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1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

There's also a very small chance it was taken down by a donkey launched from a trebuchet.

A donkey paid for by the Obama administration. 

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Just read a tweet that US ‘officials’ are confident it was shot down as satellites picked up the AD radar and 2 launches.  So yeah if that’s true Assman was right, and the expected SA-15 has a fragmentation warhead (vs continuous rod) that’s poke a bunch of holes as seen in the pics.  

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On 1/7/2020 at 10:39 PM, Anastasis said:

That could probably do it. How audible would something like that be from distance?

This is a total guess, but I do have a graduate degree from UT with an emphasis in acoustics . . . "not very".

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16 minutes ago, mchookem said:

this is what happens when this shit gets started, innocent people get hurt

gotdamn that sucks

To be fair, there is no way I get on that plane an hour after the strikes.

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10 minutes ago, Pasken said:

To be fair, there is no way I get on that plane an hour after the strikes.

To be fair, that plane probably started boarding just a few minutes after the strikes, and who knows if anyone knew anything?  And what would be the calculus -- "do I take a chance on this flight or take a chance staying in this shithole with WW3 breaking out?"

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We shot down an Iranian aircraft in 1988. Russia shot down the Malaysian aircraft over Ukraine in 2014. And now Iran shoots down a Ukranian aircraft.

No reprisals or punishments happened after the first 2. Doubtful anything will come of this.

 

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Ukrainian airliner was shot down by Iran with Russian-made surface-to-air missiles

From CNN's Barbara Starr

The Ukrainian plane that crashed Wednesday was shot down by two Russian-made surface to air missiles (SA-15), according to a US official familiar with the intelligence. 

The US saw Iranian radar signals lock onto the jetliner, before it was shot down.

The morning after the incident, US analysts discovered the data but took another day to verify.

 

Welp, that's that.

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14 minutes ago, mchookem said:

this is what happens when this shit gets started, innocent people get hurt

Soleimani's job for 2 decades was organizing, training, funding, plotting and buying weapons for the many brutal militias and terrorist proxies under his command that killed a hell of a lot of innocent people.   All over the world.  Many aren't aware, but Hezbollah has even been deep in organized crime in South America for 2 decades, and not just in Venezuela.   

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7 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

We shot down an Iranian aircraft in 1988. Russia shot down the Malaysian aircraft over Ukraine in 2014. And now Iran shoots down a Ukranian aircraft.

No reprisals or punishments happened after the first 2. Doubtful anything will come of this.

 

We didn't have a raging war boner back then

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4 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Soleimani's job for 2 decades was organizing, training, funding, plotting and buying weapons for the many brutal militias and terrorist proxies under his command that killed a hell of a lot of innocent people.   All over the world.  Many aren't aware, but Hezbollah has even been deep in organized crime in South America for 2 decades, and not just in Venezuela.   

And we invaded Iraq on false premises creating a war and aftermath which has killed tens of thousands, maybe 100s of thousands of people. Be careful pointing fingers, we may end up being the worst of the lot.

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Curious how Trudeau will react to the news that his citizens were murdered. 
 


He’ll apologize for the plane getting in the way of the missile.
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Posted
21 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

We shot down an Iranian aircraft in 1988. Russia shot down the Malaysian aircraft over Ukraine in 2014. And now Iran shoots down a Ukranian aircraft.

No reprisals or punishments happened after the first 2. Doubtful anything will come of this.

 

Russians shot down that Korean Air 007 flight in the 80s too.  

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17 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

And we invaded Iraq on false premises creating a war and aftermath which has killed tens of thousands, maybe 100s of thousands of people. Be careful pointing fingers, we may end up being the worst of the lot.

Did you own stock in a baby milk factory?

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Posted
12 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

I'd forgotten. And were they handed swift punishment? I forget.

Just found this. 

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/09/world/ex-soviet-pilot-still-insists-kal-007-was-spying.html

A confirmed Communist who lives in the Caucasus region, Colonel Osipovich insists that the jetliner was on a spy mission and that there were no civilian passengers aboard. He even considers himself fortunate to have achieved a measure of celebrity by having destroyed Flight 007.

One of his few complaints is that the Soviet authorities paid him a smaller bonus for shooting down the plane than he had hoped: 200 rubles minus a small fee for postage.

The ground-based officer who first detected the plane on his radar scope received a 400-ruble bonus, he complained.

''Those who did not take part in this operation received double their monthly pay,'' he said. ''At that time, monthly pay was 230 rubles. So I expected to be paid at least 400 rubles.''

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1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

We shot down an Iranian aircraft in 1988. Russia shot down the Malaysian aircraft over Ukraine in 2014. And now Iran shoots down a Ukranian aircraft.

The circle of life requires that someone in Malaysia shoot down an American aircraft. 

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Just now, Anastasis said:

The circle of life requires that someone in Malaysia shoot down an American aircraft. 

Note to self, do not board any US plane whose flight path goes over Malay airspace.

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3 days of official state sanctioned mourning for a terrorist scumbag but let's see if the Iranian government will admit to the truth or continue their brazen lying about the cause. What an embarrassing display. 60 people die in a stampede at the funeral of the scumbag and now they shoot down a passenger jet. The value the Islamic government has for ordinary lives is nil.

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6 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

3 days of official state sanctioned mourning for a terrorist scumbag but let's see if the Iranian government will admit to the truth or continue their brazen lying about the cause. What an embarrassing display. 60 people die in a stampede at the funeral of the scumbag and now they shoot down a passenger jet. The value the Islamic government has for ordinary lives is nil.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

The value the Islamic government has for ordinary lives is nil.

Yeah, it's almost like they're putting kids in cages on the border.

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, it's almost like they're putting kids in cages on the border.

They killed over 1,000 people who were protesting and refused to give the bodies back to the families for burial. That is worse than the kiddie cages. Not surprising you are trying to draw a parallel between us and the Islamic regime when it is not warranted at all.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

They killed over 1,000 people who were protesting and refused to give the bodies back to the families for burial. That is worse than the kiddie cages. Not surprising you are trying to draw a parallel between us and the Islamic regime when it is not warranted at all.

No, I was just riffing on your condemnation of a government not valuing lives of ordinary people.  You know, irony.  And cloaky.

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Posted
43 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

somebody posted some photos upthread of some shrapnel holes.  Yep

And they looked external (as in shrapnel punching into the fuselage/wings, instead of exploding outward).

The fact that the Iranian government was so quick to say they wouldn't be sharing the blackbox with Boeing/etc. was a sign as well.

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44 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No, I was just riffing on your condemnation of a government not valuing lives of ordinary people.  You know, irony.  And cloaky.

I would have figured years of posting on this site would have taught you not to attempt to explain irony to the functionally retarded. 

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2 minutes ago, hookemATL said:

I would have figured years of posting on this site would have taught you not to attempt to explain irony to the functionally retarded. 

I wasn't expecting to have to explain it.  My bad.

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