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Against my better judgment and several beers deep, I have taken you up on this, potentially ending my streak of totally worthless posts. I have done 3 and 7 day averages only on the Worldometer data. 

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Just try and imagine GreenspointTexas being the person to intubate you as you fight for your life against COVID-19. You’re laying there gasping for air while he chastises you for all the things you li

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Virtue signalers are in a pickle. If you wear a mask it could signal to others that you haven't been vaccinated, but it could also signal to others you don't care. That's a tough one.

I take the same approach, and deal with same conundrum, with regard to wearing pants.

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1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

 

 

If we're going to rightfully criticize Fox, OAN, Newsmax, the Daily Wire, Wall Street Journal, etc., etc., etc. for the heavily biased bullshit that they've spewed for over a year, then we've got to do a little better than something called Raw Story who is apparently sponsored by the ACLU and whose front page reads like the thread titles in CR.

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8 minutes ago, DaysOff said:


How do you prove you're vaccinated? Is there like a passport or something?

The satellites scan the microchip that was injected into your body. You don't need to do anything. 

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2 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

You don't prove it.   We are fast approaching the time where you either are, or you're ok fucking around and finding out.

And, as with everything else in this country, the people most in need of finding out, won't. Because stupid always prevails.

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9 minutes ago, DaysOff said:


How do you prove you're vaccinated? Is there like a passport or something?

Give Google a day or two and they'll come out with the I'm Safe app: just open the app, ask your phone if you're vaccinated, and Google will pop up the endless list of times you've written "I'm double vaxxed, baby!" in every text media form. 

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21 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

This is the last “incentive” the govt has towards getting the unvaxxed a shot. 
 

“hey, look! If you get the vaccine, u never have to wear a mask!”

 

im pretty sure most joe six packs hate wearing masks more than they hate not getting the shot

Except that they've already not been wearing a mask for months, shot or no shot, except where private businesses mandate them.

Basically what Nate Silver has been saying. At this point, the number of  unvaccinated adults who are still following the CDCs guidelines is, like, 86 people nationwide. 

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3 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

From June 1 to July 31, 2020, 

Talk about cherry picking your stats for a headline. JFC...

 

2 hours ago, gmr548 said:


Yeah that’s pretty bad. There’s plenty of shitposting on here cherry picking data or using misinformation to make Republicans look good. This is the equal and opposite reaction.

There's also misrepresentation of the article itself by one weasely poster. The actual study that the article is referencing analyzes data over the entire year of 2020 up to its date of publication, but it's specifically mentioning that summer as a local maxima in the data and an inflection point worth analyzing.

Whodathunkit that they'd just find something that's vague enough to discredit the greater message and shitpost about it to move past it before anyone actually reads the articles?

edit: abstract from the study cheese is saying "only looked at june - july data"

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Introduction

The response to the COVID-19 pandemic became increasingly politicized in the U.S., and the political affiliation of state leaders may contribute to policies affecting the spread of the disease. This study examines the differences in COVID-19 infection, death, and testing by governor party affiliation across the 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.

Methods

A longitudinal analysis was conducted in December 2020 examining COVID-19 incidence, death, testing, and test positivity rates from March 15, 2020 through December 15, 2020. A Bayesian negative binomial model was fit to estimate the daily risk ratios and posterior intervals comparing rates by gubernatorial party affiliation. The analyses adjusted for state population density, rurality, Census region, age, race, ethnicity, poverty, number of physicians, obesity, cardiovascular disease, asthma, smoking, and presidential voting in 2020.

Results

From March 2020 to early June 2020, Republican-led states had lower COVID-19 incidence rates than Democratic-led states. On June 3, 2020, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had a higher incidence (risk ratio=1.10, 95% posterior interval=1.01, 1.18). This trend persisted through early December 2020. For death rates, Republican-led states had lower rates early in the pandemic but higher rates from July 4, 2020 (risk ratio=1.18, 95% posterior interval=1.02, 1.31) through mid-December 2020. Republican-led states had higher test positivity rates starting on May 30, 2020 (risk ratio=1.70, 95% posterior interval=1.66, 1.73) and lower testing rates by September 30, 2020 (risk ratio=0.95, 95% posterior interval=0.90, 0.98).

Conclusions

Gubernatorial party affiliation may drive policy decisions that impact COVID-19 infections and deaths across the U.S. Future policy decisions should be guided by public health considerations rather than by political ideology.

edit2: not to put too fine a point on it, but here's a picture if you're a tl:dr kinda person

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17 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Results

From March 2020 to early June 2020, Republican-led states had lower COVID-19 incidence rates than Democratic-led states. On June 3, 2020, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had a higher incidence (risk ratio=1.10, 95% posterior interval=1.01, 1.18). This trend persisted through early December 2020. For death rates, Republican-led states had lower rates early in the pandemic but higher rates from July 4, 2020 (risk ratio=1.18, 95% posterior interval=1.02, 1.31) through mid-December 2020. Republican-led states had higher test positivity rates starting on May 30, 2020 (risk ratio=1.70, 95% posterior interval=1.66, 1.73) and lower testing rates by September 30, 2020 (risk ratio=0.95, 95% posterior interval=0.90, 0.98).

If only the Democratic states had complied with Mask Mandates, lockdowns, etc early on, it wouldn't have spread. Sad.

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1 minute ago, Cheeseweasel said:

If only the Democratic states had complied with Mask Mandates, lockdowns, etc early on, it wouldn't have spread. Sad.

only makes it more tragic when the red states have higher death rates in December during the third wave than blue states in late April during the first wave.

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2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

speaking of baseball.   8 yankees testing positive even though fully vaxed, and one was vaxed and had covid before...strange and, not good Bob.

Several of my coworkers who have vaccinated family in India have said that they're testing positive for COVID. No major illness, but they are getting sick with the loss of smell and everything. A cousin of mine who previously had it and is vaccinated just popped positive today, but was asymptomatic

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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

Several of my coworkers who have vaccinated family in India have said that they're testing positive for COVID. No major illness, but they are getting sick with the loss of smell and everything. A cousin of mine who previously had it and is vaccinated just popped positive today, but was asymptomatic

hmmm, how did the cousin pop positive if asymptomatic?

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 Damn I’m happy this is finally happening.  It’s too bad vaccination hesitancy is slowing things down but pretty awesome to see the mandates ending.

 

 The only thing that sucks is that in person meetings where i I have to wear pants are going to start again.  That and traffic and ugly people not wearing masks.

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1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

hmmm, how did the cousin pop positive if asymptomatic?

Her office building has a regular testing requirement to continue coming in in-person, so she's been getting a test every week for the last few months now since getting vaxxed

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6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Her office building has a regular testing requirement to continue coming in in-person, so she's been getting a test every week for the last few months now since getting vaxxed

did she have multiple positives? 

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Looks like the red states flattened the curve so hospitals early on would not be overrun.  And bought time so there would not be shortages of ICU beds, therapeutics and PPE.  Some day we can look back and really study it.  Death rates.  Job losses from shutdowns.  And fairly judge which states managed COVID the best. Right now we are still in the fog of war.

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36 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

speaking of baseball.   8 yankees testing positive even though fully vaxed, and one was vaxed and had covid before...strange and, not good Bob.

Yeah.  That sucks.  Almost all asymptomatic, received JNJ in early April. 

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17 minutes ago, Captainant said:

she's getting a second test tomorrow to confirm, but was more happy about getting to WFH again lol. Will keep yall posted

I see a business opportunity.  small tube to be able to sprinkle just enough covid to get you a positive test so keep WFH.  "karen, has had covid 20 times this year, isn't that crazy?"

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