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4 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Is this the modelonegrovirus from 2013?  Because I think I had that.  

Can't be worse than the toradatequilavirus from spring of 1990 (serious outbreak, confined to Padre Island area).  Still makes me queasy just thinking about it.

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I don't really know what to say anymore tbh. What happened last night is hard to put into words for anyone who hasn't worked in a hospital healthcare setting. Just unreal. Everyone is getting fucked.

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Meanwhile, the guy next to me just kept coughing directly into his hands (COUGH INTO YOUR ELBOW/ARMPIT YOU DAMN PIG SLOBS) then he handles the jury pay slips as they pass them down. Of course to peel his off, he licks his fingers. Passes them to me, then I pass them to the lady on my right. She then starts fiddling around picking her teeth. 

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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Can't be worse than the toradatequilavirus from spring of 1990 (serious outbreak, confined to Padre Island area).  Still makes me queasy just thinking about it.

Just the smell of tequila will still set me off 20 years after a similar outbreak happened in Matamoros. 

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25 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Just the smell of tequila will still set me off 20 years after a similar outbreak happened in Matamoros. 

PSA No matter how good of an idea it seems at the time DO NOT POUR tequila into a snowcone and drink from it....  Hot, sunburnt, and dehydrated on Smathers Beach. *shudders*

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“A lot of people are staying in our country, and they’re shopping and using our hotels in this country. So from that standpoint, I think probably there’s a positive impact.”

Based on his known business history, there's no way he even has an idea of what the term "net" means, so this statement from him thus makes perfect sense.

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A lot of people in our country are staying at home and using our hotels?   That’s what your president said with a straight face on the precipice of a recession and viral pandemic?   One of you Trump supporters wanna field this one or should we just send it in over to Roscoe?

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A lot of people in our country are staying at home and using our hotels?   That’s what your president said with a straight face on the precipice of a recession and viral pandemic?   One of you Trump supporters wanna field this one or should we just send it in over to Roscoe?

My guess: staying at home = traveling domestically rather than internationally.  

Because if I had a trip planned to Tokyo,  I might decide to go to Seattl..., no, New Y..., um..San Fran...nope.  Des Moines.  I'm going to go to fucking Des Moines instead of Tokyo. 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Can't be worse than the toradatequilavirus from spring of 1990 (serious outbreak, confined to Padre Island area).  Still makes me queasy just thinking about it.

I got this at the same place in '93. Drinking the free cheap tequila at clubs in Matamoros is no bueno. I felt like I had the flu the next day.

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Just the smell of tequila will still set me off 20 years after a similar outbreak happened in Matamoros. 

This. I remember the smell and taste stayed with me throughout the following day as I burnt in the sun on S. Padre. The smell of tequila is still a trigger to this day. Fucking PTSD and shit. I did however have an awesome night so I guess it was worth it.

God, I miss being a college student on Spring Break.

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My guess: staying at home = traveling domestically rather than internationally.  

Because if I had a trip planned to Tokyo,  I might decide to go to Seattl..., no, New Y..., um..San Fran...nope.  Des Moines.  I'm going to go to fucking Des Moines instead of Tokyo. 

Well, you know they say that Des Moines is the Tokyo of, ummm, central Iowa.

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55 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Why are we wasting so much money on a hoax that was going to go away in April when it got warm? I was told the 15 patients here would probably be zero soon anyway. 

 

South Korea, a country 1/6 the size of the USA, just put $20B towards fighting the Corona virus. Plus, they have universal health care here so everyone goes to the doctor here anytime they get an inkling of being ill, so they are probably are catching most of the cases out there and getting them treated ASAP, which is why the mortality rate here is so low compared to other affected countries. They are also extremely community focused which is why everyone is wearing a mask and isolating as much as possible here.  If it ever breaks out big in the USA, it will likely get ugly fast with all the uninsured and under-insured.

A worldwide recession is coming. It is just a matter of how big it becomes. Some companies in Korea have shut down manufacturing because they can't get parts they need from China. It will start happening in the US soon if it hasn't already.  A lot of businesses just closed since nobody is going out much. If the virus ever gets loose in the USA like it has in China and South Korea, we could be looking a depression instead of a recession.

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South Korea, a country 1/6 the size of the USA, just put $20B towards fighting the Corona virus. Plus, they have universal health care here so everyone goes to the doctor here anytime they get an inkling of being ill, so they are probably are catching most of the cases out there and getting them treated ASAP, which is why the mortality rate here is so low compared to other affected countries. They are also extremely community focused which is why everyone is wearing a mask and isolating as much as possible here.  If it ever breaks out big in the USA, it will likely get ugly fast with all the uninsured and under-insured.

A worldwide recession is coming. It is just a matter of how big it becomes. Some companies in Korea have shut down manufacturing because they can't get parts they need from China. It will start happening in the US soon if it hasn't already.  A lot of businesses just closed since nobody is going out much. If the virus ever gets loose in the USA like it has in China and South Korea, we could be looking a depression instead of a recession.

I read earlier today that some maquiladoras were sending workers home, because they weren't getting parts imported from China for assembly. But there's news that some plants in China are beginning to ramp back up production. The problem, of course, is the threat of it spreading over here in North America among American and Mexican workers.

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I actually don’t disagree with his take. I mean, he can’t say anything intelligently, but I agree that the 3.4% is likely high, and the actual number will end up being closer to 1%.

I'm OK with the actual number being one, as long as it's the right one. 

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Nevermind those four bullet points, by far the most disturbing thing he says in that interview is at the very end when he asserts, "It will be very interesting to see what that difference is."  Meaning the delta between number killed in 2020 by the flu and in 2020 by the coronavirus.  He finds this all "very interesting."  As if him and Wilbur Ross have some kinda standing bet on which one will kill the most people.  I wonder what the loser has to do.  

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He'res the deal. The Death rate in the US is as high or higher than anyplace on the globe RIGHT NOW.  This is because of gross incompetence by the CDC from a testing perspective.  There will be many, many more cases on the milder side discovered as testing is more widespread, which will decrease the death rate.  But right now the incompetence of the Trump led CDC at this point is what is spiking the death numbers. 

There has not been a single announcement of actions by the Pence led task force that could not have been taken 3 weeks ago. This is a clusterfuck from the competency side of our government.  Each day Pence and co will have a new conference telling you they did something today that they should have done three weeks ago. 

We just got our shit together somewhat on testing over the weekend.  As a point of reference as to the complete incompetence of this administration one month ago, China had 27,400+ cases on February 5th.  This afternoon watch the new conference of the task force and tell me what they tell you they did today that they could not have easily and reasonably done several weeks ago with little to no effort?

TODAY"S BONUS - LAX Screener tests positive. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/03/04/screener-lax-airport-tests-positive-coronavirus-dhs-says/4907877002/

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The go to work comment is his most dangerous

“A lot of people will have this and it’s very mild. They’ll get better very rapidly. They don’t even see a doctor. They don’t even call a doctor. You never hear about those people. So you can’t put them down in the category of the overall population in terms of this corona flu and/or virus. So you just can’t do that. So, if you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work. Some of them go to work, but they get better.”

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-says-his-coronavirus-response-could-help-not-hurt-his-re-election?ref=home

 

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Over the past week, Democrats and public health experts have excoriated the Trump administration for its response to the novel coronavirus. Outside pundits have wondered whether the handling of the ballooning threat could damage the president’s chance for re-election.

 

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Donald Trump himself appears to have a somewhat unique point of view on the matter. During one of the many White House meetings devoted to the coronavirus in the last week, the president joked that his critics would be “so surprised.” The coronavirus outbreak could actually “help, not hurt” Trump in 2020 because of how “terrific” his team’s handling of the public health crisis has been. The president went on to again congratulate and thank officials present for all the work they’ve done, according to two sources with knowledge of the private remarks.

 

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It’s a view that is widely shared—or at least a political attack line largely disseminated—within Trumpworld, as the president’s management of the ongoing crisis has come under intense scrutiny. “While President Trump proactively combats coronavirus, Democrats campaign to curb Americans’ health care access” with their “Bernie Sanders-inspired, socialist health care agenda,” read a mass email sent by the Trump campaign on Monday.

In the past week, President Trump and officials coordinating with the coronavirus task force have quietly strategized how to best strike back against Democratic criticism that the administration has not done enough to respond to the public-health threat, according to The Daily Beast’s two sources, plus a third with direct knowledge of the deliberations.

 

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Discussions have focused on how growing dissatisfaction among Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill and others in Washington, D.C.—specifically that the administration was underfunding and mismanaging the response—could potentially hurt, or even counterintuitively benefit, Trump’s 2020 re-election prospects.

The White House did not provide comment on this story. 

The efforts to find electoral benefit from the response to the novel coronavirus stem from a fear inside the White House that Democrats would criticize the administration’s handling of the public health threat. If the Democrats were attacking the administration, the officials’ thinking went, then the president was going hit back even more aggressively. 

And so he has. In the last month, as the coronavirus has spread, the president has repeatedly taken to the rally stages, lambasting his perceived nemeses, and alleging that Democrats were hyping the threat and unfairly criticizing the work of the coronavirus task force he had assembled. On Fox News on Wednesday night, Trump claimed that the World Health Organization had also drastically overstated the threat, inventing his own low mortality rate for the virus.

Trump allies and top officials have followed the president’s cue, delivering remarks at last week’s annual Conservative Political Action Conference to echo the talking points on the Democrats’ coronavirus “hoax.”

“Washington Democrats are trying to politicize the coronavirus, denigrating the noble work of our public health professionals, but honestly not so much anymore,” Trump said during a rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, on Monday evening. “The political attacks from some of the Democrats really must stop. We’ve really got to work together on this one to safeguard our people.”

Late last week, the White House blasted out an official talking-points memo to its media allies and surrogates on how “while the President is leading aggressive response and preparation efforts, many in the media remain focused on attacking him at every turn.” The email, a copy of which was reviewed by The Daily Beast, also read: “Blinded by their bias and ignorant to the irony, the [New York] Times is accusing the President of having a ‘credibility’ problem on this issue—while publishing politically-motivated disinformation blaming the President for a virus.”

Publicly, President Trump has already made this messaging a cornerstone of his public remarks and his 2020 campaigning, using the coronavirus to slam Democrats’ immigration policies and insisting that “Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus” and claiming that he isn’t, somehow.

 

 

At the same time, the White House has moved to make major changes in its coronavirus task force, particularly as it pertained to messaging. Trump appointed Vice President Mike Pence to take the lead on streamlining the dissemination of information to the public and installed several other individuals to coordinate response, including global U.S. AIDS coordinator Debbie Brix. 

But the reshuffling of personnel and process sparked tensions inside the task force. Initially, it was unclear who was actually heading the task force, sources told The Daily Beast. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar told a group of reporters after one press conference last week that there was confusion about the vice president’s appointment and that he, in fact, was still the leader. Meanwhile, reporters trying to cover the outbreak tried to place media requests with multiple different task force members. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told The Daily Beast that it would take the agency “days” to respond, in part because all questions were being funneled through the vice president’s office. On Feb. 28, the office appointed a communications official to deal directly with those media inquiries.

Two officials who spoke to The Daily Beast about the changes said although the communications process has smoothed out, there are ongoing rifts between the scientists involved in the task force and the vice president’s office over how and when to release information to the public. One official said the team has tried to balance keeping Americans updated on the latest case numbers, deaths and preparation guidance while at the same time not frightening people. But others on the task force—those in charge of gaming out every scenario if the virus continues to spread and cause more deaths—have argued that the task force should push out information on all the different kinds of situations the public could find themselves in order to help them prepare.

The CDC this week stopped updating the total number of people tested for coronavirus. It’s unclear exactly how the agency decided to remove the data or if it will return in the future. But the agency has suggested the move was made because testing was increasingly being carried out at the state and local level. An official familiar with the task force’s conversations said the CDC was increasingly testing individuals across the U.S. and that it could not update the numbers unless state and local officials submitted their data in a timely manner.

 

 

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“While President Trump proactively combats coronavirus, Democrats campaign to curb Americans’ health care access” with their “Bernie Sanders-inspired, socialist health care agenda,” read a mass email sent by the Trump campaign on Monday.

Man, fuck all these people.

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The go to work comment is his most dangerous

“A lot of people will have this and it’s very mild. They’ll get better very rapidly. They don’t even see a doctor. They don’t even call a doctor. You never hear about those people. So you can’t put them down in the category of the overall population in terms of this corona flu and/or virus. So you just can’t do that. So, if you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work. Some of them go to work, but they get better.”

As long as they work in the White House, and attend meetings in the oval office or in close proximity to Dotard,  I'm good. 

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-says-his-coronavirus-response-could-help-not-hurt-his-re-election?ref=home

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Discussions have focused on how growing dissatisfaction among Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill and others in Washington, D.C.—specifically that the administration was underfunding and mismanaging the response—could potentially hurt, or even counterintuitively benefit, Trump’s 2020 re-election prospects.

The White House did not provide comment on this story. 

The efforts to find electoral benefit from the response to the novel coronavirus stem from a fear inside the White House that Democrats would criticize the administration’s handling of the public health threat. If the Democrats were attacking the administration, the officials’ thinking went, then the president was going hit back even more aggressively. 

And so he has. In the last month, as the coronavirus has spread, the president has repeatedly taken to the rally stages, lambasting his perceived nemeses, and alleging that Democrats were hyping the threat and unfairly criticizing the work of the coronavirus task force he had assembled. On Fox News on Wednesday night, Trump claimed that the World Health Organization had also drastically overstated the threat, inventing his own low mortality rate for the virus.

Trump allies and top officials have followed the president’s cue, delivering remarks at last week’s annual Conservative Political Action Conference to echo the talking points on the Democrats’ coronavirus “hoax.”

“Washington Democrats are trying to politicize the coronavirus, denigrating the noble work of our public health professionals, but honestly not so much anymore,” Trump said during a rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, on Monday evening. “The political attacks from some of the Democrats really must stop. We’ve really got to work together on this one to safeguard our people.”

Late last week, the White House blasted out an official talking-points memo to its media allies and surrogates on how “while the President is leading aggressive response and preparation efforts, many in the media remain focused on attacking him at every turn.” The email, a copy of which was reviewed by The Daily Beast, also read: “Blinded by their bias and ignorant to the irony, the [New York] Times is accusing the President of having a ‘credibility’ problem on this issue—while publishing politically-motivated disinformation blaming the President for a virus.”

Publicly, President Trump has already made this messaging a cornerstone of his public remarks and his 2020 campaigning, using the coronavirus to slam Democrats’ immigration policies and insisting that “Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus” and claiming that he isn’t, somehow.

 

 

At the same time, the White House has moved to make major changes in its coronavirus task force, particularly as it pertained to messaging. Trump appointed Vice President Mike Pence to take the lead on streamlining the dissemination of information to the public and installed several other individuals to coordinate response, including global U.S. AIDS coordinator Debbie Brix. 

But the reshuffling of personnel and process sparked tensions inside the task force. Initially, it was unclear who was actually heading the task force, sources told The Daily Beast. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar told a group of reporters after one press conference last week that there was confusion about the vice president’s appointment and that he, in fact, was still the leader. Meanwhile, reporters trying to cover the outbreak tried to place media requests with multiple different task force members. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told The Daily Beast that it would take the agency “days” to respond, in part because all questions were being funneled through the vice president’s office. On Feb. 28, the office appointed a communications official to deal directly with those media inquiries.

Two officials who spoke to The Daily Beast about the changes said although the communications process has smoothed out, there are ongoing rifts between the scientists involved in the task force and the vice president’s office over how and when to release information to the public. One official said the team has tried to balance keeping Americans updated on the latest case numbers, deaths and preparation guidance while at the same time not frightening people. But others on the task force—those in charge of gaming out every scenario if the virus continues to spread and cause more deaths—have argued that the task force should push out information on all the different kinds of situations the public could find themselves in order to help them prepare.

The CDC this week stopped updating the total number of people tested for coronavirus. It’s unclear exactly how the agency decided to remove the data or if it will return in the future. But the agency has suggested the move was made because testing was increasingly being carried out at the state and local level. An official familiar with the task force’s conversations said the CDC was increasingly testing individuals across the U.S. and that it could not update the numbers unless state and local officials submitted their data in a timely manner.

 

 

That's Trump's business model. Always claim success, even when you fail. 

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Lordy, there are tapes.

 

 

/Trumpkin/ "He didn't say that they should go to work.  He said that a lot of people go to work and get better and it's no big deal ... even though they end up infecting co-workers and causing the quarantine of thousands of others.  So get your story straight, Libtard!"  

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31 minutes ago, Goredho said:

The go to work comment is his most dangerous

“A lot of people will have this and it’s very mild. They’ll get better very rapidly. They don’t even see a doctor. They don’t even call a doctor. You never hear about those people. So you can’t put them down in the category of the overall population in terms of this corona flu and/or virus. So you just can’t do that. So, if you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work. Some of them go to work, but they get better.”

This is the kind of stance that Iran had early on.  Worked out great.  

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42 minutes ago, Goredho said:

The go to work comment is his most dangerous

“A lot of people will have this and it’s very mild. They’ll get better very rapidly. They don’t even see a doctor. They don’t even call a doctor. You never hear about those people. So you can’t put them down in the category of the overall population in terms of this corona flu and/or virus. So you just can’t do that. So, if you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work. Some of them go to work, but they get better.”

His entire approach to the virus is to figure out the best way to contain its effect on the stock market.  That's his only priority, because it's his main argument for re-election.  It will get so many more people killed. 

 

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The world’s first Case of coronavirus was discovered the same day that Trump signed into creation – u.s. space force.  
 

coincidence?  You anti trumpers always fail to see the long game.  

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