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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:06 PM, slorch said:

He’s giving what he’s getting.

 

Should he sit there and take it?

 

I wouldn’t begin to defend Trump’s character, but the ‘free pass’ for the press is bullshit.  They have zero accountability.

 

People are sick of it.  Some of y’all seem to embrace it.

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"I'm not defending Trump, but I am"

Fuck off with your constant bullshit.  Trump the Snowflake can't handle the press repeating his words and reporting on his actions.  No wonder you get off on this. 

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Slorch come thru with specific examples of how the press has treated the president unfairly.  I mean misquoting him, twisting words, specific examples. We’ll be waiting. Otherwise STFU and move on. 

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:13 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Yes he is.  He has two choices when it comes to the press with regards to his oath:  say nothing, or defend the press.  He is attacking the press, and questioning the legitimacy of a free press.  

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No the substance of their reporting calls question to the substance and legitimacy of the press.

 

He is fre to comment on it.  Throw them in jail?  Nope.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:04 PM, tantric superman said:
You believe it is acceptable for the President to lie about the press, and berate them in the way he has?

It's outrageous that any Americans accept this kind of behavior. 

 

Here’s what I like: they’ve set the standard for what is ok presidential conduct. When a dem is in Office, I’ll just pull these posts up and tell them to STFU, they were ok with far worse when Donnie did it. We’re pretty much at the point that there’s nothing a dem could do that they’ll be able to criticize. Way to lower the bar.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:10 PM, tantric superman said:

I'm assuming most states would have statutes similar to 18 USC 102 (riots).

These would be the type of statues he would be closest to violating.

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And I am quite sure, just as with the Annappolis shooting; any violence will be attributed to Trump, regardless.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:50 PM, Brisketexan said:


Here’s what I like: they’ve set the standard for what is ok presidential conduct. When a dem is in Office, I’ll just pull these posts up and tell them to STFU, they were ok with far worse when Donnie did it. We’re pretty much at the point that there’s nothing a gem could do that they’ll be able to criticize. Way to lower the bar.

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The bar was lowered waaaaaay the fuck before 2016.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:50 PM, Brisketexan said:

Here’s what I like: they’ve set the standard for what is ok presidential conduct. When a dem is in Office, I’ll just pull these posts up and tell them to STFU, they were ok with far worse when Donnie did it. We’re pretty much at the point that there’s nothing a dem could do that they’ll be able to criticize. Way to lower the bar.

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I’ve been saying the Republicans will have to deal with a never ending stream of Trump whataboutisms thrown back in their face for the rest of their lives. 

Winning.

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Obama destroyed Presidential gravitas when he wore that tan suit.  It's not fair that the media calls Trump out on his daily lies when we live in a world where Obama once put his feet up on his desk.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:07 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’ve been saying the Republicans will have to deal with a never ending stream of Trump whataboutisms thrown back in their face for the rest of their lives. 

Winning.

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They'll all magically develop amnesia, and blame whatever actions they had taken during the Trump administration as "fake news". 

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:04 PM, tantric superman said:

You believe it is acceptable for the President to lie about the press, and berate them in the way he has?

It's outrageous that any Americans accept this kind of behavior. 

 

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Why is it okay for the press to lie about the President but a mortal sin for the President to lie about the press?  The press has a responsibility to report facts fairly, objectively, and let the audience decide whether those facts deserve praise or condemnation.  What consists of the press now is a bunch of social activists who are presenting personal political opinions and deliberately trying to pass off those opinions as facts in order to persuade the audience to support those opinions.  That is not journalism.  That is propaganda.  

 

Is some of what Sanders says propaganda?  Sure, some of what every White House press secretary who has ever given a press briefing says is propaganda.  Government without propaganda doesn't exist.  However an honest press would ask questions first and shoot when they get bullshit for an answer.  The press now shoots first and asks questions later.  The media has not cared about the truth since Trump was elected.  All they have cared about is "getting Trump."  Trump is giving them a taste of their own medicine and it makes them despise him even more.

Listening to Acosta, CNN, the New York Times, and all the other media stooges complain about Trump picking on them is like listening to a bully complain when someone he picks on punches him in the nose.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:13 PM, EMAWesome said:

Why is it okay for the press to lie about the President but a mortal sin for the President to lie about the press? 

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What lies?  Can you provide 3 instances (not including FOX)?

 

(I know I just asked for the Alex Jones talking points of the day)

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:06 PM, slorch said:
He’s giving what he’s getting.
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No he's not. The Birther-in-Chief labels the press the Enemy of the People for doing their job, pointing out demonstrably false assertions by the administration, and not simply acting as a spokesperson. The press criticizes the president for doing what birthers do- living in an alternate reality and insisting everyone else assist in maintaining their world of bullshit.
 

 

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:13 PM, EMAWesome said:

Why is it okay for the press to lie about the President but a mortal sin for the President to lie about the press?  The press has a responsibility to report facts fairly, objectively, and let the audience decide whether those facts deserve praise or condemnation.  What consists of the press now is a bunch of social activists who are presenting personal political opinions and deliberately trying to pass off those opinions as facts in order to persuade the audience to support those opinions.  That is not journalism.  That is propaganda.  

 

Is some of what Sanders says propaganda?  Sure, some of what every White House press secretary who has ever given a press briefing says is propaganda.  Government without propaganda doesn't exist.  However an honest press would ask questions first and shoot when they get bullshit for an answer.  The press now shoots first and asks questions later.  The media has not cared about the truth since Trump was elected.  All they have cared about is "getting Trump."  Trump is giving them a taste of their own medicine and it makes them despise him even more.

Listening to Acosta, CNN, the New York Times, and all the other media stooges complain about Trump picking on them is like listening to a bully complain when someone he picks on punches him in the nose.

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We’ll be waiting for some specific examples of the press’s demonstrable lies about the president from you too shit for brains. 

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:13 PM, EMAWesome said:

Why is it okay for the press to lie about the President but a mortal sin for the President to lie about the press?  The press has a responsibility to report facts fairly, objectively, and let the audience decide whether those facts deserve praise or condemnation.  What consists of the press now is a bunch of social activists who are presenting personal political opinions and deliberately trying to pass off those opinions as facts in order to persuade the audience to support those opinions.  That is not journalism.  That is propaganda.  

 

Is some of what Sanders says propaganda?  Sure, some of what every White House press secretary who has ever given a press briefing says is propaganda.  Government without propaganda doesn't exist.  However an honest press would ask questions first and shoot when they get bullshit for an answer.  The press now shoots first and asks questions later.  The media has not cared about the truth since Trump was elected.  All they have cared about is "getting Trump."  Trump is giving them a taste of their own medicine and it makes them despise him even more.

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Just so shot full of stupid I don't even know where to start.

The press has an incentive not to lie, as that creates the opportunity to be sued for libel.  I dare you to find a significant number of situations where you can prove that the press has been lying about Trump.  Hell, I've said it before -- theirs is the easiest job in the world.  All they have to do is transcribe his words and he does the rest for them.  Half the time, he can't stick to his own truth for a single day.

And in case it hasn't dawned on you yet, the press is perfectly well within its rights to slant a story any old which way (can you say FOX News?), and it is also perfectly well within its rights to craft pure opinion pieces.  Those are called "editorials" you dope.

I'll leave it to someone else to mock your silly equivocation and whataboutism.

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Those morons like EMA and slorch think his attack on the press began when he took office. He’s been doing it since his days as a launderer...I mean, developer in Manhattan. This isn’t anything new like he’s defending his presidency. He’s a snowflake that can’t handle any criticism. 

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  On 8/3/2018 at 12:39 PM, J.R. said:

Slorch come thru with specific examples of how the press has treated the president unfairly.  I mean misquoting him, twisting words, specific examples. We’ll be waiting. Otherwise STFU and move on. 

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http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/393553-the-media-just-cant-stop-lying-about-trump

https://www.crtv.com/video/9-most-absurd-lies-the-media-told-about-trump-in-2017--white-house-brief

https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/07/11/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:13 PM, EMAWesome said:

Why is it okay for the press to lie about the President but a mortal sin for the President to lie about the press?  The press has a responsibility to report facts fairly, objectively, and let the audience decide whether those facts deserve praise or condemnation.  What consists of the press now is a bunch of social activists who are presenting personal political opinions and deliberately trying to pass off those opinions as facts in order to persuade the audience to support those opinions.  That is not journalism.  That is propaganda.  

 

Is some of what Sanders says propaganda?  Sure, some of what every White House press secretary who has ever given a press briefing says is propaganda.  Government without propaganda doesn't exist.  However an honest press would ask questions first and shoot when they get bullshit for an answer.  The press now shoots first and asks questions later.  The media has not cared about the truth since Trump was elected.  All they have cared about is "getting Trump."  Trump is giving them a taste of their own medicine and it makes them despise him even more.

Listening to Acosta, CNN, the New York Times, and all the other media stooges complain about Trump picking on them is like listening to a bully complain when someone he picks on punches him in the nose.

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Please provide specific examples of the press telling lies about Trump.....

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So the examples are mistakes by the media that were corrected, the most serious of which resulted in the journalist getting fired.    This is supposed to support the argument that the media shouldn't be held to a lower standard than the president?    It only shows that the media's standard is astronomically higher.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:30 PM, EMAWesome said:
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These are excellent examples of a false equivalency. If you’re seriously comparing this to Trump’s misinformation Twitter campaign... oof. 

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:43 PM, BigBenBamboozle said:
These are excellent example of a false equivalency. If you’re seriously comparing this to Trump’s misinformation Twitter campaign... oof. 

It’s really perfect.

The Trumpkins are really bad at logic and evidence-based reasoning. And they demonstrate it with perfect consistency.
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Oh and that "opinion" piece is by John Lott Jr., Fox News contributor, gun rights advocate and someone who used a sock to praise his academic work.  His book titles include:

More Guns, Less Crime

The Bias Against Guns

Debacle: Obama's War on Jobs and Growth and What We Can Do Now to Regain Our Future

At the Brink: Will Obama Push Us Over the Edge?

 

Really unbiased person right there.

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I don't know whether to be depressed that slorch and EMA may actually believe the bullshit they are spouting or to at least be positive that most people see the truly disgusting behavior of the Trump for what it is.

Only thing to do is continue to try to read/watch media critically and do all we can to get the folks who empower this danger to an intelligent society out of office.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:46 PM, Js1 said:

Really unbiased person right there. 

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In fairness, and you know he is going to think he made a point, someone asked him to "name a lie".  Obviously, anyone with a brain can see the difference between one person making a mistake and being called on it and a conspiratorial attempt by everyone in the media to intentionally misrepresent the Pres's actions.

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Okay I'll just go with some of the more well known ones Atkinson gives.

 

Jan. 26, 2017: 

Josh Rogin of the Washington Post reported that the State Department’s “entire senior administrative team” had resigned in protest of Trump. A number of media outlets ranging from politically left to right, including liberal-leaning Vox, stated that claim was misleading or wrong.
 

Jan. 28, 2017

CNBC’s John Harwood reported the Justice Department “had no input” on Trump’s immigration executive order. After a colleague contradicted Harwood’s report, he amended it to reflect that Justice Department lawyers reportedly had reviewed Trump’s order.
 
 

Jan. 31, 2017:

CNN’s Jeff Zeleny reported the White House set up Twitter accounts for two judges to try to keep Trump’s selection for Supreme Court secret. Zeleny later corrected his report to state that the Twitter accounts had not been set up by the White House.
 

Feb. 4, 2017:

Josh Rogin of the Washington Post reported on “Inside the White House-Cabinet Battle Over Trump’s Immigration Order,” only to have the article updated repeatedly to note that one of the reported meetings had not actually occurred, that a conference call had not happened as described, and that actions attributed to Trump were actually taken by his chief of staff.
 
 

June 6, 2017:

CNN’s Gloria Borger, Eric Lichtblau, Jake Tapper and Brian Rokus; and ABC’s Justin Fishel and Jonathan Karl reported that Comey was going to refute Donald Trump’s claim that Comey told Trump three times he was not under investigation. Instead, Comey did the opposite and confirmed Trump’s claim.
 

June 22, 2017:

CNN’s Thomas Frank reported that Congress was investigating a “Russian investment fund with ties to Trump officials.” The report was later retracted. Frank and two other CNN employees resigned in the fallout.
 

December 2, 2017: 

ABC News’ Brian Ross reported that former Trump official Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn was going to testify that candidate Trump had directed him to contact “the Russians.” Even though such contact would not be in of itself a violation of law, the news was treated as an explosive indictment of Trump in the Russia collusion narrative, and the stock market fell on the news. ABC later corrected the report to reflect that Trump had already been elected when he reportedly asked Flynn to contact the Russians about working together to fight ISIS and other issues. Ross was suspended.
 
 

 July 6, 2017:

Newsweek’s Chris Riotta and others reported that Poland’s First Lady had refused to shake Trump’s hand. Newsweek’s later “update” reflected that the First Lady had shaken Trump’s hand after all, as clearly seen on the full video. 
 

Aug. 31, 2017:

NBC News’ Ken Dilinian and Carol Lee reported that a Trump official’s notes about a meeting with a Russian lawyer included the word “donation,” as if there were discussions about suspicious campaign contributions. NBC later corrected the report to reflect that the word “donation” didn’t appear, but still claimed the word “donor” did. Later, Politico reported that the word “donor” wasn’t in the notes, either.
 
 

Nov. 6, 2017:

CNN’s Daniel Shane edited excerpts from a Trump event to make it seem as though Trump didn’t realize Japan builds cars in the U.S. However, Trump’s entire statement made clear that he does.
 

Nov. 6, 2017:

CNN edited a video that made it appear as though Trump impatiently dumped a box of fish food into the water while feeding fish at Japan’s palace. The New York Daily News, the Guardian and others wrote stories implying Trump was gauche and impetuous. The full video showed that Trump had simply followed the lead of Japan’s Prime Minister. 
 

Nov. 29, 2017:

Newsweek’s Chris Riotta claimed Ivanka Trump “plagiarized” one of her own speeches. In fact, plagiarizing one’s own work is impossible since plagiarism is when a writer steals someone else’s work and passes it off as his own.

 

Dec. 5, 2017:

Bloomberg’s Steven Arons and the Wall Street Journal’s Jenny Strasburg reported the blockbuster that Special Counsel Robert Mueller had subpoenaed Trump’s bank records. It wasn’t true.
 

Dec. 8, 2017:

CNN’s Manu Raju and Jeremy Herb reported that Donald Trump Jr. conspired with WikiLeaks in advance of the publication of damaging Democrat party and Clinton campaign emails. Many other publications followed suit. They had the date wrong: WikiLeaks and Trump Junior were in contact after the emails were published.
 

March 8, 2018:

The New York Times’ Jan Rosen reported on a hypothetical family whose tax bill would rise nearly $4,000 under Trump’s tax plan. It turns out the calculations were off: the couple’s taxes would go actually go down $43; not up $4,000. 
 

 March 13, 2018:

The New York Times’ Adam Goldman, NBC’s Noreen O’Donnell and AP’s Deb Riechmann reported that Trump’s pick for CIA Director, Gina Haspel, had waterboarded a particular Islamic extremist terrorist dozens of time at a secret prison; and that she had mocked his suffering. In fact, Haspel wasn’t assigned to the prison until after the detainee left. ProPublica originally reported the incorrect details in Feb. 2017.
 

March 15, 2018:

AP’s Michael Biesecker, Jake Pearson and Jeff Horwitz reported that a Trump advisory board official had been a Miss America contestant and had killed a black rhino. She actually was a Mrs. America contestant and had shot a nonlethal tranquilizer dart at a white rhino.
 

 May 3, 2018:

NBC’s Tom Winter reported that the government had wiretapped Trump’s personal attorney Michael Cohen. NBC later corrected the story after three senior U.S. officials said there was no wiretap.
 

May 7, 2018:

CNBC’s Kevin Breuninger reported that Trump’s personal lawyer, Cohen, paid $1 million in fines related to unauthorized cars in his taxi business, had been barred from managing taxi medallions, had transferred $60 million offshore to avoid paying debts, and is awaiting trial on charges of failing to pay millions in taxes. A later correction stated that none of that was true.
 
 

May 16, 2018:

The New York Times’ Julie Hirschfeld Davis, AP, CNN’s Oliver Darcy and others excerpted a Trump comment as if he had referred to immigrants or illegal immigrants generally as “animals.” Most outlets corrected their reports later to note that Trump had specifically referred to members of the murderous criminal gang MS-13.

May 28, 2018

The New York Times’ Magazine editor-in-chief Jake Silverstein and CNN’s Hadas Gold shared a story with photos of immigrant children in cages as if they were new photos taken under the Trump administration. The article and photos were actually taken in 2014 under the Obama administration.
 

June 21, 2018

 
Time magazine and others used a photo of a crying Honduran child to illustrate a supposed Trump administration policy separating illegal immigrant parents and children. The child’s father later reported that agents had never separated her from her mother; the mother had taken her to the US without his knowledge and separated herself from her other children, whom she left behind.
 

June 28, 2018

After a newsroom shooting, a newspaper reporter falsely tweeted that the shooter “dropped his [Trump Make America Great Again] hat on newsroom floor before opening fire.”
 
 
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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:51 PM, tantric superman said:

In fairness, and you know he is going to think he made a point, someone asked him to "name a lie".  Obviously, anyone with a brain can see the difference between one person making a mistake and being called on it and a conspiratorial attempt by everyone in the media to intentionally misrepresent the Pres's actions.

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He knows the difference, but in his little world, it's all he has.  Desperation and hope are powerful motivators.

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:53 PM, EMAWesome said:

Okay I'll just go with some of the more well known ones Atkinson gives.

 

 

May 16, 2018:

The New York Times’ Julie Hirschfeld Davis, AP, CNN’s Oliver Darcy and others excerpted a Trump comment as if he had referred to immigrants or illegal immigrants generally as “animals.” Most outlets corrected their reports later to note that Trump had specifically referred to members of the murderous criminal gang MS-13.

 

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I picked this at random...

 

Can you post the specific news story?  I want to see EXACTLY how the story phased his remarks that were a LIE.  Spoiler he did refer to illegal immigrants as 'animals' and I beleive in a VERY generic way...  but that's interpretation...  we are talking FACTS right?

 

Here is a story WITH video of his press conference so every one can have their own interpretation in context....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/05/16/trumps-animals-comment-on-undocumented-immigrants-earn-backlash-historical-comparisons/?utm_term=.e5bdfcb1170c

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  On 8/3/2018 at 1:54 PM, Loco said:
He knows the difference, but in his little world, it's all he has.  Desperation and hope are powerful motivators.

Again, posting a list of reports that contained incorrect info...MOST of which were corrected (contrast with the “Vesuvius of mendacity” coming from Trump, which is NEVER corrected - not my words, but rather from that pussy libtard George will)....again, it’s perfect.

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