are rightful owners and will rule again. Is that provocative? You bet. But Time Magazine's Atish Taseer (A Muslim himself) will never quote that in his reportage!

The NRC that took place in one northeastern state bordering Bangladesh was part of the 1985 Assam Accords which Indian national government signed with the student movement of Assam back then; the Assamese have been agitating against massive population infiltration of illegal Bangladeshis to the point of taking up arms and leading Assam into open bloodshed. The NRC in Assam was one of the requirements of the Assam Accord, which all previous national governments kept putting off for their own vote-bank politics and narrow interests. The Supreme Court of Indian finally, from 2012 litigation onward, insisted that the NRC exercise begin and be completed in a time-bound fashion. The BJP government simply followed that Supreme Court order. The result has been about 1.8 million people have been found to have been illegals. Most Indians laugh at how small that number is, knowing full well that the number of illegal Bangladeshis residing in India, with fully faked out voter i.d., ration cards, etc is likely in tens of millions. Now, you may believe in open borders or what have you, but don't let that color how you see the economic and cultural migrations affecting demographics of Northeast India.  Assam, as it so happens, was eyed by Pakistan Movement in the early 1940s and they have never been happy that Assam ended up in India, except for the Sylhet district which voted to joining East Pakistan (later to become Bangladesh in 1971).

Assamese, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, and of dozens of various tribes, all support NRC and the keeping of Assamese identity intact.

Therefore, the CAA has a cut-off of 2014. The NRC for nationwide enumeration hasn't even been tabled in parliament yet; nobody knows what type of paperwork it will require. And in any case, the two are totally separate exercises.

There is much more on this that can be written.

 

Edited February 24, 2020 by PHLaggie

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

20 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Indians sure love them some Trump 

 

17 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Dot, not feather. 

[PHLaggie 110]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

While most Americans don't much pay attention to India's internal politics, the past several years haven't exactly been a secret, if you read any publications of global scope and reach.  Modi's and the BJP's lurch towards Hindu nationalism, now that he's run through his menu of economic reforms and the like, and doesn't have many other big-ticket policies to deploy, is quite out there in the open.  Hell, here's just a little summary of one action from Time:

Nevermind the surge in Hindu nationalist violence against muslims (and even people mistakenly believed to be muslim).

India is far from alone in resorting to predictable nationalist bullshit to bolster populist support, but that's not any excuse.

Share us the news reporting of the surge of violence against Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists in Pakistan and Bangladesh. I'll wait. These are joined at the hips. India's "Muslim problem" is a historical artifact that can't be wished away. The Islamic separatism isn't a myth, and surely America is in for interesting times down the road too, just let population-jihad work its way. Unless moderates within Islamic groups don't take it up against their Islamist brethren, it's not going to get any easier. Many parts of Europe already seeing this, and therefore also seeing the normal backlash to it.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11796]

8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

 

<stephen>Dot dot dot, dot dot dot dot, not feather. <colbert>

FIFY.

[Dnaguy 11740]

8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

 

Dot, not feather. 

 

 

[Brisketexan 104462]

1 minute ago, PHLaggie said:

Share us the news reporting of the surge of violence against Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists in Pakistan and Bangladesh. I'll wait.

Pick up a copy of the Economist.  Seriously.  It's covered various episodes of islamist sectarian violence in both Bangladesh and Pakistan extensively.  And of course, you're simply employing a "tu quoque" logical fallacy.  When an islamist mob murders a christian, that's detrimental to a functioning civil society.  When a hindu mob murders a muslim, that's detrimental to a functioning civil society.

Oh, and I get to see separatism work right here at home, thanks very much.  I get to hear Republican elected officials shout about how my kinfolks in Texas should speak only English (nevermind the fact that Spanish was the first European language spoken in the US, including in Texas), etc.  And folks with messican last names get tossed in the can on ICE detainers even though they're citizens.  And brown folks get subjected to immigration searches at checkpoints and such, etc.

Come on, man.  You're not even original.  You're just spouting the same old garden variety nationalist bullshit we've heard a thousand times before, bolstered with the same lazy fallacies (attacking the messenger (like Time and the Economist are lying?), tu quoque cuz muslims do bad shit).  You're not acquitting yourself particularly well here.

[elfenix 34167]

10 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

 

Dot, Italian american, not feather. 

 

[tx 3 putt 76158]

Modi needed this visit much more than Trump, I wonder what he gave up to pull this off 

[PHLaggie 110]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Pick up a copy of the Economist.  Seriously.  It's covered various episodes of islamist sectarian violence in both Bangladesh and Pakistan extensively.  And of course, you're simply employing a "tu quoque" logical fallacy.  When an islamist mob murders a christian, that's detrimental to a functioning civil society.  When a hindu mob murders a muslim, that's detrimental to a functioning civil society.

Oh, and I get to see separatism work right here at home, thanks very much.  I get to hear Republican elected officials shout about how my kinfolks in Texas should speak only English (nevermind the fact that Spanish was the first European language spoken in the US, including in Texas), etc.  And folks with messican last names get tossed in the can on ICE detainers even though they're citizens.  And brown folks get subjected to immigration searches at checkpoints and such, etc.

Come on, man.  You're not even original.  You're just spouting the same old garden variety nationalist bullshit we've heard a thousand times before, bolstered with the same lazy fallacies (attacking the messenger (like Time and the Economist are lying?), tu quoque cuz muslims do bad shit).  You're not acquitting yourself particularly well here.

So you're not a nationalist. that's fine.

But don't impost Mexican/Texian identity lens on India, in that case. Or don't turn it into same-same monkey balancing argument. That's not what I am saying.  India is a constitutional republic that guarantees freedom of religion for everyone, implicit in that is also the matter of saving Hindus from messianic fundamentalist missionary book religions.  If you're going to compare Texas/Spanish, then the more apt comparison would be for Hindus of Sindh and Buddhists and Shivites of Kashmir to take back what is theirs, which was forcibly taken away from them by Islamist Urdu speakers.  As it is, the Hindus are fighting a battle just to survive within a truncated India post-1947.

 

[wildcat09 29187]

I'm eagerly awaiting the aggy's data dump on why white genocide is real.

[Brisketexan 104462]

Just now, PHLaggie said:

As it is, the Hindus are fighting a battle just to survive within a truncated India post-1947.

Are you seriously arguing that Hindus in [checks notes] INDIA are at existential risk?  For real?

[PHLaggie 110]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Modi needed this visit much more than Trump, I wonder what he gave up to pull this off 

Why do you say that? He just won a bigger national election than his earlier victory in 2013.

India did push for a smaller trade deal but U.S. side held off. Maybe because America is getting what it wants piecemeal anyway, especially in the strategic/defense sectors, with India signing up for billions in new deals for helicopters, howitzers, etc.

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Modi needed this visit much more than Trump, I wonder what he gave up to pull this off 

A compliment, maybe a nice letter. 

[PHLaggie 110]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

Are you seriously arguing that Hindus in [checks notes] INDIA are at existential risk?  For real?

Do you know how India actually works, or you base you insights on what you read in The Economist rag?

Do you know how Indian constitution treats Hindu endowments, Hindu places of worship, Hindu schools? especially as opposed to how it treats Muslim and Christian versions of the same?

Do you know the Hindu population impacted by Islamist violence in border districts of West Bengal, or that of Kerala and Kashmir states? Perhaps you know that entire districts in parts of India have newly been converted to Christianity via the Joshua Project. 5 of the 7 northeastern Indian states are already Christian-majority, and the Baptist church has funded separatists in Nagaland and Tripura for a few decades now?

[elfenix 34167]

On 2/23/2020 at 10:07 AM, 4th&Five said:

They better not let him close to the Taj Mahal. He’s already bankrupted it once twice. 

ftfy

[PHLaggie 110]

48 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Is the concept of minority rights "anti majority apartheid?"

Asking for a brown friend.

Do "minority rights" include legal Islamic polygamy, the Islamic "instant divorce" with no alimony, the insistence on running parallel sharia courts? More importantly, do "minority rights" mean that majority's places of worship be legally controlled by state governments, their revenues and donations become part of state treasury to be used for welfare as they see fit? Does it mean majority's educational institutions must take quotas on teachers and students from all religions but the minority institutions can legally discriminate on who they take, even though they get government funding?

 

Edited February 24, 2020 by PHLaggie

[DDD Dad 14167]

1 minute ago, PHLaggie said:

Do "minority rights" include legal Islamic polygamy, the Islamic "instant divorce" with no alimony, the insistence on running parallel sharia courts? More importantly, do "minority rights" mean that majority's places of worship be legally controlled by state governments, their revenues and donations become part of state treasury to be used for welfare as they see fit? Does it mean majority's educational institutions must take quotas on teachers and students from all religions but the minority institutions can legally discriminate on who they take, even though they get government funding?

 

Anti-muslim Indian nationalism talk not going away.

[PHLaggie 110]

14 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I'm eagerly awaiting the aggy's data dump on why white genocide is real.

why would i care about that topic at all? unlike you, i actually have an ability to see nuance in different parts of the world and their peculiar circumstances and histories and present status quo.

[PHLaggie 110]

2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Anti-muslim Indian nationalism talk not going away.

leftist insistence of viewing every thing from an Islamist-grievance prism not going away.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33824]

why are you here?

[Continental Op 3934]

Iconoclast Aggy?

[PHLaggie 110]

btw, independent statistics show that Indian-American favor Democrats by close to 80% margin. Same was true for British-Indians, until recently, when Jeremy Corbyn decided that Labour will love Islamist story over everything else.  Maybe the diaspora in America too will start to turn away from the Democrats.  Just like Tories have been unsavory for a long time, Republicans too have been unlikable for most Indian-Americans. But maybe the ground is shifting ever so slightly. Especially with the "progressive" wing of Democrats going full mental with hijabi types and canned Islamist apologia.

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

24 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

Do you know how India actually works, or you base you insights on what you read in The Economist rag?

Do you know how Indian constitution treats Hindu endowments, Hindu places of worship, Hindu schools? especially as opposed to how it treats Muslim and Christian versions of the same?

Do you know the Hindu population impacted by Islamist violence in border districts of West Bengal, or that of Kerala and Kashmir states? Perhaps you know that entire districts in parts of India have newly been converted to Christianity via the Joshua Project. 5 of the 7 northeastern Indian states are already Christian-majority, and the Baptist church has funded separatists in Nagaland and Tripura for a few decades now?

Let me guess, you think the Earth is 6,000 years old. 

[Brisketexan 104462]

4 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

btw, independent statistics show that Indian-American favor Democrats by close to 80% margin. Same was true for British-Indians, until recently, when Jeremy Corbyn decided that Labour will love Islamist story over everything else.  Maybe the diaspora in America too will start to turn away from the Democrats.  Just like Tories have been unsavory for a long time, Republicans too have been unlikable for most Indian-Americans. But maybe the ground is shifting ever so slightly. Especially with the "progressive" wing of Democrats going full mental with hijabi types and canned Islamist apologia.

I gotta say, I do find it fascinating that anyone who simply stands for the proposition of uniform religious freedom and protection - regardless of the faith at issue (islam is just a hot topic because it's the currently demonized faith in the US these days) -- is "full mental."  I don't want to see someone harassed or beaten up because they are wearing religious attire -- whether that be a crucifix necklace, a yarmulke, or a hijab.  But in phlaggie world, anything less than treating muslims WORSE than members of majority faiths is actually favoritism.  I mean, you're not alone -- your white nationalist brothers in arms will surely welcome you to the party (I mean, once they figure out you're one of them "good" brown ones).

[jimmyjazz 45512]

15 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

why would i care about that topic at all? unlike you, i actually have an ability to see nuance in different parts of the world and their peculiar circumstances and histories and present status quo.

As far as I can tell, you lack any ability to see nuance in the United States.

[PHLaggie 110]

2 hours ago, DixonHur said:

Ok, I was the sucker who actually read the thread, but I couldn't find the point, other than countries with high tariffs seem to have the worst economies, and that as our tariffs decreased, our economy grew.

And who the fuck cares about our trade deficit? As has been pointed out ad nauseum, trade deficits aren't inherently bad.  I have a big trade deficit with the grocery store, but we both get what we want out of the deal.

Oh, and I learned that Trump and the GOP are all of the sudden against free-trade and a market economy.

may be globalized free trade isn't all that its cracked up to be.  there are winners, sure, and then there are losers too and the losers also get to vote.

and then there's this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2020-02-21/coronavirus-forces-a-rethinking-of-supply-chains

[PHLaggie 110]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

As far as I can tell, you lack any ability to see nuance in the United States.

I've not written much, if anything, about the United States on this board or in this tread. So I'm not sure what you'd be basing that comment off of.

[PHLaggie 110]

13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I gotta say, I do find it fascinating that anyone who simply stands for the proposition of uniform religious freedom and protection - regardless of the faith at issue (islam is just a hot topic because it's the currently demonized faith in the US these days) -- is "full mental."  I don't want to see someone harassed or beaten up because they are wearing religious attire -- whether that be a crucifix necklace, a yarmulke, or a hijab.  But in phlaggie world, anything less than treating muslims WORSE than members of majority faiths is actually favoritism.  I mean, you're not alone -- your white nationalist brothers in arms will surely welcome you to the party (I mean, once they figure out you're one of them "good" brown ones).

That's your take on what I think.  Because you want to fit me into your narrative of reality. 

Apparently my references went way over your head, either because you're not following what's happening in Indian-American communities and the religious politics being played out, or you're feigning ignorance. On Kashmir and on CAA, the progressive wing of Democrats have been haranguing Hindus and India in an almost rabid and Islamist way; turns out, when you look deeper, their constituencies and their circles are full of Islamist people, so it's not a surprise that they would take such stances.  The resultant alienation of Hindus in America towards Democrats will be natural.

For me, personally, I would want nothing more than complete religious freedom and equality. And yet, we see that conservative Jews run patrols in parts of NYC. and now, so do Muslims. We may soon see Sharia Patrols similar to the ones in British cities; maybe bearded fellows will tell white women to cover up or to not walk in front of a mosque anymore.  These are talking points from a freedom absolutest like Christopher Hitchens, who spoke openly against imposition of "Islamophobia" by the Left.

 

Edited February 24, 2020 by PHLaggie

[jimmyjazz 45512]

7 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

I've not written much, if anything, about the United States on this board or in this tread. So I'm not sure what you'd be basing that comment off of.

You've scolded "liberals" for imposing their Texan/Mexican bias on the world, among other things.  You've also said we're heading down a similar "population jihad" road.  

[hayden_horn 11360]

42 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

Do you know how India actually works, or you base you insights on what you read in The Economist rag?

economist rag?

the fuck is this guy?:

[PHLaggie 110]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You've scolded "liberals" for imposing their Texan/Mexican bias on the world, among other things.  You've also said we're heading down a similar "population jihad" road.  

population jihad, population bomb. it's up to you to notice, or not.  Indian decadal statistics have shown that the rate of Muslim population growth far outstrips all others, and this certainly has a noticeable impact in all sorts of social economy of an area, state, country.  You not noticing it won't make it go away, because its dynamics have been playing out for a long time.

I said don't bring your predisposed idea of Mexian identity onto an Indian identity conversation; the two are different. That doesn't make me anything other than a realist.

Edited February 24, 2020 by PHLaggie

[Chad Fuck 17503]

Just now, hayden_horn said:

economist rag?

the fuck is this guy?:

Haven't you noticed it's troll season?  Every couple of years, come election, people come out of nowhere to suck the air out of threads.  

Donald Trump 2020 thread?  Nope.  Now this is a Muslims are the worst for India and all the liberuls love them some Islamofascists! thread.  

See y'all in spring 2022!