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I did the 23 and me test and I’m glad I did it. Although I was pretty sure about my heritage I wanted to get more details. The results were cool. No surprises thus far about relatives and with the parents very old and with only one brother I don’t really care if there’s a long lost half sibling. I’m pretty sure you can keep your results private if that’s your choice.

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11 hours ago, Xian said:

Keep end mind that most of that region was ruled by The Austrian Empire (later austro-hungry) during that time and many German Austrian’s settled everywhere from Poland, to Transylvania , Northern Italy and the Balkans and interwed while keeping “German” culture 

it’s a real cool part of history if you ever want to read up on it. 
 

 

Could also explain a lot of it.  There's definitely some German on that side of the family, but there's far more grab-bag Slavic ancestry than had been assumed.  Based on my percentages, my mom is more Slavic (mix of Serb, Polish, and Russian) than German, and that was definitely not the official story.

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10 hours ago, HouTex said:

I did the 23 and me test and I’m glad I did it. Although I was pretty sure about my heritage I wanted to get more details. The results were cool. No surprises thus far about relatives and with the parents very old and with only one brother I don’t really care if there’s a long lost half sibling. I’m pretty sure you can keep your results private if that’s your choice.

Yeah, I didn't really want to find any lost relatives and unearth anything about unwilling participants, so I opted out of all that.

My only real risk was seeing results that would make it appear that I wasn't my dad's kid, and there's so much plain resemblance between myself and that side of the family that I had zero concern.

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18 hours ago, Dnaguy said:


Ummmm. I pretty sure the stuff I look up on reddit has the step brother and sister boning. Not the half brother and half sister.....

You need to make sure you’re clicking on the right Reddit NSFW categories bro.

He’s quite the drama queen with all the hyperventilating and shivering in the corner of his room.  

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I meant to reply to Viper’s post.
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17 hours ago, hopkinsnhorns said:

There's a 300+ page book published in 1917 that traces my father's namesake all the way back to the first "hopkinsnhorns" to come across the Atlantic and settle in Oyster River, NH circa 1666.  Tracing back beyond that is difficult, as our name origin appears to be Norman-French, even though our ancestors were most likely from England or Ireland (despite family lore of Scottish origin).  It's pretty cool to have such a long history in the states pre-dating the Revolution by over 100 years.  If I thought 23andMe or some other service could trace back farther, I'd do it, but after 16ish generations, I'm sure any matches would be essentially genetic noise.

My wife's sister was gifted this by her now FIL.  It was funny to find that she was 2% Ashkenazi Jew.  We joked that he was just making sure she didn't have too much African DNA before marrying his son.

The FIL gives gifts to his son's wife? 

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16 hours ago, hornbri said:

Isn't this the test where the same people have done it multiple times under different names and gotten different results?

And things like this happen - https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/18/dna-testing-twin-results-show-why-you-should-take-dna-analysis-with-a-grain-of-salt/

My wife and I (along with our kids and one  of my sisters) have had Ancestry.com DNA done. The variations are all within reason, but I’ve thought about getting a 23andMe test to see if they are consistent.

Ancestry initially had me with 1% North African DNA which made some sense since I had a GGF (x whatever) who was a Dutch pirate operating out of NW Africa. The odd thing to me was that as they’ve refined my geographic profile, they’ve eliminated the North African part. Now, they say I’m whitey-white-white. 

My mom’s good-for-nothing father suddenly claimed he was 1/4 Indian (feather), and he went so far as to carry a worn photo of his grandmother as “proof.”  No Native American ever showed up in my DNA, so no Casino money for me. However, my mom didn’t look like his child - her brother kinda did - so maybe he wasn’t her biological father. Grandma was admittedly a bit of a floosie,.

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19 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

This is very true.  My brother bought me one for Xmas last year and I ended up doing it.  My maternal grandfather's parents were both in Belgrade in 1899, but the story gramps had been told was that they were Germans who had moved down the Danube.  That always seemed fishy to me, and lo and behold, I'm like 15% Serbian according to 23 and Me.  I know it's that side, because my brother gave my dad one too.  I clearly matched my Dad's, so it was real easy to figure out what came from Mom.  We saw the same thing with my mom's mom's folks.  They also claimed to be German (and at least one of them was), but my great grandpa had been born in what's currently Poland.  Turned out I was a bit Polish.

Long story short, most of the folks who immigrated to North America (both grandparents and mom were born in Canada) on that side were Eastern European but held themselves out as German for some reason, and it never added up to me, but most of my family just accepted it until I got the results back.

Only surprise on my dad's side was that there was a little British and Italian in the last 150 years, which we thought was fairly well traced to western Germany/Luxembourg.  Italian thing makes sense as we all talk with our hands and can tan well.

That gets into to high German versus low German and the Prussian Empire and it's fall and the 1849 purge of the educated.  Did they speak German?

EDIT- Xian beat me to it.

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3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I could never figure out why people give a shit.  I'm close to my immediate family but if some 7th cousin or some shit shows up at my door, what do you want from me?  I have nothing in common with these people.

As Crash Davis said, the only good outcome is the status quo.

Bingo

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3 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

That gets into to high German versus low German and the Prussian Empire and it's fall and the 1849 purge of the educated.  Did they speak German?

Yes.

My great grandpa (mom's mom's dad) moved to Winnipeg in his late 40's and married a 20 year old who was from the same general area of Europe.  We're pretty sure he was running from another life in Europe, so my suspicion is that he knew both languages and possibly adopted this German image to help conceal his past or keep his first family from finding him.

My great grandma (mom's dad's mom) - one of the ones born in Serbia - used to always call my grandma (her DIL and daughter of great grandfather in previous paragraph) a "dumb Pollack", so I think there was some giveaway in her accent, or something else that made my great grandma suspect what was later confirmed in the DNA test.

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3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I could never figure out why people give a shit.  I'm close to my immediate family but if some 7th cousin or some shit shows up at my door, what do you want from me?  I have nothing in common with these people.

As Crash Davis said, the only good outcome is the status quo.

Back home, anyone claiming to be related past 2nd cousins was colloquially considered "touch-hole relations."  I've got dozens of first cousins and hundreds of 2nd cousins.  I'm not going back farther than that.

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20 hours ago, heinhorn said:

What is the best DNA kit/testing company?  I have done zero research on this, but I'm intrigued.  

It really depends what you're hoping to get out of it. I've written about this on other threads, but FtDNA is the best if you plan to do in-depth types of DNA testing (Y-DNA and Mt-DNA). 23andme used to be the best because it provided medical and other info, but now ancestry has that (extra charge) and there's an inexpensive site (promethease) that will give you an incredible amount of medical info by cross-checking your DNA sequence with all research conducted and tells you what research has found you might be at risk for, be a carrier of, or genetic disorders you might have. I found out I taste bitter really strongly, which explains why I hate coffee. I also found out my wife is a carrier of cystic fibrosis (luckily, I'm not). Overall, i like ancestry the best because you can create your family tree and link it with your an your family members' DNA, then ancestry will confirm or suggest ancestors based on your matches. Much of their stuff costs extra, but it's still pretty useful if you're into that.

16 hours ago, Bevo&Pevo said:

Stepping off in the DNA testing thing is indeed a slippery slope.  Grown up decision with grown up results, better prepare your mind for the "what if" scenario.    If my oldest son ever does one of these he'll find out I'm not his biological dad.  I've raised him since he was 1 yr old.  He doesn't know any different and everyone has agreed to keep it this way.  My other 3 kids are all me  (or should be).  Hope I never need a kidney or something.

Interesting. I figured out through DNA and ancestry.com that my dad's dad was not who we all thought. I also figured out who his real father was and that he has 2 half siblings and I have multiple first cousins. Unfortunately (or fortunately), with the proliferation of these DNA tests, it seems pretty likely that he or his kids will take one and figure it out.

34 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I find tracing your family tree in Ancestry.com, or wherever, 10x more interesting than DNA tests.  Family trees can definitely have gaps if not outright lies, but who raises you is more telling about someone than their DNA.

I agree, but ancestry.com has some really cool tools that can be used in conjunction with your DNA. For example, they'll show you a map of your ethnicity, and DNA matches and link it to your tree. So, you can see where your ancestors lived and when, and how that correlates with your DNA matches. They've also integrated facts about migration patterns, so if your great great grandfather migrated from Ireland to Pennsylvania, they tell you why many people from Ireland moved there at that time. 

Also, as I mentioned above, when you link DNA to your tree, they will comb all your matches and their trees to show you how you're related to them, which can help confirm (or disconfirm, as happened with my grandfather) your ancestry.

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4 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I could never figure out why people give a shit.  I'm close to my immediate family but if some 7th cousin or some shit shows up at my door, what do you want from me?  I have nothing in common with these people.

As Crash Davis said, the only good outcome is the status quo.

My give-a-shit drops off considerably once it gets beyond second cousin once removed. 

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25 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Your family must suck.  Most of my first cousins are a hoot.  Hell, I have multiple second cousins I'm close with.

Neither I now my wife have anything in common at all with our first cousins.  I have some I haven’t seen in 30 years and I’m not missing much.

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12 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Neither I now my wife have anything in common at all with our first cousins.  I have some I haven’t seen in 30 years and I’m not missing much.

Yeah, I'm not really knocking it.  I don't think you should care more about someone just because you share genes, but it's always cool when the people you do share genetic material are similar to you, or at least likable when they aren't.

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So this thread got me looking at my 23andMe report again. Every now and then they tweak it, and so your 9% French/German ass might be Dutch for a while (happened to me) but now my 9% Dutch ass is French/German again. And there I'd been, trying to get my English perfect, dammit.

So anyway, if you are part British or Irish, a new feature is that they break it down into whatever administrative regions they think your ancestors most likely came from. My British stuff is scattered, but there is this hard knot of six or seven counties from Lancashire to Merseyside, Manchester, down to Nottingham. Lines up almost perfectly with the old British kingdom of South Rheged. RHHHHHeged, boyo. More to the point, includes Liverpool. As in, I could have been a fucking Beatle, but SOMEBODY just had to leave a couple hundred years early.

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My aunt got into thus stuff after my grandparents had both passed and learned that she and my mom have a sister (and me an aunt) they never knew of that lives in Austin. I haven't met her yet, but it's interesting to learn something significant about a grandparent you didn't know.  

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On 1/21/2020 at 10:30 AM, ImissWallyPryor said:

My wife and I (along with our kids and one  of my sisters) have had Ancestry.com DNA done. The variations are all within reason, but I’ve thought about getting a 23andMe test to see if they are consistent.

Ancestry initially had me with 1% North African DNA which made some sense since I had a GGF (x whatever) who was a Dutch pirate operating out of NW Africa. The odd thing to me was that as they’ve refined my geographic profile, they’ve eliminated the North African part. Now, they say I’m whitey-white-white. 

My mom’s good-for-nothing father suddenly claimed he was 1/4 Indian (feather), and he went so far as to carry a worn photo of his grandmother as “proof.”  No Native American ever showed up in my DNA, so no Casino money for me. However, my mom didn’t look like his child - her brother kinda did - so maybe he wasn’t her biological father. Grandma was admittedly a bit of a floosie,.

Is it cool having your mom run for president? Being first kid would be cool.

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21 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Some chick on tweeted something about "my aunt wants to surprise my mom with a 23and Me for her birthday. She showed up to swab my cheek right after I got done blowing my boyfriend.  We'll see who's DNA comes back"

That’s sad.

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So I've got a funny story.  Well, funny because it turned out well.  

Long story short.  I went through a really long and shitty custody battle over my daughter in the late 90's.  It was pretty well documented on the old board (and Hornfans).  One thing I never did was get a paternity test.  In trying to understand my emotions in retrospect, I guess I fought so hard for her that I didn't want it all to turn out for nothing if, by chance, she wasn't mine.  There was always that tiny voice in the back of my head thinking... what if.  I was there when she was born and, as far as I was concerned, she was mine either way.

Fast forward to last year.  I get a kit for Christmas and decide to see where my peeps are from.  When you get the results and log in, you get a list of DNA matches starting with the closest. First thing I see is my daughter's name as my closest match.  I call her and she tells me that she had done the ancestry.com test a few months earlier.  Case closed.

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On 1/24/2020 at 3:52 PM, RDCanecutter said:

So this thread got me looking at my 23andMe report again. Every now and then they tweak it, and so your 9% French/German ass might be Dutch for a while (happened to me) but now my 9% Dutch ass is French/German again. And there I'd been, trying to get my English perfect, dammit.

So anyway, if you are part British or Irish, a new feature is that they break it down into whatever administrative regions they think your ancestors most likely came from. My British stuff is scattered, but there is this hard knot of six or seven counties from Lancashire to Merseyside, Manchester, down to Nottingham. Lines up almost perfectly with the old British kingdom of South Rheged. RHHHHHeged, boyo. More to the point, includes Liverpool. As in, I could have been a fucking Beatle, but SOMEBODY just had to leave a couple hundred years early.

YNWA.

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