Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[MoJames 8256]

6 minutes ago, Xian said:

So Reddit is saying the Chinese made an airborne aids?  Joy. 

Yep, they have their best working on it.

[Surly Bevo 25178]

So Reddit is saying the Chinese made an airborne aids?  Joy. 

[gecko 1104]

[Bevo 13601]

1 hour ago, MoJames said:

Another reddit entry.

Well, at least that guy knows what he is talking about. Since he says he used BLAST, I assume he did and the sequence is as short as he states and is pretty well conserved between RNA viruses.

[0xdeadbeef 1652]

2 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

I still dont understand why the majority of the business in the world has to be done in person

 

its 2020, skype motherfuckers or facetime em or something. Traveling for business always cracks me up

Dude, it's 2020. Skype is for Olds.   Don't you know that Discord is what the cool kids use.

 

[Bigbend1812 12942]

2 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

Soooooo...I'm not going to take the word of a blue check, the supposed paper hasn't been peer reviewed, and of course any phony can twitter troll some panic.  But I'll just leave this here:

 

 

 

[MissingInAction 25204]

3 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

In doses it works but humans have some fucking low attention spans these days and you put them in remote meeting after remote meeting where they got Surly and porn and Insta and everything else distracting them on the side and a lot of shit doesn't get done or gets done real slowly and poorly.  

 

Do you even cell phone bro? Those same disrractions exist at work. I do 90% of my posting at work.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13120]

2 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Wash their hands. 

I tried that lube once but must be allergic to it.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13120]

2 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Wash their hands. 

I tried that lube once but must be allergic to it.

[Deej 76946]

Once?

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13120]

4 minutes ago, Deej said:

Once?

Busted.

[Bevo 13601]

24 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

I tried that lube once but must be allergic to it.

NowThis ?

[leaf 700]

I’m flying back from Vietnam now.  Connecting flight in Hong Kong. The flight attendant said that most major American Airlines are canceling flights starting tomorrow.    If true, I’m lucky I got out when I did. 

[Sbbruin 21898]

9 minutes ago, leaf said:

I’m flying back from Vietnam now.  Connecting flight in Hong Kong. The flight attendant said that most major American Airlines are canceling flights starting tomorrow.    If true, I’m lucky I got out when I did. 

[Pato del Muerto 52616]

Wife came home today with a cabinet worth of cleaning stuff, wet wipes, and masks. She is prepared for our big trip to...

 

sarasota. If she lets us go, and if the Denver and Tampa airports haven’t been locked down over the next week. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19227]

22 minutes ago, leaf said:

I’m flying back from Vietnam now.  Connecting flight in Hong Kong. The flight attendant said that most major American Airlines are canceling flights starting tomorrow.    If true, I’m lucky I got out when I did. 

Hope you don't get locked up in a cage in the Hong Kong airport.

[HornsOverIthaca 2335]

25 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Hope you don't get locked up in a cage in the Hong Kong airport.

All those cargo flights full of rubber dogshit are going to be sitting on the tarmac forever!

[Doc Reeves 6434]

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

NowThis ?

Silly, he doesn’t use lube

[Neonmoon 38130]

3 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Silly, he doesn’t use lube

That’s be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole 

[DoobieWah 1467]

https://www.adameve.com/adult-sex-toys/fleshlight/MilanaVayntrub.aspx

 

Shit's about to get real.

Surly should sell trucker masks with a Surly logo.

 

FTA:

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The Trump administration, while insisting the risk to Americans from coronavirus is low, nevertheless declared a public health emergency on Friday and announced the extraordinary step of barring entry to the United States of foreign nationals who have recently visited China.

In addition, U.S. citizens who have traveled within the past two weeks to China's Hubei Province - epicenter of the coronavirus epidemic - will be subject to a mandatory quarantine of 14 days, the incubation period of the virus, officials said.

 

[atomheartbevo 89828]

Chinese only allowed to post “news” from state-run media, otherwise jail time.  

https://nypost.com/2020/01/30/chinese-residents-face-jail-if-they-slam-countrys-coronavirus-response/
 

[atomheartbevo 89828]

9 minutes ago, DoobieWah said:

Shit's about to get real.

I keep forgetting that we elected a germaphobe.  I guess it’s one good thing.

[Thetexashammer 1062]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

That’s be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole 

One out of three posts in this place makes me think "besthugecock.com". Damn you NowThis.

[atomheartbevo 89828]

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Novacyt stock soared 32% on Friday morning after the French cellular diagnostics company announced the launch of a new test for the coronavirus.
The new test is able to detect only the 2019 strain of the virus, reducing the risk of a false diagnosis, the company said in a statement.

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The test, generated by the company’s Primerdesign molecular diagnostics team, can also generate a result in less than two hours, enabling samples to be screened quickly, which the company says could help prevent the “unnecessary” spread of the virus.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/31/novacyt-shares-jump-32percent-on-launch-of-coronavirus-test.html

Speaking of tests, the rate of infections is fairly consistent, although the death rate appears to be slowing down.   Really thinking they aren’t able to produce or analyze more than a few thousand tests a day.  Like maybe 2,500 tests a day.  

[RayDog 682]

I had dinner last night next to a table with a dozen Chinese tourists. I almost left but a friend was already there.

Normally about 5% of the people on the street  here wear masks but now it is more like 30%.

[Neonmoon 38130]

11,950 confirmed 

259 dead

 

[atomheartbevo 89828]

Couple of reddit comments I’ve been wondering about.  

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I'm confused, didn't this virus first spread to humans in December, how is this only considered day 21? We should be at least on day 30 by now.

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Yeah, I feel as if people making the graphs aren't using accurate information. If they use the Dec 8th date then nCoV would be much less severe than both SARs and Swine Flu as of now.

 

[Deej 76946]

33 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

11,950 confirmed 

259 dead

 

N-E-O-N-M-O-O-N spells Neonmoon.

[Doc Reeves 6434]

Chinese couple in Italy who tested positive for the Coronavirus went on a tour of the country and visited Verona, Parma and Rome before they were quarantined

 

 

I always fuckin knew Chinese tourists would destroy the world...

[atomheartbevo 89828]

. New England Journal of Medicine talking about the first US case (albeit he flew from Wuhan).  They probably have a twitter account with a blue check, right?  They sound important, right?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

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On January 19, 2020, a 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. On checking into the clinic, the patient put on a mask in the waiting room. After waiting approximately 20 minutes, he was taken into an examination room and underwent evaluation by a provider. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China. The patient stated that he had seen a health alert from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) about the novel coronavirus outbreak in China and, because of his symptoms and recent travel, decided to see a health care provider.

....including the patient’s initial mild symptoms at presentation with progression to pneumonia on day 9 of illness

TLDR: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/31/health/washington-coronavirus-study-nejm/index.html

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In the new report, doctors describe how the man progressed from initially mild, nonspecific symptoms to pneumonia on the ninth day of his illness.

The patient -- a 35-year-old resident of Snohomish County, Washington, with no history of major health problems -- had returned from visiting family in Wuhan on January 15. He had not visited the seafood market where a number of early patients were initially linked, nor did he have any known contacts with sick people during his visit. 

Still, the man had seen a health alert by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and decided to visit an urgent care clinic on January 19, at which point he had been coughing for four days.

[atomheartbevo 89828]

15 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Chinese couple in Italy who tested positive for the Coronavirus went on a tour of the country and visited Verona, Parma and Rome before they were quarantined

I always fuckin knew Chinese tourists would destroy the world...

They have a bad reputation online.  

NSFW

Spoiler

 

[ChickenSandwich 9853]

Welp...friend who works for WHO in France...

yesterday...”nothing out of the ordinary”

today...”Yeah, it is a bad situation... spreading very rapidly”

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13120]

8 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

I always fuckin knew Chinese spies would destroy the world...

Let’s just call them what the really are.

[Macanudo 13017]

10 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

11,950 confirmed 

259 dead

 

That we know of.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8822]

Wife came home today with a cabinet worth of cleaning stuff, wet wipes, and masks. She is prepared for our big trip to...
 
sarasota. If she lets us go, and if the Denver and Tampa airports haven’t been locked down over the next week. 

Wrong thread, lulz

[MNLonghornFUKM 8822]

. New England Journal of Medicine talking about the first US case (albeit he flew from Wuhan).  They probably have a twitter account with a blue check, right?  They sound important, right?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

On January 19, 2020, a 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. On checking into the clinic, the patient put on a mask in the waiting room. After waiting approximately 20 minutes, he was taken into an examination room and underwent evaluation by a provider. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China. The patient stated that he had seen a health alert from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) about the novel coronavirus outbreak in China and, because of his symptoms and recent travel, decided to see a health care provider.
....including the patient’s initial mild symptoms at presentation with progression to pneumonia on day 9 of illness

TLDR: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/31/health/washington-coronavirus-study-nejm/index.html

In the new report, doctors describe how the man progressed from initially mild, nonspecific symptoms to pneumonia on the ninth day of his illness.
The patient -- a 35-year-old resident of Snohomish County, Washington, with no history of major health problems -- had returned from visiting family in Wuhan on January 15. He had not visited the seafood market where a number of early patients were initially linked, nor did he have any known contacts with sick people during his visit. 
Still, the man had seen a health alert by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and decided to visit an urgent care clinic on January 19, at which point he had been coughing for four days.

Maybe he had the fish instead of the steak?

[BottleRocket 647]

11 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

11,950 confirmed 

259 dead

 

That wedding sounds like it sucked.

[Somnio 751]

Daily fear porn quote:

The death rate, while it matters for those directly involved, is irrelevant for my model and the world.

My model is simply an attempt to see HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE LEFT to prepare. The authorities will not be able to cope with this pandemic, and when they will start to do it, it will be Wuhan in every city : full lock-down of the cities and mandatory quarantine in-house.

Death rate will be much lower in developed countries...but not for long. We will run out of hospital beds, and that alone is a death sentence for many that suffer from diabetes, hearth affections, cancer. etc.

Another reason why I do not care what the virus does and how many people it kills, is because the deaths from a collapsed health system will be vastly higher.
 

[Somnio 751]

I wont post a link because its from a "fake news" site which is a guilty pleasure of mine, but this guy "sounds" like he knows what he's talking about.

If correct, the world is going to change, and much quicker than anyone could ever expect.

The next few days should be telling.

[Anastasis 23491]

I got a freezer full of venison, a keg, a bunch of booze, a generator, and guns.  Let's do this. 

[Bevo 13601]

3 minutes ago, Somnio said:

I wont post a link because its from a "fake news" site which is a guilty pleasure of mine, but this guy "sounds" like he knows what he's talking about.

If correct, the world is going to change, and much quicker than anyone could ever expect.

The next few days should be telling.

Well, the first quote was bullshit. Assuming the virulence is similar to the flu, if we didn't care about the mortality and morbidity of the coronavirus, it would have no more impact on our lives than the flu. It wouldn't close hospitals. It wouldn't cause city lockdowns. And it wouldn't cause economic collapse. The main reason we care about the disease is the harm it causes people.

[Telegraph_it 3359]

I always knew having 200 acres of land out in west Texas with pecan trees, a fresh spring, and a cannon would one day save my ass. 
 

Sorry, none of y’all are invited. 

[BrickHorn 18290]

2 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Well, the first quote was bullshit. Assuming the virulence is similar to the flu, if we didn't care about the mortality and morbidity of the coronavirus, it would have no more impact on our lives than the flu. It wouldn't close hospitals. It wouldn't cause city lockdowns. And it wouldn't cause economic collapse. The main reason we care about the disease is the harm it causes people.

Bear in mind the fatality rate is being kept down right now by access to medical treatment.  If this were to go pandemic, I’d expect the fatality rate to increase due to lack of capacity in hospitals. And then you run into all the secondary causes of death as mentioned in the post above.  

 

[Somnio 751]

9 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Well, the first quote was bullshit. Assuming the virulence is similar to the flu, if we didn't care about the mortality and morbidity of the coronavirus, it would have no more impact on our lives than the flu. It wouldn't close hospitals. It wouldn't cause city lockdowns. And it wouldn't cause economic collapse. The main reason we care about the disease is the harm it causes people.

I think the gist is that many are downplaying its significance because the death rate isnt absurdly high.

But it appears more contagious, and much more serious than the flu.  And the huge numbers of hospitalizations, even if they recover are going to overwhelm our health care system.

Edited February 1, 2020 by Somnio

[HornsOverIthaca 2335]

7 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

I always knew having 200 acres of land out in west Texas with pecan trees, a fresh spring, and a cannon would one day save my ass. 
 

Sorry, none of y’all are invited. 

Good thing I’ve been slowly taking cannon blasts of increasing size over the past decade.  I am immune to cannons, howitzers, and mortars now.  Still allergic to pecans tho.

[DoobieWah 1467]

If you think it's bad now, wait until those bastards start rising from the dead. 

if you think Illinois Nazis are bad, they got nothing on Chinese zombies!

[Telegraph_it 3359]

6 minutes ago, HornsOverIthaca said:

Good thing I’ve been slowly taking cannon blasts of increasing size over the past decade.  I am immune to cannons, howitzers, and mortars now.  Still allergic to pecans tho.

That’s a good idea. Pecan shot. 

[BrickHorn 18290]

15 minutes ago, Somnio said:

I think the gist is that many are downplaying its significance because the death rate isnt absurdly high.

But it appears more contagious, and much more lethal than the flu.  And the huge numbers of hospitalizations, even if they recover are going to overwhelm our health care system.

Right.  Imagine a really bad annual flu outbreak (eg 2018) but potentially far more widespread.  Kinda sobering.

Edit:  Oops.  Used the wrong stats.  

Edited February 1, 2020 by BrickHorn

[Neonmoon 38130]

Should we take bets on where the first death will be outside China? 

[Bevo 13601]

3 minutes ago, Somnio said:

I think the gist is that many are downplaying its significance because the death rate isnt absurdly high.

But it appears more contagious, and much more serious than the flu.  And the huge numbers of hospitalizations, even if they recover are going to overwhelm our health care system.

Then, he should have said as much. That piece you quoted was non-scientific fear mongering. He first stated that he wanted to talk about the rate of transmission and then didn't talk about virulence or any other factors that talk about rates. Then he stated that he didn't care about the disease itself but on how it would collapse the healthcare system. And then he concluded with, "Another reason why I do not care what the virus does and how many people it kills, is because the deaths from a collapsed health system will be vastly higher". Well, that isn't another reason, that was quite frankly the only argument that he made. I don't care if the article was written by Stanley Falkow: It sucked.

 

Try the nature article I linked.