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As Herman has said in previous media availabilities, the increased time spent with family is a silver lining with this stoppage.

During the fall, Tom wakes at 5:30 AM, leaves at 6, and doesn't get back until 10-10:30 PM. The only time he sees his kids awake during that time is Saturday nights.

The Hermans are up to nine consecutive family dinners together. Family game nights follow - UNO, Life, Monopoly, ping-pong tournaments, cornhole tournaments, you name it. Sometimes movie nights.

Recently, they all watched the full 3.5 hours of Gandhi, for a school assignment for his son TD. Herman is a Ben Kingsley fan.

Someone asked what Michelle was cooking - "She don't cook much," he jokes. Herman mentioned that he put a steak on the grill last night, along withEarl Campbell hot links.

Herman jumped into 4 or 5 position meetings this morning on Zoom to check in on players. He spends some time going over team meeting schedules (covered in his interview with Craig Way earlier this week).

Morning is consumed from 7/8 AM to noon with football, and the afternoon is for recruiting.

Anwar breaks in to mention that this Q&A was Herman's idea. Tom doesn't promise that this will be a regular thing, but he feels that in times like these, "you want to reach out to the people who are so invested with the enterprise which you run".

Herman feels so removed right now because he can't see the players, fans, or coworkers.

Tom is effusive in his gratitude for the passion of Longhorn Nation. He mentions that "basically" he spent all of his time since being GA at Texas trying to work towards winning the HC job.

Herman likes his steaks medium rare.

Anwar introduces the Q&A format. Herman breaks in at this point to emphasize that he doesn't want only softball questions; the goal is to educate fans and discuss strategy/philosophy as well.

First formal question from the userbase: beans or no beans? Herman emphatically states, no beans in his chili. He was born in Cincinnati and spent some time there, and is partial to Skyline Chili, but real chili is put in a bowl, not poured on a hot dog or on spaghetti. "It makes room for more meat!"

Binge-watched shows: The Hermans knocked out Tiger King in two nights. Asked about Joe Exotic being a Longhorn fan: "they come in all shapes and sizes." That said, Herman is happy about the idea of having any kind of Longhorn presence in Oklahoma. He was astounded that everything covered in the documentary happened recently, yet was completely unaware until now.

Ozark: Tom and Michelle watched the first season and five episodes of season 2 together. They planned to catch up on the rest together, but Herman fell asleep mid-watch, and when he woke up the next day, Michelle had already finished the whole thing. Some friction emerged when they tried to watch Season 3 together and Herman kept asking questions; now he's catching up on his own.

Unprompted, Herman suggests shows to binge-watch: True Detective (he was up all night watching season 1 a few spring breaks ago), Breaking Bad, Newsroom, Homeland. Fernando Lovo swears by The Wire, but Herman couldn't get into it (he knows this will be unpopular). Nevertheless, Herman loves the Season 1 line, "Come at the king, you best not miss." He calls it the GOAT TV line while flashing the Hook'Em.

Favorite BBQ: Salt Lick's meat is "good"; their sauce is "incredible". Don't go to the one in the airport. Cooper's. Franklin, Black's, and Terry Black's (they sometimes take recruits there to the latter two).

On to the football questions.

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On Sam Ehlinger's injury: "He's great." If they played a game tomorrow, he'd be a full go. The injury was to a floating rib (one that doesn't attach to the sternum). It pained him throughout the season, but he was still able to function. He aggravated the injury in the winter (Herman called it a stress reaction), leading the staff to heavily modify his workouts towards the end of winter conditioning. That said, Sam would have been a full go in spring practice. The time off allows his rib to "100% heal."

Positive surprise about the UT program since taking over: The administration allows Tom to do things his way. He had heard "horror stories" about boosters and administrators getting involved, but Herman hasn't experienced any of that. He recalls that 3.5 years ago, when he went to the Hampton Inn in Bastrop (at 11 PM) to interview for the Texas job, there were just two people in the room: Mike Perrin and Greg Fenves. That said a lot to Herman about the commitment to getting better. Fenves told him that night, "our football program is broken, and we need you to fix it, and do it your way."

Negative surprise: the negativity of the media coverage. Herman compared his experience at Ohio State to that at Texas. He calls Columbus the midwest Austin, but the media over there was never hostile. Granted, they won a lot of games in his time there, but even when Tressel had to go, "they let him down very easily".

Anwar pushes him on this. Herman doesn't mind the criticism of specific plays or calls, but there are times when they win, and they still draw criticism for not doing everything right (not enough points, throwing/running the ball too much, win by big margins but focusing on details like TEs not catching enough passes, etc.). Herman stresses that this isn't a complaint, but goes on to say that it's almost like people are searching for things to be negative about.

Geoff Ketchum question: For Texas to have a successful season, they needed to win a conference title or play in a major bowl game; in the last 25 years, Texas has won 4 conference titles and played in 7 major bowl games (in the last decade, no titles and just one major bowl), Has the bar been set too high?

Herman response: Definitely not. Successful season = conference title, NY6 bowl game, CFP season - 2018 was a good year. That said, not achieving those goals does not necessarily constitute a "failure"; there's a lot of gray area. He was proud of the 2018 season, and proud of the way they finished 2019.

If they don't achieve their goals, that doesn't mean it was a failure; there were circumstances that came in there way. Herman acknowledges that poor coaching can be one of those factors; injuries and two other teams playing at an elite schedule can be circumstances.

Herman mentions that when he took over, Texas was coming off the worst three-year stretch in program history. When they signed the 2018 class, they figured that 2020 would be the year to build towards. He thinks the team overachieved in 2018; last season, they didn't do a good job developing players. When injuries hit the young defense, the replacements weren't ready, and Herman takes responsibility.

They don't grade seasons, but the bar for success remains consistent and high.

Q: Why does Herman value playing a TE over a 4th WR, especially when the offense substitutes (allowing the defense to do so as well)?

A: If you put a 4th WR on the field, you are "extremely limited" in the run plays available to you - essentially a zone read or a draw. 11 personnel allows the offense to run or throw (balance), because the TE adds a whole new dimension to the run game. They flex out the TE to not be pigeonholed to just a few formations.

Tom expounds on how DCs call games: they have sheets that specify which calls correspond to defending 10 personnel, 11 personnel, etc. A person in the box tells the DC what the grouping is. The coordinator then makes the call.

Herman also believes that keeping a TE prevents teams from going dime frequently.

He states that they don't flex a TE often, but when they do, it's because they have pass schemes that benefit from putting them in the slot due to spacing and timing. When they use TEs in a 4-WR concept play, they can seamlessly transition to a run play on the next down without allowing the defense to substitute.

Herman thinks Jared Wiley will play on Sundays. They love the "big receiver" potential of Epps and Liebrock. Brewer is athletic too, though he doesn't have the length the younger TEs do.

Tom recalls being at Texas 20 years ago, they would be in 21 personnel, and would occasionally split out FB Ricky Brown out wide.

Someone on the stream mentions that the defensive coordinators knew what they were running. Herman is mystified; Larry Fedora was in charge of self-scouting and would have been on top of this. Tom says the staff pays a lot of attention to the width and depth of the running back aligning in shotgun, as well as where he lines up relative to the TE.

On tendencies, Herman says it's not unusual for DCs to know 60%-70% of the plays, they might know tendencies, but they won't be on top of calls or checks. Of course, 90%-95% knowledge would be a problem.

4th and goal from the opponent's 9, national championship on the line, what do you call?

Obviously you have to throw to the end zone. Who is your best receiver? Herman learned when he first started calling plays, on critical downs (3rd down, red zone, 2-minute drill), it's important to focus on players, not plays. Don't get caught up trying to run specific schemes or plays. He mentions LJH from 2018 and Duvernay 2019 as critical examples of just getting their best players the ball. If those players are schemed against, double-teamed, it's the coaches' jobs to scheme around that.

Anwar asks Herman directly about the binder and what goes into his decisions. Will Yurcich adapt to him or is that his philosophy?

Before answering this question, Herman addresses the question, "What does Michelle get on you about regarding coaching football?" Herman laughs and says that it drives Michelle nuts that they don't always "take the points." Also important, Herman breaks character and actually refers to Cameron Dicker by name here (he claims it doesn't count because he quotes his wife).

Yurcich will have to live with Tom's decisions to go for it because it's Herman's call.

On going for it: Herman points out that fans celebrate the decision to go for it when they convert on 4th, and criticize when they don't, even in identical situations. "Hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20."

Tom launches into a wider monologue on analytics, citing its influence on basketball and baseball. It's all about playing the percentages.

The binder has pages describing situations by game quarter, score differential, distance, and yard line. Every possible circumstance is color-coded green (go for it), yellow (think about going for it, probably a good idea), red (punt or kick a FG). After every second down, somebody on the staff looks at the binder in anticipation of the decision to make on fourth down (should it arise).

For example, if 4th and 2 is a "go", 3rd and 6 could be a called run play in that situation.

Herman loves the binder, though he doesn't always listen to it.

Despite what people think, Herman is more conservative than what analytics recommend.

Most critically, there is a new binder every week, as the the percentages are updated for both Texas' and opponents' efficiencies as they evolve over the year.

Herman will almost always go for it on 4th and short in the red zone (1/2 yards to go) because the goal is not just to score in the red zone, but score TDs in the red zone. The percentages definitively favor going for it. Even with a "fairly automatic" kicker, the opportunity cost is maybe getting 3 points when you have a good chance at getting 7. If they fail, at the very least the opponent will be backed up.

Fans have to realize that they won't convert every time, but that's OK. Fans can believe in analytics or if they don't, in Herman's gut.

Anwar asks Herman directly about coaching changes. Was changing both OC and DC necessary, and what prompted those moves?

Herman felt he had become "a jack of all trades and master of none." Being a playcaller prevented him from being the best head coach he could be, and he wasn't able to oversee the defense properly. Conversely, head coach duties prevented him from being the best playcaller he could be. Tom felt comfortable when Major Applewhite was his OC at Houston, and he feels quite happy about his relationship with Yurcich.

On defense, "the buck stops here [points to himself]". 7-5 isn't good enough at Texas. They didn't play to their strengths or develop young talent well.

Herman didn't see those coordinator changes as a get-out-of-jail free card. [At this point, the stream cuts, to a very audible "Oh shit" from Anwar]. He praised CDC for giving Herman the latitude to make the changes he needed, especially in terms of salary amounts and guaranteed years for the new assistants.

Herman said there are only a few people on his staff who remember him as a coordinator. Two of them, Fernando Lovo and Yancy McKnight, told him that Yurcich reminded them of him [Herman]. Tom didn't know if he should take that as a compliment or an insult.

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Q: After next season ends, what results will you look to determine success of your staff changes?

Herman emphasizes that he doesn't "grade" coaches. Obviously, they focus on wins, points scored, and points given up, but that's as "black and white" as it gets. Herman avoids the use of words "success" and "failure" within the program.

Herman mentioned a recruiting phone call with a "big-time superstar in the Metroplex" at 2 PM, following the chat.

Some clothing talk. Herman jokes that half the reason he got into coaching was that he wouldn't have to wear a coat and tie to work every day. Even in Columbus and Ames (Iowa), Herman wore shorts regardless of temperature. He has a decided disdain for long pants.

Joking comment about headbutts (in reference to before the 2019 Baylor game). Herman says he's been doing that since his OC days at Ohio State, and was surprised that it got as much attention as it did. He speculates that it must be because nobody filmed it before that game.

Defensive philosophy:

In the Big 12, it's all about getting pressure on the QB. When you play a nose guard over the center, and two ends on the body of the OTs, it's very difficult to accomplish without bltizing.

They were robbing Peter to pay Paul to get a pass rush, which left them vulnerable in coverage. Herman thinks Ossai is an elite pass-rusher, and allowing the pass-rushers to get on the edge will be advantageous. They will still blitz "some".

Chris Ash wants to be "simple but not predictable" on defense.

On the defensive roster:

Base defense will be nickel, usually (4-2-5).

Ossai, Vaughns/Hobbs, and Dorbah will meet with the DEs, but will play the "Jack" position - line up in a 2-point stance, usually pass-rusher, but sometimes dropping back.

Graham will play 3-technique (outside shade of the guard).

Coburn and Sweat will play nose guard (outside edge of center to inside edge of guard)

Bimage and Ojomo will play opposite end of the Jack.

In practice, it will be a 4-down alignment. Even when the Jack is in a 2-point stance, it is still considered a 4-down alignment. It's not about how many players have their hands on the ground.

At nickel, Adimora and Cook will battle.

Interestingly, Ash will have the nickel backs meet with the linebackers instead of the defensive backs. Their run fits and drops are so tied to the Mike and Will linebackers that it makes sense to meet with that position group. The nickel is called the "spur". They'll still do technical coverage learning with DB coaches.

Someone on the stream mentioned that "Ojomo is so underrated." Herman concurs.

On Jay Valai and the DBs:

Chris Ash "stood on the table" for the Valai hire. He strongly believed in the fit because Valai hailed from Dallas, played for him at Wisconsin, and is tied in to all the private trainers and HS coaches in DFW because of his own private trainer experience. Herman still wanted to talk to Valai before hiring him. Within 30 minutes, Herman realized Jay was a "no-brainer" hire for his passion, knowledge, recruiting ties.

The DBs need to play the ball better. They were in good position too many times to not make a play on the ball. Ash and Valai need to maximize the DB talent they have (and there's a lot).

On blending philosophies with Yurcich; is it the Herman offense or the Yurcich offense?

It's a huge misnomer that it's "somebody's" offense.

You have to play to the strengths of your personnel. OSU looked a lot different when they had Weeden and Blackmon as opposed to Hill and Hubbard.

Herman will still be involved, and the plays will still need his seal of approval.

Yurcich has brought a lot of good ideas, many of them tempo-based.

Tom says he and Hand have been open to incorporating Yurcich's concepts.

Yurcich has been learning the existing "language" of the offense; it's much easier for one 45-year-old professional to learn a new language than fifty 18-to-22-year-olds. On both sides, there are certain terms and concepts that are non-negotiable.

Why is it not automatic to have Jake Smith and Jordan Whittington both on the field in 4-wide-receiver sets?

Herman: "Who do you want on the bench? Bijan Robinson? Roschon Johnson? Brennan Eagles?... " (he goes on like this for a while). "They don't let you play 15 guys on the field."

It's their job as coaches to get the best players on the field, to run the best schemes to take advantage of the defense, and finally to make sure where they don't run the players into the ground. There will be plays with both Smith and Whittington on the field, but there are a lot of talented offensive players who will be on the sidelines in those situations.

Herman again mentions that it's tough to run out of 10 personnel. Smith and Whittington were built to be slot receivers... and the stream cuts. That's a wrap!

 

 

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Jesus, y'all win a title and still have tissue-thin skin to even gentle joking around. Woof.

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Apex, take it somewhere else. This is a football thread, not a "don't be a pussy, my racist jokes are actually harmless and hilarious" thread.

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1 hour ago, cam4mav said:

Tom expounds on how DCs call games: they have sheets that specify which calls correspond to defending 10 personnel, 11 personnel, etc. A person in the box tells the DC what the grouping is. The coordinator then makes the call.

Herman also believes that keeping a TE prevents teams from going dime frequently.

I commented on this the other day, but seeing the full response just shows how stupid it is. This is only true if the DC has to respect the TE. Trotting our a total JAG like Leitao or a true FR Wiley who wasn’t ready to play yet. DCs didn’t rightly respect the TE and it killed our offense for most of the season. Everyone talked about the CJ injuries, but our YPP went down drastically once Brewer was hurt, and Brewer wasn’t even that good. It’s no coincidence that our offense picked back up when we had Brewer for the bowl game. 
 

This kind of stubbornness obviously hurt us last year, but it’s also a bad sign moving forward. We should be better at TE with a senior Brewer and 2nd year Wiley and Liebrock so it probably won’t hurt us as much, but we’re still keeping better players off the field, it we only play 1 RB and 1 slot WR when we have so many talented guys at those spots. Only playing 2 of Ingram, RoJo, Bijan, J. Smith, and Whittington at a time is not optimizing your offense and shows a failure to game plan for opponent-specific weaknesses. 

1 hour ago, cam4mav said:

At nickel, Adimora and Cook will battle.

Interestingly, Ash will have the nickel backs meet with the linebackers instead of the defensive backs. Their run fits and drops are so tied to the Mike and Will linebackers that it makes sense to meet with that position group. The nickel is called the "spur". They'll still do technical coverage learning with DB coaches.

 

If this is how Ash views the Nickel, then you have to think Adimora will win that battle. He’s already shown to be at least decent in coverage and he has the size/physicality to play like a LB. Cook has a pretty slight frame, and while he’s aggressive, he’ll struggle to fulfill those responsibilities at near the same level as Adimora. 

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16 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

I commented on this the other day, but seeing the full response just shows how stupid it is. This is only true if the DC has to respect the TE. Trotting our a total JAG like Leitao or a true FR Wiley who wasn’t ready to play yet. DCs didn’t rightly respect the TE and it killed our offense for most of the season. Everyone talked about the CJ injuries, but our YPP went down drastically once Brewer was hurt, and Brewer wasn’t even that good. It’s no coincidence that our offense picked back up when we had Brewer for the bowl game. 
 

This kind of stubbornness obviously hurt us last year, but it’s also a bad sign moving forward. We should be better at TE with a senior Brewer and 2nd year Wiley and Liebrock so it probably won’t hurt us as much, but we’re still keeping better players off the field, it we only play 1 RB and 1 slot WR when we have so many talented guys at those spots. Only playing 2 of Ingram, RoJo, Bijan, J. Smith, and Whittington at a time is not optimizing your offense and shows a failure to game plan for opponent-specific weaknesses. 

I'm just shocked that CDC hasn't fired herman and hired you to take his place. 

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51 minutes ago, NorLa Horns said:

Epps being moved to DE is an invitation for him to leave. cus that video is proof he dosen't have the mean for the position. hell, he didn't have the mean to play WR. Smh

He’s 6’6 with good hands.  I’m not sure why he didn’t spend his entire RS year and RS Freshman year living in the weight room.  Humid he can get to 250 and learn how to block, he’s an NFL prospect bc he has decent hands.  He simply doesn’t want to play TE and doesn’t have the willingness to get nasty and block. 

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He’s 6’6 with good hands.  I’m not sure why he didn’t spend his entire RS year and RS Freshman year living in the weight room.  Humid he can get to 250 and learn how to block, he’s an NFL prospect bc he has decent hands.  He simply doesn’t want to play TE and doesn’t have the willingness to get nasty and block. 

He could have spent all the time he wanted in the weight room and it wouldn't have mattered. Soft is soft. Epps as it stands is a physical freak, he just is soft on the field.

Workout warrior. It feels like UT has been full of them lately.

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On 4/10/2020 at 2:56 PM, Burt Macklin said:

I commented on this the other day, but seeing the full response just shows how stupid it is. This is only true if the DC has to respect the TE. Trotting our a total JAG like Leitao or a true FR Wiley who wasn’t ready to play yet. DCs didn’t rightly respect the TE and it killed our offense for most of the season. Everyone talked about the CJ injuries, but our YPP went down drastically once Brewer was hurt, and Brewer wasn’t even that good. It’s no coincidence that our offense picked back up when we had Brewer for the bowl game. 
 

This kind of stubbornness obviously hurt us last year, but it’s also a bad sign moving forward. We should be better at TE with a senior Brewer and 2nd year Wiley and Liebrock so it probably won’t hurt us as much, but we’re still keeping better players off the field, it we only play 1 RB and 1 slot WR when we have so many talented guys at those spots. Only playing 2 of Ingram, RoJo, Bijan, J. Smith, and Whittington at a time is not optimizing your offense and shows a failure to game plan for opponent-specific weaknesses. 

If this is how Ash views the Nickel, then you have to think Adimora will win that battle. He’s already shown to be at least decent in coverage and he has the size/physicality to play like a LB. Cook has a pretty slight frame, and while he’s aggressive, he’ll struggle to fulfill those responsibilities at near the same level as Adimora. 

It sounds like Ash's approach is similar to what TCU does (LT plays TCU's D). The Rover / Spur is a safety/LB hybrid that plays run first, and practices with the LBs. The Boundary safety and corner are what make all the coverages work as the boundary corner is often in man and the boundary safety is either in man, is free, and/or is erasing the mistakes of others either in run or pass. 

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The Biggest Guys
-OL No. 55 Willie Tyler - 6-7 - 335 - RSSO
-OL No. 67 Tope Imade - 6-6 - 350 - RSSR
-OL No. 72 Tyler Johnson - 6-6 - 325 - RSFR
-DL No. 93 T'Vondre Sweat - 6-4 - 335 - SO 
-DL No. 99 Keondre Coburn - 6-2 - 350 - SO
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https://www.burntorangenation.com/2020/4/13/21219171/texas-longhorns-early-enrollee-jersey-numbers

More weights at the bottom. So is Owens a LB or a safety?? Saw the other day they were moving him

 

Eberts says: Sophomore Tyler Owens remains at safety at 210 pounds.  Also, Texas also provided further confirmation of other position changes, including junior Reese Leitao from tight end to defensive line. 

 

You can thank @Hornsfan91 for this from IT Friday Humidor

- In February we noted junior-to-be DeMarvion Overshown was moved to linebacker. We’ve learned former Plano East standout Tyler Owens was also moved to linebacker before the team left campus seemingly six months ago. From the moment of his arrival, new defensive coordinator Chris Ash has made it clear he wants to have the fastest defense in the country. Having a linebacker who ran the 100m in the 10.3 range in high school is one way to accomplish that. Owens is able to make this move because of his size, but he’s also more of a downhill, straight-line player to begin with while Ash prioritizes hips and coverage in the back-end.

 

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an anchor that can move.  coburn is getting drafted in the first round, whenever he wants to come out. 

I think they need to get Coburn down the the 325-330 range.  At 350, he’s going to have the same problem he had his freshman year... he won’t be able to play more than a few plays before needing to hit the bench for a breather.

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I think they need to get Coburn down the the 325-330 range.  At 350, he’s going to have the same problem he had his freshman year... he won’t be able to play more than a few plays before needing to hit the bench for a breather.

did you watch last season?  he doesn’t need to play at 325. 

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-OL No. 67 Tope Imade - 6-6 - 350 - RSSR
-OL No. 72 Tyler Johnson - 6-6 - 325 - RSFR
-DL No. 93 T'Vondre Sweat - 6-4 - 335 - SO 
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How the fuck do you go from having a P5 head coaching salary to driving for Uber? 

wondered the same thing.  you’d think if you were making over $1.5MM/year for several years you could handle a year off without driving for fucking uber. 

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From that article: "primarily to slot man Devin Duvernay, who exploded for 106 receptions, 1,386 yards and nine touchdowns as a senior.

Incredibly, 40 of those catches were at or behind the line of scrimmage"

 

I almost threw my monitor across the room when I read this. We had one of the fastest WRs in the country, and about half of his receptions were at or behind the line of scrimmage. When Tom gets fired in a year or two, and he will, I am going to send him a letter written in my own feces explainging at length why this was a mistake. 

 

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Connelly's on to another team we'll actually play - we're projected to win by 24ish

 

You just look over at those Standard & Pope’s charts and it’s just all about how i took a team in the top 30 in the country and dragged them to below 100 in 3 short years.

/Charlie Strong, probably 

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From that article: "primarily to slot man Devin Duvernay, who exploded for 106 receptions, 1,386 yards and nine touchdowns as a senior.

Incredibly, 40 of those catches were at or behind the line of scrimmage"

 

I almost threw my monitor across the room when I read this. We had one of the fastest WRs in the country, and about half of his receptions were at or behind the line of scrimmage. When Tom gets fired in a year or two, and he will, I am going to send him a letter written in my own feces explainging at length why this was a mistake. 

 

Um wut? He’s also one of the best receivers in the country after the catch, so getting him the ball often with room to run is a good idea.

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Just now, Burt Macklin said:

You just look over at those Standard & Pope’s charts and it’s just all about how i took a team in the top 30 in the country and dragged them to below 100 in 3 short years.

/Charlie Strong, probably 

Um wut? He’s also one of the best receivers in the country after the catch, so getting him the ball often with room to run is a good idea.

......wouldn't it be better to throw to him while he is moving...downfield.....taking advantage of his speed?!? Remember in 2018, when Texas & Rutgers were the only 2 schools without an offensive play of 50+ yards (or something like that)? This idiotic approach to offense is why things like that happen. Tom is the guy with his hand on the chicken-switch. He is responsible.

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7 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

......wouldn't it be better to throw to him while he is moving...downfield.....taking advantage of his speed?!? Remember in 2018, when Texas & Rutgers were the only 2 schools without an offensive play of 50+ yards (or something like that)? This idiotic approach to offense is why things like that happen. Tom is the guy with his hand on the chicken-switch. He is responsible.

Lulz. There’s a lot of things to complain about with Herman. His usage of Duvernay this year isn’t one of them.  Duvernay has speed but he’s not Tyreek Hill fast and he’s only 5’10. He’s not best used as primarily a deep threat, considering he has incredible hands on underneath throws and is great after the catch. 

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cam4mav

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for real..... criticizing the use of Dev is tarded. He didn't exactly light up the world working outside down the field as a JR. His tackle breaking % was most likely very high up the list of people with more than 30 catches. And he did have over the top catches where his speed was the play call so it's not like that wasn't part of the playbook.

Is the suggestion that we should not take that production on the short throws and instead attempt more deep shots like to Eagles, Dev, etc? Because that would be a dumb suggestion

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2 hours ago, JFKFC said:

......wouldn't it be better to throw to him while he is moving...downfield.....taking advantage of his speed?!? Remember in 2018, when Texas & Rutgers were the only 2 schools without an offensive play of 50+ yards (or something like that)? This idiotic approach to offense is why things like that happen. Tom is the guy with his hand on the chicken-switch. He is responsible.

herman called an offense that won him a national championship with a third string moron at quarterback.  what’s on your resume?

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4 hours ago, JFKFC said:

From that article: "primarily to slot man Devin Duvernay, who exploded for 106 receptions, 1,386 yards and nine touchdowns as a senior.

Incredibly, 40 of those catches were at or behind the line of scrimmage"

 

I almost threw my monitor across the room when I read this. We had one of the fastest WRs in the country, and about half of his receptions were at or behind the line of scrimmage. When Tom gets fired in a year or two, and he will, I am going to send him a letter written in my own feces explainging at length why this was a mistake. 

 

The main issue was Sam's inconsistent deep ball, especially in the middle of the field. 

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