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  On 3/8/2021 at 5:24 PM, Aqua Buddha said:

How about eat better, get some exercise, and lose some fucking weight?

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The CDC has gone politically correct. We don’t have the balls to call it like it is in this country.

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/obesity-is-key-driver-of-a-nations-covid-death-toll-global-study-finds/

10 frickin times higher death rate in overweight countries. That’s us. We could have done a lot of things better in our response but we were a ticking time bomb set up for failure.

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Remember when Trump overturned efforts to put better and healthier foods in schools and all of you guys screamed from the rooftops about how important health and BMI are?

I don't either.

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Posted
  On 3/8/2021 at 5:51 PM, BradInATX said:

Remember when Trump overturned efforts to put better and healthier foods in schools and all of you guys screamed from the rooftops about how important health and BMI are?

I don't either.

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No one is getting fat off of school lunches

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  On 3/8/2021 at 5:59 PM, Neonmoon said:

You can't get fat if you eat shitty food 1 out of 2 meals a day? 

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School lunch isn't an "all you can eat buffet". If you kid is obese, it's because you are letting him eat McDonalds / Cheetos / Coke and watch TV until bed time.

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That doesn't have anything to do with anything. Eating habits are developed in your formative years. Unhealthy school lunches promote bad eating habits. This is all accepted and boxed-up science that you're trying to distract and obfuscate away from.

LOL at ya'll suddenly slinking away from the "healthy eating habits are important!!" thing you won't ever shut up about when confronted with the fact that the guy you voted for destroyed regulations meant to teach kids better eating habits and combat obesity.

You can't have it both ways.

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  On 3/8/2021 at 6:23 PM, BradInATX said:

That doesn't have anything to do with anything. Eating habits are developed in your formative years. Unhealthy school lunches promote bad eating habits. This is all accepted and boxed-up science that you're trying to distract and obfuscate away from.

LOL at ya'll suddenly slinking away from the "healthy eating habits are important!!" thing you won't ever shut up about when confronted with the fact that the guy you voted for destroyed regulations meant to teach kids better eating habits and combat obesity.

You can't have it both ways.

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you get fat because you consume too many calories and don't burn enough off with exercise.

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  On 3/8/2021 at 6:28 PM, dcar00 said:

you get fat because you consume too many calories and don't burn enough off with exercise.

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Cool biology lesson. What do you think you've contributed to the conversation here?

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Shouldn’t we be blaming Hoover, FDR and Truman for poor eating habits of the old and heavy that are dying?

In all seriousness it’s sad seeing kids at a young age look so big along with their siblings. I could drop a few winter pounds but I went bought an exercise bike and do a ton of outdoor stuff this spring. Most of the country had the perfect chance to better themselves all of last year

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  On 3/8/2021 at 6:49 PM, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Shouldn’t we be blaming Hoover, FDR and Truman for poor eating habits of the old and heavy that are dying?

In all seriousness it’s sad seeing kids at a young age look so big along with their siblings.

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There's a lot of blame to go around. A lot of it is on parents. The corrupt FDA and the corrupt agricultural industry promoting incredibly poor eating habits like the original food pyramid. A lot of it on politicians. Some of it on weak food labeling laws. Some of it on the eating habits they learn in school. 

We're supposed to care about the health of society and its children all of the time, not just when it's politically expedient to do so. 

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  On 3/8/2021 at 6:39 PM, BradInATX said:

 

Hypocrites going to hypocrite.

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Or, you could say that a good portion of the blame for obesity is misguided govt. policies. Some folks want to fix that with more govt. policy and act surprised when other folks question that logic.

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Posted
  On 3/8/2021 at 6:52 PM, Newdoc said:

Obesity is actually incredibly complex so arguing about school lunches is a distraction from the overall problem.

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Covid is actually incredibly complex so arguing about obesity is a distraction from the overall problem.

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"FAT PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM WITH COVID"

"Remember when the guy you voted for repealed laws meant to fight childhood obesity and teach better eating habits?"

"LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT FAT PEOPLE ANYMORE"

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Posted
  On 3/8/2021 at 6:58 PM, BradInATX said:

"FAT PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM WITH COVID"

"Remember when the guy you voted for repealed laws meant to fight childhood obesity and teach better eating habits?"

"LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT FAT PEOPLE ANYMORE"

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No one said that. Are you arguing with yourself?

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Dude, we all know Trump is fat...but I don't think it was from the lunches he had a at school.  What's your point again?  

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BTW, my point is actually that I agree that obesity and public health is a major problem. The problem is that there is one political party actively fighting any measures to try to help it. Obamacare had funding to prevent childhood obesity. Trump overturned the healthy school lunches work that Michelle Obama did. 

If you guys were serious about it, you'd demand better from your politicians. But you're not actually serious about it as a national problem, you just like using it to deflect and distract from the terrible job our country(#bothsides) has done re:Covid.

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  On 3/8/2021 at 7:12 PM, BradInATX said:

BTW, my point is actually that I agree that obesity and public health is a major problem. The problem is that there is one political party actively fighting any measures to try to help it. Obamacare had funding to prevent childhood obesity. Trump overturned the healthy school lunches work that Michelle Obama did. 

If you guys were serious about it, you'd demand better from your politicians. But you're not actually serious about it as a national problem, you just like using it to deflect from the terrible job our country(#bothsides) has done re:Covid.

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whatever fatty. don't be so fat with your hot covid takes

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Posted (edited)
  On 3/8/2021 at 7:12 PM, BradInATX said:

BTW, my point is actually that I agree that obesity and public health is a major problem. The problem is that there is one political party actively fighting any measures to try to help it. Obamacare had funding to prevent childhood obesity. Trump overturned the healthy school lunches work that Michelle Obama did. 

If you guys were serious about it, you'd demand better from your politicians. But you're not actually serious about it as a national problem, you just like using it to deflect from the terrible job our country(#bothsides) has done re:Covid.

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This might be your worst take yet. Children aren't dying of Covid because they eat too much lunch at school. OLDER people are dying at larger numbers in the US because they are fatter than other countries. Everything isn't political. People make choices. Personal responsibility.

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Posted
  On 3/8/2021 at 5:48 PM, Newdoc said:

The CDC has gone politically correct. We don’t have the balls to call it like it is in this country.

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/obesity-is-key-driver-of-a-nations-covid-death-toll-global-study-finds/

10 frickin times higher death rate in overweight countries. That’s us. We could have done a lot of things better in our response but we were a ticking time bomb set up for failure.

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saw an article today that the US and UK have 2 of the oldest populations so that is why the death numbers (per capita) are so bad vs the world.  Said it was 16% for the US and 20% for the UK, while some others like India and some African countries were much lower at ~3% or so.  Then combine that with the fact that Americans are fat and sit indoors all day and there you go.

I was commenting (either to my wife; no pics or rambling to myself) yesterday just baffled how we suck so bad at death rates.  Yes, we probably report it more accurately, but there has to be more of it.  Age could explain a good portion of that.  We also keep our old people centralized in long term storage meat lockers all crowded together, which does not favor the US in this situation.  anyway, NYT article below.

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  On 3/8/2021 at 7:16 PM, Cheeseweasel said:

This might be your worst take yet. Children aren't dying of Covid because they eat too much lunch at school. OLDER people are dying at larger numbers in the US because they are fatter than other countries. Everything isn't political. People make choices. Personal responsibility.

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The politicization is the problem. The only time I've ever seen anyone lament our obesity problem on this board is when they feel like their politicians are being attacked for their Covid response. It's a scapegoat, not something that anyone truly gives a shit about.

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  On 3/8/2021 at 6:09 PM, Cheeseweasel said:
Wait. I was told kids were starving. Now they are getting too much food? 

US kids are simultaneously obese and malnourished. And COVID and joblessness have put more kids in jeopardy. If all you get is fast food, canned food from Dollar Tree and frozen dinners, that takes a toll.
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  On 3/8/2021 at 7:22 PM, Eskimohorn said:


US kids are simultaneously obese and malnourished. And COVID and joblessness have put more kids in jeopardy. If all you get is fast food, canned food from Dollar Tree and frozen dinners, that takes a toll.

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Shitty parents are shitty. Film at 11.

Posted
  On 3/8/2021 at 7:43 PM, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Is putting baking soda in the freezer a Texas thing?

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Being an ex-smoker (she quit in 1976), Mrs. Brat is hypersensitive about any kind of odors, even slight, almost imperceptible ones. Hence the baking soda in the freezer and the fridge.

Not to mention all our laundry products, deodorants, room sprays, etc. are of the “free” or “neutral” variety.

She even tears the perfume & cologne ads out of the new magazines she gets before reading them.

Plus she keeps a large supply of GasEx handy for yours truly after I have dined on TexMex or BBQ.

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  On 3/8/2021 at 6:56 PM, BradInATX said:

 

Covid is actually incredibly complex so arguing about obesity is a distraction from the overall problem.

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Actually no. Especially when obesity is the number one risk factor for dying from Covid aside from being super old. And obesity is much more complex than the pandemic. Obesity is it’s own pandemic. It’s just not directly contagious.

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Posted (edited)
  On 3/8/2021 at 8:20 PM, Newdoc said:

Actually no. Especially when obesity is the number one risk factor for dying from Covid aside from being super old. And obesity is much more complex than the pandemic. Obesity is it’s own pandemic. It’s just not directly contagious.

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The number one risk factor for Covid death is catching Covid. And yet here a certain 5-6 of you are, constantly harping on obesity while the politicians you vote for actively encourage our citizens to do things that put them in danger of catching the virus. Every single person on this thread knows that the obesity thing is a deflection from other conversations that a certain subset of people don't want to have. We all know the country is fat. That doesn't change that we fucked up our Coronavirus response terribly and killed people that didn't need to die.

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Death Rate actual vs. expected based on obesity rates. Dotted line is expected death rate (deaths per 100k people) based on obesity rate.

Above the dotted line is bad.

 

 

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So we don't get to use obesity as our excuse. Even accounting for that, we're one of the worst performing countries in the world. The countries directly above and below us in terms of obesity rates have 14% and 25% of the deaths per capita that we have. But hey, we did better than Sweden at least.

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