7th Dem 2020 Debate (last before Iowa)

[bad_teammate 13132]

Steyer - Warren - Biden - Sanders - Buttigieg - Klobuchar

Expectations:
- CNN will try to build up the Warren/Sanders drama
- Bernie will try to go after Biden
- Klobuchar will have an "I think women CAN win" line prepared
- Steyer will claim to be the only candidate to be talking about something they all talk about
- Buttigieg will continue to be hated by everyone else on stage
- The all-whiteness of the panel will be brought up

[Incredulity 11564]

“We have no response, that was perfect.”

[elfenix 34171]

we know that none of you white people in the audience actually like joe biden and he's your fifth choice but he's still better than trump

[henrygandorf 29176]

8 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

- CNN will try to build up the Warren/Sanders drama

one of the first questions will be to bernie.  "senator sanders, there was a story that came out that you told elizabeth warren that a woman cannot win the presidency.  do you believe that a woman cannot win?"

if he talks about how the story was misconstrued or the conversation was misinterpreted in some way, he loses the round.  if he ignores the premise and gives a 45 second answer about how a woman can definitely win and we're way overdue (or some such), then he wins.  i think 95% chance he's already memorized the latter.  if he hasn't, his people screwed this up.

the stupid slack/volunteer thing likely won't make it into a debate.

the drama should be over by 6:03pm (pst).

[atomheartbevo 89429]

Warren came on hard.  

But any of these people would be better than Trump.  

[bad_teammate 13132]

Biden is the Forrest Gump of the US government. He was everywhere at all times and in charge of everything.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Two great answers from Warren.

[bonnieblue 542]

 I loathe these overly-dramatized personal anecdotes. 

[Zombie 284]

I like Joe, but he constantly makes half of a point, then pivots to a new thought without completing the prior thought. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

11 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Biden is the Forrest Gump of the US government. He was everywhere at all times and in charge of everything.

Just ask Obama 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2630]

I miss yang 

[bonnieblue 542]

Just now, longhornmatt said:

Buttigieg is somehow getting worse at coming across as authentic as this process goes on.  Usually the candidates get better at campaigning instead of worse.

I think he would finally gain ground with black voters if he cut out the "debate competition" voice. I have nothing to back that up, but will someone please send that to his campaign manager. It's killing me

[Zombie 284]

4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Watching this with my wife, so now the topic of conversation is the real issue of the election:  why the fuck does Klobuchar have one arched eyebrow and one flat one?

Now that's all I see when she speaks. 

Edited January 15, 2020 by Zombie

[bonnieblue 542]

They went too heavy on the eyebrow pencil as well. They are waaay darker than normal.

[JimmyJames 12271]

9 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Buttigieg is somehow getting worse at coming across as authentic as this process goes on.  Usually the candidates get better at campaigning instead of worse.

He is getting worse. Bernie and Biden have both gotten better. The rest are the same. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

Warren is so fucking good when talking about trade.

[bad_teammate 13132]

This CNN woman is absolutely terrible. Who is this?

 

[burntorangebongos 10681]

Oh, here it comes. 

[bonnieblue 542]

Warren and Bern are looking really sharp tonight. Love Warren making her responses more direct than in prior debates and Bernie is doing really well with his humor and pivoting from disingenuous questions.

[Incredulity 11564]

Claws out

[Anastasis 23395]

Wow. Did warren just basically say that Bern was lying?

[Dbeasy 14968]

Warren with the line of the night.

[bonnieblue 542]

DAMN.

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2630]

Just now, Anastasis said:

Wow. Did warren just basically say that Bern was lying?

Low key, but yes. It seems she did 

[ChiTownDoc 21101]

Is Klobuchar high?  

[Dbeasy 14968]

He is getting worse. Bernie and Biden have both gotten better. The rest are the same. 

Smarmy comes to mind. He now grates on me too and a few months ago I liked his performances.

[Mo Horn 8807]

My good friend governor what's her name in Kansas

[Incredulity 11564]

Just now, ChiTownDoc said:

Is Klobuchar high?  

Making Biden seem eloquent 

[Anastasis 23395]

Just now, Xian said:

Low key, but yes. It seems she did 

The moderator asked the question in a way that assumed Bernie was not telling the truth. The mod should have made warren come out with it. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

I feel bad for Amy over that brain glitch.

[Radical Larry 28528]

Klobuchar: I know her name. What is her name?

[ChiTownDoc 21101]

Just now, Incredulity said:

Making Biden seem eloquent 

She nailed the Beavis laugh.  Props, I guess. 

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

I was told there would be no math. - Bernie

[bad_teammate 13132]

2020 - 1990 = 30 years

Liz needs to call up Andrew Yang for MATH

[Anastasis 23395]

What happens if a candidate dies between the convention and Election Day. Could see it happening with Trump, Biden or Bernie. 

[henrygandorf 29176]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

one of the first questions will be to bernie.  "senator sanders, there was a story that came out that you told elizabeth warren that a woman cannot win the presidency.  do you believe that a woman cannot win?"

if he talks about how the story was misconstrued or the conversation was misinterpreted in some way, he loses the round.  if he ignores the premise and gives a 45 second answer about how a woman can definitely win and we're way overdue (or some such), then he wins.  i think 95% chance he's already memorized the latter.  if he hasn't, his people screwed this up.

he got the question, and he fucked it up.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Just now, Anastasis said:

What happens if a candidate dies between the convention and Election Day. Could see it happening with Trump, Biden or Bernie. 

Bernie and Joe are knock knock knockin' on heaven's door

[burntorangebongos 10681]

I believe that they genuinely have a difference of understanding of what was said. Bern said he didn't say it but I'm sure he meant that very thing. And/or she interpreted what he said as a woman can't win.  I believe both.

[Message Board User 12389]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

What happens if a candidate dies between the convention and Election Day. Could see it happening with Trump, Biden or Bernie. 

Trial by combat to see who replaces the deceased on the ticket.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Just now, Message Board User said:

Trial by combat to see who replaces the deceased on the ticket.

EASY fucking win for The Klobbinator

[bad_teammate 13132]

If the "30 years" thing is any indication, Warren and Bernie don't know how to communicate with each other. She seemed genuinely confused about his 1990 win counting for "in the last 30 years" and he had no idea how she missed it. After seeing that between them, it's much easier to see how they could have had a huge misunderstanding about America voting for women.

[Henry Hill 3156]

He can’t come up with a price on M4A because he doesn’t know what’ll it will cost but he knows it’ll be cheaper than the status quo. Ok.

[henrygandorf 29176]

klobuchar has better vegas stories than i do.

[GSU&UT 1798]

Just now, bad_teammate said:

If the "30 years" thing is any indication, Warren and Bernie don't know how to communicate with each other. She seemed genuinely confused about his 1990 win counting for "in the last 30 years" and he had no idea how she missed it. After seeing that between them, it's much easier to see how they could have had a huge misunderstanding about America voting for women.

It was awkward for sure. I really didn't like it even though you know I'm definitely for Bernie. Just have to remind myself that this shit isn't going to really matter for primary voters in the next few weeks.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Just now, Henry Hill said:

He can’t come up with a price on M4A because he doesn’t know what’ll it will cost but he knows it’ll be cheaper than the status quo. Ok.

No one has a price tag for basically any of their plans. Biden thinks we can cover EVERYONE for $74B/year? Fucking lunacy.

[Anastasis 23395]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

If the "30 years" thing is any indication, Warren and Bernie don't know how to communicate with each other. She seemed genuinely confused about his 1990 win counting for "in the last 30 years" and he had no idea how she missed it. After seeing that between them, it's much easier to see how they could have had a huge misunderstanding about America voting for women.

Maths are hard with these two. 

[GSU&UT 1798]

1 minute ago, Henry Hill said:

He can’t come up with a price on M4A because he doesn’t know what’ll it will cost but he knows it’ll be cheaper than the status quo. Ok.

We paid over $6k to have our daughter two years ago because, immediately as a newborn, she had a deductible. That was on top of all the premiums I had to pay. Everyone paying into a single healthcare system would easily be cheaper than rolling the dice on whatever insurance plan your company provides.

[Anastasis 23395]

Sis this guy really kick yang off the stage?

[elfenix 34171]

goddamnit bernie say we're spending 15% gdp and under him we'd cut that by a third that isn't bankrupting which can't happen to a currency issuer anyway

Edited January 15, 2020 by elfenix

[bad_teammate 13132]

These people are saying we are going to get to 100% coverage for pennies. Fantasyland.

At least Bernie and Liz are honest that it will be expensive.