Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[lmao 178]

Some pretty good points..

[Enchubben 5509]

Bill better watch his ass. He hasn’t exactly been toting the lefts narrative lately and is almost sounding, dare I say it, open minded? 

[JimmyJames 12271]

8 hours ago, GRHorn said:

Unleash the Fauci

The only reasonable explanation at this point is this guy likes having and exerting control over substantial portions of the population.  A real saint, I tell ya. 

Yeah. That’s the only reasonable explanation. 

[Message Board User 12389]

7 hours ago, lmao said:

Some pretty good points..

Absolutely bonkers that 70% of Democrats think that the chances of getting hospitalized from Covid is above 20%.  Explains a lot.  

Maher has done a good job recently of calling out the radical and woke left.

And glad Maher mentioned DeSantis, who is batting almost 1.000 over the past year.

 

[dcar00 14035]

There are still national govt commercials running saying to stay home unless "absolutely necessary" to go out.  This is crazy.

[Brisketexan 104626]

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because 50% of people who stand on one side of the political aisle won’t get a vaccine? Is that bonkers enough for you?

I think that the “after you are vaccinated, still wear a full NBC suit” approach is madness....but that madness wont prolong the pandemic. The “I won’t get a shot because it’s all a hoax and I won’t let Bill Gates and George Soros control me” approach is madness that’s going to keep the pandemic chugging along. I’m most angry at the approach that is going to hurt us the most. And it’s that one.

[Brisketexan 104626]

Dp

[smoky 837]

Pausing j&j was fucking dumb.

It...

A) will prolong the pandemic, especially in rural america where getting two shots is a lot more difficult

B ) adds fuel to the "vaccines aren't safe" crowd

C) Will kill more people due to getting covid because they aren't vaccinated than they will because they developed blood clots

[mdmost 42865]

Fully agree on all points.

[Chewbacca 7730]

Pausing j&j was fucking dumb.

It...

A) will prolong the pandemic, especially in rural america where getting two shots is a lot more difficult

B ) adds fuel to the "vaccines aren't safe" crowd

C) Will kill more people due to getting covid because they aren't vaccinated than they will because they developed blood clots

Yep. Huge mistake pausing it. Just going to fuel the anti vaxxers and keep people from getting it.

[Parliament 14138]

Ontario government going in dry. Totally Canada's problem not ours, but man...

https://t.co/cBP8kCTG16

[dcar00 14035]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because 50% of people who stand on one side of the political aisle won’t get a vaccine? Is that bonkers enough for you?

I think that the “after you are vaccinated, still wear a full NBC suit” approach is madness....but that madness wont prolong the pandemic. The “I won’t get a shot because it’s all a hoax and I won’t let Bill Gates and George Soros control me” approach is madness that’s going to keep the pandemic chugging along. I’m most angry at the approach that is going to hurt us the most. And it’s that one.

more ridiculous hyperbole.  you might back away from the ledge.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Ontario government going in dry. Totally Canada's problem not ours, but man...

https://t.co/cBP8kCTG16

Gonna have problems on both borders now

[mchookem 16220]

5 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Bill better watch his ass. He hasn’t exactly been toting the lefts narrative lately and is almost sounding, dare I say it, open minded? 

you may not follow him regularly...but he rarely 'totes the lefts narrative'. i would venture he is disliked pretty evenly by both sides. i mean, he is and has always been 'politically incorrect'. 

i appreciated his segment last night.  

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

36 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

more ridiculous hyperbole.  you might back away from the ledge.

Lamenting the fact that a large percentage of our population are brain dead morons isn’t hyperbole, it’s reality.   But you feel free to keep licking doorknobs.   

[dcar00 14035]

7 minutes ago, mchookem said:

you may not follow him regularly...but he rarely 'totes the lefts narrative'. i would venture he is disliked pretty evenly by both sides. i mean, he is and has always been 'politically incorrect'. 

i appreciated his segment last night.  

he's willing to call the left out in the face of overwhelmingly obvious situations but he generally runs with the left narrative up until that point.  he's better than most because at least he's willing to bend sometimes.

[dcar00 14035]

1 minute ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Lamenting the fact that a large percentage of our population are brain dead morons isn’t hyperbole, it’s reality.   But you feel free to keep licking doorknobs.   

you nor brisket has any idea how many people of a particular political ilk have or will take the vaccine. its the same bullshit as the "OMG mask usage!" percentages that the same group spouted. 

[Sawbonz 27436]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because 50% of people who stand on one side of the political aisle won’t get a vaccine? Is that bonkers enough for you?

I think that the “after you are vaccinated, still wear a full NBC suit” approach is madness....but that madness wont prolong the pandemic. The “I won’t get a shot because it’s all a hoax and I won’t let Bill Gates and George Soros control me” approach is madness that’s going to keep the pandemic chugging along. I’m most angry at the approach that is going to hurt us the most. And it’s that one.

I see all gods children in my practice. With my patients, resistance to covid vaccine cuts across all political religious and ethnic lines. I’ve stopped trying to guess because it’s so random who is anti vax. And some that are all about their flu vaccine won’t get the Covid. 

[Brisketexan 104626]

you nor brisket has any idea how many people of a particular political ilk have or will take the vaccine. its the same bullshit as the "OMG mask usage!" percentages that the same group spouted. 

Umm....I’m literally citing reported polling numbers. I didn’t make up shit,

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

34 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

you nor brisket has any idea how many people of a particular political ilk have or will take the vaccine. its the same bullshit as the "OMG mask usage!" percentages that the same group spouted. 

Are you vaccinated?  I am.  I also wear a mask in businesses that require masks.  It’s not real hard to separate the “ilk”.  I don’t care what your politics are, if you’re anti mask and or anti-vax you’re a fucking dumbass and are a danger to your fellow citizens.  

Edited April 17, 2021 by Judge Roybeanbag

[Bruno Sardine 147]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because 50% of people who stand on one side of the political aisle won’t get a vaccine? Is that bonkers enough for you?

I think that the “after you are vaccinated, still wear a full NBC suit” approach is madness....but that madness wont prolong the pandemic. The “I won’t get a shot because it’s all a hoax and I won’t let Bill Gates and George Soros control me” approach is madness that’s going to keep the pandemic chugging along. I’m most angry at the approach that is going to hurt us the most. And it’s that one.

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because the CDC/FDA, under President Biden, suspended use of the J & J vaccine, resulting in the cancellation of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of vaccine appointments and undermining public trust in vaccines? It is sad that due to the actions of one side of the political aisle we just took a giant step back in the fight against Covid.

I hope that sounds as absurd as your post. And you’re a great poster, no offense. 

[Brisketexan 104626]

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because the CDC/FDA, under President Biden, suspended use of the J & J vaccine, resulting in the cancellation of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of vaccine appointments and undermining public trust in vaccines? It is sad that due to the actions of one side of the political aisle we just took a giant step back in the fight against Covid.
I hope that sounds as absurd as your post. And you’re a great poster, no offense. 

Other than the fact that among sane people, that action shouldn’t undermine our trusts in vaccines and the process....it should reinforce it. But among our population, you’re dead on that the effect will be negative,

We should run all of our policies through a “how would abject morons perceive this?” filter and proceed accordingly.

[lmao 178]

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because 50% of people who stand on one side of the political aisle won’t get a vaccine? Is that bonkers enough for you?

I think that the “after you are vaccinated, still wear a full NBC suit” approach is madness....but that madness wont prolong the pandemic. The “I won’t get a shot because it’s all a hoax and I won’t let Bill Gates and George Soros control me” approach is madness that’s going to keep the pandemic chugging along. I’m most angry at the approach that is going to hurt us the most. And it’s that one.

For the third or fourth time. The anti-vax demo is diverse, it isn't just muh freedomz retards.

[Bozo_Casanova 26284]

15 minutes ago, Bruno Sardine said:

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because the CDC/FDA, under President Biden, suspended use of the J & J vaccine, resulting in the cancellation of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of vaccine appointments and undermining public trust in vaccines? It is sad that due to the actions of one side of the political aisle we just took a giant step back in the fight against Covid.

I hope that sounds as absurd as your post. And you’re a great poster, no offense. 

No offense this is a really facepalm inducing post. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26284]

27 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Umm....I’m literally citing reported polling numbers. I didn’t make up shit,

ilk tho

Edited April 17, 2021 by Bozo_Casanova

[Brisketexan 104626]

For the third or fourth time. The anti-vax demo is diverse, it isn't just muh freedomz retards.

No, it’s not just them. There’s absolutely an organic granola bag of nutbars. But among Dem voters, it’s around 4% who say they’ll never get vaxxed....among Republicans voters, it’s around 50%. That’s a big fucking number, and it will have an effect.

[Bruno Sardine 147]

15 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No offense this is a really facepalm inducing post. 

None taken. Enjoy your weekend!

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

16 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

ilk tho

I’ve been on the southern edge of the US for quite a time, and have come to the realization that people who use the term “ilk” or “cabal” are fucking dumbasses. 

[Sawbonz 27436]

28 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

No, it’s not just them. There’s absolutely an organic granola bag of nutbars. But among Dem voters, it’s around 4% who say they’ll never get vaxxed....among Republicans voters, it’s around 50%. That’s a big fucking number, and it will have an effect.

I guess 41% is around 50%. That’s law school rounding right?

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-41-percent-of-republicans-dont-plan-to-get-the-covid-vaccine

Edited April 17, 2021 by Sawbonz

[Brisketexan 104626]

I guess 41% is around 50%. That’s law school rounding right?
 
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-41-percent-of-republicans-dont-plan-to-get-the-covid-vaccine

I’ll have to dig it back up, but saw recent polling that had it at 50%. But in any case...since contingency fees are often 40%, rounding up to 50 does my lawyer heart good.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I’ll have to dig it back up, but saw recent polling that had it at 50%. But in any case...since contingency fees are often 40%, rounding up to 50 does my lawyer heart good.

Bless their hearts.   Thoughts and prayers.  

[Wulaw Horn 18981]

6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

How bonkers is it that we have a clear path to ending this thing (get enough folks vaccinated), and we’re already approaching a stall because 50% of people who stand on one side of the political aisle won’t get a vaccine? Is that bonkers enough for you?

I think that the “after you are vaccinated, still wear a full NBC suit” approach is madness....but that madness wont prolong the pandemic. The “I won’t get a shot because it’s all a hoax and I won’t let Bill Gates and George Soros control me” approach is madness that’s going to keep the pandemic chugging along. I’m most angry at the approach that is going to hurt us the most. And it’s that one.

That madness on the full body suit will prolong the pandemic. It signals that the vaccine doesn’t work/there is no upside to getting it for many dumbasses. It’s awful messaging that will be partly responsible for killing people. I won’t weep for those bc they are choosing not to get their shot which is stupid AF, but it doesn’t help to have dickhead Fauci doing his doom porn routine or Biden whose been vax’ed double bagging it. Absolutely dogshit optics and massive fail by the government/leaders. 

Edited April 17, 2021 by Wulaw Horn

[Enchubben 5509]

meanwhile in Canada LOL.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNx0nx0HU9V/?igshid=3poefnxbl66k

[Wulaw Horn 18981]

4 hours ago, mchookem said:

you may not follow him regularly...but he rarely 'totes the lefts narrative'. i would venture he is disliked pretty evenly by both sides. i mean, he is and has always been 'politically incorrect'. 

i appreciated his segment last night.  

He’s a definite liberal and I agree with him very seldomly but he’s intellectually honest and I appreciate him.  No problems with that dude from my POV 

[Okie State 3788]

Ontario government going in dry. Totally Canada's problem not ours, but man...

https://t.co/cBP8kCTG16

Got damn...

[Sawbonz 27436]

24 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

meanwhile in Canada LOL.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNx0nx0HU9V/?igshid=3poefnxbl66k

[Enchubben 5509]

Oh and don’t bother looking for their bill of rights on the Canadian government page, as that has been deleted/taken down.

Probably just a coincidence though, probably...

[XYZ 2154]

1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

meanwhile in Canada LOL.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNx0nx0HU9V/?igshid=3poefnxbl66k

What about Canada? Some of us don’t use instagram.

[gmr548 16514]

Fully vaccinated. Still throw a mask on when running into the store or if we go to an restaurant or whatever. For one, most places still require it, and in general we’re not there yet on herd immunity, so good to keep up that very simple mitigation measure. It’s not hard. Anyone losing their shit over it is a stupid pussy who desperately needs to get laid or find a hobby or something.

Definitely a recalibration of behavior in general post vax. I mean, that’s the whole point, right? Agree that focusing on the minute number of breakthrough transmissions/cases was a horrible angle to take. Emphasis should be on virtually 100 percent effectiveness against severe illness/hospitalization. I think this approach is changing a little bit but the damage is likely done as far as making people ask “then what’s the point?”

To the extent that anyone is still totally isolating or whatever after being fully vaccinated, they’re also a stupid pussy. You might as well isolate forever. Anecdotally, my circle is mostly the kind of young liberals the aggy on here like to make of and that’s not the case with anyone. So I’d love to see some polling on hire widespread this is among fully vaccinated people. I acknowledge it exists because you do see it discussed or pushed in the media.

[mchookem 16220]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

He’s a definite liberal and I agree with him very seldomly but he’s intellectually honest and I appreciate him.  No problems with that dude from my POV 

being a liberal and 'totes the lefts narrative' are two different things. 

i agree with your assessment and that's what i was inferring - to me he is a practical and reasoned thinker. most importantly (for me) he is not a hypocritic ('intellectually honest' as you say), which is what often puts him at odds with some on the left. he has described himself as libertarian in the past, but there's no doubt in recent years his positions have aligned more with progressives. that is still not the same as 'totes the lefts narrative'.

Edited April 17, 2021 by mchookem

[Enchubben 5509]

37 minutes ago, XYZ said:

What about Canada? Some of us don’t use instagram.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2021/4/16/1_5390805.html

Police now have ability to pull over/question people/ask for address and reasons for leaving place of residence. Can be ticketed for non compliance.

Also people from Quebec and Manitoba no longer permitted in Ontario unless for essential purpose.

Edited April 17, 2021 by Enchubben

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Lolol.

Fuck that’d suck. In the meanwhile our leftist of left states are starting to fill stadiums. They’re gonna flood our borders

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

The old Dp

[Wulaw Horn 18981]

36 minutes ago, mchookem said:

being a liberal and 'totes the lefts narrative' are two different things. 

i agree with your assessment and that's what i was inferring - to me he is a practical and reasoned thinker. most importantly (for me) he is not a hypocritic ('intellectually honest' as you say), which is what often puts him at odds with some on the left. he has described himself as libertarian in the past, but there's no doubt in recent years his positions have aligned more with progressives. that is still not the same as 'totes the lefts narrative'.

Agreed completely. I didn’t say totes the lefts narrative bc I don’t believe you can be intellectually honest and do that (or the rights narrative- the world doesn’t work that way), and I don’t disagree with your push back on that term. I don’t think the person who used that term likely thought it out at all. 
 

[Wulaw Horn 18981]

54 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Fully vaccinated. Still throw a mask on when running into the store or if we go to an restaurant or whatever. For one, most places still require it, and in general we’re not there yet on herd immunity, so good to keep up that very simple mitigation measure. It’s not hard. Anyone losing their shit over it is a stupid pussy who desperately needs to get laid or find a hobby or something.

Definitely a recalibration of behavior in general post vax. I mean, that’s the whole point, right? Agree that focusing on the minute number of breakthrough transmissions/cases was a horrible angle to take. Emphasis should be on virtually 100 percent effectiveness against severe illness/hospitalization. I think this approach is changing a little bit but the damage is likely done as far as making people ask “then what’s the point?”

To the extent that anyone is still totally isolating or whatever after being fully vaccinated, they’re also a stupid pussy. You might as well isolate forever. Anecdotally, my circle is mostly the kind of young liberals the aggy on here like to make of and that’s not the case with anyone. So I’d love to see some polling on hire widespread this is among fully vaccinated people. I acknowledge it exists because you do see it discussed or pushed in the media.

I repped you bc I agree with just about everything you wrote on here but would push back a bit about the mask thing. We should all, when fully vaxed, stop wearing them as we are basically bulletproof. I get not wanting to get others wound up and some businesses requiring it, and I will throw a mask on too in places I know it will cause consternation not to do so,  but continuing to comply with insanity indefinitely isn’t helpful to our country. You are vaxed. You should get to Libe like normal. It should encourage others to do the same. Morons who don’t get vaxed can FAFO. We shouldn’t curtail our freedoms to those dimwits not vaxing. I’d say Memorial Day based upon how things are going should be about the end of this shit. Won’t happen that quick but it damn well better not be around well into the summer. 

[Okie State 3788]

I'll continue to wear them when a business asks me to because I believe that is their right. I'd expect more and more businesses to lift their mask requirements come Summer though. That's assuming something unforseen doesn't happen of course.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

Oh and don’t bother looking for their bill of rights on the Canadian government page, as that has been deleted/taken down.

Probably just a coincidence though, probably...

Those Canadians are commies, coming for your guns, eh!

[Wulaw Horn 18981]

5 minutes ago, Okie State said:

I'll continue to wear them when a business asks me to because I believe that is their right. I'd expect more and more businesses to lift their mask requirements come Summer though. That's assuming something unforseen doesn't happen of course.

Sure. If a business goes well into the summer requiring masks I don’t see myself being a customer of that business, but it’s certainly their right and I will abide by that without causing a fuss. From what I can tell it’s mostly all “we strongly encourage” as opposed to you absolutely must. 

[Okie State 3788]

Sure. If a business goes well into the summer requiring masks I don’t see myself being a customer of that business, but it’s certainly their right and I will abide by that without causing a fuss. From what I can tell it’s mostly all “we strongly encourage” as opposed to you absolutely must. 

Fair enough. I think that's what people should do in that situation. And by requirements I guess I mean if they have a sign encouraging me to wear it I will.

We'll see how long it drags out. I'm fully against masks forever and do not agree that it should be accepted as a new normal. It's one thing if our culture adopts wearing a mask if you're not feeling well and need to be out in public. It's completely different to wear them anytime you are around other people.

[XYZ 2154]

Somebody correct me if I got this wrong, but for unincorporated areas of Travis County, the face covering order expired on April 15, and for Austin it expires on May 18. Is this correct?