Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[woohorn 1131]

Shitty Walmart on Anderson has plenty of hand sanitizer and cleaning supplies. Probably because even an end-of-the-world plague doesnt justify a trip to that Walmart. 

Costco was nuts today with a run on supplies. Walmart was chill. I think it has something to do with return policies and cash flow, although you are correct about the general customer experience.

[woohorn 1131]

Hitler's good

Reported

[achooloco 1067]

38 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

You could have actual cases in Austin and Adler and Co. will try to keep SxSW going.  You’d have to have actual cases downtown and/or in a venue or two before they shut it down.   

that seems like an unwise position for them to take.

[bernorange 8361]

Went by my local Costco today and they had plenty of stock of disinfectants/cleaners.  Lysol and Chlorox products were on sale (discounts) too.

Edited February 27, 2020 by bernorange

[atomheartbevo 89656]

11 minutes ago, achooloco said:

that seems like an unwise position for them to take.

Yeah...maybe?  Would depend on the number and where the person(s) were traced to (who they contacted in Austin, etc.).  A few cases in North Austin or South Austin(‘s mom),, they won’t shut the place down.  A few cases downtown, it gets dicey.   Hell, at that point, people may just avoid it altogether anyways.  

I don’t expect anything too major in the next few weeks anyways.   I don’t think we have it contained (as proven by the new case), I think we’ve just been lucky.  

Edited February 27, 2020 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 89656]

Here’s a conspiracy theory:  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

It’s supposed to be updated Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 4pm.  Yesterday, they said in the briefing they had just tested 400 samples the night before.   But it’s not on the website.  Unless they are testing the same 400+ people again.   

[UDontKnow 10444]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/26/f889693a-580e-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html

Update in this article about 3/4 of the way down reports France's 1st death from coronavirus. Also, South Korea is Wuhan lite.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Well, this is getting way out of control.

[Tailgate 3021]

Everyone, calm down...it will be ok.

[UDontKnow 10444]

12 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Well, this is getting way out of control.

 

Physicians everywhere rejoice! Diet soda..diabetes in a can!

[Helobious 9448]

21 minutes ago, Tailgate said:

Everyone, calm down...it will be ok.

If it’s any consolation... official numbers say less than 80,000 people were infected in Wuhan, the city at the epicenter of all this. Realistic estimates put that number well over 100,000. I say fuck that, let’s take the estimated number and x10 it. Let’s say there’s over 1,000,000 people infected in Wuhan. 
 

That still means “only” about 9% of the city of Wuhan got infected with this thing. Scary for sure, but perspective can’t be lost. Obviously the number of cases will still grow, but 9% in the city where this was most out of control isn’t too bad.

Edited February 27, 2020 by Helobious

[elfenix 34236]

16 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

No specific mention of HiPoints, Mosins, or Henry survival rifles and one fucking Tomahawk.

GTFO

 

By U.S. Navyderivative work: The High Fin Sperm Whale - Tomahawk_Block_IV_cruise_missile.jpg, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10306425

[Bama Chick 28596]

So the new California case was in two hospitals and was there for a week or more before they were tested for the virus.

Got to wonder how many other cases like this are happening right now.

Statement from the hospital.

[RayDog 682]

55 minutes ago, Helobious said:

If it’s any consolation... official numbers say less than 80,000 people were infected in Wuhan, the city at the epicenter of all this. Realistic estimates put that number well over 100,000. I say fuck that, let’s take the estimated number and x10 it. Let’s say there’s over 1,000,000 people infected in Wuhan. 
 

That still means “only” about 9% of the city of Wuhan got infected with this thing. Scary for sure, but perspective can’t be lost. Obviously the number of cases will still grow, but 9% in the city where this was most out of control isn’t too bad.

Except that 5 million people left Wuhan before the quarantine started, and probably half of those who stayed were infected based on the number of cremations being performed. 

When I was out having lunch 2 hours ago I saw very few Korean tourists,  so the number coming in this weekend appear down. I will be able to judge it better when I walk around tonight. With any luck they are deciding to stay home on their own. Duterte has not been willing to suspend  travel from Korea yet.

I saw an ex gf yesterday  and she was saying how much she misses boom-boom. I asked her that I thought she was being barfined. She said yes, but only Koreans and they are too small.

[Loco 3752]

2 hours ago, Helobious said:

Obviously the number of cases will still grow, but 9% in the city where this was most out of control isn’t too bad.

[InkaUtexas 25915]

16 minutes ago, Loco said:

Leave him alone. His team is collapsing and no one has the virus. Yet. 

[InkaUtexas 25915]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

So the new California case was in two hospitals and was there for a week or more before they were tested for the virus.

Got to wonder how many other cases like this are happening right now.

 

 

Statement from the hospital.

 

Girl, there are rules in this thread. No Politics. This is for stupid crap and updates. 

[Goredho 17399]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

So the new California case was in two hospitals and was there for a week or more before they were tested for the virus.

Got to wonder how many other cases like this are happening right now.

 

 

Statement from the hospital.

 

This is the single most significant post in this thread to this point.  I validated the info here https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/coronavirus-patient-and-precautions-uc-davis-medical-center.

Everyone treating the patient at the first hospital was exposed.  And it is unknown who the patient caught it from locally.  Watch for new cases popping up in Northern California.

Also consider that this information surfaces on the day our President had a press conference to address public concerns about the virus and the day after the CDC warns us to be prepared for a disruption to daily life.

Shit’s about to get real real quick.

 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

1 hour ago, Goredho said:

Everyone treating the patient at the first hospital was exposed.  And it is unknown who the patient caught it from locally.  Watch for new cases popping up in Northern California.

As I’ve stated previously, I highly doubt this is an isolated case. People all over the country are likely receiving the same treatment. 

[SydneyCarton 48082]

The horse has been out of the barn and eating the crops and shitting everywhere for weeks now. 
 

I hope the extremely limited reports that it seems to be non fatal to children are accurate, as my two year old’s health is a blinking non stop fucking danger sign in my head right now. What a terrible, powerless feeling as a society. 

[RayDog 682]

2 hours ago, Goredho said:

This is the single most significant post in this thread to this point.  I validated the info here https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/coronavirus-patient-and-precautions-uc-davis-medical-center.

Everyone treating the patient at the first hospital was exposed.  And it is unknown who the patient caught it from locally.  Watch for new cases popping up in Northern California.

Also consider that this information surfaces on the day our President had a press conference to address public concerns about the virus and the day after the CDC warns us to be prepared for a disruption to daily life.

Shit’s about to get real real quick.

 

As I posted in politics. If there was a local cluster of 20, in the time she has been intubated it is now 160. If 100 it is now 800. 

Assuming 6 or more clusters in the US there will be between 100,000 and 1,000,000 infected in 3 weeks. A month or so later, everybody.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4976]

23 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

The horse has been out of the barn and eating the crops and shitting everywhere for weeks now. 
 

I hope the extremely limited reports that it seems to be non fatal to children are accurate, as my two year old’s health is a blinking non stop fucking danger sign in my head right now. What a terrible, powerless feeling as a society. 

Yeah, we have a 3.5 year old and a 5 month old. I'm just hoping it stays back long enough to get another month or two in there for the little one.

[SydneyCarton 48082]

4 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Yeah, we have a 3.5 year old and a 5 month old. I'm just hoping it stays back long enough to get another month or two in there for the little one.

Yeah, we’re basically in a race to summer. Bring on a scorcher. 

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

4 hours ago, Loco said:

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THIS VIRUS! GET BACK TO YOUR FLU TESTS!

[CleverNickname 1308]

Japan to close all schools until April. 

[DaysOff 7947]

As I posted in politics. If there was a local cluster of 20, in the time she has been intubated it is now 160. If 100 it is now 800. 

Assuming 6 or more clusters in the US there will be between 100,000 and 1,000,000 infected in 3 weeks. A month or so later, everybody.

I'm the last guy to discount your math bonafides, but that seems extreme. Doesn't this virus spread like any other? If people would learn to not spit when they talk, cover themselves whilst sneezing, and wash their hands before shoving french fries down their gullet or fingers up their nose this thing would have a tougher time jumping from host to host. Yes?

 

I think living amongst Asians stacked in chicken coops is clouding your perspective. My closest neighbor is more than a football field away, and I generally avoid people anyway.

 

I'm sure I've jinxed myself so save some wreath fund.

 

[SydneyCarton 48082]

14 minutes ago, CleverNickname said:

Japan to close all schools until April. 

Smart, smart move. We won’t be nearly as intelligent. Too many people in denial. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Smart, smart move. We won’t be nearly as intelligent. Too many people in denial. 

School is also a free babysitter that allows most parents to work. Close school and parents are screwed, so the govt has to take that  into account.

our govt won’t and realistically can’t just have one goal of keeping people healthy. They have to keep business and society moving. Especially when many Americans have less than $400 in emergency savings.

 

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

The horse has been out of the barn and eating the crops and shitting everywhere for weeks now. 
 
I hope the extremely limited reports that it seems to be non fatal to children are accurate, as my two year old’s health is a blinking non stop fucking danger sign in my head right now. What a terrible, powerless feeling as a society. 

A coworker this week came back from traveling in Asia. When she came back, a group of us requested that our company ask her to wfh (we're an ecommerce company) for at least a week to make sure she had no symptoms. Company just flat said no.

Our company has offices on two floors, so I've simply relocated to the floor where she doesn't work for a week, maybe two. Everyone else who requested she not come in just accepted her coming back and stayed at their desks right next to her.

I've got a 2 and a 4 year old at home. No way in hell I'm risking anything I don't have to.

[SydneyCarton 48082]

4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

School is also a free babysitter that allows most parents to work. Close school and parents are screwed, so the govt has to take that  into account.

our govt won’t and realistically can’t just have one goal of keeping people healthy. They have to keep business and society moving. Especially when many Americans have less than $400 in emergency savings.

 

Yeah man, I get it. No one said leading in these scenarios is easy. But I’m pretty sure Japan also has people with low savings as well as households where both parents work. 

[BrazilHorn 6591]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

School is also a free babysitter that allows most parents to work. Close school and parents are screwed, so the govt has to take that  into account.

our govt won’t and realistically can’t just have one goal of keeping people healthy. They have to keep business and society moving. Especially when many Americans have less than $400 in emergency savings.

 

Aside from the $400, your typical grocery store carries three days inventory, add maybe another week’s worth at DCs and maybe a smattering upstream in transit from packers etc and shit gets real, really quick if food supply chain gets dorked up. 
 

[achooloco 1067]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah...maybe?  Would depend on the number and where the person(s) were traced to (who they contacted in Austin, etc.).  A few cases in North Austin or South Austin(‘s mom),, they won’t shut the place down.  A few cases downtown, it gets dicey.   Hell, at that point, people may just avoid it altogether anyways.  

I don’t expect anything too major in the next few weeks anyways.   I don’t think we have it contained (as proven by the new case), I think we’ve just been lucky.  

I’ll bet money that the number of cases between now and the 13 in Austin and Texas will make postponement the right choice. Either way, good luck to all. If the NorCal hospital is any indication, our fuck ups are gonna make this way worse than it should be 

[SydneyCarton 48082]

1 minute ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

A coworker this week came back from traveling in Asia. When she came back, a group of us requested that our company ask her to wfh (we're an ecommerce company) for at least a week to make sure she had no symptoms. Company just flat said no.

Our company has offices on two floors, so I've simply relocated to the floor where she doesn't work for a week, maybe two. Everyone else who requested she not come in just accepted her coming back and stayed at their desks right next to her.

I've got a 2 and a 4 year old at home. No way in hell I'm risking anything I don't have to.

Yeah. I have the ability to wfh as well. But my wife doesn’t and she works at a school. Hence my earlier comments praying that the low risk of child mortality are accurate, because at this point everything feels like fait accompli. 

[HenryJames 66048]

3 minutes ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

A coworker this week came back from traveling in Asia. When she came back, a group of us requested that our company ask her to wfh (we're an ecommerce company) for at least a week to make sure she had no symptoms.

[HiggyBaby 2529]

Wuhan got Allah in check


https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-prompts-saudi-arabia-to-limit-travel-to-holy-sites-months-ahead-of-hajj-pilgrimage

[BLKNSTY 289]

On 1/23/2020 at 7:32 PM, BLKNSTY said:

Any stock plays people seeing?

Alpha Pro Tech (APT)
Lakeland Industries (LAKE)
BioCryst (BCRX)

Are all up. APT and LAKE are protective equipment (masks, gowns). BCRX has glaidesvir that is apparently effective against coronaviruses.

got to make some money off these boomers.

From the date of this post, APT has gone from $5/share to flirting with $20 LAKE is a little more subdued with a $10 to $19 jump. 

My five $5 3/20 calls are up something 3000+% this week, still down overall this week though. Buying the dip on Monday didn’t help either.

[Aqua Buddha 14595]

What does the rate of growth in Wuhan and other parts of China look like?  At this point, it's been over two months.  Is it still growing exponentially or has it flattened out?

Thanks.  I'll hang up and listen.

[TexasGolf 4899]

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

What does the rate of growth in Wuhan and other parts of China look like?  At this point, it's been over two months.  Is it still growing exponentially or has it flattened out?

Thanks.  I'll hang up and listen.

Sadly the numbers can’t be trusted. Also can’t count people welded shut in their homes. 

[Aqua Buddha 14595]

Just now, TexasGolf said:

Sadly the numbers can’t be trusted. Also can’t count people welded shut in their homes. 

I wondered about the forced shut ins as well.  Have they died yet or is this like the regular flu where you get it and it passes?

[2300 Nueces 163]

Scratch the article I posted earlier.  This virus is different than the one studied in the paper I posted, at least partially.

 

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-far-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say

 

This current version is highly infectious.  If you have any HIV-1 inhibitor drugs handy, you are sitting on a gold mine.  I have done some additional research and there are no naturally occurring compounds that can work as an inhibitor against HIV/Ebola.  Now it's up to your immune system.

 

How does a virus take the worst parts of Sars/Corona virus and marry it with the infectiousness of HIV/Ebola?  Something isn't right here.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

15 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I wondered about the forced shut ins as well.  Have they died yet or is this like the regular flu where you get it and it passes?

It’s almost like you didn’t put much thought into your question or ignored the post you responded to.

[Spur08 382]

30 minutes ago, BLKNSTY said:

From the date of this post, APT has gone from $5/share to flirting with $20 LAKE is a little more subdued with a $10 to $19 jump. 

My five $5 3/20 calls are up something 3000+% this week, still down overall this week though. Buying the dip on Monday didn’t help either.

Look at CODX

[GreenspointTexas 9600]

I still cant believe how poorly this has been handled by china/the US/other countries

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

My employer has announced that we're following CDC travel guidelines in terms of employees leaving the country and returning. Someone travels to China or SK (I'm sure expanding soon) and back, then they have to sit home for at least 2 weeks.  And pay isn't guaranteed if the role can't wfh.

[2300 Nueces 163]

Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

I still cant believe how poorly this has been handled by china/the US/other countries

They worry about economic collapse and we all know how governments love depressions.  Shutting everything down brings starvation etc.....  Oh well

[Thetexashammer 1062]

1 hour ago, DaysOff said:

I'm the last guy to discount your math bonafides, but that seems extreme. Doesn't this virus spread like any other? If people would learn to not spit when they talk, cover themselves whilst sneezing, and wash their hands before shoving french fries down their gullet or fingers up their nose this thing would have a tougher time jumping from host to host. Yes?

 

I think living amongst Asians stacked in chicken coops is clouding your perspective. My closest neighbor is more than a football field away, and I generally avoid people anyway.

 

I'm sure I've jinxed myself so save some wreath fund.

 

Consider the infected flight attendant. There is no one more likely to catch it, or to be more effective at spreading it.

Is anyone IRL telling family to stock up? I have fam who will likely die, even if they just run out of meds.

[The People’s Elbow 707]

3 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

I still cant believe how poorly this has been handled by china/the US/other countries

Then you haven’t been paying attention. The handling is 100% on brand. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

 

1 minute ago, 2300 Nueces said:

They worry about economic collapse and we all know how governments love depressions.  Shutting everything down brings starvation etc.....  Oh well

yep. people need to work to pay mortgages and rent. people need food in the stores and it doesn't get there on its own.

I know it sounds harsh but at some level perhaps its better for the world to let this burn through the population. Any of us could be part of the unlucky. And I mean this sentiment in context that if this hangs around long enough, any precautions may not ultimately matter.  The current precautions seem more about buying time to find treatment or vaccine options.

[2300 Nueces 163]

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 

yep. people need to work to pay mortgages and rent. people need food in the stores and it doesn't get there on its own.

I know it sounds harsh but at some level perhaps its better for the world to let this burn through the population. Any of us could be part of the unlucky. And I mean this sentiment in context that if this hangs around long enough, any precautions may not ultimately matter.  The current precautions seem more about buying time to find treatment or vaccine options.

We are at the point of no return.  Time to get healthy/boost immune system and come to terms with your form of afterlife.

Edited February 27, 2020 by 2300 Nueces

[Telegraph_it 3357]

4 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Consider the infected flight attendant. There is no one more likely to catch it, or to be more effective at spreading it.

Is anyone IRL telling family to stock up? I have fam who will likely die, even if they just run out of meds.

My family with the acreage out west let me know last night they are fully stocked with food, meds, and more ammo and asked when we are arriving with their grandson. I said once a known surly poster (excluding Raydog) is infected we are there.