Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[Anastasis 23395]

Some people literally have broken brains.  It's gonna take everybody some time to adjust and transition through re-entry, especially folks that have really effected significant behavior change during the pandemic.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/health/masks-cdc-rules.html? 

Mask On or Off? Life Is Getting Back to Normal, and We’re Rusty.

After the C.D.C. issued new guidelines, people are figuring out how to proceed. Some want to keep their face coverings on: “It saves me having to put on sunscreen.”

...

Masks have also become so much more than mere barrier between germs and lungs. They can keep that too-chatty neighbor at bay or help the introvert hide in plain sight. And vanity? Goodbye to that.

“It saves me having to put on sunscreen and wear lipstick,” said Sara J. Becker, an associate professor at the Brown University School of Public Health.

She recently had an awkward transitional moment when she, her husband and two children went to an outdoor fire pit with vaccinated neighbors.

“Someone offered me their hand, and I gave my elbow,” Dr. Becker said. She was “not quite ready for handshakes or hugs,” she explained, though “pre-Covid, I was definitely a hugger.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Anastasis

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Yay, Oregon is closed again.
https://www.kptv.com/news/gov-brown-orders-15-oregon-counties-into-extreme-risk-level-starting-friday/article_c332bb3a-a789-11eb-aa6e-275704f01c64.html
Last Friday, Brown said Oregon was experiencing a “fourth surge” of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations were nearing 300 patients statewide.
Brown said new COVID-19 variants are widespread and if she doesn’t act now, hospital systems and healthcare workers will be stretched to their limits treating these severe cases.

Lulz. Sucks to suck

[washparkhorn 9935]

2 hours ago, MajorMajor said:

Nothing to see here...

How does exponential growth work again?

 

1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

that's their 3rd surge

Fourth - technically. The first wave is the initial wave (albeit it was small in comparison to later wave). The West Coast had some the first cases in the US (with NY/Northeast). The west coast shutdown to prevent spread eastward and it worked - for the most part.

Get the vaccines in arms. 

[DaysOff 7851]

Some people literally have broken brains.  It's gonna take everybody some time to adjust and transition through re-entry, especially folks that have really effected significant behavior change during the pandemic.  
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/health/masks-cdc-rules.html? 
Mask On or Off? Life Is Getting Back to Normal, and We’re Rusty.
After the C.D.C. issued new guidelines, people are figuring out how to proceed. Some want to keep their face coverings on: “It saves me having to put on sunscreen.”
...
Masks have also become so much more than mere barrier between germs and lungs. They can keep that too-chatty neighbor at bay or help the introvert hide in plain sight. And vanity? Goodbye to that.
“It saves me having to put on sunscreen and wear lipstick,” said Sara J. Becker, an associate professor at the Brown University School of Public Health.
She recently had an awkward transitional moment when she, her husband and two children went to an outdoor fire pit with vaccinated neighbors.
“Someone offered me their hand, and I gave my elbow,” Dr. Becker said. She was “not quite ready for handshakes or hugs,” she explained, though “pre-Covid, I was definitely a hugger.”
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

All that sounds lovely. If I never have to shake another man's hand. Chef's kiss.

I don't know you, but may I offer you one billion bacteria?

[Wulaw Horn 18980]

6 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Yay, Oregon is closed again.

https://www.kptv.com/news/gov-brown-orders-15-oregon-counties-into-extreme-risk-level-starting-friday/article_c332bb3a-a789-11eb-aa6e-275704f01c64.html

Last Friday, Brown said Oregon was experiencing a “fourth surge” of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations were nearing 300 patients statewide.

Brown said new COVID-19 variants are widespread and if she doesn’t act now, hospital systems and healthcare workers will be stretched to their limits treating these severe cases.

That’s got to be unadulterated bullshit right?  What’s the Oregon hospital capacity that 300 admits is straining it?  
they have like 8 fucking electoral votes this isn’t a state with a population the size of North Dakota, right?  
She was the one I first remember back in spring of 20 saying the right time to consider opening was after no Covid deaths for a week oR something stupid like that. I assume y’all are ok with this and ready to shut down again?  Other than Portland actions against police? 

[Neonmoon 38127]

Can we also keep the rule where people stay the fuck away at the grocery store? You’ll get your turn Leann, calm the fuck down. There’s enough parsley for everyone. 
 

[Deej 76565]

33 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

All that sounds lovely. If I never have to shake another man's hand. Chef's kiss.

I don't know you, but may I offer you one billion bacteria?

Fewer butterfaces, too. 

[Anastasis 23395]

35 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

All that sounds lovely. If I never have to shake another man's hand. Chef's kiss.

I don't know you, but may I offer you one billion bacteria?

Don't lie. You really miss having to wear lipstick too. 

[mdmost 42865]

26 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Can we also keep the rule where people stay the fuck away at the grocery store? You’ll get your turn Leann, calm the fuck down. There’s enough parsley for everyone. 
 

I only run in the store if we're in a pinch. Otherwise, we take full advantage of curbside. If I never have to set foot inside a grocery store again, I'll be a happy man. 

[dcar00 14035]

I'm good with handshakes but I'm afraid CDC is going to recommend bowing forever on end.

I do need to get into the craft hand sanitizer business though.

[dcar00 14035]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Can we also keep the rule where people stay the fuck away at the grocery store? You’ll get your turn Leann, calm the fuck down. There’s enough parsley for everyone. 
 

Big upside.  this is definitely the end of the "close talkers".  people wont have any problem backing up and not appearing rude

[GRHorn 105]

 

Edited May 2, 2021 by GRHorn

[GRHorn 105]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

I only run in the store if we're in a pinch. Otherwise, we take full advantage of curbside. If I never have to set foot inside a grocery store again, I'll be a happy man. 

 

4 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Some people literally have broken brains.  It's gonna take everybody some time to adjust and transition through re-entry, especially folks that have really effected significant behavior change during the pandemic.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/health/masks-cdc-rules.html? 

Mask On or Off? Life Is Getting Back to Normal, and We’re Rusty.

After the C.D.C. issued new guidelines, people are figuring out how to proceed. Some want to keep their face coverings on: “It saves me having to put on sunscreen.”

...

Masks have also become so much more than mere barrier between germs and lungs. They can keep that too-chatty neighbor at bay or help the introvert hide in plain sight. And vanity? Goodbye to that.

“It saves me having to put on sunscreen and wear lipstick,” said Sara J. Becker, an associate professor at the Brown University School of Public Health.

She recently had an awkward transitional moment when she, her husband and two children went to an outdoor fire pit with vaccinated neighbors.

“Someone offered me their hand, and I gave my elbow,” Dr. Becker said. She was “not quite ready for handshakes or hugs,” she explained, though “pre-Covid, I was definitely a hugger.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This kind of general behavior plays into the hands of socially adept DT posters. Humans social animals and prefer to interact with people. Better things are going to happen for those getting back to real life. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

39 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

 

 

This kind of general behavior plays into the hands of socially adept DT posters. Humans social animals and prefer to interact with people. Better things are going to happen for those getting back to real life. 

Weird post. Socially adept DT posters? Human social animals? 
 

English. Do you speak it? Too much vodka tonight?

[mdmost 42865]

Maybe he's the one with the broken brain that Anastasis was mentioning.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Gave up curbside at the beginning of the pandemic. Too much screwed up shit with my orders. And they’ll give you milk/eggs with sell by dates within a few days


I now try to go around 845-9 at night. Experience is much better and I wonder why I didn’t go late at night pre covid

[mdmost 42865]

Never have any issues with curbside outside of items being substituted with things I don't want. It shaves off 30 minutes a week plus I don't have to deal with morons inside a grocery store. I feel dumb for not switching to this sooner. 

Edited May 2, 2021 by mdmost

[GRHorn 105]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Weird post. Socially adept DT posters? Human social animals? 
 

English. Do you speak it? Too much vodka tonight?

Wut up Jimmy Northam

[XYZ 2154]

I guess you can put me in the category of people who liked how life was pre-covid just fine. Going inside the grocery store, shaking someone’s hand, not wearing masks, etc. Looking forward to getting back to how things used to be. Fuck social distancing.

[Anastasis 23395]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Maybe he's the one with the broken brain that Anastasis was mentioning.

That was a reference to the public health professor that wanted to keep wearing a mask so she didn’t have to wear lipstick, but admittedly, you can just throw a rock these days. 

[atomheartbevo 89425]

20 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

Note: India is just getting its second wave. 

An insane fucking second wave.

A former co-worker and his wife are from India, living here in Austin, and the wife's sister is the only one still in India with her parents.  Her dad went into the hospital, and she doesn't even know if he's alive, but is assuming he is not.  Her mom died at home yesterday, and her sister couldn't get anybody to get the body to wherever there are pyres/whatever, and so she was FaceTiming with my friend's wife, and her mom's body is just laid out in the living room in the background of the FaceTime chat, and friend's wife was just melting down.

And almost all of the close relatives of both the friend and his wife either have it, or recently had it.

Friend said they were claiming 350,000 new cases a day, but he swears up and down that it's got to be pushing a million actual new cases, because it's getting now to the point where they only know a handful of people who haven't had it or currently have it.

Sounds like some real apocalyptic shit going on.  

 

[Rockwell Torrey 1277]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

An insane fucking second wave.

A former co-worker and his wife are from India, living here in Austin, and the wife's sister is the only one still in India with her parents.  Her dad went into the hospital, and she doesn't even know if he's alive, but is assuming he is not.  Her mom died at home yesterday, and her sister couldn't get anybody to get the body to wherever there are pyres/whatever, and so she was FaceTiming with my friend's wife, and her mom's body is just laid out in the living room in the background of the FaceTime chat, and friend's wife was just melting down.

And almost all of the close relatives of both the friend and his wife either have it, or recently had it.

Friend said they were claiming 350,000 new cases a day, but he swears up and down that it's got to be pushing a million actual new cases, because it's getting now to the point where they only know a handful of people who haven't had it or currently have it.

Sounds like some real apocalyptic shit going on.  

 

Damn.  Tragic.

[GRHorn 105]

One positive 

[DaysOff 7851]

I guess there's a point you're trying to make.

[GRHorn 105]

2 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

I guess there's a point you're trying to make.

The pandemic forced some parents to realize their day to day presence has been lacking for their kids and they’ve adjusted their lifestyle. That’s good. 

[Don Johnson 4745]

13 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

That’s got to be unadulterated bullshit right?  What’s the Oregon hospital capacity that 300 admits is straining it?  
they have like 8 fucking electoral votes this isn’t a state with a population the size of North Dakota, right?  
She was the one I first remember back in spring of 20 saying the right time to consider opening was after no Covid deaths for a week oR something stupid like that. I assume y’all are ok with this and ready to shut down again?  Other than Portland actions against police? 

This is the state that was making high school track athletes wear masks during races. Until an athlete collapsed from a lack of oxygen. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/highschoolsports/2021/04/mask-rules-revised-for-oregon-high-school-runners-other-noncontact-outdoor-sports.html%3foutputType=amp

[XYZ 2154]

What’s happening in India is the stuff of nightmares, and we collectively are partly to blame.

[GRHorn 105]

“At best, it makes public health measures seem performative, rather than science based. At worst, it calls vaccine efficacy into question.”

well put

 

[Captainant 27450]

Why do y'all get so offended by someone wearing a facemask? Y'all act like it's some form of oppression

[Don Johnson 4745]

7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Why do y'all get so offended by someone wearing a facemask? Y'all act like it's some form of oppression

It implies that the most most public figure in the country doesn’t trust the vaccine to work. At a time when the most important thing is convincing the public to take the vaccine because it works. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

3 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

It implies that the most most public figure in the country doesn’t trust the vaccine to work. At a time when the most important thing is convincing the public to take the vaccine because it works. 

Um...no it doesn’t 

[Don Johnson 4745]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

Um...no it doesn’t 

Sure it does. The CDC says he doesn’t need to and he evidently feels he does. 

[Captainant 27450]

2 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

It implies that the most most public figure in the country doesn’t trust the vaccine to work. At a time when the most important thing is convincing the public to take the vaccine because it works. 

It's using every tool that we have to fight the spread of COVID. There's data and evidence to show that you still have an outside chance to carry COVID asymptomatically even with a vaccine. 

Sorry there's so many dumb fucks in our country that will latch onto any possible reason to not get vaccinated? Maybe that's something that another political body could help with, since they are disproportionately represented in that demographic. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

4 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

Sure it does. The CDC says he doesn’t need to and he evidently feels he does. 

Sweet baby Christ. Because he is vaccinated he doesn’t need to wear a mask outdoors or indoors with other vaccinated people according to the CDC guidelines. That is true. HOWEVER. (This is where new information comes in that makes the previous simple idea a bit more complicated). He is the leader of the free world in a ongoing pandemic. Through studies, masks have proven to slow the spread of droplets and thus the virus. He is wearing a mask to set a good example for the simple rubes at home and abroad.  

Now I agree, a message of I got vaccinated, I don’t have to wear a mask would be effective IF the assholes who don’t want to wear a mask would get vaccinated or participate in a vaccine passport program that could prove who the anti-vaxx assholes are, but we don’t live in that world. Therefore, we have to stick with the message of west a mask, reduce the spread, please get vaccinated. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's using every tool that we have to fight the spread of COVID. There's data and evidence to show that you still have an outside chance to carry COVID asymptomatically even with a vaccine. 

Sorry there's so many dumb fucks in our country that will latch onto any possible reason to not get vaccinated? Maybe that's something that another political body could help with, since they are disproportionately represented in that demographic. 

I don’t think this is true? Is it?

[MissingInAction 24815]

Had to show my vaccine card before my GP would pull a splinter out of my ass. 

/notnowthis

[phdhorn 6224]

7 hours ago, Anastasis said:

That was a reference to the public health professor that wanted to keep wearing a mask so she didn’t have to wear lipstick, but admittedly, you can just throw a rock these days. 

I looked her up expecting to see what you'd expect with the academic types.

But she's not half-bad, considering the depth of the pit her category entails.



I mean, it could have turned out a lot more horrific.

[Captainant 27450]

15 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

I don’t think this is true? Is it?

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/vaccines-faq

Do I still need to wear a mask and practice physical distancing after I am vaccinated?

Yes. Until we substantially reduce community transmission of SARS-CoV-2, and see hospitalizations and deaths dramatically decrease, we still need to wear masks and practice physical distancing even after vaccination. The vaccine is not 100% effective and we still do not know if someone who was vaccinated can develop asymptomatic infection and transmit the virus. Although the phase 3 clinical trials were designed to determine whether vaccinated individuals are protected against disease, it will also be important to understand whether vaccinated individuals are less likely to transmit the virus. This is likely but not ensured. If a vaccine not only protects against disease but reduces transmission, and continues to do so for many years, we are likely to reach a state of herd protection when masks and physical distancing will no longer be required. Herd protection is achieved when a sufficient proportion of the population is made non-infectious through vaccination or natural infection so that the likelihood of an infectious individual transmitting to a susceptible individual is very low.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Captainant

[Armybrat 40737]

11 hours ago, XYZ said:

I guess you can put me in the category of people who liked how life was pre-covid just fine. Going inside the grocery store, shaking someone’s hand, not wearing masks, etc. Looking forward to getting back to how things used to be. Fuck social distancing.

I’m not a toucher/hugger/schmoozer, so HEB curbside is the best thing since internet porn.

We’ve never had a problem with getting near-expired milk & eggs, plus we do the “no substitutions” option. The only downside has been some misses with produce, so for cantaloupe & other fruit the wife walks into Sprouts to hand pick what she wants.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Armybrat

[Message Board User 12389]

JFC.  White House already hedging on all schools reopening.

 

[Dahobbs 17447]

17 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

JFC.  White House already hedging on all schools reopening.

 

That seems like an appropriately cautious statement. If things continue like that are, we are good to go. If a new and aggressive variant arises, we may have to reevaluate. I'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with that. 

[Telegraph_it 3354]

20 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

JFC.  White House already hedging on all schools reopening.

 

Fuck that. NYT has done great reporting on the harm being done to kids who are remote learning. Open the schools up. 

[Message Board User 12389]

13 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Fuck that. NYT has done great reporting on the harm being done to kids who are remote learning. Open the schools up. 

I also don't know of any school district whose school year opens in September.

[Message Board User 12389]

I guess I'm not sure which I'm more impressed with - how wrong he is (and has been), or the certainty.

 

[lmao 178]

2 hours ago, Captainant said:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/vaccines-faq

Do I still need to wear a mask and practice physical distancing after I am vaccinated?

Yes. Until we substantially reduce community transmission of SARS-CoV-2, and see hospitalizations and deaths dramatically decrease, we still need to wear masks and practice physical distancing even after vaccination. The vaccine is not 100% effective and we still do not know if someone who was vaccinated can develop asymptomatic infection and transmit the virus. Although the phase 3 clinical trials were designed to determine whether vaccinated individuals are protected against disease, it will also be important to understand whether vaccinated individuals are less likely to transmit the virus. This is likely but not ensured. If a vaccine not only protects against disease but reduces transmission, and continues to do so for many years, we are likely to reach a state of herd protection when masks and physical distancing will no longer be required. Herd protection is achieved when a sufficient proportion of the population is made non-infectious through vaccination or natural infection so that the likelihood of an infectious individual transmitting to a susceptible individual is very low.

Isn't it like 94% effective, as or more than the MMR & smallpox vaccine?

[GRHorn 105]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Sweet baby Christ. Because he is vaccinated he doesn’t need to wear a mask outdoors or indoors with other vaccinated people according to the CDC guidelines. That is true. HOWEVER. (This is where new information comes in that makes the previous simple idea a bit more complicated). He is the leader of the free world in a ongoing pandemic. Through studies, masks have proven to slow the spread of droplets and thus the virus. He is wearing a mask to set a good example for the simple rubes at home and abroad.  

 

I think one contributing factor to this mask show he’s putting on, is that he and his team are being extremely cautious due to the his age and physical frailty. They want his risk of contracting it to be as close to zero as possible.

[Enchubben 5509]

 

4 hours ago, XYZ said:

What’s happening in India is the stuff of nightmares, and China is to blame.

Fify

[washparkhorn 9935]

13 hours ago, XYZ said:

I guess you can put me in the category of people who liked how life was pre-covid just fine. Going inside the grocery store, shaking someone’s hand, not wearing masks, etc. Looking forward to getting back to how things used to be. Fuck social distancing.

Close Talkers United™ 

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-08/ciot-cnf082809.php

[washparkhorn 9935]

37 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

What’s happening in India is the stuff of nightmares, and China is to blame.

Fify

Modi, not China.

 

[bolverk 29399]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

I think one contributing factor to this mask show he’s putting on, is that he and his team are being extremely cautious due to the his age and physical frailty. They want his risk of contracting it to be as close to zero as possible.

I guess you liked the "mask show" put on by the last president better.