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41 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

CDC no longer recommending testing...even post exposure.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/testing-overview.html

That page says in the second or third sentence of the section on Viral Testing:

  Viral tests are recommended to diagnose infection. 

That sounds like a recommendation for testing.

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31 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That page says in the second or third sentence of the section on Viral Testing:

  Viral tests are recommended to diagnose infection. 

That sounds like a recommendation for testing.

Scroll down and it says even close contact you do not need to test.  Just monitor symptoms.  They don’t even recommend quarantine.

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Its already been confirmed that children can spread it and can also link to studies that show how asymptomatic children have high loads of Covid. If you know no cases where children have spread it to each other, caught it, tested positive, etc, then you need to broaden your research.

http:// https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/08/20/children-covid-19-transmission

The unknown is how much it will spread as children become much more mobile in schools. My prediction is by November 1, schools will be shut down at Spring levels in the US. I hope Im wrong.

I didn’t say they couldn’t spread it but it seems to be minimal. You linked a study looking at higher viral loads in kids. Ok.
 

The thread I linked had separate analyses of kids after school openings in Holland, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Ireland, South Korea and Greece which found limited transmission especially in young schoolchildren
 

That article was very alarmist as well. Going back to the Kawasaki like syndrome in kids and mentioning kids can get very sick. 
39 kids 15 and under have died. By comparison over 300 died of swine flu and we didn’t have mass closures. 
 

You tell me to broaden my research but, it looks like you might need to do so. 

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What's worse, a science denier or a disaster scientist?

What about a Disaster Denier?  Or a Science Denying Scientist?  It's 2020, and I've actually encountered way more of both than I ever thought possible.  

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I didn’t say they couldn’t spread it but it seems to be minimal. You linked a study looking at higher viral loads in kids. Ok.
 
The thread I linked had separate analyses of kids after school openings in Holland, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Ireland, South Korea and Greece which found limited transmission especially in young schoolchildren
 
That article was very alarmist as well. Going back to the Kawasaki like syndrome in kids and mentioning kids can get very sick. 
39 kids 15 and under have died. By comparison over 300 died of swine flu and we didn’t have mass closures. 
 
You tell me to broaden my research but, it looks like you might need to do so. 

Ok, cool.

We know kids can spread it

We know asymptomatic people can spread it.

My concern is not just we’ll have child fatalities in addition to normal child mortalities.

My concern is that 50 million kids will greatly expand the number of asymptomatic transmissions due to massive increase in touchpoints and range of these asymptomatic carriers, which makes this virus so catastrophic to our society. And to parents and school staff.

I’ll grant you that schools can safely open in places with low community transmission and/or with far superior government interventions and planning.
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Kids are not the big issue in schools to me. They will get it, they will mostly recover.  But how many teachers can be out at one time due to quarantine or symptoms before the school is impacted. 

parents that send their kids to school need to expect their kid to get it and bring it home and infect the family. 
 

I guess if kids end up missing too many school days due to symptoms then that’s an issue too, but I’d imagine that exceptions  will be made for excessive absences being able to advance. 

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Ok, cool.

We know kids can spread it

We know asymptomatic people can spread it.

My concern is not just we’ll have child fatalities in addition to normal child mortalities.

My concern is that 50 million kids will greatly expand the number of asymptomatic transmissions due to massive increase in touchpoints and range of these asymptomatic carriers, which makes this virus so catastrophic to our society. And to parents and school staff.

I’ll grant you that schools can safely open in places with low community transmission and/or with far superior government interventions and planning.

My kids have been in  in person school for 2 weeks.  So far no cases for staff or students.  They are masked up while inside and were able to add a few teachers to allow for smaller classes. Also, a small private school so no comparison to the big publics.  But the kids are the happiest they've been since March and I'm not dead yet.  Great success.

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Ok, cool.

We know kids can spread it

We know asymptomatic people can spread it.

My concern is not just we’ll have child fatalities in addition to normal child mortalities.

My concern is that 50 million kids will greatly expand the number of asymptomatic transmissions due to massive increase in touchpoints and range of these asymptomatic carriers, which makes this virus so catastrophic to our society. And to parents and school staff.

I’ll grant you that schools can safely open in places with low community transmission and/or with far superior government interventions and planning.

 

9 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Kids are not the big issue in schools to me. They will get it, they will mostly recover.  But how many teachers can be out at one time due to quarantine or symptoms before the school is impacted. 

parents that send their kids to school need to expect their kid to get it and bring it home and infect the family. 
 

I guess if kids end up missing too many school days due to symptoms then that’s an issue too, but I’d imagine that exceptions  will be made for excessive absences being able to advance. 

Nothing is settled but if you actually read the studies linked they’ve all found minimal (not zero) transmission in schools. Western countries with similar populations, some areas with high spread as well. These retrospective studies have limitations, but it might help if you actually read their findings. It might assuage your concerns if you have an open mind. 

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My kids have been in  in person school for 2 weeks.  So far no cases for staff or students.  They are masked up while inside and were able to add a few teachers to allow for smaller classes. Also, a small private school so no comparison to the big publics.  But the kids are the happiest they've been since March and I'm not dead yet.  Great success.

Fuckin A. Mine went back today. They were all excited although the kid moving up to middle school was nervous. 

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Unfathomable to me that NYC is at less than 1% positivity and de Blasio isn't allowing indoor dining, even at 50%.

 

I thought Texas was probably making a mistaking continuing indoor dining at 50% capacity during the summer outbreak here.  But the Texas metro areas have proven masks + bar closings are sufficient to shut this thing down.   We are back to May levels in Dallas.

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I thought Texas was probably making a mistaking continuing indoor dining at 50% capacity during the summer outbreak here.  But the Texas metro areas have proven masks + bar closings are sufficient to shut this thing down.   We are back to May levels in Dallas.

bar closings are the biggest.  that said, I am going to invest in manufacturing plant for 6 foot round tables.

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lulz. UT bid day was yesterday. sororities doing their part to combat covid. my daughter (no pics) was part of the shitshow yesterday.

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It’s time to accept that young people don’t give a fuck about Covid. If I was 19 I wouldn’t give a fuck either.

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lulz. UT bid day was yesterday. sororities doing their part to combat covid. my daughter (no pics) was part of the shitshow yesterday.

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Where is that taken?  University/South Mall?  I cant recall any divided street in front of a sorority house, but it has been a minute, or two.

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34 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

it was posted on this twitter.

pic was taken in front of hardin house. supposedly of Pi Phi, hence the girl wearing the halo.

their instagram went private if that means anything...

Yep, a bunch of girls who live in the same dorm and are around each other 24 hours/day have the temerity to take group pictures for 20 minutes outside on bid day.  They are going to be the sole cause of a massive COVID outbreak on campus.    

 

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other sororities did not have a problem following instructions. the greek system knew and agreed to the protocols set for for rush. completely understood that bid day is a tremendous day for these women, but the university has been very specific on issues and events with respect to covid. this is shit that will force the university to send students home. 

 

https://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/sfl/join_upc_sched.php

Bid Day

Monday, August 24
Hybrid Event
Bid Day Convocation via YouTube Live: 11:00 am
Rho Gamma Galls and Bid Reveal via Zoom: Approx. 11:30 am
Virtual Chapter Celebrations Via Zoom: Approx. 11:30 am – 12:30 pm
Scheduled "Meet and Greets" at the chapter facility: 1:00 pm on

  • Chapter "Meet and Greets"
    • PNMs will be invited to visit the chapter facility in scheduled small groups through the day. During this time you may meet chapter leaders, take a photo, and receive their bid card and a welcome gift. Your chapter will communicate your scheduled time during or after your zoom celebration.
    • Guests (such as parents, family, friends, or alumnae) may not attend "Meet and Greets" at the chapter facility. If a guest wishes to celebrate with a PNM they must do so away from the chapter facility. We encourage all PNMs and their guests to celebrate in responsible and socially distance way such as outdoor meals or walks.
    • At "Meet and Greets" PNMs and chapter representatives will wear masks, and respect physical distancing.
    • Attending "Meet and Greets" is not mandatory. The night prior, PNMs will answer a survey indicating their ability and comfort in visiting the chapter facility in a small group. If you cannot or choose not to attend a "Meet and Greet" you will still be introduced to your organization through your zoom celebration.

 

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Yep, a bunch of girls who live in the same dorm and are around each other 24 hours/day have the temerity to take group pictures for 20 minutes outside on bid day.  They are going to be the sole cause of a massive COVID outbreak on campus.    

 

I don't know the cause of the outbreak, but I saw this story on my feed earlier this morning at Bama. Shit can still spread, yo.

566 coronavirus cases reported at University of Alabama in less than a week since classes started
Of the 566 new cases, 531 of them were reported in students, faculty and staff at the university's main campus in Tuscaloosa.

The University of Alabama on Monday reported that more than 550 people on campuses have tested positive for coronavirus since classes began less than a week earlier.

Of the 566 new cases at the University of Alabama's campuses and facilities, 531 of them were reported in students, faculty and staff at the university's main campus in Tuscaloosa, according to the school's tracker, released Monday.

Those numbers don't include the 310 students who tested positive before Wednesday, Aug. 19, upon returning to school at the Tuscaloosa campus.

Kellee Reinhart, senior vice-chancellor for communications and community relations at the university, told NBC News that "the University has an ample amount of quarantine space for COVID-positive students."

"Many students have chosen to go home to recuperate," she added.

Selwyn Vickers, dean of the School of Medicine at UAB and co-chair of the UA System Health and Safety Task Force, said that "over the past week, due to student behavior, we have seen a spike in the number of students who have sought re-testing because they became symptomatic or were exposed to a COVID-positive individual. That trend prompted the decision to take further steps to reduce the chance that the COVID- 19 virus will escalate dramatically.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/566-coronavirus-cases-reported-university-alabama-less-week-classes-started-n1237993

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You are presenting one extreme as half of a binary choice. 

 

The most irritating thing about discussing COVID is that there's a portion of the population that believes any measure, eveb simple shit that works, is basically a full indefinite lockdown. In the words of Eiswnhower, their number is negligible (okay it might actually not be) and they are stupid (definitely are).

 

That really sucks for your friend, your loss, and his family, but yeah lots of people die from the flu.

 

Onboard Onbrand

 

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4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Are there campus construction signs and trash bins outside of campus?

Well, University/South Mall is where the Kappa and Alpha Phi houses are and I believe that is still technically on campus.  Or was and now there's a little carve out there.

I dont recall any kind of divider on Rio Grande, but satellite views tell me that they exist now.

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3 hours ago, crash_davis said:

other sororities did not have a problem following instructions. the greek system knew and agreed to the protocols set for for rush. completely understood that bid day is a tremendous day for these women, but the university has been very specific on issues and events with respect to covid. this is shit that will force the university to send students home. 

 

https://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/sfl/join_upc_sched.php

Bid Day

Monday, August 24
Hybrid Event
Bid Day Convocation via YouTube Live: 11:00 am
Rho Gamma Galls and Bid Reveal via Zoom: Approx. 11:30 am
Virtual Chapter Celebrations Via Zoom: Approx. 11:30 am – 12:30 pm
Scheduled "Meet and Greets" at the chapter facility: 1:00 pm on

  • Chapter "Meet and Greets"
    • PNMs will be invited to visit the chapter facility in scheduled small groups through the day. During this time you may meet chapter leaders, take a photo, and receive their bid card and a welcome gift. Your chapter will communicate your scheduled time during or after your zoom celebration.
    • Guests (such as parents, family, friends, or alumnae) may not attend "Meet and Greets" at the chapter facility. If a guest wishes to celebrate with a PNM they must do so away from the chapter facility. We encourage all PNMs and their guests to celebrate in responsible and socially distance way such as outdoor meals or walks.
    • At "Meet and Greets" PNMs and chapter representatives will wear masks, and respect physical distancing.
    • Attending "Meet and Greets" is not mandatory. The night prior, PNMs will answer a survey indicating their ability and comfort in visiting the chapter facility in a small group. If you cannot or choose not to attend a "Meet and Greet" you will still be introduced to your organization through your zoom celebration.

 

I suppose that explains why the pic was taken in front of Hard-on House.  Used to be that shit happened in front of the sorority houses.

 

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22 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:


Ok, cool.

We know kids can spread it

We know asymptomatic people can spread it.

My concern is not just we’ll have child fatalities in addition to normal child mortalities.

My concern is that 50 million kids will greatly expand the number of asymptomatic transmissions due to massive increase in touchpoints and range of these asymptomatic carriers, which makes this virus so catastrophic to our society. And to parents and school staff.

I’ll grant you that schools can safely open in places with low community transmission and/or with far superior government interventions and planning.

Quit being a pussy.  We’ve seen about 6 months of this shit.  The world didn’t end.    Didn’t matter if there was a shutdown or otherwise.   There will be spikes of inflection - just like many other viruses.  Staying home doesn’t stop it so let’s just get on with the gettin on.  

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Quit being a pussy.  We’ve seen about 6 months of this shit.  The world didn’t end.    Didn’t matter if there was a shutdown or otherwise.   There will be spikes of inflection - just like many other viruses.  Staying home doesn’t stop it so let’s just get on with the gettin on.  

Ended for plenty of people.

And a lot of people lost their damned minds or exposed they never had one.
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11 hours ago, Knighthawk said:

Quit being a pussy.  We’ve seen about 6 months of this shit.  The world didn’t end.    Didn’t matter if there was a shutdown or otherwise.   There will be spikes of inflection - just like many other viruses.  Staying home doesn’t stop it so let’s just get on with the gettin on.  

It sure the fuck did end for 178k people and the death toll isn't stopping anytime soon. Get out of here with your bullshit.

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Well, California is basically saying Life will never go back to the way things were.

And now it's not even about flattening the curve or reducing hospitalizations...it's about complete eradication of the disease.

 

This is maddening beyond belief.  I cannot conceptualize the fact that this is happening in America. Complete and utter stupidity, with a socialistic iron fist.  

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