The Senate Trial of Donald J Trump 2020

[Biff Tannen 45694]

1 minute ago, UpperWestside said:

to be this cowardly and spineless sinks the Dotard cult lower than they already are.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33879]

at this point I would bet Trump has kompromat on everyone - Congress, SCOTUS, you name it. If there is/was dirt to be found I bet he did and it's what he is using for leverage. there's no other reasonable explanation. they can't be THAT scared of his base, as that appears to be dwindling by the day.  

[Biff Tannen 45694]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

at this point I would bet Trump has kompromat on everyone - Congress, SCOTUS, you name it. If there is/was dirt to be found I bet he did and it's what he is using for leverage. there's no other reasonable explanation. they can't be THAT scared of his base, as that appears to be dwindling by the day.  

Russian money -> NRA -> Congress

 

Change my mind.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33879]

[Chuckie Finster 22702]

So what is stopping him from holding a presser to do this in public?

100% chance the Republicans would criticize Bolton for not speaking under oath if he revealed the information on television.

[Biff Tannen 45694]

Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

100% chance the Republicans would criticize Bolton for not speaking under oath if he revealed the information on television.

I was referring to Parnas.

[David Dennison 18939]

Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

100% chance the Republicans would criticize Bolton for not speaking under oath if he revealed the information on television.

They'll criticize him no matter what.

He's trying to make as much money off this book as possible.

Fuck him.

[DDD Dad 14344]

26 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

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[burntorangebongos 10750]

Is this true? Holy shit, maybe that is why they called a quorum? To hash shit out? Little girl crossing fingers gif.

[Biff Tannen 45694]

2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Sadly, this gif will be a reminder of what we couldn't do as the country sank into the abyss.

[Biff Tannen 45694]

Just now, burntorangebongos said:

Is this true? Holy shit, maybe that is why they called a quorum? To hash shit out? Little girl crossing fingers gif.

Amendments to what?

[burntorangebongos 10750]

I don't know, i can only get PBS and their commentators are gone. I guess i need to read the twitter thread to see wtf it means.

[Ted Lange 16110]

 

[Chuckie Finster 22702]

I was referring to Parnas.

Him too.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33879]

 

[Anastasis 23480]

Witness question about to be voted. 

[RomaVicta 29947]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

at this point I would bet Trump has kompromat on everyone - Congress, SCOTUS, you name it. If there is/was dirt to be found I bet he did and it's what he is using for leverage. there's no other reasonable explanation. they can't be THAT scared of his base, as that appears to be dwindling by the day.  

The kompromat is the pervasive corruption of the entire GOP. Donald bumbled into the throne room and he both benefits from the graft and holds the threat of exposing all of these crooks.

They never anticipated an outsider seizing the reins of their carefully built and thoroughly shameless hate engine. 

Imagine Trump bringing his own thieving schemes to the party only to discover that an even bigger con job was already in place. 

Trump is a hopeless, malign idiot as a traditional president, but he is in his element as head of the GOP criminal organization.

Just imagine the absurdity of a majority of US senators lining up to praise this champion of anti-corruption in more normal times. It's nuts.

No, those senators have everything to lose by alienating the big orange pustule; that's why they're all in line. They fear the big mouth exposing them all.

All of them, criminal, treasonous cowards whose punishment will never be severe enough.

[bolverk 29694]

14 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

But I was told the impeachment process had backfired (whatever the fuck that means)? Public opinion for impeachment and removal has slowly risen throughout.

[bolverk 29694]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Witness question about to be voted. 

And so the funeral bell of the Republic tolls.

[Pasken 1309]

That’s it. No vote on witnesses.

[Anastasis 23480]

Witness question fails 51-49. Romney goes aye. 

[Eastwood 4394]

The first Tuesday of November will decide the fate of the Republic, now.

[DDD Dad 14344]

What a relief!  Now we can get back to the business of waiting for SCOTUS judges to die.

[hayden_horn 11364]

sham. mockery. farce. 

congratulations, republicans, you're going down in history as fucking complicit in a criminal enterprise run out of the white house.

[hayden_horn 11364]

30 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Russian money -> NRA -> Congress

 

Change my mind.

i've been posting this for years now. that dark russian nra money tho

[Anastasis 23480]

Collins was the other one. 

[Chad Fuck 17698]

Collins was the other one. 

Collins only did it for show because Mitch gave her a pass since he had Murkowski and Alexander in the bag.

What a joke.

[hayden_horn 11364]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Collins was the other one. 

 

Just now, Chad Fuck said:

 

Collins only did it for show because Mitch gave her a pass since he had Murkowski and Alexander in the bag.

What a joke.

 

yeah, real brave of mitt and collins to be 48 & 49 after they knew they had 51. fuck em all.

[DDD Dad 14344]

1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

 

Collins only did it for show because Mitch gave her a pass since he had Murkowski and Alexander in the bag.

What a joke.

 

As I said last night, she had to know that Murkowski and Alexander had her back before she announced as a yes vote.  Romney isn't up for reelection so he could vote as he saw fit.

[Ths71 472]

That’s it. No vote on witnesses.

Wait, what? Weren’t they gonna call the Bidens to expose the Democrats graft? It’s almost like they don’t care about corruption.


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[Anastasis 23480]

House probably shouldn't have rushed the case to meet some arbitrary deadline, and should have kept the ball in the chamber they control while forcing the witnesses they needed to establish the case.  I mean, once they kicked it to the Senate, the outcome was assured. 

[Captainant 27686]

It'll be fun when there's new treason revealed through new evidence and we impeach the motherfucker again. Make the senate vote again and again. Make those fuckers own the death of our democracy

[NameAlreadyInUse 5114]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

House probably shouldn't have rushed the case to meet some arbitrary deadline, and should have kept the ball in the chamber they control while forcing the witnesses they needed to establish the case.  I mean, once they kicked it to the Senate, the outcome was assured. 

Well considering that one of those witnesses they couldn't get in the House has since corroborated the story in his book, and some Republicans have therefore decided that the House was right, Trump did all those things, and fuck it, he's not guilty anyway, what difference do you think that would've made?

[Anastasis 23480]

Just now, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Well considering that one of those witnesses they couldn't get in the House has since corroborated the story in his book, and some Republicans have therefore decided that the House was right, Trump did all those things, and fuck it, he's not guilty anyway, what difference do you think that would've made?

In the end, probably no one difference.  

[triplehorn 2664]

House had to get the bell rolling to scuttle the Trump/Rudy Ukraine scheme.  House showed they have the chops and a stable of capable managers.  
 

Anyone think GOP Senate is up for round 2, 3, or more ?  I don’t.  Their act is already running on fumes.  Show them this was a false summit, with a shit ton of climbing to go until they fucking puke.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[Chuckie Finster 22702]

House probably shouldn't have rushed the case to meet some arbitrary deadline, and should have kept the ball in the chamber they control while forcing the witnesses they needed to establish the case.  I mean, once they kicked it to the Senate, the outcome was assured. 

If they had done that, you would have criticized them for dragging the process out in an election year you disingenuous fuck.

[wildcat09 29357]

9 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

If they had done that, you would have criticized them for dragging the process out in an election year you disingenuous fuck.

I have the strangest erection right now.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Still think obstruction in the Mueller report should have been an independent article.

[Anastasis 23480]

7 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

If they had done that, you would have criticized them for dragging the process out in an election year you disingenuous fuck.

I am not criticizing the House either way really.  I am commenting on the reality of where we stand today, looking at an outcome that was virtually assured once they ceded control of the proceedings to the Senate.  Getting the Senate to go on record was the right decision politically, imo. I said as much early into the process. The question I think is what timing effects the maximum political damage at the ballot box. I am not sure of the answer, but I bet Pelosi is questioning herself on the timing of the impeachment tonight. She already tipped when she held delivery of the articles to the Senate, imo.    

[Anastasis 23480]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Still think obstruction in the Mueller report should have been an independent article.

That ship has sailed Hugo. Last thing that the House is going to do at this point is re-litigate the Russia investigation.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33879]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Still think obstruction in the Mueller report should have been an independent article.

They still can

[Tuco 5076]

House probably shouldn't have rushed the case to meet some arbitrary deadline, and should have kept the ball in the chamber they control while forcing the witnesses they needed to establish the case.  I mean, once they kicked it to the Senate, the outcome was assured. 

I think it worked out about as well as the Dems could have asked for. Instead of the Senate just voting on removal (which is roughly 50/50 in public opinion), they were forced to also vote on calling witnesses (75/25 in public opinion). Bolton’s story will come out regardless. And it’s not like it would have mattered to Republican Senators had it come out in the House.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[Anastasis 23480]

6 minutes ago, Tuco said:

I think it worked out about as well as the Dems could have asked for. Instead of the Senate just voting on removal (which is roughly 50/50 in public opinion), they were forced to also vote on calling witnesses (75/25 in public opinion). Bolton’s story will come out regardless. And it’s not like it would have mattered to Republican Senators had it come out in the House.

Reasonable take. I am not sure that the witness vote is really going to resonate very long, but that is definitely some the democrats will use.  

[DDD Dad 14344]

15 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Still think obstruction in the Mueller report should have been an independent article.

On which Trump summarily would have been acquitted.  Of course, not without some seriously furrowed brows from Senator Collins and a heartfelt 12 tweet thread from Senator Murkowski.

[David Dennison 18939]

I think there's little doubt that Donald Trump will commit one or more impeachable acts between now and November.

Oh well.

[DDD Dad 14344]

11 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

You see, he voted to save our society.  Do not bury him;; praise him.

Edited January 31, 2020 by DDD Dad

[Ted Lange 16110]

 

[David Dennison 18939]

1 minute ago, Ted Lange said:

 

Cunty snowflakes, the lot of them.