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Given that the health of non-wealthy urban Chinese, particularly respiratory health, is probably abominable, I think I might treat those analyses with some skepticism.

That whole country looks like LA did on a bad day 30 years ago.  And they've probably got shit in their atmosphere that we never dreamed of (at least until Trump).

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Against my better judgment and several beers deep, I have taken you up on this, potentially ending my streak of totally worthless posts. I have done 3 and 7 day averages only on the Worldometer data. 

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Wife stocked up on Ramen, campbell's coup, cereal...etc a month ago. Haven't had Ramen since college, but I've been shame-eating that shit in secret the past few weeks and have gained weight and blood pressure has gotten higher. This shit will kill me faster than the virus. My sodium intake has probably doubled. This virus is no joke #pray4me. Gofundme to follow soon. 

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Wife stocked up on Ramen, campbell's coup, cereal...etc a month ago. Haven't had Ramen since college, but I've been shame-eating that shit in secret the past few weeks and have gained weight and blood pressure has gotten higher. This shit will kill me faster than the virus. My sodium intake has probably doubled. This virus is no joke #pray4me. Gofundme to follow soon. 

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4 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Saw this email on another message board:

 

 

Hi folks,

A number of you have asked me what I think is going to happen with coronavirus (COVID-19) and what we should be doing to prepare. I have a few thoughts about what's likely to happen and what you should do about it. For those of you who don't know me well, I am a preventive medicine physician and infectious disease epidemiologist. I graduated from the CDC's Epidemic Intelligence Service and have over 17 years of experience in the field, most of that with CDC.
Wishing everyone good health,
Juliana

Who should I listen to?
The CDC and your state health department are your best place for information about COVID-19. Be cautious about other sources of information - many of them will not be reliable or accurate.

How bad is this going to be?
It's possible that COVID-19 will be similar to a bad flu year but there are a number of indications that it will be very much like the 1918 Flu Pandemic. To put that in perspective, the 1918 flu did not end civilization as we know it but it was the second-deadliest event of the last 200 years. Expect people you know to die from this.
However, there is one critical difference between COVID-19 and the 1918 flu - the 1918 flu virus hit children and young adults particularly hard. COVID-19 seems to be most severe in older adults. Children and young adults generally have mild infections. We are grateful for this.

What can we expect?
This is not the zombie apocalypse. Core infrastructure (e.g., power, water, supermarkets, internet, government, etc.) will continue to work, perhaps with some minor disruptions.

There will be significant economic disruption: a global recession is very possible and there will probably be significant shortages of some products. The healthcare system will be hit the hardest. The number of people who are likely to get sick is higher than our healthcare systems can handle.

Daily life will be impacted in important ways. Travel is likely to be limited and public gatherings will probably be canceled. Schools will probably be closed. Expect health departments to start issuing these orders in the near future, especially on the West Coast.
The acute pandemic will probably last at least for several months and quite possibly for a year or two.

What can we do?
We can't keep COVID-19 from being a global pandemic but the more we can do to slow the spread of the disease, the less severe the impact will be. With that in mind, here are the things you can do:

Stay calm but take it seriously. This will likely be bad but it's not the apocalypse.
Stay home if you're sick or someone in your house is sick.
Leave medical supplies for healthcare workers. You shouldn't be stockpiling masks or other medical supplies. They are needed in hospitals to keep our healthcare workers healthy.
Wash your hands. Get in the habit of frequently washing your hands thoroughly and covering your cough.
Minimize your exposure. Now that we're seeing community transmission, it's time to start seriously cutting back on your exposure to other people. Depending on your circumstances:
Cancel all non-essential travel (and most of it is non-essential!)
Avoid large-scale gatherings
Work from home if possible
Minimize direct contact with others including hand shakes and hugs
Reduce your trips out of the house. If possible, shop for two weeks of groceries at once or consider having your groceries delivered.
Remember, keep calm and prepare. This is likely to be bad but if we respond calmly and thoughtfully we can handle it.

Feel free to share this email as you see fit.
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Juliana Grant, MD MPH
Public health and epidemiology consultant

People still aren't taking this seriously. Heard sports talk radio roundly scoffing at the notion of acting like "Europeans" and playing the sports seasons/playoffs/March madness without fans until it becomes more clear what we're dealing with. 

The "expect people you know to die from this" is a chilling statement. 

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But it’s just like the flu.  Or a cold.  Oh but it only affects the elderly.  Or those with cancer, immune system problems, diabetes, heart disease, smokers, or those named Edna or Fred who live in Chickenfucker, Texas.  And the heat will help keep it at bay, it’ll never take hold in Africa or South America at this time of year.   And a mask will protect you - don’t worry about your eyes and hands and clothes.  And we don’t need to test, we know it’s here, just make sure and wash your hands and drink your Ovaltine.  

Bro, by April we're in the clear!  Chillax and have a Corona with lime!  The citrus tastes great, and boosts your immune system!

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Reassuring news.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-05/chinese-scientists-say-second-coronavirus-strain-more-dangerous

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The global outbreak that has sickened nearly 100,000 people across six continents may actually be fueled by two variants of the same coronavirus: one older and less aggressive and a newer version whose mutations may have made it more contagious and more deadly, according to a controversial new study.

 

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Chinese scientists who compared the genetic sequences of 103 viral samples from patients infected with COVID-19 said their evidence suggests that the virulent version of the coronavirus — which they tagged the “L-type” version — was the dominant strain in the earliest phase of the outbreak that began in Wuhan late last year. That strain, they said, appeared to recede as the epidemic progressed.

 

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But among samples collected later, as COVID-19 spread across China and into other countries, a variant of the virus they dubbed the “S-type” was more common, the scientists reported. They suggested that the genetic makeup of the S version more closely resembles coronaviruses circulating in bats and pangolins, the animals that are thought to have incubated the virus before it jumped to humans. And they surmised that it is a less virulent version.

 

 

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Of known cases:

 

over 100,000 infected as of last night

 

over 3,400 dead

 

that a 3.4% mortality rate... OF KNOWN cases. Now i expect that number to drop slightly, but not sure its gonna 1-2% like everyone else is predicting. We still have a shit ton of 3rd world countries for it to hit, and once healthcare systems in developed countries get overwhelmed, that number will not drop as much as we hope

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Wife stocked up on Ramen, campbell's coup, cereal...etc a month ago. Haven't had Ramen since college, but I've been shame-eating that shit in secret the past few weeks and have gained weight and blood pressure has gotten higher. This shit will kill me faster than the virus. My sodium intake has probably doubled. This virus is no joke #pray4me. Gofundme to follow soon. 

I bought a case of chicken ramen a week or 2 ago. I’ll be the same when we break into our stash
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7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

With the exception of one news outlet, it’s good to see all of the other MSM outlets in the US are covering this.    Anyways, tomorrow is the day we find out if Austin has it’s first officially confirmed case.   Or is that Tuesday.  

It’s the day after SXSW. City trying to milk last hotel tax tourist dollar. 

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10 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

Dumb question:  I’m having a little argument with my father.  What constitutes an underlying health issue?  He smoked 2 packs a day for 40 years and had quintuple bypass surgery 7 years ago.   He also has diabetes which requires daily insulin injections.  If he croaked in this deal, would he be listed as having underlying health issues?

You think?

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Chicago State (???) cancels mens and womens basketball games, won't let their teams travel due to coronavirus

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28833590/chicago-state-men-basketball-team-not-traveling-due-virus-women-home-games-canceled

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CHICAGO -- The Chicago State men's basketball team will not travel for two regularly scheduled WAC games this week, and its women's team will not host two games, the school said late Tuesday, citing the spread of the coronavirus.

The school said in a statement it was making the move with the "health and well-being of the campus community in mind."

The cancellations are believed to be the first by a major sport in the United States due to the virus.

The university said the men's team would not travel to Seattle or Utah Valley for WAC games on Thursday and Saturday. The school also said the women's team would not host Seattle or Utah Valley at the campus' Jones Convocation Center on the same days.

"Chicago State athletics views our decision as a reaffirmation of our commitment to the well-being, health and safety of our student athletes," Chicago State athletic director Elliott Charles said in the statement.

Took me a minute - but I found Chicago State in the WAC, where the men's team is currently 0-14 in conference and 4-25 overall, makes me wonder who they beat but not enough to look.
The women's team is 1-13 in the WAC standings, 1-26 overall.

So these forfeits actually save the school travel money, as they would have lost the games anyway

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The first case here in Colorado was a man in his 30s who came from California.  He had been skiing in Italy and then came to Colorado, where he stayed at Keystone resort and was also skiing.  He was sick enough to need to go to the hospital where they tested him and sure enough, he had won the coronavirus lottery in Italy.

So young, affluent and active.  Definitely not who we think of as most at risk for serious illness.  I am sure the altitude had an effect on the severity of his symptoms.  They have moved him to Denver to be at a lower elevation while recovering/quarantined.  Maybe something else puts him at a higher risk, like being a massive weed smoker...

Oh, shit, I’m fucked.

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Chicago State (???) cancels mens and womens basketball games, won't let their teams travel due to coronavirus
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28833590/chicago-state-men-basketball-team-not-traveling-due-virus-women-home-games-canceled

CHICAGO -- The Chicago State men's basketball team will not travel for two regularly scheduled WAC games this week, and its women's team will not host two games, the school said late Tuesday, citing the spread of the coronavirus.

The school said in a statement it was making the move with the "health and well-being of the campus community in mind."

The cancellations are believed to be the first by a major sport in the United States due to the virus.

The university said the men's team would not travel to Seattle or Utah Valley for WAC games on Thursday and Saturday. The school also said the women's team would not host Seattle or Utah Valley at the campus' Jones Convocation Center on the same days.

"Chicago State athletics views our decision as a reaffirmation of our commitment to the well-being, health and safety of our student athletes," Chicago State athletic director Elliott Charles said in the statement.

Took me a minute - but I found Chicago State in the WAC, where the men's team is currently 0-14 in conference and 4-25 overall, makes me wonder who they beat but not enough to look.
The women's team is 1-13 in the WAC standings, 1-26 overall.
So these forfeits actually save the school travel money, as they would have lost the games anyway


3 of the men’s team wins are non-DI. Pulling their schedule is amusing as they get massacred by the bottom third of the NCAA. I’m sure they were good with any reason to cancel.
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The first case here in Colorado was a man in his 30s who came from California.  He had been skiing in Italy and then came to Colorado, where he stayed at Keystone resort and was also skiing.  He was sick enough to need to go to the hospital where they tested him and sure enough, he had won the coronavirus lottery in Italy.

So young, affluent and active.  Definitely not who we think of as most at risk for serious illness.  I am sure the altitude had an effect on the severity of his symptoms.  They have moved him to Denver to be at a lower elevation while recovering/quarantined.  Maybe something else puts him at a higher risk, like being a massive weed smoker...

Oh, shit, I’m fucked.

Great.  I was in Denver on Wednesday.

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2 minutes ago, Goredho said:

The first case here in Colorado was a man in his 30s who came from California.  He had been skiing in Italy and then came to Colorado, where he stayed at Keystone resort and was also skiing.  He was sick enough to need to go to the hospital where they tested him and sure enough, he had won the coronavirus lottery in Italy.

So young, affluent and active.  Definitely not who we think of as most at risk for serious illness.  I am sure the altitude had an effect on the severity of his symptoms.  They have moved him to Denver to be at a lower elevation while recovering/quarantined.  Maybe something else puts him at a higher risk, like being a massive weed smoker...

Oh, shit, I’m fucked.

I dont think someone is more or less at risk of contracting it based on age or health.  Their ability to fight it is another matter.

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Just now, RollLeft said:

I dont think someone is more or less at risk of contracting it based on age or health.  Their ability to fight it is another matter.

Exactly, and this person who seems like they would be at low risk for serious illness became seriously ill.  Enough so to go to the hospital and fucking up his vacation.

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15 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

What's the last state to get hit?  I'm thinking North Dakota or Montana.

do you mean have a case of report a case?

If it's reporting, I'm going to go with Mississippi.  They'll want to keep inline with the whole "oh it's no big deal, why pay for testing?, it's fine, like a cold!" -talking points

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38 minutes ago, Goredho said:

The first case here in Colorado was a man in his 30s who came from California.  He had been skiing in Italy and then came to Colorado, where he stayed at Keystone resort and was also skiing.  He was sick enough to need to go to the hospital where they tested him and sure enough, he had won the coronavirus lottery in Italy.

So young, affluent and active.  Definitely not who we think of as most at risk for serious illness.  I am sure the altitude had an effect on the severity of his symptoms.  They have moved him to Denver to be at a lower elevation while recovering/quarantined.  Maybe something else puts him at a higher risk, like being a massive weed smoker...

Oh, shit, I’m fucked.

I don't think anyone ever said you can't catch it if you're young and healthy, just that you won't die. 

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21 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Exactly, and this person who seems like they would be at low risk for serious illness became seriously ill.  Enough so to go to the hospital and fucking up his vacation.

was it because he was seriously ill or because they wanted to take all precautions with it?

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