2020 CFP National Championship Game: #3 Clemson @ #1 LSU - Sugar Bowl on ESPN

[NowThis 931]

LSU could have easily put up 56:  WR Chase dropped a TD; LSU took a knee on the final drive inside the Clemson 10.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Making Joe Burrow play the whole game must be a moral victory for Clemson 

[Wally Fairway 5,570]

OBJ celebrating on the field with the team (and making it rain)

 

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

OBJ celebrating on the field with the team (and making it rain)
 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

Came here to post that. Fucking joke. 

Edited January 14, 2020 by fattyflattie

[TXSG8R 3,362]

50 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I was eating lunch yesterday at some local dive diner, and ESPN was on the TV. Those douchebag idiots were claiming Lawrence might be the best college football player of all time.

 

Curse. lulz.

He certainly might get there, its hard to believe that he hit his ceiling already.  Sometimes you need a kick in the ass to realize that you still have room to improve.  Its not like he was out there making bad reads, his throws were just off.  That can be corrected. 

Burrow is living fucking proof of that, his progression in one year is hard to wrap your head around.  

Stats | CMP	ATT	CMP%	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	LNG	RTG
2019 | 	402	527	76.3	5,671	10.8	60	6	78	202.0
2018 | 	219	379	57.8	2,894	7.6	16	5	71	133.2

 

[GreenspointTexas 9,662]

36 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

OBJ celebrating on the field with the team (and making it rain)

 

Lolol

[Js1 85,448]

55 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Making Joe Burrow play the whole game must be a moral victory for Clemson 

holy shit you won we got it. Shut up

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

Ohio State and LSU fans are the two worst fan bases in college football.

[Dennis Taylor 18,846]

57 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

OBJ celebrating on the field with the team (and making it rain)

 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

17 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Ohio State and LSU fans are the two worst fan bases in college football.

I was actually trying to think of a trashier fan base last night. Settled on the notion that LSU fans are like aggy. One on one, many are salt of the earth types.  In a crowd, I’d rather hang out with ISIS. 

[NowThis 931]

4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I was actually trying to think of a trashier fan base last night. Settled on the notion that LSU fans are like aggy. One on one, many are salt of the earth types.  In a crowd, I’d rather hang out with ISIS. 

and there's OU, remember them?

[sidis 9,832]

24 minutes ago, Js1 said:

holy shit you won we got it. Shut up

he didn't do shit.

[Goredho 17,413]

1 hour ago, usmc0331horn said:

Wtf can Texas do to get at the level these teams are? They seemed like they are two deep NFL talent at every position.

Recruit well over 5+ years and have a competent staff when there is a critical mass of Jr/Sr talent.

[fattyflattie 4,639]

2 minutes ago, NowThis said:

and there's OU, remember them?

Yep. But I can’t really say the same about them being salt of the earth individually.  So aggy and LSU should know better; it’s the fact they can’t help themselves that irritates me. 

[Don Johnson 4,754]

13 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

His college career was over the second the buzzer sounded.

[Dennis Taylor 18,846]

1 minute ago, Don Johnson said:

His college career was over the second the buzzer sounded.

Yeah I'm sure Beckham stopped with him and certainly didn't give anyone else any cash behind closed doors or at any other time

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Lolol. OBJ is about one or two levels above Antonio Brown

[fattyflattie 4,639]

12 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

His college career was over the second the buzzer sounded.

Jontre Kirklin, the guy who was handed cash next?   Pretty sure he’s not declaring. 

[Nivek 16,946]

Looks like the NCAA needs to hand out another sanctioning against the broke Suburu players.

[Napoleon 8,692]

13 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Yeah I'm sure Beckham stopped with him and certainly didn't give anyone else any cash behind closed doors or at any other time

Clemson has one of the two or three highest paid rosters in college football. Players get paid. 

I bet OBJ wishes that Cleveland was the Ohio team with the #1 pick, not Cincinnati. 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

3 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

Clemson has one of the two or three highest paid rosters in college football

Also accurate.  Cue the orange door tweet that was circulating recently.

[Cajun 11,722]

1 hour ago, Wally Fairway said:

OBJ celebrating on the field with the team (and making it rain)

 

Holy shit!  I, uh, um, what?

[CooterBrown 18,015]

Anyone else catch Herbstreit's comment at the end of the game that LSU hires the best players?  Oops.

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

1 hour ago, Bevo VIII said:

Ohio State and LSU fans are the two worst fan bases in college football.

I feel like LSU fans are fine. Fun to drink with. By and large they haven’t had a team that was really unlikable unless you want to count this years team. Bama fans and Gator fans (and aggy of course) are easily the worst in the SEC.

[TXSG8R 3,362]

11 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Also accurate.  Cue the orange door tweet that was circulating recently.

https://247sports.com/college/south-carolina/Board/44/Contents/Meanwhile-in-Clemson-137376601/?page=1

[A’Dam Psycho 1,470]

10 hours ago, TXSG8R said:

Those guys would have helped, but you have to have some pretty amazing corners on top of that, like 3 legit lockdown corners to be able to hold up against that WR corps.  Clemson is loaded, and they still had 42 hung on them.  The stars aligned with Brady coming in and having Burrow and this group of receivers, and 22 to hand the ball off to. That little fucker is such a major factor and he never gets enough credit. Critical first downs, huge momentum shifting runs, absolute beast at killing clock.
 

LSU will be more mortal next year with Burrow gone, kind of like Clemson came back down to earth a little with the group that left them last year. Not sure of it was a case of the big head or just forgetting how young a Lawrence is, but I expect him to assert himself next year and have a Clemson right back in it. They have just stockpiled too much talent to have a big drop off. 

Honestly that game against LSU next season is gonna tell me all I need to know about this Texas team in 2020. If these players or coaches have any cojones, we’ll win that game. We have the experience advantage at every position except WR. I can’t imagine them coming out uninspired for that game

[TXSG8R 3,362]

2 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Honestly that game against LSU next season is gonna tell me all I need to know about this Texas team in 2020. If these players or coaches have any cojones, we’ll win that game. We have the experience advantage at every position except WR. I can’t imagine them coming out uninspired for that game

LSU has a ton of Juniors, I wonder how many are going to bolt trying to ride the championship wave.  

 

[Pimphand 5,808]

13 hours ago, NowThis said:

how is Red Granges cousin so young when he played 100 years ago?

I'm assuming it was cousin twice or thrice removed they just didn't specify the last part.

[horn4life 3,774]

There is a reason I have given LSU the nickname Low SAT University.

[fattyflattie 4,639]

53 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

https://247sports.com/college/south-carolina/Board/44/Contents/Meanwhile-in-Clemson-137376601/?page=1

Penitentiary to home ownership to scrip club owner.  The old man seems to be doing OK, anyhow. 

[pacman 7,364]

2 hours ago, Bevo VIII said:

LSUs Jefferson is already gone, top 15 pick in April maybe. It doesn't matter how much he takes now.

[fattyflattie 4,639]

4 minutes ago, pacman said:

LSUs Jefferson is already gone, top 15 pick in April maybe. It doesn't matter how much he takes now.

Covered above, but the second player he hands cash too isn't gone.  Just a Fuck you to the NCAA from LSU.  Nothing to see here.

Edited January 14, 2020 by fattyflattie

[Wally Fairway 5,570]

LSU stating that OBJ was just playin' and that is was fake money
(wink, wink, nod, nod, say no more, know what I mean, know what I mean....wink, wink)

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_eff8e598-36df-11ea-b482-bbe0c0e391e9.html

[A’Dam Psycho 1,470]

What ever happened to the LSU embezzlement case?

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

13 hours ago, C-Man said:

LSU is about to claim national championships coached by Les Miles and Ed Orgeron — Coach Potato U.

i love when people assume O is dumb and/or not worth a shit...

in his 49 games as the LSU head coach...24 have been played against Top 25 teams. he's won 17 of those games.  but when you look closer at LSU's record against Top 10 opponents, Coach O is 12-3 in games...including 8 straight dating back to the UCF game last year.

another way of looking at it: dating back to last year's Fiesta Bowl Coach O has us on a 16 game winning streak,  with 8 of those wins came against Top 10 teams.

Coach O can flat out get it done.

 

[Tex Pete 20,407]

13 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

i love when people assume O is dumb and/or not worth a shit...

in his 49 games as the LSU head coach...24 have been played against Top 25 teams. he's won 17 of those games.  but when you look closer at LSU's record against Top 10 opponents, Coach O is 12-3 in games...including 8 straight dating back to the UCF game last year.

another way of looking at it: dating back to last year's Fiesta Bowl Coach O has us on a 16 game winning streak,  with 8 of those wins came against Top 10 teams.

Coach O can flat out get it done.

I don't know that I think Ed is smart, but he's an affable guy, he's a good motivator, and he did a great job making new hires for his staff and letting them do their job. Kudos to him.

As much as I think he's a lying asshole for the fake cramps and A/C bullshit, I respect what he did with his team this season.

[C-Man 27,236]

14 hours ago, Dutch said:

This. He doesn’t look right.

Guess we were wrong. Or the pain-killers finally kicked in as he just stepped on Clemson's throat in the later stages.

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1,084]

4 hours ago, Bevo VIII said:

If Lane Kiffin keeps up his Twitter game at Ole Miss, things are gonna be lit!

[Vic Mackey 47,090]

3 hours ago, TXSG8R said:

He certainly might get there, its hard to believe that he hit his ceiling already.  Sometimes you need a kick in the ass to realize that you still have room to improve.  Its not like he was out there making bad reads, his throws were just off.  That can be corrected. 

Burrow is living fucking proof of that, his progression in one year is hard to wrap your head around.  

Stats | CMP	ATT	CMP%	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	LNG	RTG
2019 | 	402	527	76.3	5,671	10.8	60	6	78	202.0
2018 | 	219	379	57.8	2,894	7.6	16	5	71	133.2

 

This shit does not even seem real. I don't think I've ever seen a QB progress that much in one year. Holy shit.  It's like going down to the easy level on a  video game and just dominating because its so easy. Props to him. One of the best QBs I have seen at this level for a given season. 

[jinx 2,635]

2 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

Anyone else catch Herbstreit's comment at the end of the game that LSU hires the best players?  Oops.

I was about to post the same thing.  Pretty sure that was what I heard, but never rewound to confirm.  Thanks for the confirmation.  And props to Herbstreit for admitting the truth.

[C-Man 27,236]

12 hours ago, satyanash said:

 

Seemed like he was trying to throw the ball through a fucking brick wall and everything sailed high. He was not good last night, that's for sure. I thought we'd get more deep balls to tall WR's such as Higgins and Ross like last year against Bama. They got one to Higgins but it was called back due to a bullshit offensive PI call against Higgins.

[jinx 2,635]

14 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

I don't know that I think Ed is smart, but he's an affable guy, he's a good motivator, and he did a great job making new hires for his staff and letting them do their job. Kudos to him.

As much as I think he's a lying asshole for the fake cramps and A/C bullshit, I respect what he did with his team this season.

So pretty much the exact opposite of Herman.  Got it.

 

2 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Honestly that game against LSU next season is gonna tell me all I need to know about this Texas team in 2020. If these players or coaches have any cojones, we’ll win that game. We have the experience advantage at every position except WR. I can’t imagine them coming out uninspired for that game

Not sure that cojones will matter, but I have almost zero confidence that our players will be coached well enough to win that game.

[ATLLonghorn 857]

14 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

I don't know that I think Ed is smart, but he's an affable guy, he's a good motivator, and he did a great job making new hires for his staff and letting them do their job. Kudos to him.

Ed Oregeron has been coaching for 30 years. He's the physical embodiment of the neanderthal, rub some dirt on it FOOTBAW guy. He was smart enough, and humble enough, to realize power based, run offenses aren't going to win championships in college football anymore. Saban was winning with that shit, but even he realized that the game was changing and he allowed Alabama to open the offense up. Nobody could've ever predicted Burrow would be THIS, but Orgeron knew he had something as well as a wealth of skill position weapons so he trusted a relatively unknown dude to come in and reshape the offense. It was a gamble and it very clearly worked out.

Orgeron is like Dabo. I don't think anyone will ever think he's a tactical genius, but he paid his assistants well and delegated to them. This is the era of the CEO coach in college football. Nick Saban is a once in a generation coach, trying to find someone like him is fools gold. Dabo's extreme religious fanaticism plays well to recruits and their mothers. Ed O is the perfect representative for Louisiana culture. They're charismatic, smart leaders who delegate to smart coaches. 

I'm super impressed by his willingness to try something different even if it was counter to his every instinct as a football coach. His humility and willingness to delegate is completely antithetical to the way Texas football is run currently.

[TXSG8R 3,362]

7 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

This shit does not even seem real. I don't think I've ever seen a QB progress that much in one year. Holy shit.  It's like going down to the easy level on a  video game and just dominating because its so easy. Props to him. One of the best QBs I have seen at this level for a given season. 

Yea, that's why I had hope going into the game this year.  Florida fucked Burrow up in 2018.  He was 19-34, 192 yards and 2 picks.  I knew he had improved, but I also thought that teams just weren't playing LSU right, or didn't have the right mix of guys on D to hold up in the back until pressure could get home.  Granted we were missing our two best pass rushers for the bulk of that game, but it might have been a 7 point swing if anything.  This offense was just a machine, and short of an NFL defensive backfield, there was no slowing this team down.  

This is why Joe Brady should be the highest paid assistant in college football, and should probably be making close to ogre money.  What he did with that QB and receivers in one offseason is unreal.  

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,797]

6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Seemed like he was trying to throw the ball through a fucking brick wall and everything sailed high. He was not good last night, that's for sure. I thought we'd get more deep balls to tall WR's such as Higgins and Ross like last year against Bama. They got one to Higgins but it was called back due to a bullshit offensive PI call against Higgins.

I think the playcalling really screwed Lawrence up. ETN was running over LSU and Elliot refused to give him the ball. Also, look at that overthrow chart, one ball in the deep middle. One. Get your head out of your ass and call some different plays, besides Higgins/Ross down the sideline. 

[bullet 1,597]

5 hours ago, usmc0331horn said:

Wtf can Texas do to get at the level these teams are? They seemed like they are two deep NFL talent at every position.

Mack got complacent and lazy at the end.  Charlie was always a lazy recruiter.  It takes time and success.

[NowThis 931]

would be very interesting to see a before (2018) and after (2019) look of the LSU offense in an Xs and Os breakdown.

[C-Man 27,236]

2 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I think the playcalling really screwed Lawrence up. ETN was running over LSU and Elliot refused to give him the ball. Also, look at that overthrow chart, one ball in the deep middle. One. Get your head out of your ass and call some different plays, besides Higgins/Ross down the sideline. 

I got so frustrated with Lawrence continuously trying to muscle 35-40 yard sideline throws that would've gained about 8-10 yards if he hadn't airmailed them.

[TXSG8R 3,362]

1 minute ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I think the playcalling really screwed Lawrence up. ETN was running over LSU and Elliot refused to give him the ball. Also, look at that overthrow chart, one ball in the deep middle. One. Get your head out of your ass and call some different plays, besides Higgins/Ross down the sideline. 

That's really hard to do by design.  LSU has Delpit playing cleanup in the middle of the field and he eats up a ton of space on anything not driven.  Might be why Lawrence was throwing so hard.  Looking Delpit off one way and throwing the opposite boundary is about the only safe throw you have deep.