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It's coming, just not yet.  I really need to make a liquor store run.  Can you still drive to work under "a shelter in place" order if you're not in the medical field but it's in a structure with less than 10 people?  

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Against my better judgment and several beers deep, I have taken you up on this, potentially ending my streak of totally worthless posts. I have done 3 and 7 day averages only on the Worldometer data. 

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7 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Ethical dilemma. These reports of hydroxychloroquine being effective look promising but right now it's completely on back order. I'm getting a ton of orders from physicians for it as prophylaxis for them and staff. I have lupus patients who need this drug and I have no idea how long this shortage is going to last. I'm going to save 90 days worth for my patients and the rest I really don't want to dispense unless it's a confirmed positive test. Any problem with my logic? Feel free to shoot holes through this plan. I want the local area to be prepared but I can't leave my lupus patients out high and dry.

As a pharmacist and the husband of someone with an autoimmune disease and depends on hydroxychloroquine to control her symptoms, your logic is sound.  This is like all the asshats getting a box of Tamiflu “just in case” about 15 years ago. We didn’t have the drug for active cases as a result.  We need this for confirmed cases and those who already depend on it.

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1 minute ago, Lobo said:

Can you still drive to work under "a shelter in place" order if you're not in the medical field but it's in a structure with less than 10 people?  

You can do whatever you want until you get pulled over or detained. 

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12 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Ethical dilemma. These reports of hydroxychloroquine being effective look promising but right now it's completely on back order. I'm getting a ton of orders from physicians for it as prophylaxis for them and staff. I have lupus patients who need this drug and I have no idea how long this shortage is going to last. I'm going to save 90 days worth for my patients and the rest I really don't want to dispense unless it's a confirmed positive test. Any problem with my logic? Feel free to shoot holes through this plan. I want the local area to be prepared but I can't leave my lupus patients out high and dry.

There is not any good data to state it works well against Covid prophylactically.  It’s basically case reports to say that it does work to prevent serious viral complications actively but it does look promising. I really think state governments are going to need to step in and step edit the limits on Rx for this. It’s pretty selfish to carry a bottle around just in case while supplies are limited.

You are right to be concerned.

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13 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Ethical dilemma. These reports of hydroxychloroquine being effective look promising but right now it's completely on back order. I'm getting a ton of orders from physicians for it as prophylaxis for them and staff. I have lupus patients who need this drug and I have no idea how long this shortage is going to last. I'm going to save 90 days worth for my patients and the rest I really don't want to dispense unless it's a confirmed positive test. Any problem with my logic? Feel free to shoot holes through this plan. I want the local area to be prepared but I can't leave my lupus patients out high and dry.

https://apnews.com/Business Wire/8075f513189d40c4bd2dd46b528202e0

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Ever lived in Texas and had your AC take a shit?  Speaking of shit, plumbers and electricians could be deemed very necessary in some cases.  The list posted several pages back broke construction into categories and things like framing, trim carpentry, painting etc were on the no go list.  

I guess when I think of construction I think of new construction building and etc.
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6 minutes ago, Druggist said:

As a pharmacist and the husband of someone with an autoimmune disease and depends on hydroxychloroquine to control her symptoms, your logic is sound.  This is like all the asshats getting a box of Tamiflu “just in case” about 15 years ago. We didn’t have the drug for active cases as a result.  We need this for confirmed cases and those who already depend on it.

TEL AVIV, Israel & PARSIPPANY, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mar 19, 2020--

Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. (NYSE and TASE: TEVA) announced today the immediate donation of more than 6 million doses of hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets through wholesalers to hospitals across the U.S. to meet the urgent demand for the medicine as an investigational target to treat COVID-19. The company is also looking at additional ways to address the global need.

“We are committed to helping to supply as many tablets as possible as demand for this treatment accelerates at no cost,” said Brendan O’Grady, Teva Executive Vice President, North America Commercial. “Immediately upon learning of the potential benefit of hyroxychloroquine, Teva began to assess supply and to urgently acquire additional ingredients to make more product while arranging for all of what we had to be distributed immediately.”

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There is not any good data to state it works well against Covid prophylactically.  It’s basically case reports to say that it does work to prevent serious viral complications actively but it does look promising. I really think state governments are going to need to step in and step edit the limits on Rx for this. It’s pretty selfish to carry a bottle around just in case while supplies are limited.

You are right to be concerned.

TEL AVIV, Israel & PARSIPPANY, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mar 19, 2020--

Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. (NYSE and TASE: TEVA) announced today the immediate donation of more than 6 million doses of hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets through wholesalers to hospitals across the U.S. to meet the urgent demand for the medicine as an investigational target to treat COVID-19. The company is also looking at additional ways to address the global need.

“We are committed to helping to supply as many tablets as possible as demand for this treatment accelerates at no cost,” said Brendan O’Grady, Teva Executive Vice President, North America Commercial. “Immediately upon learning of the potential benefit of hyroxychloroquine, Teva began to assess supply and to urgently acquire additional ingredients to make more product while arranging for all of what we had to be distributed immediately.”

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Ethical dilemma. These reports of hydroxychloroquine being effective look promising but right now it's completely on back order. I'm getting a ton of orders from physicians for it as prophylaxis for them and staff. I have lupus patients who need this drug and I have no idea how long this shortage is going to last. I'm going to save 90 days worth for my patients and the rest I really don't want to dispense unless it's a confirmed positive test. Any problem with my logic? Feel free to shoot holes through this plan. I want the local area to be prepared but I can't leave my lupus patients out high and dry.

My wife is doing the same thing. They have enough for their customers and that’s about it. She said they can’t get it from anywhere now.
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29 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Ethical dilemma. These reports of hydroxychloroquine being effective look promising but right now it's completely on back order. I'm getting a ton of orders from physicians for it as prophylaxis for them and staff. I have lupus patients who need this drug and I have no idea how long this shortage is going to last. I'm going to save 90 days worth for my patients and the rest I really don't want to dispense unless it's a confirmed positive test. Any problem with my logic? Feel free to shoot holes through this plan. I want the local area to be prepared but I can't leave my lupus patients out high and dry.

The good news is Teva (as mentioned again just above) apparently has 6 million doses ready to drop.  So this could be a godsend.  Obviously we still need guidance on how to best apply it.  I'd go straight to the medical communities in China, SoKo, HK, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore (and even emerging observations in Italy and France) to find out their best consensus recommendations in light of the absence of controlled studies.  Politicians need to get the hell out of the way as much as possible, here and abroad, and let the medical communities be the messengers and spokespeople on ow to best proceed.

The bad news is that the supply of CHQ may be the least of our supply and rationing problems 10 days from now.  It's going to be gut wrenching.

fwiw, I've received notice from my state medical board to be prepared to be called into disaster relief efforts.  So might about to be asked to step directly into the fray.

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39 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Ethical dilemma. These reports of hydroxychloroquine being effective look promising but right now it's completely on back order. I'm getting a ton of orders from physicians for it as prophylaxis for them and staff. I have lupus patients who need this drug and I have no idea how long this shortage is going to last. I'm going to save 90 days worth for my patients and the rest I really don't want to dispense unless it's a confirmed positive test. Any problem with my logic? Feel free to shoot holes through this plan. I want the local area to be prepared but I can't leave my lupus patients out high and dry.

I've got some leftover Mefloquin in my medicine cabinet if that helps.  It's a few years old.

All malaria prophylaxes are the same, right?

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We are having a good day so far numbers wide. Long way to go and this post may seem dumb by tonight. Yesterday we had 4957 cases added, today over halfway through we are at 2542, which is just about even with yesterday's numbers. Could be test related as well. Maybe we had bigger days than expected the last few days due to testing catching up. Or maybe we have hit testing speed capacity for now. 

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If you've got kids taking AP classes...

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Students will take AP exams online due to coronavirus. Here’s how it will work

Students will still be able to take their AP exams after schools shut down because of the coronavirus, the College Board announced Friday.

Like many of their classes, the tests will now be online, according to a news release.

The College Board, which manages college entry exams like the SAT and ACT, said it canceled the “traditional face-to-face exam administrations” in favor of a “streamlined” version.

“Colleges support this solution and are committed to ensuring that AP students receive the credit they have worked this year to earn,” College Board said. “For decades, colleges have accepted a shortened AP Exam for college credit when groups of students have experienced emergencies.”
 

Upcoming test dates for the SAT and ACT were already postponed.

 

But in a survey of 18,000 students enrolled in AP classes, College Board found 91 percent still wanted to the take their AP exams through whatever means possible.

According to Friday’s announcement, here’s how it will work:

  • The tests will last 45 minutes and are designed to be taken online at home. Committees are still selecting the test questions.
  • Because AP classes are taught differently across the country and some students have been out of school longer than others, the exams will only include material covered in class by early March.
  • The “streamlined exams” will be available on computers, tablets and cellphones. Pictures of handwritten work will also be accepted.
  • Teachers concerned about their low-income and rural students without access to technology are encouraged to let the College Board know using this form. They are planning to “invest” in tools to help bridge that divide.
  • The tests will be protected by digital security tools to prevent cheating — “including plagiarism detection software.”
  • Cancellation fees for those already registered to take AP exams will be waived.
  • The tests will be administered on two different dates — one earlier for students who want to take it “while the content is still fresh” and one later for those who need more time to review.
  • A full schedule of exams will be released April 3.
  • Students will have free access to all practice questions.
  • Students and teachers will also have access to free, live AP review courses starting March 25.

For more information, visit the College Board’s website.

 

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6 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:
Don't tell my wife that blowjobs aren't a cure-all please.

If we could just convince the wimmenz that swallowing sperm is an effective preventative measure it would make the isolation much more bearable.

Try this

https://nypost.com/2019/05/03/sperm-is-the-hot-new-wrinkle-treatment-celebrity-facialist/

 

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If you've got kids taking AP classes...

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Students will take AP exams online due to coronavirus. Here’s how it will work

Students will still be able to take their AP exams after schools shut down because of the coronavirus, the College Board announced Friday.

Like many of their classes, the tests will now be online, according to a news release.

The College Board, which manages college entry exams like the SAT and ACT, said it canceled the “traditional face-to-face exam administrations” in favor of a “streamlined” version.

“Colleges support this solution and are committed to ensuring that AP students receive the credit they have worked this year to earn,” College Board said. “For decades, colleges have accepted a shortened AP Exam for college credit when groups of students have experienced emergencies.”
 

Upcoming test dates for the SAT and ACT were already postponed.

 

But in a survey of 18,000 students enrolled in AP classes, College Board found 91 percent still wanted to the take their AP exams through whatever means possible.

According to Friday’s announcement, here’s how it will work:

  • The tests will last 45 minutes and are designed to be taken online at home. Committees are still selecting the test questions.
  • Because AP classes are taught differently across the country and some students have been out of school longer than others, the exams will only include material covered in class by early March.
  • The “streamlined exams” will be available on computers, tablets and cellphones. Pictures of handwritten work will also be accepted.
  • Teachers concerned about their low-income and rural students without access to technology are encouraged to let the College Board know using this form. They are planning to “invest” in tools to help bridge that divide.
  • The tests will be protected by digital security tools to prevent cheating — “including plagiarism detection software.”
  • Cancellation fees for those already registered to take AP exams will be waived.
  • The tests will be administered on two different dates — one earlier for students who want to take it “while the content is still fresh” and one later for those who need more time to review.
  • A full schedule of exams will be released April 3.
  • Students will have free access to all practice questions.
  • Students and teachers will also have access to free, live AP review courses starting March 25.

For more information, visit the College Board’s website.

 

Rampant cheating to commence in 3... 2....

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56 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Ethical dilemma. These reports of hydroxychloroquine being effective look promising but right now it's completely on back order. I'm getting a ton of orders from physicians for it as prophylaxis for them and staff. I have lupus patients who need this drug and I have no idea how long this shortage is going to last. I'm going to save 90 days worth for my patients and the rest I really don't want to dispense unless it's a confirmed positive test. Any problem with my logic? Feel free to shoot holes through this plan. I want the local area to be prepared but I can't leave my lupus patients out high and dry.

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Working from home has it's benefits. Unable to do jack shit until our out of house IT fixes my VPN issues. So I'm about 4 drinks deep and just took a little hit. Guess it is Friday afternoon though so par for the course maybe? 

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We are having a good day so far numbers wide. Long way to go and this post may seem dumb by tonight. Yesterday we had 4957 cases added, today over halfway through we are at 2542, which is just about even with yesterday's numbers. Could be test related as well. Maybe we had bigger days than expected the last few days due to testing catching up. Or maybe we have hit testing speed capacity for now. 

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com

Has us at 3750 for the day.. 1200 until we pass yesterday’s total which would be tonight

We’ll have to reach 6000 to meet the 48 hr double rate.


Deaths are wayyy down today. 14 so far vs 58 yesterday
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18 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

We are having a good day so far numbers wide. Long way to go and this post may seem dumb by tonight. Yesterday we had 4957 cases added, today over halfway through we are at 2542, which is just about even with yesterday's numbers. Could be test related as well. Maybe we had bigger days than expected the last few days due to testing catching up. Or maybe we have hit testing speed capacity for now. 

This begs the question -- are we anywhere close to having the # of available tests we were promised last Sunday?

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Just now, MNLonghornFUKM said:


https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com

Has us at 3750 for the day.. 1200 until we pass yesterday’s total which would be tonight

We’ll have to reach 6000 to meet the 48 hr double rate.


Deaths are wayyy down today. 14 so far vs 58 yesterday

I used the exact same website, big numbers came in from New York like 5 minutes ago

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2 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com

Has us at 3750 for the day.. 1200 until we pass yesterday’s total which would be tonight

We’ll have to reach 6000 to meet the 48 hr double rate.


Deaths are wayyy down today. 14 so far vs 58 yesterday

Also, looking at the data closer, we will have a ton added tonight, right now Cali and Washington are combining for 20 new cases, I doubt those numbers hold, will probably come in a big bunch by days end. 

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PEOPLE. ARE. STUPID.

Have a customer in the store right now to pick up his trailer. Walks in with a god damn mask on and tells the salesman that he got tested but hasn't got the results back yet. But yet he thought it was a good idea to come up here to pick up his new piece of shit trailer. We told him we would do video walk through for him and the finance lady said she'd sit the paper work outside so his mom can sign for him, but he wasn't getting close to anybody. 

This just pisses me off to no end. How dumb can you be?? "oh i might have it but i don't know yet so let me get out in public" Idiot. 

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Italy alone has had 627 more covid deaths in the last 24 hrs.  It’s hard to imagine.

Germany, who initially showed low death rate as a function of total positive cases, is also now showing 3% CFR by one analysis I saw, though likely lower due to undertesting.  The death numbers appear to have been lagging and are starting to mount after it hit so fast with positive cases with lack of progression to deaths.

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9 minutes ago, C-Man said:

This begs the question -- are we anywhere close to having the # of available tests we were promised last Sunday?

I did notice that Dallas basically doubled the testing yesterday compared to all tests to date prior.  Something like 238 through Weds then 200 on Thurs alone.   Still not enough but definitely appear to be ramping up finally.

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Step one: cancel landline

Step two: do not answer any number you don't recognize or have saved on cell phone

Step three: turn off cell phone

Step four: drink

We screen all our calls on the landline & mobiles, and don't ever answer the scammers. Wish I could program my voicemail to recognize the scammers and just tell them to fuck off.

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