Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[MNLonghornFUKM 8985]

Should we take bets on where the first death will be outside China? 

Florida -1200

[Pato del Muerto 53604]

8 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

That’s a good idea. Pecan shot. 

Sustainable 

[Surly Bevo 25779]

41 minutes ago, Somnio said:

I wont post a link because its from a "fake news" site which is a guilty pleasure of mine, but this guy "sounds" like he knows what he's talking about.

If correct, the world is going to change, and much quicker than anyone could ever expect.

The next few days should be telling.

Eh there isn't anything interesting or compelling if this is characterized as "an event we need to keep our eye on but isn't likely to be catastrophic"....people who talk like that get no clicks.  

Sushihorn always sounds like he knows what he is talking about....just saying.

Edited February 1, 2020 by Surly Bevo

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13438]

26 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Should we take bets on where the first death will be outside China? 

If it’s me, I donate my winnings to Surly.

[Telegraph_it 3383]

Someone has a sense of humor. Four horseman buses carrying evacuees from Wuhan. 
 

[Blotto 24045]

driver opting for the "fuck the masks" approach

[BrickHorn 18451]

19 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Someone has a sense of humor. Four horseman buses carrying evacuees from Wuhan. 
 

 

Woooooooooooo(han)!

[XYZ 2154]

1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

Sushihorn always sounds like he knows what he is talking about....just saying.

What does sushihorn have to do with this?

[Surly Bevo 25779]

Just now, XYZ said:

What does sushihorn have to do with this?

In response to the comment that "this guy sounds like he know's what he is talking about"

[Hagbard Celine 11296]

21 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

Soooooo...I'm not going to take the word of a blue check, the supposed paper hasn't been peer reviewed, and of course any phony can twitter troll some panic.  But I'll just leave this here

whether peer reviewed or not here's their conclusion:

"Taken together, our findings suggest unconventional evolution of 2019-nCoV that warrants further investigation."

Duh.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/24/virus-hit-wuhan-has-two-laboratories-linked-chines/

And how did this malign fiesta get underway?

search on "wuhan corona snakes bats".

Bats hang out near biowarfare sites.

Snakes eat bats.

Chinese eat snakes.

Live snakes.

Let's review:

DON'T EAT BATS.

DON'T EAT SNAKES.

DON'T EAT LIVE SNAKES.

DON'T EAT LIVE SNAKES THAT HAVE EATEN BATS.

Now, let's extend.

STOP EATING WILDLIFE.

KILL YOUR FOOD.

COOK YOUR FOOD.

DON'T EAT WILDLIFE.

THAT INCLUDES SNAKES AND BATS.

[Neonmoon 38130]

8th confirmed case in US

Boston

[InkaUtexas 26970]

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

I got a freezer full of venison, a keg, a bunch of booze, a generator, and guns.  Let's do this. 

Ok Mr. Swanson, heading to your place. 

[Colonel Sanders 1406]

3 hours ago, Somnio said:

I think the gist is that many are downplaying its significance because the death rate isnt absurdly high.

But it appears more contagious, and much more serious than the flu.  And the huge numbers of hospitalizations, even if they recover are going to overwhelm our health care system.

I'm with you on this one.  I think life is going to fundamentally change over the next year.  Eventually,  it will get back to normal,  but it's going to be a bumpy ride.  I think we'd probably do a little better than the Chinese, but what happens when this spreads in Pakistan or Bangladesh or one of the other shithole countries?  Some governments are probably going to fail.

[InkaUtexas 26970]

22 minutes ago, Colonel Sanders said:

I'm with you on this one.  I think life is going to fundamentally change over the next year.  Eventually,  it will get back to normal,  but it's going to be a bumpy ride.  I think we'd probably do a little better than the Chinese, but what happens when this spreads in Pakistan or Bangladesh or one of the other shithole countries?  Some governments are probably going to fail.

Refugee Camps....... Or Dubai. 

[Deej 77893]

37 minutes ago, Colonel Sanders said:

I'm with you on this one.  I think life is going to fundamentally change over the next year.  Eventually,  it will get back to normal,  but it's going to be a bumpy ride.  I think we'd probably do a little better than the Chinese, but what happens when this spreads in Pakistan or Bangladesh or one of the other shithole countries?  Some governments are probably going to fail.

Nuke 'em from orbit?

[Telegraph_it 3383]

If we get quarantined sooner do we get to pick which base we go to? 

[Helobious 9826]

As an SA resident, it’s heartwarming to see lackland on that list. Is there something special about those bases? I don’t understand why they wouldn’t pick bases in remote areas of the country. 

[Bigbend1812 13063]

1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

whether peer reviewed or not here's their conclusion:

"Taken together, our findings suggest unconventional evolution of 2019-nCoV that warrants further investigation."

Duh.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/24/virus-hit-wuhan-has-two-laboratories-linked-chines/

And how did this malign fiesta get underway?

search on "wuhan corona snakes bats".

Bats hang out near biowarfare sites.

Snakes eat bats.

Chinese eat snakes.

Live snakes.

Let's review:

DON'T EAT BATS.

DON'T EAT SNAKES.

DON'T EAT LIVE SNAKES.

DON'T EAT LIVE SNAKES THAT HAVE EATEN BATS.

Now, let's extend.

STOP EATING WILDLIFE.

KILL YOUR FOOD.

COOK YOUR FOOD.

DON'T EAT WILDLIFE.

THAT INCLUDES SNAKES AND BATS.

[atomheartbevo 90682]

1 hour ago, Colonel Sanders said:

I'm with you on this one.  I think life is going to fundamentally change over the next year.  Eventually,  it will get back to normal,  but it's going to be a bumpy ride.  I think we'd probably do a little better than the Chinese, but what happens when this spreads in Pakistan or Bangladesh or one of the other shithole countries?  Some governments are probably going to fail.

Hopefully no governments collapse and nukes get loose.  

[Deej 77893]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Hopefully no governments collapse and nukes get loose.  

 

[atomheartbevo 90682]

60% of confirmed cases in Hubei province.  But 96% of the confirmed deaths are from there.   Obviously the stats are going to be slightly skewed - apparently it was a lot of old fuckers directly working in the bat soup market, but it’s interesting.   Of course, that province saw 1,300+ new cases yesterday.   Again, everything goes back to the testing and how much is happening.  

[atomheartbevo 90682]

12 minutes ago, Helobious said:

As an SA resident, it’s heartwarming to see lackland on that list. Is there something special about those bases? I don’t understand why they wouldn’t pick bases in remote areas of the country. 

The AF base and Air Station have large hangers (lots of room for quarantine) and are right there in California.  

Fort Carson and Lackland have training facilities (barracks, chow halls, etc.) that can easily house thousands for lengthy periods of time   

Not surprising at all.  

[GopherRock 1778]

17 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

11,950 confirmed 

259 dead

 

One of the biggest problems of this is that nobody believes the numbers that the CPC is putting out.  

[Colonel Sanders 1406]

17 minutes ago, GopherRock said:

One of the biggest problems of this is that nobody believes the numbers that the CPC is putting out.  

Agreed, but at this point do they even care if they report a new case or a death?  I doubt they're even trying to hide shit anymore,  it's probably just easier to take a body to the morgue and cremate it, that go through whatever extra steps it takes to test and report. 

[RayDog 682]

2 hours ago, Colonel Sanders said:

I'm with you on this one.  I think life is going to fundamentally change over the next year.  Eventually,  it will get back to normal,  but it's going to be a bumpy ride.  I think we'd probably do a little better than the Chinese, but what happens when this spreads in Pakistan or Bangladesh or one of the other shithole countries?  Some governments are probably going to fail.

My girlfriend has the flu and one of my short-time girlfriends has it too, and now I have a scratchy throat so I have been thinking about this. Angeles has around 100 bars with 20 to 200 girls and Manila is similar. The place is full of Chinese and Korean tourists, but also Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians, Bangladeshies, Arabs from various countries, Japanese, Malaysians, Brits, and from everywhere else in Europe.

The girls can be packed onto a stage 10 to 50 at a time and often live together in big dorms. Maybe half of them have sex with a tourist on any given night. So, if it hits here, and it may already be here, then it is going everywhere. That is not to mention that some guys go back and forth to Thailand and Pattaya has at least 4 times the number of sex workers. If it hits Pattaya it definitely will go everywhere.

[InkaUtexas 26970]

2 hours ago, Helobious said:

As an SA resident, it’s heartwarming to see lackland on that list. Is there something special about those bases? I don’t understand why they wouldn’t pick bases in remote areas of the country. 

dude, BAMC?????? 

[InkaUtexas 26970]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The AF base and Air Station have large hangers (lots of room for quarantine) and are right there in California.  

Fort Carson and Lackland have training facilities (barracks, chow halls, etc.) that can easily house thousands for lengthy periods of time   

Not surprising at all.  

Did not see your post, but add to it Brooks Army Med and the SF 18D program at Fort Sam. 

Or just toss em in the riverwalk. That water will kill everything. 

[Helobious 9826]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

dude, BAMC?????? 

BAMC is almost entirely across town from lackland. Also more known for burn treatment than infectious disease.

[InkaUtexas 26970]

1 minute ago, Helobious said:

BAMC is almost entirely across town from lackland. Also more known for burn treatment than infectious disease.

Short distance, especially when you have helicopters. and BAMC is so much more than burns. It is a Massive medical facility that can be locked down. 

[clapclapclap 9000]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7955573/American-Airlines-removes-passenger-wearing-GAS-MASK-panicked-fliers.html

Passenger wearing a GAS MASK because 'of coronavirus fears' is removed from an American Airlines flight from Dallas to Houston when he refuses to take it off

Man wearing gas mask boarded American Airlines flight in Dallas on Thursday

Flight 2212 was scheduled to take off in the evening for Houston 

But passengers grew alarmed at sight of the man, who also wore black beanie 

One passenger says flight crew demanded he remove the mask, but he refused

Crew then notified security and the man then left the aircraft

American Airlines said he was rebooked on another flight to Houston

Flight 2212 eventually took off after 50-minute delay and landed in Houston 

...'Just FYI flight 2212 to Houston was delayed an hour because you let this guy on the plane wearing a gas mask,' Joseph Say wrote on Twitter in a tweet directed at the airline as well as news media outlets...

...

'He didn't have a filter, which I thought was more strange. Immediately, people start talking in the back of the plane. They were worried.

'Most people wanted him off the plane.'

Say said passengers wanted to know why the unidentified person was wearing a gas mask.

A flight attendant then came over to the man and asked him to remove the gas mask, but he refused, according to Say.

After the flight crew called security, the man left the aircraft.

'What we heard from the lady sitting next to him was he said he wanted to make a statement,' Say said.

'I don't know what the statement was. I'm not sure what his goals were. To me, it seemed inconsistent.'

 

Dude was flying from Los Angeles to Houston.  Fondren?

Edited February 1, 2020 by clapclapclap

[Helobious 9826]

9 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Short distance, especially when you have helicopters. and BAMC is so much more than burns. It is a Massive medical facility that can be locked down. 

Well BAMC is on Fort Sam so I doubt any corona quarantinees ever make their way there, since Fort Sam wasn’t a mentioned base. Also don’t know that I’d call it massive, you can see the whole thing from 35 and it doesn’t look that big. I’ve never been in there though, maybe there’s underground levels.

[Parliament 14620]

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3048558/fears-coronavirus-spreading-locally-hong-kong

[staboner 5098]

7 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Florida -1200

AD or BC?

[XYZ 2154]

Not really related to the topic, like at all, but one time I had this coworker who was kind of a passive-aggressive asshole, lived in another state, and came to Texas to visit a couple of places in San Antonio, one of them Randolph AFB. He went around calling it “Fort Randolph”, and who was I to correct him?

[Neonmoon 38130]

7 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Florida -1200

I have 

Japan 2-1

Honk Kong 3-1

France 40-1

[HornsOverIthaca 2339]

Gas mask at the airport you say?  Denver and the Illuminati are way ahead of us:

 

[Bigbend1812 13063]

what the fuck is that shit ?  giant sword and rifle with bayonet? come on man!

[Bevo Num1 1068]

If we get quarantined sooner do we get to pick which base we go to? 

Did I count 4 on that list?

[atomheartbevo 90682]

• 14,551 cases, 
• 14,380 cases in China, 171 cases outside of China
• 304 dead.   Still all China. 

Still tracking about the same percentage-wise as far as increases,, although they seemed to have upped their testing by a few hundred (or more), or they are slowly clearing their backlog.  

Still wish they’d release how many tests they are processing a day, so everybody can see how few they are doing.  

[atomheartbevo 90682]

2 hours ago, RayDog said:

My girlfriend has the flu and one of my short-time girlfriends has it too, and now I have a scratchy throat so I have been thinking about this. Angeles has around 100 bars with 20 to 200 girls and Manila is similar. The place is full of Chinese and Korean tourists, but also Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians, Bangladeshies, Arabs from various countries, Japanese, Malaysians, Brits, and from everywhere else in Europe.

The girls can be packed onto a stage 10 to 50 at a time and often live together in big dorms. Maybe half of them have sex with a tourist on any given night. So, if it hits here, and it may already be here, then it is going everywhere. That is not to mention that some guys go back and forth to Thailand and Pattaya has at least 4 times the number of sex workers. If it hits Pattaya it definitely will go everywhere.

What’s it like to fuck a ladyboy?   Asking for a friend.  

[Neonmoon 38130]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

What’s it like to fuck a ladyboy?   Asking for a friend.  

You don’t have to pull out?

[atomheartbevo 90682]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

You don’t have to pull out?

[atomheartbevo 90682]

So 294 deaths in Hubei.   Odd that it’s so damned deadly there, but not much elsewhere, even with thousands of cases elsewhere.  

[Bevo 13929]

11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

• 14,551 cases, 
• 14,380 cases in China, 171 cases outside of China
• 304 dead.   Still all China. 

Still tracking about the same percentage-wise as far as increases,, although they seemed to have upped their testing by a few hundred (or more), or they are slowly clearing their backlog.  

Still wish they’d release how many tests they are processing a day, so everybody can see how few they are doing.  

BNO reports: 14,380  cases, 304  deaths,  2,110 serious,  328 recovered  and 19,544 suspected. I assume the 19,544 suspected cases are in addition to the 14,380 known cases. So I guess there are about 33,924 cases overall. 

[Bevo 13929]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So 294 deaths in Hubei.   Odd that it’s so damned deadly there, but not much elsewhere, even with thousands of cases elsewhere.  

Well, you know the reason.There are a lot more cases in Wuhan than are being reported. Plus, from anecdotal evidence, it appears that symptoms are mild for 8 days or so and then the person gets pneumonia. This means that if people are traveling, they have mild cases and it will take awhile before they become severe or critical. And travelers are generally wealthier, healthier and younger than the general population so they have better outcomes.

One thing that is interesting to me is how long the virus persists. Maybe, it is because the virus is novel so our immune systems aren't able to defend as well. Nonetheless, the flu lasts for maybe 10 days while this thing seems to last 3 weeks or so.

Edited February 2, 2020 by Bevo

[atomheartbevo 90682]

24 minutes ago, Bevo said:

BNO reports: 14,380  cases, 304  deaths,  2,110 serious,  328 recovered  and 19,544 suspected. I assume the 19,544 suspected cases are in addition to the 14,380 known cases. So I guess there are about 33,924 cases overall. 

One of the sites, don’t know if it’s BNO, claimed they were tracking 100,000+ as potential contacts a few days ago.  I imagine that number has gone way up.  

Edit: today was the first day that recovered (328) passed deaths.   Recovered should go way up as people pass their second test after two weeks of no issues.  

Edited February 2, 2020 by atomheartbevo

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

Seems like this is tracking along an exponential curve to date, so linear thinking will mislead. Unless this suddenly curtails I can’t see how this won’t be very disruptive to the global economy (read: us equities). This has me worried, it isn’t when does this start being a real threat here, it’s when do people start freaking out about it being a perceived real threat here, the latter will come much more abruptly and sooner than the former

[F250 29205]

5 hours ago, Helobious said:

As an SA resident, it’s heartwarming to see lackland on that list. Is there something special about those bases? I don’t understand why they wouldn’t pick bases in remote areas of the country. 

It's off highway 90, that is remote. Just kidding, that area has exploded and it's a little concerning tohave a location so ch close.

[Helobious 9826]

7 minutes ago, F250 said:

It's off highway 90, that is remote. Just kidding, that area has exploded and it's a little concerning tohave a location so ch close.

I always thought it was a shame that’s our ugliest part of town. Not the most dangerous, but definitely the ugliest imo. Lots of Air Force recruits from all of the country come to train at lackland and that’s the only part of SA they see. 

[Neonmoon 38130]

36 minutes ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:

Seems like this is tracking along an exponential curve to date, so linear thinking will mislead. Unless this suddenly curtails I can’t see how this won’t be very disruptive to the global economy (read: us equities). This has me worried, it isn’t when does this start being a real threat here, it’s when do people start freaking out about it being a perceived real threat here, the latter will come much more abruptly and sooner than the former

Yeah, I’m not worried about the virus or mortality rate. The mass panic scares me. The financial market to supply chain. People are nuts.