Formerly DT: COVID-19 - Featuring Lots of Politics, now CR because political talk not going away

[InkaUtexas 25496]

1 hour ago, clapclapclap said:

 

Good drone strike target. 

[dcar00 14030]

1 hour ago, freyguy said:

And that's flu deaths with no social distancing, stay-at-home-orders etc.....

Try thinking more and posting less...

Ballgame

[Iceman 2639]

59 minutes ago, freyguy said:

I thought it was yellow fever that started all this?

Bat Scratch Fever.

[Pato del Muerto 52338]

2 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

 

Which one is @Sbbruin?

[freyguy 4245]

40 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Bat Scratch Fever.

[Hmbre97 6297]

2 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

I think all the time fuckface.  I get the argument, but I’ll be sure every February from here on to post the day we surpass Vietnam War level deaths with flu deaths from here on out.  
 

its fucking Yellow Journalism at its very worst.  

Ok, good luck with that.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

 

So we've eclipsed every flu season (which are typically 4-5 months long each year) in the last 10 years except one in less than half the time of a typical flu season WHILE social distancing/SIP.

Tell us some more how this is comparable to the flu, please.

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Hmbre97

[gmr548 16491]

Interesting. are you talking about state workers?  I agree no way to do for fed money unless a private employer really wants to risk a lawsuit.   are there state benefits a non state employee receives?

Unemployment is administered at the state level

[gmr548 16491]

Nvm deleted missed context

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

DMN:


Moviegoers will have to wait a little longer to watch in-theater screenings, despite Gov. Greg Abbott’s Texas reopening plan that allows movie theaters to get back to business with limited occupancy on Friday.

Most large theater chains, closed since mid-March, have declined to take advantage of the voluntary reopening date. Cinemark, Studio Movie Grill and Alamo Drafthouse locations will remain closed until further notice, citing the safety of both customers and staff as issues that must be addressed before the public is invited back for films and concessions.

Cinemark said Tuesday it’s proceeding with plans for a midsummer opening. AMC Theatres is targeting a similar date, according to a report from the entertainment news site Deadline.

Cinépolis USA CEO Luis Olloqui released a statement on Tuesday saying its theaters, including its two North Texas locations in Victory Park and Euless, won’t open on Friday either. When the chain does turn the lights back on, it will operate with a “heightened cleaning/disinfecting regimen which involves new processes, equipment and extensive training,” it said in the statement, adding that more details on timing would be made public within weeks.

According to similar statements posted online, suburban movie houses Flix Brewhouse in Little Elm and Movie House & Eatery in Flower Mound, Keller and McKinney have followed suit, declining to reopen in time for the weekend.

The Texas Theatre noted on Twitter that it will stay shut too for the time being, though its virtual events and curbside offerings will continue.

Landmark Theatres and Angelika Film Center couldn’t be reached on Tuesday for information about their plans.

There’s still a chance to get out of the house and go to the movies though, if you don’t mind staying in your car. Coyote Drive-In in Fort Worth and Galaxy Drive-In in Ennis will be open on Friday evening. Outdoor seating and play areas at the drive-ins will remain closed.

In addition to forcing theaters to close, the coronavirus crisis has upended the release calendars for many major films, posing a challenge for theaters that seek to lure back crowds.

[Trey3216 15325]

6 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

Ok, good luck with that.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

 

So we've eclipsed every flu season (which are typically 4-5 months long each year) in the last 10 years except one in less than half the time of a typical flu season WHILE social distancing/SIP.

Tell us some more how this is comparable to the flu, please.

 

Didn’t say it was comparable.  I said I will be sure to acknowledge every flu season where more than 56k die going forward in the same light that that fucking headline stated.  Pure and simple.  
 

never said I was taking it lightly, and if you’ve read any of my posts on this thread, you’d know that.   I said that the headline was a wretched form of yellow journalism, and I’ll treat it as such going forward by following the same guidelines with other diseases.   

[gmr548 16491]

 

Nvm deleted missed context

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Stay safe Texas! 

[Trey3216 15325]

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Stay safe Texas! 

You too, Stalingrad.  

[InkaUtexas 25496]

6 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

You too, Stalingrad Leningrad.  

FIFy.  900 Days... 

[clapclapclap 9000]

20 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Stay safe Texas! 

T&P's, I heard 3 of your socks tested positive.

[Bevo 13524]

I'd just like to say, we are all in this together.

[atomheartbevo 89407]

7 hours ago, Royalfan5 said:

Beef finished the days on new highs again, moving past $330, with pork still holding below $90. The number of boxed beef loads was 99, so were off about 10% from last week which isn't as much as the run rates has went down, likely reflecting some heavier animals with the back up, which is a least at little offset, we should be seeing the same in hogs too. 

3 hours ago, RayDog said:

I noticed this morning that all the street dogs are gone now. Most do have owners, but they have them live on the street. I noticed this morning that some trash my friend  put out last night with chicken bones was unmolested instead of the mess we would have seen even last week. We would normally see a dozen or so dogs during our morning  shopping walk, but there were none. I mentioned it to my friend and she asked what I thought happened to them. She did not like my answer.

I have assumed a lot of pets did not make it through the lockdowns in China. Very sad.

We are getting close to RayDog’s and Royalfan5’s posts merging, aren’t we?

[XYZ 2154]

So even though the Texas stay at home order expires on 4/30, the Travis County order goes until 5/8, right? So nothing will change in Travis Co until 5/8, or will it?

[NeverMarryAStripper 21781]

That depends on whether or not Travis County is part of Texas

[XYZ 2154]

It is.

[Anastasis 23393]

Travis country weekend lull in new cases once again gets trounced with monday and tuesday catch up numbers. Disappointing to not see a real reduction in the case rate from all the SiP and social isolation measures.  Looks like the best that we can hope to accomplish with those measures is holding the linear growth rate. Guess we will see what happens as things open up over the next month. 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Anastasis

[Hate 20103]

13 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

We are getting close to RayDog’s and Royalfan5’s posts merging, aren’t we?

I sincerely love it when both of them post here.  It's a view into a world I didn't know about and in at least one of these cases, I'm kind of sad I won't ever get to experience.

[F250 28679]

This era sucks, can we go back to the time when our biggest problem was a declining Mack Brown?

 

[Newdoc 3429]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Travis country weekend lull in new cases once again gets trounced with monday and tuesday catch up numbers. Disappointing to not see a real reduction in the case rate from all the SiP and social isolation measures.  Looks like the best that we can hope to accomplish with those measures is holding the linear growth rate. Guess we will see what happens as things open up over the next month. 

 

 

I realize one can do the math and see daily increase in cases but wouldn’t a bar graph of new daily cases be more descriptive of active and potential logarithmic spread? And wouldn’t a running five day average be less shocking than watching inconsistent reporting of daily numbers since local governments and health administrators seem take the weekend off in gathering data? And all of these numbers would be less frightening if an active case track was shown as well.

And how much increase is count is due to increased testing per capita?

[Pato del Muerto 52338]

So.  The statewide positivity percentage in Wyoming has gone down from 6% to 2% of tests this month. Currently 502 confirmed or presumed cases out of a population of 580k. cool beans. 
but. Now is the time that the second home folks make their way up from the south and southwest, and Memorial Day is usually around when tourists begin pouring in.
Will be interesting to see how this affects the local population.  Will also see how the closing of Yellowstone accommodations and delayed gate opening affects the flow of people. RV parks around here are already beginning to fill. 

[atomheartbevo 89407]

19 minutes ago, XYZ said:

So even though the Texas stay at home order expires on 4/30, the Travis County order goes until 5/8, right? So nothing will change in Travis Co until 5/8, or will it?

I don’t think it really matters.  Many competently-run businesses that rely on customers coming through the door are going to pay attention to the medical professionals and stay closed or in a reduced mode as long as they can afford to.  For instance, major movie chains are looking more at the summer months

Or to put it another way, many who can afford to wait a little longer don’t want to end up on the evening news as a covid hotspot, while others will have to roll the dice.  That’s going to create its own set of financial problems if you get nailed with an outbreak.   Imagine a shitload of Karens flocking to social media, Yelp, etc.

[RayDog 682]

40 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

We are getting close to RayDog’s and Royalfan5’s posts merging, aren’t we?

My friend was supposed to be in her village for their annual festival last weekend. Someone posted a picture of 5 happy looking young pigs there who escaped being turned into lechon. This is festival season in all the province villages so it has been repeated numerous times. 

[Anastasis 23393]

31 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

I realize one can do the math and see daily increase in cases but wouldn’t a bar graph of new daily cases be more descriptive of active and potential logarithmic spread? And wouldn’t a running five day average be less shocking than watching inconsistent reporting of daily numbers since local governments and health administrators seem take the weekend off in gathering data? And all of these numbers would be less frightening if an active case track was shown as well.

And how much increase is count is due to increased testing per capita?

Yes.  I would agree on all counts.  The Travis county site use to give the daily new case count as a bar graph, but for some reason don't present the data that way anymore. The Texas site reports both ways, and also reports the total number of tests performed, so the data are out there somewhere. The texas site only does cumulative tests by country, I don't see testing over time by county.  Travis is currently at 11k+ tests. Your point regarding the need to tease out the number of new cases as a function of the number of tests performed is well made. I guess that makes me feel a little less depressed about these counts. 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Anastasis

[smoky 837]

I realize one can do the math and see daily increase in cases but wouldn’t a bar graph of new daily cases be more descriptive of active and potential logarithmic spread? And wouldn’t a running five day average be less shocking than watching inconsistent reporting of daily numbers since local governments and health administrators seem take the weekend off in gathering data? And all of these numbers would be less frightening if an active case track was shown as well.
And how much increase is count is due to increased testing per capita?

Seems like a hospitalization count or death count, by age, would be an even better way to present the data, especially if it's current, not cumulative.

If we do ramp up testing, tallying up thousands of positive college kids who were asymptomatic doesn't tell the whole picture.

[atomheartbevo 89407]

18 minutes ago, F250 said:

This era sucks, can we go back to the time when our biggest problem was a declining Mack Brown?

As an 80s kid, over the past 10-15 years I’ve watched

• The Star Wars film franchise destroyed, with the only decent Star Wars being a cartoon series and a live-action TV series about a baby Yoda.
• The Star Trek franchise run into the ground
• A shitty Indiana Jones movie.  
• A shitty Ghostbusters movie
• DC ruin Batman and Superman
• Two shitty G I Joe live-action movies (granted Sienna Miller as Baroness was hot AF)

So it’s somehow fitting that covid kind of closes out the 2010s    

Shit, I read a bunch of those cheesy 80s survivalist porn series, The Survivalist series from Jerry Ahern (dude knew his firearms though), the Wingman, and a bunch that were so bad, I can’t even remember.  And  here we get a scenario that, while not on the level of the 80s Cold War turned hot with nukes flying, should have seen the preppers thriving and mocking everybody.  And many of those fucks were instead whining about shit they should have anticipated long ago, like toilet paper.

Fuck. I’m not sure where I was going with this.  

But hey, speaking of the 80s, within a few months, we will have new G I Joe action figures and play sets in Walmart,, so I can spoil my son.  And we get a Snake Eyes movie in the fall.  Okay, it’s too damned late.   

[InkaUtexas 25496]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Yes.  I would agree on all counts.  The Travis county site use to give the daily new case count as a bar graph, but for some reason don't present the data that way anymore. The Texas site reports both ways, and also reports the total number of tests performed, so the data are out there somewhere. The texas site only does cumulative tests by country, I don't see testing over time by county.  Travis is currently at 11k+ tests. Your point regarding the need to tease out the number of new cases as a function of the number of tests performed is well made. I guess that makes me feel a little less depressed about these counts. 

 

Shit Hay county has been frozen since last week.

"Hell baby, lets reopen the outlet mall. Wanna go float the river Kylie? No, Brad, I realllllllllly need to go see what sales are on at forever 21."Maybe someone can write a movie. 

 

[atomheartbevo 89407]

5 minutes ago, smoky said:

Seems like a hospitalization count or death count, by age, would be an even better way to present the data, especially if it's current, not cumulative.

If we do ramp up testing, tallying up thousands of positive college kids who were asymptomatic doesn't tell the whole picture.

Some of the Austin-area hospitals/chains were refusing to provide hospitalization rates/data, claiming they didn’t have to. Don’t know if that’s changed or if TC is releasing the data as well, but agreed, that data is more helpful. 

[Anastasis 23393]

7 minutes ago, smoky said:

Seems like a hospitalization count or death count, by age, would be an even better way to present the data, especially if it's current, not cumulative.

Travis county only has a cumulative break out by age. Here are the statewide trends, but death data would also lag the case trends by some number of days.

[atomheartbevo 89407]

Watching some old history vids on YouTube and just got an ad for Ashley Furniture.  They mentioned their “safe, clean and fever-free show rooms”.  
 

[achooloco 1065]

On 4/27/2020 at 5:16 PM, BabaYaga said:

100% this.  The point was never catch it or keep others from catching, but to protect the HC system.  Staying home with layers and layers of more draconian measures to keep people from "escaping" is lunacy of the highest order, especially with the data we have now.  As stated earlier, Sweden is getting close to herd immunity status having done none of the heavy-handed measures that destroyed so many businesses and wealth across the world.  

They still destroyed their economy. And they instituted short term/part time work visas to help the economy. That are also running out of money.  They might hit herd in their country before us but they’re still Fucked once the rest of Europe decides to visit. 

[UT_OB1 2200]

27 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

As an 80s kid, over the past 10-15 years I’ve watched

• The Star Wars film franchise destroyed, with the only decent Star Wars being a cartoon series and a live-action TV series about a baby Yoda.
• The Star Trek franchise run into the ground
• A shitty Indiana Jones movie.  
• A shitty Ghostbusters movie
• DC ruin Batman and Superman
• Two shitty G I Joe live-action movies (granted Sienna Miller as Baroness was hot AF)

So it’s somehow fitting that covid kind of closes out the 2010s    

Shit, I read a bunch of those cheesy 80s survivalist porn series, The Survivalist series from Jerry Ahern (dude knew his firearms though), the Wingman, and a bunch that were so bad, I can’t even remember.  And  here we get a scenario that, while not on the level of the 80s Cold War turned hot with nukes flying, should have seen the preppers thriving and mocking everybody.  And many of those fucks were instead whining about shit they should have anticipated long ago, like toilet paper.

Fuck. I’m not sure where I was going with this.  

But hey, speaking of the 80s, within a few months, we will have new G I Joe action figures and play sets in Walmart,, so I can spoil my son.  And we get a Snake Eyes movie in the fall.  Okay, it’s too damned late.   

Now hold on and back off that ledge just a hair. If you’re going back 15 years, then you are including the start of the Nolan Batman trilogy, which is arguably the best set of comic book movies ever.  
 

I agree with all the rest, but you’re expectations were too high if you thought they could make a compelling character out Superman. 

Edited April 29, 2020 by UT_OB1

[achooloco 1065]

On 4/27/2020 at 3:39 PM, Johnny Sack said:

Can they just not shut them down and walk, Uber, bike to work?  

Lol.. that’s a very ignorant statement. Live somewhere outside your bubble bro. LOL!!!

[achooloco 1065]

On 4/27/2020 at 6:24 PM, Zepol87 said:

I think I am gonna let this baby ride and grow a sweet mexican mullet

Already did. We should have an anon thread for everyone’s fucked up facial/head cuts

[InkaUtexas 25496]

6 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Somber... Sad.... Real.... 

 

So did my fucking add on get deleted? Damn, this site has all the covid 2021. Double, triple posts, S. Austin's mom. Hugo rising from the dead in LA.

[Schulz2.0 28764]

5 hours ago, Js1 said:

And people fell for it. Some real idiots here

[stone oak 639]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Stay safe Texas! 

[justhookit 4177]

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So.  The statewide positivity percentage in Wyoming has gone down from 6% to 2% of tests this month. Currently 502 confirmed or presumed cases out of a population of 580k. cool beans. 
but. Now is the time that the second home folks make their way up from the south and southwest, and Memorial Day is usually around when tourists begin pouring in.
Will be interesting to see how this affects the local population.  Will also see how the closing of Yellowstone accommodations and delayed gate opening affects the flow of people. RV parks around here are already beginning to fill. 

As long as they aren’t pouring in from NY I don’t see the problem.

But seriously we have the same issue here in Texas. Our ex-mayor of Port Aransas was on the news today begging people to come down “you don’t have to fly!” ‘Our hotels and rentals open Friday”. I keep asking where all 30,000 people that come down this weekend are going to eat since almost nothing is open or planning to open.  Nobody seems to want to answer that. Can’t wait until the 1 grocery store in town runs out of food. Next  2 months are going to be really interesting. Hopefully the low numbers we’ve seen here 7/3500 have something to do with the weather (and all 7 either got it after traveling or got it directly from someone who did travel).

Edited April 29, 2020 by justhookit

[SydneyCarton 47846]

7 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Yes.  I would agree on all counts.  The Travis county site use to give the daily new case count as a bar graph, but for some reason don't present the data that way anymore. The Texas site reports both ways, and also reports the total number of tests performed, so the data are out there somewhere. The texas site only does cumulative tests by country, I don't see testing over time by county.  Travis is currently at 11k+ tests. Your point regarding the need to tease out the number of new cases as a function of the number of tests performed is well made. I guess that makes me feel a little less depressed about these counts. 

 

Has it been confirmed with any certainty that these graphs are removing “recovered” cases? If not, perhaps it looks even more optimistic to your eyes? 

[wild_turkey 3152]

13 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Following up on the restaurant profit/pricing discussion the reopening restaurants are going to run face first into huge cost increases for protein.  So add that to the list.

1.) employees unwilling to return to work due to taking a paycut vs. UE

2.) government capacity restrictions 

3.) significant raw materials cost increased

Unfortunately, It probably makes economic sense for many to not reopen or delay as long as possible.

Can you or someone else explain why a restaurant would find it financially feasible to be open for carryout but not open for 25% dine-in capacity? It seems like overhead and food costs would be very similar. The only obvious difference I see is whether or not to pay waitstaff, which I would think that relatively small expense would be offset by an increase in alcohol sales for people who dine-in.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

21 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

As an 80s kid, over the past 10-15 years I’ve watched

• The Star Wars film franchise destroyed, with the only decent Star Wars being a cartoon series and a live-action TV series about a baby Yoda.
• The Star Trek franchise run into the ground
• A shitty Indiana Jones movie.  
• A shitty Ghostbusters movie
• DC ruin Batman and Superman
• Two shitty G I Joe live-action movies (granted Sienna Miller as Baroness was hot AF)

So it’s somehow fitting that covid kind of closes out the 2010s    

Shit, I read a bunch of those cheesy 80s survivalist porn series, The Survivalist series from Jerry Ahern (dude knew his firearms though), the Wingman, and a bunch that were so bad, I can’t even remember.  And  here we get a scenario that, while not on the level of the 80s Cold War turned hot with nukes flying, should have seen the preppers thriving and mocking everybody.  And many of those fucks were instead whining about shit they should have anticipated long ago, like toilet paper.

Fuck. I’m not sure where I was going with this.  

But hey, speaking of the 80s, within a few months, we will have new G I Joe action figures and play sets in Walmart,, so I can spoil my son.  And we get a Snake Eyes movie in the fall.  Okay, it’s too damned late.   

Your problem is you're watching a bunch of serious, artsy type films. You need to switch to some more light hearted, and entertaining fare.  Throw in the destruction of rock and roll thru MTV, and you're on to something though.

Edited April 30, 2020 by Onboard 2.0

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Watching some old history vids on YouTube and just got an ad for Ashley Furniture.  They mentioned their “safe, clean and fever-free show rooms”.  
 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

11 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

It is sad.  It’s also a number that is eclipsed by flu deaths right about every other year.   Not to be one of those people, but that is a fucking “Gotcha” headline if I’ve ever seen one. 
 

Definitely sad, and eye-opening, but perspective seems to be at the will of ink and keystroke these days. 

But I was promised Ball Game

[Lat22 3994]

11 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

its fucking Yellow Journalism at its very worst.  

The worst is coming next week after states start reopening.

[Trey3216 15325]

3 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

The worst is coming next week after states start reopening.

I have no doubt