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Against my better judgment and several beers deep, I have taken you up on this, potentially ending my streak of totally worthless posts. I have done 3 and 7 day averages only on the Worldometer data. 

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I can not over emphasize this enough.  Two months ago, My wife went in for a routine procedure at one of the better facilities in DC.  She need a day of recovery.  The bed never opened because they were at capacity, so she spent the full time in a temporary post op area.  

I thought breast augmentation was an outpatient surgery.

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3 minutes ago, Horn_Spanker said:

Sorry if already asked, but what about funeral homes being overwhelmed?  Is it legal to bury grandma in the backyard?

This is why cremation is superior to burial. When one is dead, why take up space that should be utilized by the living. But to answer your question, no, not at least in this country. 

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Agree they should make an example of this dude. It’s unreal what some people try to profit from.


Any governmental entity could seize the inventory and would be liable for fair market value after protracted legal proceedings. Attorney’s fees not recoverable.
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4 minutes ago, Horn_Spanker said:

Sorry if already asked, but what about funeral homes being overwhelmed?  Is it legal to bury grandma in the backyard?

You could always take her body past the pet sematary, over the dead fall, and up to the old Micmac burial ground.

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1 minute ago, UDontKnow said:

This is why cremation is superior to burial. When one is dead, why take up space that should be utilized by the living. But to answer your question, no, not at least in this country. 

I don't want to be reincarnated as dog ashes.

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Was just at Kroger in Houston. No lines, and many items still in stock. 

They’re about to start running commercials: “Hi guys, uhhh, yeah, hey uh we’re still open and fully stocked. When you’re done repeatedly raping the stock at HEB, we’ll be right here for you with the shelves full!”

There’s an old Randall’s that’s had its deathclock ticking since the HEB was built across the street from it last year near where I live. I assume it’s still filled to the brim with goods and perishables while fat women fight each other to the death in the HEB parking lot over batteries and shampoo. 

2 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

I’m trying to hold my emotions together right now.  It’s hard.  This is helping.  
 

 

Aren’t you like a trader or something? Figured you had ice water in your veins.  It’s early to be melting down, isn’t it? I assume we’re about 2 weeks from people truly beginning to lose their shit. 

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They’re about to start running commercials: “Hi guys, uhhh, yeah, hey uh we’re still open and fully stocked. When you’re done repeatedly raping the stock at HEB, we’ll be right here for you with the shelves full!”

There’s an old Randall’s that’s had its deathclock ticking since the HEB was built across the street from it last year near where I live. I assume it’s still filled to the brim with goods and perishables while fat women fight each other to the death in the HEB parking lot over batteries and shampoo. 

Aren’t you like a trader or something? Figured you had ice water in your veins.  It’s early to be melting down, isn’t it? I assume we’re about 2 weeks from people truly beginning to lose their shit. 

I have an 11 week pregnant wife.  I’m about to turn 40.  Everything I’ve been working on is running long.  I’m looking at my bank accounts and know that I’ve got some work to do to be comfortable.   My nephew will be born in 12 days.  My heart just hurts.  I’m a strong man with ice in my veins, but damn, my ice is starting to melt a bit.  I won’t let it melt, but it damn sure wants to. 

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I just started 10mg of Lisinopril ACE for my genetic high blood pressure, so this stuff interests me and has me a little worried.  From the euro cardiac council:

”The Council on Hypertension strongly recommend that physicians and patients should continue treatment with their usual anti-hypertensive therapy because there is no clinical or scientific evidence to suggest that treatment with ACEi or ARBs should be discontinued because of the Covid-19 infection.”

https://www.escardio.org/Councils/Council-on-Hypertension-(CHT)/News/position-statement-of-the-esc-council-on-hypertension-on-ace-inhibitors-and-ang

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17 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

@ChiTownDoc Still waiting patiently for your expose on the Director of CMS. 

Lol.  After she was assigned we were connected through NW on a lot of value based initiatives.  There were a few doctors that we met her with.  She loved talking down to everyone and did nothing as far as follow up.  As you had guessed, she just loves being the Boss in the room as an administrator.  
We had a nurse as CEO at one of our hospitals during my residency...she loved lording over docs and laughing about it in open.  First thing NW did when they bought the place - fire her.  Nothing against nurses but some people get a power trip, and to be fair a lot of doctors are pompous assholes so they mold those people into what they become.  

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1 minute ago, Homercles said:

I just started 10mg of Lisinopril ACE for my genetic high blood pressure, so this stuff interests me and has me a little worried.  From the euro cardiac council:

”The Council on Hypertension strongly recommend that physicians and patients should continue treatment with their usual anti-hypertensive therapy because there is no clinical or scientific evidence to suggest that treatment with ACEi or ARBs should be discontinued because of the Covid-19 infection.”

https://www.escardio.org/Councils/Council-on-Hypertension-(CHT)/News/position-statement-of-the-esc-council-on-hypertension-on-ace-inhibitors-and-ang

you mean in the 10 weeks this virus is known to be in existence there hasn't been clinical trials?

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I just started 10mg of Lisinopril ACE for my genetic high blood pressure, so this stuff interests me and has me a little worried.  From the euro cardiac council:

”The Council on Hypertension strongly recommend that physicians and patients should continue treatment with their usual anti-hypertensive therapy because there is no clinical or scientific evidence to suggest that treatment with ACEi or ARBs should be discontinued because of the Covid-19 infection.”

https://www.escardio.org/Councils/Council-on-Hypertension-(CHT)/News/position-statement-of-the-esc-council-on-hypertension-on-ace-inhibitors-and-ang

Methinks the council on hypertension would prefer people die of covid19 rather than hypertension. 

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Lol.  After she was assigned we were connected through NW on a lot of value based initiatives.  There were a few doctors that we met her with.  She loved talking down to everyone and did nothing as far as follow up.  As you had guessed, she just loves being the Boss in the room as an administrator.  
We had a nurse as CEO at one of our hospitals during my residency...she loved lording over docs and laughing about it in open.  First thing NW did when they bought the place - fire her.  Nothing against nurses but some people get a power trip, and to be fair a lot of doctors are pompous assholes so they mold those people into what they become.  

It's funny but I was at a meeting a month ago and a former CMS director spoke to us about the status of the healthcare system and Medicare for All.  Your description of the current CMS director is exactly what this lady seemed like.  She knew everything and seemed to be talking down to the crowd kind of like she was on a power trip also.  Maybe it's a requirement for the role or something.

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Because our hospital system runs very lean and near capacity at all times, so it wouldn’t take much of a spike to create such a situation. Especially if most of the patients need help breathing. 

Without converting rooms, my hospital had only 5 open critical beds on Thursday. No Covid patients that we know of.

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Hays County. SIAP

 

https://smcorridornews.com/breaking-hays-county-announces-first-coronavirus-case/

 

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The patient was admitted to a local hospital and is currently recovering there. At no time did they expose any Hays County residents to this disease.

 

I'm not sure how you can make this claim with asymptomatic transmission.

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5 minutes ago, Homercles said:

I just started 10mg of Lisinopril ACE for my genetic high blood pressure, so this stuff interests me and has me a little worried.  From the euro cardiac council:

”The Council on Hypertension strongly recommend that physicians and patients should continue treatment with their usual anti-hypertensive therapy because there is no clinical or scientific evidence to suggest that treatment with ACEi or ARBs should be discontinued because of the Covid-19 infection.”

https://www.escardio.org/Councils/Council-on-Hypertension-(CHT)/News/position-statement-of-the-esc-council-on-hypertension-on-ace-inhibitors-and-ang

 

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you mean in the 10 weeks this virus is known to be in existence there hasn't been clinical trials?

I don't think that discontinuation of an ACEI would result in a rapid decrease of ACE2 expression, at least not in the time frame that exposure is likely to occur (7-10 days). 

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Lol.  After she was assigned we were connected through NW on a lot of value based initiatives.  There were a few doctors that we met her with.  She loved talking down to everyone and did nothing as far as follow up.  As you had guessed, she just loves being the Boss in the room as an administrator.  
We had a nurse as CEO at one of our hospitals during my residency...she loved lording over docs and laughing about it in open.  First thing NW did when they bought the place - fire her.  Nothing against nurses but some people get a power trip, and to be fair a lot of doctors are pompous assholes so they mold those people into what they become.  

I suspect Verma's husband might be a cuck because I fail to comprehend how a physician would want to be with that. I miss the days where healthcare providers were running the hospitals. So many administrators speak confidently and you wonder if they have ever touched a patient (and clearly they have not). Based on her history in her current position, Verma fits it to a tee. Johns Hopkins University (where she received her MPH) should be embarrassed for her because anything she has done in her tenure is directed towards further reducing access and coverage to medical care.

It's funny how many nurses love to take power trips on doctors. Lucky for me, I am able to diffuse that quickly because I inform nurses that my mother is a nurse and they begrudgingly back down.

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I have an 11 week pregnant wife.  I’m about to turn 40.  Everything I’ve been working on is running long.  I’m looking at my bank accounts and know that I’ve got some work to do to be comfortable.   My nephew will be born in 12 days.  My heart just hurts.  I’m a strong man with ice in my veins, but damn, my ice is starting to melt a bit.  I won’t let it melt, but it damn sure wants to. 

Let's meet up down at Southern Roots and have a pint after this is all over

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I can not over emphasize this enough.  Two months ago, My wife went in for a routine procedure at one of the better facilities in DC.  She need a day of recovery.  The bed never opened because they were at capacity, so she spent the full time in a temporary post op area.  

Pic of your wife’s new bolt ons?
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5 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

It's funny but I was at a meeting a month ago and a former CMS director spoke to us about the status of the healthcare system and Medicare for All.  Your description of the current CMS director is exactly what this lady seemed like.  She knew everything and seemed to be talking down to the crowd kind of like she was on a power trip also.  Maybe it's a requirement for the role or something.

That and being in bed with the private medical insurance industry.

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3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

I don't think that discontinuation of an ACEI would result in a rapid decrease of ACE2 expression, at least not in the time frame that exposure is likely to occur (7-10 days). 

This is true.

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8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Methinks the council on hypertension would prefer people die of covid19 rather than hypertension. 

Right, you are never going to get an "official" statement from any kind of council (or many doctors for that matter) absent a clinical trial proving something.  There is going to need to be a lot reading between the lines and making your own educated decisions as more info becomes available on COVID.  The great thing about this day and age is that if you have access to internet you literally can be more informed than most of your doctors.  Just go follow a ton of specialists on twitter and they are all taking about whatever you are interested in among themselves and linking to different articles, etc..  You may only follow about half of it because of all the medical jargon and short hand but enough to get the big picture.  It's going to be fascinating to see the discussion among those on the front lines as they try different things here as the shit hits the fan.   

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Are you guys under the illusion that you’re speaking English? What is it you’re saying?

I don't think that telling people to stop taking their lisinopril is a good idea.

 

Disclosure: takes lisinopril. 

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Are you guys under the illusion that you’re speaking English? What is it you’re saying?

They are saying those ACE2 receptors dont magically go away immediately after you stop taking your Lisinopril. It takes time for the body to adjust. 

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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Are you guys under the illusion that you’re speaking English? What is it you’re saying?

Ace inhibitors cause cells to increase the number of receptors on the cell surface. These receptors are the same ones that COVID-19 uses to enter the cell.

Sure people could get off ACE inhibitors but the receptors on the cell surface wouldn't immediately disappear.

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