Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[B00M 6518]

21 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Did I miss something or did limb amputee suddenly become a covid symptom?

Blood clots. Cytokine storm. Multiple organ failure. Dialysis. Google. 

[Bregs 225]

16 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Ozark

Don’t know if it’s the cabin or the pod, but my daughter would probably be in the same pod as yours, based on their age.
I’m not on the ground up there and it sounds like they’ve got a plan. They have negative pressure room in the infirmary, isolation spaces on and off-site, etc. But with 3 cases in 72 hours and counting, I hope that this is it, and not the beginning of something much larger.

Any update on this?  Mine will be going on Sunday.  The lack of transparency is pissing me off.

[freyguy 4306]

10 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

 

just because you can put it in excel, doesn't mean you should...

[TXSG8R 3362]

7 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Did I miss something or did limb amputee suddenly become a covid symptom?

It’s not a symptom, it’s a potential impact of getting it.  There are plenty of articles talking about how this respiratory disease has a lot of non respiratory impacts. Which is why some of us keep trying to stress that this isn’t something young people (or older people for young people) should be cavalier about. This isn’t the damn flu. 

[gmr548 16617]

How many people have had to have a leg amputated as a result of corona virus ?  I'd say that's a big indicator something else may have been going on, unless he just coincidently contracted something else in the hospital that caused the need to remove a limb.  
The removal of his leg was why I stated there obviously (my fuck up for using the word obviously, apparently that has some pretty damned specific triggering mechanisms for some of y'all) was something else going on with him.  But hey you don't like many of my posts any way so carry on...

Over my skis ? I made a statement that a young guy obviously had something else going on. I should have said he probably had something else going on.  Is that  Better ?  Make everyone feel the i's and t's have been dotted and crossed properly ?
 I don't live and die by what I or anyone else posts here.

Stop putting spaces before question marks. Fuck.

[Bozo_Casanova 26610]

7 hours ago, Bregs said:

Any update on this?  Mine will be going on Sunday.  The lack of transparency is pissing me off.

I got her home yesterday. The short version is that a kid in my daughters cabin had a low fever, and her friend was complaining of not feeling well, so they both went in together. The friend tested positive. While this was happening they moved the cabin to a house outside the camp, and returned them later, giving them a short time to pack a bag for the trip. They are shipping The rest of their stuff (locker etc) home. My kid is exhausted and we are all observing her.she has no fever but a little sore throat, which isn’t unusual for her this time of year. She is quarantined in the master suite. Our other daughter is staying with her uncle. 

I don’t know what to think that this point. They are trying to create what they call an “island of safety”, which sustained multiple breaches over the last 10 days. They are communicating with parents whose kids are already there about what happened. Are they communicating with you? 

Take a look at photo stream on the app and look as session and cabin photos. Masks are being worn indoors, but it otherwise looks like a normal camp session with a ton of hugging, sports, and a general lack of social distance because camp is not about social distance.  The camp is in a tough spot and I empathize. Without a government ordered shutdown they don’t have any options. These are family businesses doing as well as they can. 

Knowing what I know now, I would ask three questions 

1)  Your kid may be sent home early, and you may have to pick them up at a moment’s notice. Is that OK?

2) You may have to no-joke quarantine them for a while when they get home. Not isolate them. Quarantine. And isolate yourself. Can you manage a quarantine?

3) Your child may get coronavirus and spread it to you and others.Is that worth it? 

Hopefully our daughter didn’t get it, and we can put our guard down in 10 days or so. But in retrospect I wish we had made a different decision.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

9 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Stop putting spaces before question marks. Fuck.

Piss off, I like the space. No space looks cramped between exclamation, and question marks. I only keep it tight on periods, commas, and semi colons.  Come at me brah !

[gmr548 16617]

Piss off, I like the space. No space looks cramped between exclamation, and question marks. I only keep it tight on periods, commas, and semi colons.  Come at me brah !

And a space looks like idiot boomer-type, but you do you.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

2 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

8 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Piss off, I like the space. No space looks cramped between exclamation, and question marks. I only keep it tight on periods, commas, and semi colons.  Come at me brah !

And a space looks like idiot boomer-type, but you do you.

Piss off.  You do you, I'm sure that's a lot to manage.  I always love the whole boomer bashing thing, makes you look like a child.

[Armybrat 40942]

19 hours ago, Message Board User said:

 

So fitlump can now claim she’s a regular Harvard student?

[B00M 6518]

33 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Piss off, I like the space. No space looks cramped between exclamation, and question marks. I only keep it tight on periods, commas, and semi colons.  Come at me brah !

For real though, in your actual life, people are judging you over the space. But hey, if you're a 60+ year old that struggles with technology and you want people to know that right up front, keep the space.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Just now, B00M said:

For real though, in your actual life, people are judging you over the space. But hey, if you're a 60+ year old that struggles with technology and you want people to know that right up front, keep the space.

Since when is grammar technological ?  I love that it bothers you.  Oh noes........ people are judging the space I leave between a word and a punctuation mark. Whatever will I do.  

Anyone judging anyone over something like needs a hobby or a life.  

[Armybrat 40942]

“What’s up with that gap?” has apparently taken on a whole new meaning for some folks.

Worst off season ever.

[El Diablo 4232]

It's a glitch created by a millennial ? 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

“What’s up with that gap?” has apparently taken on a whole new meaning for some folks.

Worst off season ever.

[Bozo_Casanova 26610]

10 hours ago, Bregs said:

Any update on this?  Mine will be going on Sunday.  The lack of transparency is pissing me off.

Your kid probably won't be going Sunday. Check your email.

[DDD Dad 14365]

2 hours ago, gmr548 said:

2 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Piss off, I like the space. No space looks cramped between exclamation, and question marks. I only keep it tight on periods, commas, and semi colons.  Come at me brah !

And a space looks like idiot boomer-type, but you do you.

Kerning talk not going away.

[Captain Ron 12935]

I see the problem with Texas. They social distance their grammatical marks, but can't do it in public.

[Bregs 225]

14 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Your kid probably won't be going Sunday. Check your email.

Appreciate the responses.  Looks like we will be taking a pass this summer.

[atomheartbevo 89877]

Brazil, which was blowing up - their president has it.  He was feeling ill on Sunday.    Need to find a list of which world leaders have had it.

[Brew 3049]

Our kids were scheduled for a couple of camps and we ended up canceling them. There was no way they were going to be able to keep kids from being kids and we have one in a higher risk group. The big camp they go to ended up canceling all summer sessions which made the discussion easier. This is all just a precursor to what school reopening will look like.

[Ghost of LL 15559]

So the State Fair of Texas has been canceled.  So if we're going to have Texas-ou this year, it probably won't be in Dallas.

[Wally Pryor 5266]

I don't think they've decided to blow up the Cotton Bowl (is it okay to still call it that?)

 

[DDD Dad 14365]

1 minute ago, Wally Pryor said:

I don't think they've decided to blow up the Cotton Bowl (is it okay to still call it that?)

 

Well that's the name of the stadium so...

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

[Pig Bellmont 8743]

I sure remember a lot of talk about Sweden in this thread. Oops. 

[Hate 20153]

Well that's the name of the stadium so...

For now.

[BradInATX 9208]

11 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I sure remember a lot of talk about Sweden in this thread. Oops. 

 

And they're nowhere near herd immunity. They did a study showing that only 7% of people were infected.

[DDD Dad 14365]

3 minutes ago, Hate said:

For now.

Why would it change?

[ChiTownDoc 21181]

9 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I sure remember a lot of talk about Sweden in this thread. Oops. 

Yeah that was dumb as shit.  To take that kind of risk was batshit crazy, but we aren’t exactly crushing it stateside either.  I know you’re not tooting our horn but has to be mentioned, we’re being laughed at too...

[BradInATX 9208]

Just now, ChiTownDoc said:

Yeah that was dumb as shit.  To take that kind of risk was batshit crazy, but we aren’t exactly crushing it stateside either.  I know you’re not tooting our horn but has to be mentioned, we’re being laughed at too...

Probably more prescriptive to compare Sweden to its European neighbors who have it under control now, not our dumb asses.

[ChiTownDoc 21181]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

 

And they're nowhere near herd immunity. They did a study showing that only 7% of people were infected.

Well, to their credit a couple percentage points could be added for those immune dead folk.  

[BrickHorn 18298]

25 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I sure remember a lot of talk about Sweden in this thread. Oops. 

Stupid people said a lot of stupid things early on. For the most part, they’re still here saying stupid things. They’re just saying different stupid things now. They’ve forgotten or abandoned the stupid things they said a few weeks ago now that the stupidity of those things has borne out. 

The stupid voices on this site (and its predecessors) don’t ever change. Their cycle of stupidity repeats over and over: stupid fucking idiots post stupid shit; reasonable, intelligent posters respond and point out the stupidity of the stupid shit; stupid fucking idiots double down on stupid; pages of one-sided debate ensue; time passes; stupid fucking idiots are eventually prove wrong on previous stupid shit, so they start posting some new brand of stupid shit; and, like Sisyphus, reasonable posters lean against the boulder of stupidity and restart the uphill push yet again.

Welcome to the Internet.

Edited July 7, 2020 by BrickHorn

[MNLonghornFUKM 8834]

 
And they're nowhere near herd immunity. They did a study showing that only 7% of people were infected.

Study based on those reliable antibody tests?

[ChiTownDoc 21181]

Just now, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Study based on those reliable antibody tests?

Well, not just that.  There’s also talk antibodies can wear off but you may still be immune (T cells etc).  But the initial point stands, even factoring all that in, pretty much nobody is saying they’re getting anywhere near herd immunity anytime soon...

[Pam Cummings 9688]

5 hours ago, gmr548 said:

Stop putting spaces before question marks. Fuck.

Sometimes i wonder if english is that dude's first language.

[El Diablo 4232]

Got word today that there's a good chance my employer will not be letting anyone back into the office until first of next year. Probably 1/4 of the workforce, 150? out of 600 - if that many,  still reports to the office but those working from home will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I might as well just go ahead and buy my retirement beach house now, who's going to know the difference?

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1084]

1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I sure remember a lot of talk about Sweden in this thread. Oops. 

from the article:

Quote

More than three months later, the coronavirus is blamed for 5,420 deaths in Sweden, according to the World Health Organization. That might not sound especially horrendous compared with the more than 129,000 Americans who have died. But Sweden is a country of only 10 million people. Per million people, Sweden has suffered 40 percent more deaths than the United States, 12 times more than Norway, seven times more than Finland and six times more than Denmark.

At that rate, Texas would have almost exactly 15,000 deaths.  We'd be freaking the F out. OK, maybe not Dan Patrick.

[dcar00 14435]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Well, not just that.  There’s also talk antibodies can wear off but you may still be immune (T cells etc).  But the initial point stands, even factoring all that in, pretty much nobody is saying they’re getting anywhere near herd immunity anytime soon...

I think we need to wait 2 more weeks to really know.

[DDD Dad 14365]

SIAP

 

So the military is sending medical personnel to San Antonio to assist.  

[gmr548 16617]

Got word today that there's a good chance my employer will not be letting anyone back into the office until first of next year. Probably 1/4 of the workforce, 150? out of 600 - if that many,  still reports to the office but those working from home will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I might as well just go ahead and buy my retirement beach house now, who's going to know the difference?

I don't know why any office setting is having employees come in right now. It makes no sense.

[atomheartbevo 89877]

1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I sure remember a lot of talk about Sweden in this thread. Oops. 

Ms. Sonia is an aggy, do we trust her?

[El Diablo 4232]

18 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

44 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

Got word today that there's a good chance my employer will not be letting anyone back into the office until first of next year. Probably 1/4 of the workforce, 150? out of 600 - if that many,  still reports to the office but those working from home will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I might as well just go ahead and buy my retirement beach house now, who's going to know the difference?

I don't know why any office setting is having employees come in right now. It makes no sense.

They're taking plenty of precautions as you can see by the preemptive order to continue sheltering in place for the remainder of the year. Those who do report to the office are wearing masks 100% of the time and strict social distancing is being enforced. It's a business that requires a lot of hands on paper work or the infrastructure was never designed for some of the most sensitive information to be sent outside of the internal security systems. I'm sure this has them rethinking a lot of things but they're taking care of the workers the best they can as I see it anyway.

[Pig Bellmont 8743]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Ms. Sonia is an aggy, do we trust her?

An aggy working for Fake News? Go figure 

[Don Johnson 4758]

4 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Your kid probably won't be going Sunday. Check your email.

What's the latest?  My kids are supposed to go at the end of July.  We have not received an e-mail.

[Don Johnson 4758]

55 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

What's the latest?  My kids are supposed to go at the end of July.  We have not received an e-mail.

Nevermind.  Got the message.

[Js1 85648]

1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

2 hours ago, El Diablo said:

Got word today that there's a good chance my employer will not be letting anyone back into the office until first of next year. Probably 1/4 of the workforce, 150? out of 600 - if that many,  still reports to the office but those working from home will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I might as well just go ahead and buy my retirement beach house now, who's going to know the difference?

I don't know why any office setting is having employees come in right now. It makes no sense.

We do a rotational thing because the nature of our work (paper filings to Immigration Services - fucking government won't go to electronic filings yet) - 1-2 days per week and everyone is extremely spread out (and the office is only at 55% capacity in terms of desk/office space since before COVID).  Not even sure there's 10 people here per day.

They said this will probably last through the end of 2021. 

Edited July 7, 2020 by Js1

[GHOSTUSER 361]

The NYT's agenda on full display with this article. No mention of the fact that despite a complete lack of lockdown, there have been no new COVID patients admitted to the ICU in Stockholm’s largest hospital for over two weeks. As of today, there are no actively contagious COVID patients in that same hospital. It was all over the news in Sweden. This is a huge victory, and a key indicator that Sweden is “well over the main hump” of surging cases.

This article also completely ignores the social cost of lockdown. The US is already seeing rising rates of violence, depression, and suicide. Children have been out of school for months, and at what cost to their mental health? What about all the diseases that have gone undetected and untreated, thanks to clinics closing down? The side effects are endless, and they can’t be discounted. 

Norway, Denmark, and Finland will all see surges once they ease their lockdowns—just as California was once lauded as a leader in the COVID fight, then crumbled upon reopening. Sweden took a long haul approach that they knew their people could sustain for months, if not years. This is a marathon, not a sprint. 

Edited July 7, 2020 by Iconoclast Texan

[El Diablo 4232]

5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We do a rotational thing because the nature of our work (paper filings to Immigration Services - fucking government won't go to electronic filings yet) - 1-2 days per week and everyone is extremely spread out (and the office is only at 55% capacity in terms of desk/office space since before COVID).  Not even sure there's 10 people here per day.

They said this will probably last through the end of 2021. 

Some of the poor bastards that do have to go to the office are on a rotation here also. Work some from home and the days they are required to go into the office are staggered with others in the same boat.

[El Diablo 4232]

6 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

No mention of the fact that despite a complete lack of lockdown, there have been no new COVID patients admitted to the ICU in Stockholm’s largest hospital for over two weeks. As of today, there are no actively contagious COVID patients in that same hospital. It was all over the news in Sweden. This is a huge victory, and a key indicator that Sweden is “well over the main hump” of surging cases.

This article also completely ignores the social cost of lockdown. The US is already seeing rising rates of violence, depression, and suicide. Children have been out of school for months, and at what cost to their mental health? What about all the diseases that have gone undetected and untreated, thanks to clinics closing down? The side effects are endless, and they can’t be discounted. 

Norway, Denmark, and Finland will all see surges once they ease their lockdowns—just as California was once lauded as a leader in the COVID fight, then crumbled upon reopening. Sweden took a long haul approach that they knew their people could sustain for months, if not years. This is a marathon, not a sprint. 

Their bikini team is aight but I don't know that the "kill the weak ones and let the rest sort it out" strategy has proven itself just yet. What if the disease causes long term health issues among the ones who recover the first time and the SECOND time you contract it you get really sick and DIE. Who's going to be laughing then? The bikini girls?

Edited July 7, 2020 by El Diablo