Shits going down with the Royals

[Boss Hogg 808]

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Is appendix cancer a thing?

 

2 hours ago, CoTex said:

Stuart Scott's Battle With Cancer (menshealth.com)

Typically associated with carcinoid syndrome which has typical features you could recognize beforehand. Also, I don't think of an appendectomy as major abdominal surgery. 

 

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

does the timeline hold that -

a.) she initially was getting a hysterectomy due to symptoms, which is why the original easter timeline for recovery was given

b.) but in the process of recovery it was discovered she had ovarian cancer and thus had to get an oophorectomy which she is recovering from and also

c.) recovering chemo for now?

It wouldn't be split into two surgeries. If you see an unexpected ovarian cyst or mass you would take it out at the time. But that doesn't really fit the story. 

The benign mass was the reason for the surgery and it was found to be cancerous by pathology. Ovarian until proven otherwise. 

[VivaNaranja 466]

I have never understood the "We need the Royals for the tourist revenue they bring" argument. Do we need to bring back the Bourbons so Versailles can turn a profit? Find a Hapsburg hiding under a rock so someone will go to Schonbrunn? People tour Royal Palaces. You don't need a living monarch to sell tickets.

Edited March 23 by VivaNaranja

[Cap33 384]

So according to the Palaces, both Kate and Chuck enter the same hospital for scheduled procedures a day or two apart, and both emerge with incidental findings of cancer.  Really? I guess it's possible, but because Kensington Palace has 100% fucked up the entire PR management for Kate, I call bullshit.

I completely get the desire to manage public knowledge of a cancer diagnosis, particularly with three young children. But then why the lies? Why say it was "non-cancerous" so quickly? Why put out stories in the last 48 hours about how Kate is making school runs, runs errands around town, and plans to make a big splash return to public duties on Easter Sunday walking to church with the rest of the family.

They need to fire their entire PR team.

And I agree with @Nicole44 that there's likely more going on with William pissed off at Chuck and Camilla. 

 

[Macklemore 2876]

1 hour ago, VivaNaranja said:

I have never understood the "We need the Royals for the tourist revenue they bring" argument. Do we need to bring back the Bourbons so Versailles can turn a profit? Find a Hapsburg hiding under a rock so someone will go to Schonbrunn? People tour Royal Palaces. You don't need a living monarch to sell tickets.

This is so dumb on so many levels. 

[austingirl 2191]

Eh, the cancer thing makes the most sense. Some people are definitely thinking zebra instead of horse with the wilder theories. I mean, I'm sure there are more shenanigans going down than we know but I don't think there's a question of whether or not she's actually sick at this point.

[Chewbacca 7766]

It would be…magical.

You misspelled diarrhea inducing.

[Cap33 384]

Btw, I'm not questioning whether she actually has cancer. Lying about that would be the lowest thing possible. I just find their ever-changing stories questionable.

[hayden_horn 11362]

1 hour ago, Cap33 said:

So according to the Palaces, both Kate and Chuck enter the same hospital for scheduled procedures a day or two apart, and both emerge with incidental findings of cancer.  Really? I guess it's possible, but because Kensington Palace has 100% fucked up the entire PR management for Kate, I call bullshit.

I completely get the desire to manage public knowledge of a cancer diagnosis, particularly with three young children. But then why the lies? Why say it was "non-cancerous" so quickly? Why put out stories in the last 48 hours about how Kate is making school runs, runs errands around town, and plans to make a big splash return to public duties on Easter Sunday walking to church with the rest of the family.

They need to fire their entire PR team.

And I agree with @Nicole44 that there's likely more going on with William pissed off at Chuck and Camilla. 

 

 

52 minutes ago, austingirl said:

Eh, the cancer thing makes the most sense. Some people are definitely thinking zebra instead of horse with the wilder theories. I mean, I'm sure there are more shenanigans going down than we know but I don't think there's a question of whether or not she's actually sick at this point.

 

30 minutes ago, Cap33 said:

Btw, I'm not questioning whether she actually has cancer. Lying about that would be the lowest thing possible. I just find their ever-changing stories questionable.

yeah i mean any handle this like this at all? 

you don't have to spill the cancer beans if she does not want that. but you have to say something truthful even if it omits some truth. "The duchess underwent an abdominal surgery. There were some non life threatening complications. She is resting and recovering and will make an appearance when's she's goddamn good and ready. It might be a minute tho so get a sandwich and get comfy or take a nap or something. Please respect privacy blahblahblah"

instead here i am thinking it's still rehab or something else because when you lie once, people will question you. But lie twice? That's a pattern. I probably won't believe you again. 

Edited March 23 by hayden_horn

[shakahorn 1645]

In the last couple hundred years, no one has ever accused the royal family of being smart.  All that inbreeding finally caught up to them.

[Stringer 1438]

The only thing that was bungled was the collective actions of millions of nosy gossip mongers who mistakenly thought they were entitled to know her whereabouts and all the goings-on that were none of their fucking business until she wanted it to be.  
Yeah, she chose this life in the limelight but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve some time away without explaining it to the whole world. 

The gossip mongers are out of control in the UK. I concede that but disagree with the rest.

The people of England are entitled to their business. This is not a private citizen. Their source of income is public funds and entire reason for being at this point is to be a public face. They 100% owe transparency to the public. I understand some time to work through it with doctors and your family, but you need to communicate with the public (who again, 100% pays for the largesse) ASAP. Hiding behind photoshops and fake photo ops is irresponsible to the people that pay for their lives.

[statsman 5450]

Can someone save me from a shitload of googling?

OK, I get that the king of England, 500 years ago, was filthy rich, primarily through owning a bunch of property. So, they had Crimwelk’s revolution, and executed the king. Q1: did they then have the state take the property? Or a bunch of barons take it? Or a combination? (I’m guessing that it wasn’t put in a blind trust, but I could be wrong)

Then, a couple of decades later, they decided they needed a king again, and brought this German guy over to be king (and thus, the Windsors). W2: Did they then just give him a bunch of property? Was it pretty much what the executed king had?

Thanks

Edited March 23 by statsman

[Sawbonz 27527]

13 minutes ago, statsman said:

Can someone save me from a shitload of googling?

OK, I get that the king of England, 500 years ago, was filthy rich, primarily through owning a bunch of property. So, they had Crimwelk’s revolution, and executed the king. Q1: did they then have the state take the property? Or a bunch of barons take it? Or a combination? (I’m guessing that it wasn’t put in a blind trust, but I could be wrong)

Then, a couple of decades later, they decided they needed a king again, and brought this German guy over to be king (and thus, the Windsors). W2: Did they then just give him a bunch of property? Was it pretty much what the executed king had?

Thanks

This historical recreation is a pretty good summary 

 

 

[FartingMonk 3606]

Some of y'all are just fucking terrible humans.  How dare someone not want to declare to the public she has cancer.  So shameful

[MonkeyDoughnut 10226]

Yeah Palace PR screwed this up "royally", but cancer diagnosis screws you up and everyone around you no matter what kind or type you get.  One goes from life is great to could be over next month in one word.  From getting word that you have cancer to "here is how bad it is" can take days to weeks. Weeks that nothing makes sense and everything is on the table.  However they handle it is on them and there is no "bad" way to handle it as it's a judgement call based on what they know which will be little. 

With 3 young kids.. yeah, no way I want press running with that -- starting the death watch etc stories, having their friends asks I heard your mom is going to die etc.

[HornOnTheBayou 8904]

[Post Oak 20204]

26 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Very thoughtful

[Planet Houston 4930]

39 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Very thoughtful

He’s sending thots and prayers

[Herpa Derpa 6123]

33 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

He’s sending thots and prayers

thots and playas.

[Deej 76750]

22 hours ago, Macklemore said:

This is so dumb on so many levels. 

New Surly motto?

[DCA_HORN 725]

So will the Brits finally shut this whole charade down when the old man and Kate kick the bucket?

[gsoda3 3245]

Can someone save me from a shitload of googling?
OK, I get that the king of England, 500 years ago, was filthy rich, primarily through owning a bunch of property. So, they had Crimwelk’s revolution, and executed the king. Q1: did they then have the state take the property? Or a bunch of barons take it? Or a combination? (I’m guessing that it wasn’t put in a blind trust, but I could be wrong)
Then, a couple of decades later, they decided they needed a king again, and brought this German guy over to be king (and thus, the Windsors). W2: Did they then just give him a bunch of property? Was it pretty much what the executed king had?
Thanks

Cromwell eventually sold off most everything except Hampton Court and its contents which is where he lived. After he died and his son died and Charles 2 was restored the transactions were deemed illegal but Charles 2 didn't want to just take the land away from the purchasers so he turned them into leaseholders where he received the funds in exchange for use of royal land (he had an interest in preserving the peace and consequently his head. Remember he was restored with the promise he'd not seek revenge on anyone other than a small group of 60ish who were responsible for his father's death). By the time he was restored a lot of the land and homes were either destroyed or changed (stripped for valuable metal or forests cleared for timber etc) so it really was the most practical way forward.

[kevwun 15758]

On 3/22/2024 at 8:37 PM, Cap33 said:

So according to the Palaces, both Kate and Chuck enter the same hospital for scheduled procedures a day or two apart, and both emerge with incidental findings of cancer.  Really? I guess it's possible, but because Kensington Palace has 100% fucked up the entire PR management for Kate, I call bullshit.

I completely get the desire to manage public knowledge of a cancer diagnosis, particularly with three young children. But then why the lies? Why say it was "non-cancerous" so quickly? Why put out stories in the last 48 hours about how Kate is making school runs, runs errands around town, and plans to make a big splash return to public duties on Easter Sunday walking to church with the rest of the family.

They need to fire their entire PR team.

And I agree with @Nicole44 that there's likely more going on with William pissed off at Chuck and Camilla. 

 

Teddy Roosevelt's first wife and his mom died on the same night of separate illnesses.

[statsman 5450]

So, where do the royals get their healthcare? It’s not the NHS, is it?

[Goredho 17394]

3 hours ago, Deej said:

New Surly motto?

Is it really new?

[rage-a-holic 4371]

14 hours ago, statsman said:

Can someone save me from a shitload of googling?

OK, I get that the king of England, 500 years ago, was filthy rich, primarily through owning a bunch of property. So, they had Crimwelk’s revolution, and executed the king. Q1: did they then have the state take the property? Or a bunch of barons take it? Or a combination? (I’m guessing that it wasn’t put in a blind trust, but I could be wrong)

Then, a couple of decades later, they decided they needed a king again, and brought this German guy over to be king (and thus, the Windsors). W2: Did they then just give him a bunch of property? Was it pretty much what the executed king had?

Thanks

Crimwelk? Joe Bob Crimwelk from Decatur? He fixed my tractor one time.

[statsman 5450]

Damn. My autocorrect let me down

[gofuckyourself 8197]

27 minutes ago, statsman said:

So, where do the royals get their healthcare? It’s not the NHS, is it?

[Bevo&Pevo 5120]

11 hours ago, DCA_HORN said:

So will the Brits finally shut this whole charade down when the old man and Kate kick the bucket?

You know, we could start a pool for one or the other.  Winner takes all. 

['stache 21790]

On 3/22/2024 at 11:56 PM, Stringer said:

The gossip mongers are out of control in the UK. I concede that but disagree with the rest.

The people of England are entitled to their business. This is not a private citizen. Their source of income is public funds and entire reason for being at this point is to be a public face. They 100% owe transparency to the public. I understand some time to work through it with doctors and your family, but you need to communicate with the public (who again, 100% pays for the largesse) ASAP. Hiding behind photoshops and fake photo ops is irresponsible to the people that pay for their lives.

Their literal existence is to be a public figure. Nothing else. They don’t govern, they don’t negotiate on state visits, they exist, period. I cannot comprehend what would have been wrong with a press release several months ago: “The Princess is being treated for cancer, please keep her in your thoughts, and we ask for privacy at this time.”

There, the gossips will still gossip, but the truth is out. Also, again because their only job is to be famous, shouldn’t she use this for cancer awareness and fundraising? I just don’t understand why people think they are private citizens.

Edited March 24 by 'stache

[statsman 5450]

43 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Their literal existence is to be a public figure. Nothing else. They don’t govern, they don’t negotiate on state visits, they exist, period. I cannot comprehend what would have been wrong with a press release several months ago: “The Princess is being treated for cancer, please keep her in your thoughts, and we ask for privacy at this time.”

There, the gossips will still gossip, but the truth is out. Also, again because their only job is to be famous, shouldn’t she use this for cancer awareness and fundraising? I just don’t understand why people think they are private citizens.

You’re recommending they handle her medical situation the same way as King Charles’, and that went fine for him. Why wouldn’t/couldn’t they do the same for her?

[Cap33 384]

4 hours ago, statsman said:

Why wouldn’t/couldn’t they do the same for her?

It would have been the best approach. Here' my theory about why they didn't: Charles is widely considered to be a transitional king, but Will and Kate are the future. Charles's diagnosis, while concerning, wasn't all that surprising for a man his age. OTOH, Kate's is troubling given her age, and it threatens the RF's image of vitality and stability. Combine that with their desire to protect their kids and William's well-known distrust of the press and obsession with privacy, and you've got a PR disaster that writes itself.

And I hope I'm wrong about this, but I wonder if her condition is more serious, and that's what set off the panic-induced series of lies.

At least they were smart enough to not share the news with the Duke and Duchess of Montecito ahead of time. No way they would have had the restraint to STFU until the video was released.

[Sawbonz 27527]

2 hours ago, Cap33 said:

Charles is widely considered to be a transitional king, but Will and Kate are the future

What

 

eta I feel for her and her family regardless of my feelings about the concept of a royal family. At her age anything found in the pelvis or abdomen is probably aggressive and stage 3 or 4 at diagnosis. 

Edited March 24 by Sawbonz

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

7 hours ago, statsman said:

You’re recommending they handle her medical situation the same way as King Charles’, and that went fine for him. Why wouldn’t/couldn’t they do the same for her?

I see your point, and yet it is slightly different. His children, William and Harry, are grown. William and Kate have a young family and for all their position and issues, when this type of situation hits your family if you're a parent of young children, it's tough. Our own family had to figure out ( away from ANY of the extraneous things that being a royal would bring) how to handle this. It's not an easy road to travel regardless. That mistakes were made with respect to communicating with their citizenry that were exacerbated by certain media sectors is of no small consequence but what a maelstrom of emotion to endure. Sure, they've got wealth, power, and prestige, but they face death as surely as the least of these.

[MadBurgerMaker 404]

On 3/22/2024 at 3:47 PM, Ghost of LL said:

Fuck--the Reptilians' secret base really is underneath Denver International Airport.

Fake news.  That's just where the new world order types plan to hide out when the nukes fly.  The lizard people base is in Dulce (e: New Mexico, that is). 

Edited March 25 by MadBurgerMaker

[CoTex 1160]

On 3/24/2024 at 11:28 AM, 'stache said:

Their literal existence is to be a public figure. Nothing else. They don’t govern, they don’t negotiate on state visits, they exist, period.

Defender of the Faith my good fellow.

Get thee hastily to a church for a Holy Week refresher.

[Armybrat 40815]

So,King Charles has pancreatic cancer and two years to live….

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1173774-new-details-about-king-charles-funeral-plans-cancer-is-worse

[Pato del Muerto 52484]

Quote

even Queen Camilla is said to be frustrated by Charles’ declining health and weakened status. 

“Behind the scenes, Camilla is disgusted by the king’s apparent weakness and is providing him little comfort as he battles his fatal cancer,” a palace courtier told In Touch in early March.”

Wtf is this shit?  Send her ass to the Tower of London for the rest of her days. 

[Homercles 10205]

On 3/22/2024 at 5:03 PM, Boss Hogg said:

Also, I don't think of an appendectomy as major abdominal surgery. 

[Thetexashammer 1062]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Wtf is this shit?  Send her ass to the Tower of London for the rest of her days. 

Narrator: Its not a Tower.

The first time I went, I was like "so when do we get there" LOL.

Edited March 30 by Thetexashammer

[WBT 20559]

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

So,King Charles has pancreatic cancer and two years to live….

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1173774-new-details-about-king-charles-funeral-plans-cancer-is-worse

 

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Wtf is this shit?  Send her ass to the Tower of London for the rest of her days. 

seems legit

[rage-a-holic 4371]

1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

The first time I went, I was like "so when do we get there" LOL.

Yeah, took my girlfriend to London last summer. Walked up to the Tower entrance queue and asked if she wanted to take the tour.

"Of that thing? Why?"

[BamaATL 16593]

18 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Yeah, took my girlfriend to London last summer. Walked up to the Tower entrance queue and asked if she wanted to take the tour.

"Of that thing? Why?"

Just remember, they didn't steal the crown jewels, they were conquered.  From what I recall, they were quick to tell you this, and often.  

[tx 3 putt 76862]

3 hours ago, Armybrat said:

So,King Charles has pancreatic cancer and two years to live….

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1173774-new-details-about-king-charles-funeral-plans-cancer-is-worse

Damn, wish him all the best

[Chad Fuck 17658]

Yeah, took my girlfriend to London last summer. Walked up to the Tower entrance queue and asked if she wanted to take the tour.
"Of that thing? Why?"

She sounds gorgeous. Pics?

even Queen Camilla is said to be frustrated by Charles’ declining health and weakened status. 
“Behind the scenes, Camilla is disgusted by the king’s apparent weakness and is providing him little comfort as he battles his fatal cancer,” a palace courtier told In Touch in early March.”

Wtf is this shit?  Send her ass to the Tower of London for the rest of her days. 

Seems like the kind of thing someone who has an axe to grind against Camilla might write.

[956 Worldwide 34695]

49 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Yeah, took my girlfriend to London last summer. Walked up to the Tower entrance queue and asked if she wanted to take the tour.

"Of that thing? Why?"

Wtf? The Yeoman Warder’s tour of the Tower is legit one of the coolest things to do in London.  The best is to arrive in time for the first tour of the day to beat lines and have a warden who is just starting the day. 

[rage-a-holic 4371]

29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Wtf? The Yeoman Warder’s tour of the Tower is legit one of the coolest things to do in London.  The best is to arrive in time for the first tour of the day to beat lines and have a warden who is just starting the day. 

Yes, I'm aware it's cool and I've taken the tour. She's 23. If there aren't 100k IG influencer pics standing next to something, it's probably not cool.

[Chad Fuck 17658]

Wtf? The Yeoman Warder’s tour of the Tower is legit one of the coolest things to do in London.  The best is to arrive in time for the first tour of the day to beat lines and have a warden who is just starting the day. 

We did just that for Spring Break this year and it was the best. Chad Jr loved it.

[DCA_HORN 725]

Just now, rage-a-holic said:

Yes, I'm aware it's cool and I've taken the tour. She's 23. If there aren't 100k IG influencer pics standing next to something, it's probably not cool.

Solid humblebrag

[Pato del Muerto 52484]

3 minutes ago, DCA_HORN said:

Solid humblebrag

I’m not locating the humility

[956 Worldwide 34695]

4 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Yes, I'm aware it's cool and I've taken the tour. She's 23. If there aren't 100k IG influencer pics standing next to something, it's probably not cool.

Ok you maybe have done something more fun in London.