Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2117]

by my count, if you guessed whether a state had above 40% vaccine rate today using only the electoral college vote in November, you'd score an 86.  B.  Not bad. Outliers in red.

 

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Location	Doses given	Fully vaccinated	% of population fully vaccinated
Texas	23.1M 23,100,000	10.4M 10,400,000	35.7% 35.7%
California	38.5M 38,500,000	17.1M 17,100,000	43.3% 43.3%
New York	19.8M 19,800,000	9.18M 9,180,000	47.2% 47.2%
Florida	18.9M 18,900,000	8.44M 8,440,000	39.3% 39.3%
Pennsylvania	12.6M 12,600,000	5.62M 5,620,000	43.9% 43.9%
Illinois	12.1M 12,100,000	5.1M 5,100,000	40.2% 40.2%
Ohio	9.93M 9,930,000	4.72M 4,720,000	40.3% 40.3%
New Jersey	9.15M 9,150,000	4.36M 4,360,000	49.1% 49.1%
Michigan	8.72M 8,720,000	4.22M 4,220,000	42.3% 42.3%
Virginia	8.4M 8,400,000	3.88M 3,880,000	45.5% 45.5%
North Carolina	8.16M 8,160,000	3.79M 3,790,000	36.2% 36.2%
Massachusetts	8.08M 8,080,000	3.72M 3,720,000	54.0% 54.0%
Washington	7.68M 7,680,000	3.57M 3,570,000	46.9% 46.9%
Georgia	7.61M 7,610,000	3.41M 3,410,000	32.1% 32.1%
Maryland	6.16M 6,160,000	2.92M 2,920,000	48.2% 48.2%
Arizona	5.98M 5,980,000	2.63M 2,630,000	36.2% 36.2%
Colorado	5.64M 5,640,000	2.63M 2,630,000	45.6% 45.6%
Wisconsin	5.49M 5,490,000	2.6M 2,600,000	44.6% 44.6%
Minnesota	5.43M 5,430,000	2.61M 2,610,000	46.2% 46.2%
Indiana	5.12M 5,120,000	2.39M 2,390,000	35.5% 35.5%
Tennessee	4.86M 4,860,000	2.18M 2,180,000	31.9% 31.9%
Missouri	4.69M 4,690,000	2.12M 2,120,000	34.5% 34.5%
Oregon	4.09M 4,090,000	1.92M 1,920,000	45.6% 45.6%
Connecticut	4.05M 4,050,000	1.92M 1,920,000	53.7% 53.7%
South Carolina	3.79M 3,790,000	1.75M 1,750,000	33.9% 33.9%
Kentucky	3.66M 3,660,000	1.72M 1,720,000	38.6% 38.6%
Louisiana	3.1M 3,100,000	1.46M 1,460,000	31.4% 31.4%
Alabama	3.03M 3,030,000	1.44M 1,440,000	29.3% 29.3%
Oklahoma	2.96M 2,960,000	1.34M 1,340,000	33.8% 33.8%
Iowa	2.85M 2,850,000	1.39M 1,390,000	44.0% 44.0%
Puerto Rico	2.72M 2,720,000	1.19M 1,190,000	37.4% 37.4%
Utah	2.59M 2,590,000	1.04M 1,040,000	32.5% 32.5%
Nevada	2.52M 2,520,000	1.14M 1,140,000	37.0% 37.0%
Kansas	2.33M 2,330,000	1.12M 1,120,000	38.5% 38.5%
New Mexico	2.15M 2,150,000	1.01M 1,010,000	48.0% 48.0%
Arkansas	2.08M 2,080,000	943K 943,000	31.3% 31.3%
Mississippi	1.79M 1,790,000	816K 816,000	27.4% 27.4%
Nebraska	1.76M 1,760,000	821K 821,000	42.5% 42.5%
Hawaii	1.62M 1,620,000	676K 676,000	47.8% 47.8%
Maine	1.59M 1,590,000	739K 739,000	55.0% 55.0%
New Hampshire	1.55M 1,550,000	675K 675,000	49.6% 49.6%
West Virginia	1.32M 1,320,000	611K 611,000	34.1% 34.1%
Idaho	1.24M 1,240,000	587K 587,000	32.9% 32.9%
Rhode Island	1.17M 1,170,000	550K 550,000	51.9% 51.9%
Delaware	945K 945,000	423K 423,000	43.5% 43.5%
Montana	894K 894,000	410K 410,000	38.4% 38.4%
Washington, D.C.	791K 791,000	328K 328,000	47.4% 47.4%
Vermont	779K 779,000	353K 353,000	56.6% 56.6%
South Dakota	777K 777,000	376K 376,000	42.5% 42.5%
North Dakota	615K 615,000	279K 279,000	36.6% 36.6%
Alaska	613K 613,000	288K 288,000	39.4%

 

[GRHorn 105]

 

[jimmyjazz 46473]

Well, that's a stupid fucking question.  Are we advising people who are vaccinated or those who aren't?  Democrats, being naturally far more intelligent than Republicans, no doubt assumed with no further information that it's still in people's best interest to distance and mask UNLESS FULLY VACCINATED.

Your shitty little "gotchas" don't gotcha anyone, @GRHorn.  You're still the same troll.  Negged.

[GRHorn 105]

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, that's a stupid fucking question.  Are we advising people who are vaccinated or those who aren't?  Democrats, being naturally far more intelligent than Republicans, no doubt assumed with no further information that it's still in people's best interest to distance and mask UNLESS FULLY VACCINATED.

Your shitty little "gotchas" don't gotcha anyone, @GRHorn.  You're still the same troll.  Negged.

Don’t be such a pussy. It’s a Gallup poll, not a gotcha. 

[jimmyjazz 46473]

8 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Don’t be such a pussy. It’s a Gallup poll, not a gotcha. 

You think the responses are a gotcha.  Pussy.

[Anastasis 23498]

On 6/2/2021 at 10:06 PM, Captainant said:

 

 

 

Cross genre brain worms. Remarkable. 

[GRHorn 105]

19 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You think the responses are a gotcha.  Pussy.

So you’re triggered by the responses to a tweet. Next level.

The CR is populated by independent polymaths. That poll isn’t taking any shots at them. 

[jimmyjazz 46473]

6 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

So you’re triggered by the responses to a tweet. Next level.

While I reject the assertion of "triggered", it's the poll responses I'm talking about.  Try to keep up.

[Captainant 27971]

5 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Cross genre brain worms. Remarkable. 

Oh, go deny someones care you fucking healthcare vulture

[washparkhorn 9939]

 

On 6/3/2021 at 10:00 AM, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

by my count, if you guessed whether a state had above 40% vaccine rate today using only the electoral college vote in November, you'd score an 86.  B.  Not bad. Outliers in red.

We need to boost the competition between states if the goal is to get more shots in arms. It is a national security risk at this point.

Injections puts the United States and her interests on firmer footing in a unsteady geopolitical sphere. I presume we all seek stable ground for the People of the United States? No?

 

Edited June 6, 2021 by washparkhorn

[wildcat09 29453]

Is the TLDR summary of this Florida shit just "Florida"?

[washparkhorn 9939]

11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Is the TLDR summary of this Florida shit just "Florida"?

If the shoe fits . . . 

[Beau Vine 54843]

 

[cactusflinthead 27615]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

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[InkaUtexas 26349]

Bumping this thread since a good one about NEWS vs. POLITICS (Get it right people) is needed. 

Delta variant making an ugly run. Lambda was just announced (emerged from South America), and who the fuck knows what could come out of Collie Station. 

We are seeing new lockdowns from Australia to Zimbabwe and shit is not going away. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21273]

If this motherfucker mutates and makes my vaccine useless, I'm gonna be pissed off beyond belief.  

Scientists did the damn near impossible and got a fantastic vaccine out in less than a year from the original lockdown and the stupid among us are going to fuck it up.

God damn them. 

[GRHorn 105]

2 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

If this motherfucker mutates and makes my vaccine useless, I'm gonna be pissed off beyond belief.  

Scientists did the damn near impossible and got a fantastic vaccine out in less than a year from the original lockdown and the stupid among us are going to fuck it up.

God damn them. 

the variants are coming from other parts of the world where there's limited vaccine availability. it's not from hesitancy, numbnuts.

[washparkhorn 9939]

2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Delta variant making an ugly run.

Natural selection at work.  Free-Riders to this point have been lucky. Now they pose a threat to the vaccinated as they become breeding ground for variants of concern. 

[InkaUtexas 26349]

Was just about to say the same thing. Sure we have people here, but the globe at large is where the issues are coming from. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

Upward trend in the United States: 

[fattyflattie 4639]

6 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

the variants are coming from other parts of the world where there's limited vaccine availability. it's not from hesitancy, numbnuts.

Well, in addition to the holdouts. But yes, the billion people in India that can’t get it, and the useless Chinese vaccines not helping the situation. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

The South + Texas:

[Guest Lobo]

Do the stupid people think that the variants are still coming out of a lab in China or from the bodies of unvaccinated where the variant can sort of play DJ and mix and match the tracks he loves best?  

[washparkhorn 9939]

California (more Trump voters than any other state including Texas and Florida) is now chasing Texas as the numbers swell:

[DigglerontheHoof 21273]

13 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

the variants are coming from other parts of the world where there's limited vaccine availability. it's not from hesitancy, numbnuts.

Until the Big Southern Dummy mutation hits, penis wrinkle. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8916]

Upward trend in the United States: 

We need to rule of thumb it. Holiday week, plus many states didn’t report on Monday also so it could be a case dump from a few days.

[InkaUtexas 26349]

11 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

California (more Trump voters than any other state including Texas and Florida) is now chasing Texas as the numbers swell:

Take it to the Politics Thread. This is for news. It is why I started it and due to peoples inability to control where they post it was moved the CR. Maybe we can get it back to where it belongs. DT with NO FUCKING POLITICS. 

Got something to say about Cali, fine, post the news. Leave the Trump or Biden discussion where it belongs so the overlords do not kill it all together. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

Take it to the Politics Thread. This is for news. It is why I started it and due to peoples inability to control where they post it was moved the CR. Maybe we can get it back to where it belongs. DT with NO FUCKING POLITICS. 

Got something to say about Cali, fine, post the news. Leave the Trump or Biden discussion where it belongs so the overlords do not kill it all together. 

Vaccine hesitancy among Trump supporters is not political in this context. It helps illuminate trends in the virus and correlates the data with facts.  Vaccine hesitancy is a public health issue, not a political dispute.  As a nation and a world, we need vaccinations in arms, yesterday. 

But I understand your concern. 

[aggie08 21579]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Take it to the Politics Thread. This is for news. It is why I started it and due to peoples inability to control where they post it was moved the CR. Maybe we can get it back to where it belongs. DT with NO FUCKING POLITICS. 

Got something to say about Cali, fine, post the news. Leave the Trump or Biden discussion where it belongs so the overlords do not kill it all together. 

I'd suggest starting a new thread on variants in DT, then. This one is dead, Jim.

[InkaUtexas 26349]

I want an active thread for news. So just say Cali is trending up. We are smart people on this board. We know politics. All I am asking is leave the politics to the other thread in the CR.

If I had wanted to start a CR Thread I would have. This thread should be in DT. It is not. That sucks. 

 

[InkaUtexas 26349]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

I'd suggest starting a new thread on variants in DT, then. This one is dead, Jim.

Nope, I am not going to quit dammit... Main reason is that one will end up being full of politics as well. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

I want an active thread for news. So just say Cali is trending up. We are smart people on this board. We know politics. All I am asking is leave the politics to the other thread in the CR.

If I had wanted to start a CR Thread I would have. This thread should be in DT. It is not. That sucks. 

 

You want a thread where no one comments on why a state or region is trending up?  

[InkaUtexas 26349]

State fine, region fine, just leave the politics out of it. COVID News vs. Political slant. 

[mdmost 43301]

4 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I want an active thread for news. So just say Cali is trending up. We are smart people on this board. We know politics. All I am asking is leave the politics to the other thread in the CR.

If I had wanted to start a CR Thread I would have. This thread should be in DT. It is not. That sucks. 

 

Maybe go back to Bada Bing and start another thread with just news. There's a Texas thread still there. I don't think imma or blacklab are going to slap your hand if you do it. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

State fine, region fine, just leave the politics out of it. COVID News vs. Political slant. 

Mine were not political posts. Vaccine hesitancy is a fact in this nation and provide us with NEWS of where this is headed. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19243]

Bumping this thread since a good one about NEWS vs. POLITICS (Get it right people) is needed. 
Delta variant making an ugly run. Lambda was just announced (emerged from South America), and who the fuck knows what could come out of Collie Station. 
We are seeing new lockdowns from Australia to Zimbabwe and shit is not going away. 

Lambda was first identified in March 2020 in Peru I believe.

[washparkhorn 9939]

News: Worldwide rates going the wrong way:

[InkaUtexas 26349]

5 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Bumping this thread since a good one about NEWS vs. POLITICS (Get it right people) is needed. 
Delta variant making an ugly run. Lambda was just announced (emerged from South America), and who the fuck knows what could come out of Collie Station. 
We are seeing new lockdowns from Australia to Zimbabwe and shit is not going away. 

Lambda was first identified in March 2020 in Peru I believe.

Yes, but making a massive push into Chile now as well. Seems to kick the shit out of SINOVAC which is the dominant vaccine in South America.

Here is an article about P.1 from Brazil. 

Scientists have also had their eye on a third concerning variant that arose in Brazil, called P.1. Research had been slower on P.1 since its discovery in late December, leaving scientists unsure of just how much to worry about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/health/covid-19-coronavirus-brazil-variant.html

 

More. 

P.1 has a triple spike mutation

When it comes to genetic analysis, the team found that P.1 is different from the previous strains of COVID. The Brazilian mutation has collected 17 mutations – including an important trio of mutations in the spike protein (K417T, E484K and N501Y).

The spike is what the antibodies in vaccines are generally identifying and destroying, so too many mutations of the spike can give the virus an edge against naturally created antibodies – that is, antibodies that happen in a person after they survive COVID-19.

For context, the Indian variant has a double spike mutation. This one has a triple spike mutation.

Samir Bhatt said: “Our analysis shows that P.1 emerged in Manaus around November 2020. It went from not being detectable in our genetic samples to accounting for 87 percent of the positive samples in just seven weeks.

https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/brazilian-covid-mutation-2/109385/

 

 

Edited July 8, 2021 by InkaUtexas

[Brisketexan 105570]

It is in our self-interest to get good vaccines to big-ass countries where the virus is still running wild.

We spent the last 20 years taking a "take out the terrorists where they live, so they aren't able to attack us here at home".....it's damned sure a sound strategy for dealing with a highly-transmissible disease.

[fattyflattie 4639]

21 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Mine were not political posts. Vaccine hesitancy is a fact in this nation and provide us with NEWS of where this is headed. 

It is tho. Another massive group of hesitancy is POC. While I’m not certain how most of them voted, you can make an assumption they weren’t trumpkins.  So yeah, it’s not hard to avoid the politics with news, but diving into it further can complicate that. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

It is though. Another massive group of hesitancy is POC. While I’m not certain how most of them voted, you can make an assumption they weren’t trumpkins.  So yeah, it’s not hard to avoid the politics with news, but diving into it further can complicate that. 

No it's not. Some of you - not the author of this thread - want a bubble where you do not have to consider the consequences of poor behavior in this public health crisis. That's not how facts and news work.

You can't make up facts. News forces you to consider uncomfortable facts. That is an essential function of the Press in our nation. 

News informs - whether the news is flattering for the reader or not.  

[InkaUtexas 26349]

your news was fine. Posts which added  political slant, like your editorial addition about how the state's voting numbers were set is what got this thread pushed into the CR. That is all I am saying kind sir. And there is a thread to ridicule all the anti-vexers. 

 

[washparkhorn 9939]

2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

your news was fine. Posts which added  political slant, like your editorial addition about how the state's voting numbers were set is what got this thread pushed into the CR. That is all I am saying kind sir. And there is a thread to ridicule all the anti-vaxxers. 

Last post on the topic of what is and what is not news.

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I don't want to ridicule the vaccine hesitant, but each of us need to recognize the continuing threat they pose to this nation's economy and health.

Those adults without legitimate reasons to avoid the vaccine should be seen for what they are - free riders in a nation where herd immunity has not been reached. This free rider problem in the US is a public health and economic concern. News about the free rider problem informs and helps solve this public health and economic problem. 

Covid should have never been political issue. The nation should have rallied together. We didn't and the negative externalities from the divide continue to obstruct the public health and economic response to the pandemic. We can do better. 

 

Can we go back to the news and not the definition of the news now? 

[elfenix 34385]

may cause erectile dysfunction, needs more study. 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-06/can-covid-19-cause-lasting-erectile-dysfunction

[InkaUtexas 26349]

2 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Last post on the topic of what is and what is not news.

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I don't want to ridicule the vaccine hesitant, but each of us need to recognize the continuing threat they pose to this nation's economy and health.

Those adults without legitimate reasons to avoid the vaccine should be seen for what they are - free riders in a nation where herd immunity has not been reached. This free rider problem in the US is a public health and economic concern. News about the free rider problem informs and helps solve this public health and economic problem. 

Covid should have never been political issue. The nation should have rallied together. We didn't and the negative externalities from the divide continue to obstruct the public health and economic response to the pandemic. We can do better. 

 

Can we go back to the news and not the definition of the news now? 

Sure thing Boss. 

We are seeing African Nations go back into full lock downs. Just had a call from a client in Rwanda. They are back to lock down and CDC just stated they are at level, thus zero travel unless critical. 

Africa is a mess, hard to get good news on it though. I have sent an email blast to contacts across the continent and will try and keep up with what countries are doing what. 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11823]

20 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Sure thing Boss. 

We are seeing African Nations go back into full lock downs. Just had a call from a client in Rwanda. They are back to lock down and CDC just stated they are at level, thus zero travel unless critical. 

Africa is a mess, hard to get good news on it though. I have sent an email blast to contacts across the continent and will try and keep up with what countries are doing what. 

We are trying to schedule some in-country work in Israel in the early fall and nobody will commit to doing it right now.  It's a wait and see game.

[Jiggy-Z 3467]

46 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

We are trying to schedule some in-country work in Israel in the early fall and nobody will commit to doing it right now.  It's a wait and see game.

Plane is standing by:

 

Edited July 8, 2021 by Jiggy-Z

[Guest Lobo]

I think they're looking for a cure to this at the Des Moines Institute.

"You know it?"  

[jimmyjazz 46473]

The DT thread was full on political over a year ago.  Stop blaming CR posters.  Your shitty thread was full of shitty Trumpkins bashing anyone with a reasonable take on the problem.

[InkaUtexas 26349]

I am not blaming CR posters and I do not disagree with you. I am saying there is a politics thread. Argue there and let this one be for news.