CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[Ghost of LL 15500]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Does the Republican party simply attract stupid people, or do people just get stupid once they join the Republican party?

With the departure of the Party's intellectual foundations, it's really just stupid people who are left in it.

[pacman 7339]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I will admit that the cognitive dissonance from the modern Trumpist conservatives still baffles me.

On the one hand, things that are remote threats, unlikely to harm us -- MS-13, scary mooslems, etc. -- well, those things require DRASTIC government action, expenditure of billions, and if you aren't on board with being skeered to death of these things, you hate America.

On the other hand, an actual, documented threat that is killing Americans as we speak, and is statistically all-but-certain to kill many thousands of us (more than we lost in 9/11, Iraq, and Afghanistan combined)....well, let's slow our roll and reactions to this.  Folks like the Montgomery County judge saying "naah, no shelter in place for us," that kind of thing.

In summary, mostly imaginary threats = OMG, BUILD A WALL, check every mooslem, etc.  Real threat of deadly disease = quit your libtard overreaction.

What the fucking fuck is wrong with their fucking logic circuits?  What the fucking fuck?

I am always reminded of the silence after I asked an acquaintance, who was touting the wall to keep out the "illegal Mexicans", who he thinks picked the strawberry he was eating so that it would only cost 2.99 per container.

He was back on fb yesterday with the "playbook" applauding Trump, playing Dems for unaction, and blaming the media for the "panic".

But, I feel the need to keep respectfully picking at these people no matter gow difficult it may be. I need to understand them so that maybe they can be moved someday, to be different.

This political situation/mess in America isnt sustainable. 

Edited March 24, 2020 by pacman

[DigglerontheHoof 21094]

Just asking questions

[Bama Chick 28596]

So, who was behind this?

My money is on Ivanka. She will leak the story behind this to VANITY FAIR to pick up some of her “work” cred.

These turds are so transparent.

[wildcat09 29300]

58 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I will admit that the cognitive dissonance from the modern Trumpist conservatives still baffles me.

On the one hand, things that are remote threats, unlikely to harm us -- MS-13, scary mooslems, etc. -- well, those things require DRASTIC government action, expenditure of billions, and if you aren't on board with being skeered to death of these things, you hate America.

On the other hand, an actual, documented threat that is killing Americans as we speak, and is statistically all-but-certain to kill many thousands of us (more than we lost in 9/11, Iraq, and Afghanistan combined)....well, let's slow our roll and reactions to this.  Folks like the Montgomery County judge saying "naah, no shelter in place for us," that kind of thing.

In summary, mostly imaginary threats = OMG, BUILD A WALL, check every mooslem, etc.  Real threat of deadly disease = quit your libtard overreaction.

What the fucking fuck is wrong with their fucking logic circuits?  What the fucking fuck?

They don't think it will happen to them and they get extremely angry at anything that inconveniences them. I don't think it's anything more than that. 

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

[Captainant 27509]

9 minutes ago, mchookem said:

i've been seeing that and remarked earlier today...the most vocal 'cloak room! cloak room!' police in that thread are very familiar cloak room names lol 🙄

TIL if you get enough negs, you get a free warning applied against your posts too. Neato.

I just don't understand how you can talk about a pandemic as a current event without talking about how the state and national response is being handled. Only hugs and sunshine allowed, any deductive reasoning or informed speculation on previous decisions affecting current outcomes is strictly verboten because it's CR because you said "president".

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

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[Bama Chick 28596]

He’s treating the governors of this country like they’re the Ukrainian President.

All he knows is quid pro quo.

[workswithseed 2042]

34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Can't speak to modern Vietnamese-Americans, but historically there is no love lost between China and "Indochina."  And most Vietnamese-Americans, as well as Cambodian- and Laotian-Americans fled some aspect of a Chinese Communist supported government.  I'm not sure I'd assume that those Asians identify with Chinese or are in any way sympathetic to the Chinese government.

 

Also, I'm afraid that a lot of people that fled Communist regimes (Eastern and Central Europeans, Asians) are quite susceptible to the "socialism" rhetoric. 

It's probably cause they're racist to the Chinese people.

I am gonna go on a limb and say Uyghers, Taiwanese, and most Asians don't fucking like China cause of it's Chinese people. Not because of its communist government that kills its people.

God damn racists.

This isn't actually aimed at you, but damn it's tiring to see the "racist" Chinese Virus comment. 

 

Edited March 24, 2020 by workswithseed

[cactusflinthead 27596]

This soliloquy of self, at a briefing to the nation about desperate hospitals and scarce medical supplies, displayed the utter absence of empathy in the man. In a perverse twist on Bill Clinton’s famous phrase, the nation reels, and Trump cries out: I feel my pain.

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Missing from the podium in the White House briefing room was Tony Fauci, the infectious disease chief from the National Institutes of Health who had criticized Trump in an interview Sunday. Trump on Monday dismissed “the doctors” who would “shut down the entire world” and “keep it shut for a couple of years.”

So this is what it has come to: To preserve political viability, he’s willing to risk the lives of millions

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/23/president-with-no-empathy-exploits-coronavirus-crisis/

[Hugo Stiglitz 23366]

 

[RomaVicta 29834]

24 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Well, that wells thing is right. Did you miss the Boomer meeting in December?

Of course. I got the secret vaccination. There were wagging tails everywhere. We also divvied up the money from the outrageous loans required of college students. 

Actually, I wrote the thing about the student loans as a dark, sympathetic joke. It occurs to me now that I may have identified the boomers who should be strung up. Anybody who voted for or profits by student loans (this included university regents) did something truly wicked. I could attend UT for a year with money earned on a decent summer job. Should be the same now.

[TexArcher 37662]

15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Does the Republican party simply attract stupid people, or do people just get stupid once they join the Republican party?

I once asked if Fox News turned viewers into assholes or if just appealed to people who were already assholes.

Might be both.

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

[DigDug 1666]

6 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

He’s treating the governors of this country like they’re the Ukrainian President.

All he knows is quid pro quo.

 

I'm not even going to click on the video, but I can guarantee you he's lying.  Whatever it is that lousy sonofabitch is talking about, he's lying.

[Loco 3752]

 

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

[henrygandorf 29183]

2 minutes ago, Loco said:

 

oh, florida.  running full speed in the wrong direction, as always.

[bolverk 29474]

6 minutes ago, DigDug said:

I'm not even going to click on the video, but I can guarantee you he's lying.  Whatever it is that lousy sonofabitch is talking about, he's lying.

No shit. I've slowly come to a new personal rule: I'll read his words, but I won't listen to him speak. It's not good for the blood pressure.

Kindly post a transcript later.

[RomaVicta 29834]

1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

With all sincerity, they had such ecstasy when Trump pulled off the greatest upset of all time in 2016, nothing else matters. They are the heroin addict who continues to chase the dragon. They believe they can experience that feeling again. (They can't). Just like a heroin addict, they will OD and destroy everyone around them before they do. 

They need help. 

Has to be it. Like Astros fans and the World Series Championship in a way. Except the Astros don't rob people and cage children.

We have the Wicked Party supported by a large plurality whom they rob on a regular basis and turn the proceeds over to the wealthy. It's like a Monty Python sketch featuring idiots, but this is a malignancy rather than a comedy.

Force of argument is largely useless. Presentation of undeniable proof is largely useless.

Now we get to see if needless death among that plurality impacts their fervor. 

Narrator: It won't.

The plurality will believe what Rush and Hannity and Donald tell them to believe: the libs did it.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20354]

Hillary throwing shade:

 

 

 

[bad_teammate 13182]

hahaha that was an amazing moment

Trump is such an imbecile.

[Dbeasy 15007]

You people got a gif for everything.

[Bullneck 19029]

7 minutes ago, Loco said:

 

Next up: mail in votes for 65 and older.

[immamac 42708]

23 minutes ago, Captainant said:

TIL if you get enough negs, you get a free warning applied against your posts too. Neato.

I just don't understand how you can talk about a pandemic as a current event without talking about how the state and national response is being handled. Only hugs and sunshine allowed, any deductive reasoning or informed speculation on previous decisions affecting current outcomes is strictly verboten because it's CR because you said "president".

It's not really CLOAKROOM, but people are conflating it very easily because of panic and frenzy it's really fucking unfortunate and dumb, but the fact that there is a thread where it won't bother people and one where it is pretty clear that the majority of posters are bothered by it makes it an easy decision. 

[workswithseed 2042]

Just now, Dbeasy said:

 

You people got a gif for everything.

 

[RomaVicta 29834]

1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

If anyone wants to follow the disinformation campaign (no competing viewpoints and zero journalism) - 

 

Mr. President, sir, just how responsible are the do nothing Democrats led by Nervous Nancy and Sleepy Joe?

How much better have you handled this unforeseen invisible Chinese invader than any other administration could?

Should Obama be prosecuted for letting this virus happen?

President Trump, what has your own personal scientific research shown to be the cure for this virus, and please share a cheesy anecdote to illustrate it!

[Loco 3752]

5 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

oh, florida.  running full speed in the wrong direction, as always.

When the red counties burn, The Villages, nursing homes etc...  he's gonna wish he'd done something different.    Florida's economy is NOT built for Social Distancing, perhaps more than any other state.   This is a Faustian deal if there ever was one.

[Loco 3752]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

It's not really CLOAKROOM, but people are conflating it very easily because of panic and frenzy it's really fucking unfortunate and dumb, but the fact that there is a thread where it won't bother people and one where it is pretty clear that the majority of posters are bothered by it makes it an easy decision. 

Frankly if you can't mention State or National responses that other thread is consigned to jokes and where to buy TP.  Almost any serious reporting will bleed into the state/national realm.

 

[immamac 42708]

So be it. If this is the main place you get your covid-19 news then you probably don't give a fuck about stuff happening everywhere else, just in your region.

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[DigglerontheHoof 21094]

trump snowflakes need their safe place (checks thread) post

[Bama Chick 28596]

Part of the reason why we’re in such a shit position is people siloing themselves into information echo chambers.

But by all means.......

[horn4life 3758]

Trump is a Facebook President.

Is he really so fucking stupid that he doesn't think the same gomers that are MAGA all day and all night, are also gonna post about poor Aunt Jenny. on Facebook????  AND the REALITY  through the postings of people touched by coronavirus deaths on facebook means, that they now know more of the names of people being heaped on the "Trump the great scientist BooBoo death pile." And that is gonna change them.  They are gonna get scared ,and they are not gonna go out and spend. Or do you think the snowflakes that complained about Obama golfing are really gonna toss themselves onto the BooBoo heap for Trump? 

I will say it over and over and over again.  You want to get the economy back going, get people tested so they KNOW what the situation around them is.  The virus is too widespread, and it's largely the result of the great scientist BooBoo that is our President.

So there simply are no good choices.  That's why not actually leading from behind is pretty fucking important in reality. In this case it's gonna cost us an economy and $4 trillion in additional debt.

Edited March 24, 2020 by horn4life

[henrygandorf 29183]

not sure why you guys feel the need to push the envelope over there.  i treat that thread as 'read-only' on rare occasions when i go there at all.

not surprising the delicate snowflakes are having their feelings hurt over here.  i assume a similar thing would happen if i went to a bama or clemson football board and started trying to defend longhorn football as equal and/or superior.  they would have every right to laugh me out of the room.

god i miss sports.

[henrygandorf 29183]

2 minutes ago, horn4life said:

I will say it over and over and over again.  You want to get the economy back going, get people tested so they KNOW what the situation around them is.  The virus is too widespread, and it's largely the result of the great scientist BooBoo that is our President.

not sure what the confusion is, there were 4mm tests in the field 2 weeks ago.  the hud secretary told me so.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Problem is, this isn’t football.

Treating like it is is part of the problem.

Everyone else’s subpar coaching won’t infect my team. This shit will.

[GRHorn 105]

2 hours ago, Tuco said:

Right now, today and for the next few weeks, my focus is on the health care workers who are going to be on the front lines of this, quite literally risking their lives to do so.  If they were fire fighters or cops or soldiers, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  We might have the thoughts, but no politician worth a shit would be publicly talking about trading their lives for the sake of the economy.

Once we get past this initial surge, yeah, we'll need to figure out the balance.  Hopefully by then we have more PPE and testing to make it easier to strike a reasonable balance.  But right now, that balance is all towards helping those who are risking their lives to help us.  Any fuck who says differently should be go to an ER in LA or NYC for the next two weeks. 

I’m working very close to the front lines and I think all options need to be considered and we need to be flexible. If in two weeks things are leveling off in areas and testing is ramping then it’d be foolish to not consider loosening things for certain parts of the economy. 

 

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

the entire republican party and the full swath of conservatism has forgotten that the economy is here to serve us, not the other way around. 

Public health would be negatively affected in a serious way by another Great Depression.  Salvaging what we can of the economy is important. Only a fool would say otherwise. 

[Goredho 17368]

43 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Does the Republican party simply attract stupid people, or do people just get stupid once they join the Republican party?

Currently, the Republican party is simply the evil rich recruiting the stupid caucasian poor to fight for the evil rich against everyone else.

 

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

So be it. If this is the main place you get your covid-19 news then you probably don't give a fuck about stuff happening everywhere else, just in your region.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
 

I don't give a shit about the limit on overt political criticism in the other thread.  Its signal to noise ratio has just gotten awfully low for the effort it takes to keep up with it.  It served a useful purpose to me before every information outlet became focused on covid-19.  Now, not at all.

[henrygandorf 29183]

1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:

Problem is, this isn’t football.

Treating like it is is part of the problem.

Everyone else’s subpar coaching won’t infect my team. This shit will.

my post wasn't really about the virus.  it was about trumpkins and their feelings in general.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20354]

Meanwhile, they are self-selecting themselves for extinction. Liberty university is set to welcome back thousands of students this week.  Can't imagine what could go wrong,   when a shit-ton of students, some of whom are asymptomatic who have been all over the country come back and get close to one another.  Falwell could be setting himself up for the mother of all lawsuits.  Hope he emerges bankrupt.

 

 

 

Edited March 24, 2020 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[pyrohornIII 4812]

3 hours ago, lemonlime said:

3 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

I guess it depends on what you consider better, staving off deaths or a stronger economy?

But that's a false choice. We hardly come out of this with a stronger economy if 2 percent of our population dies this spring and summer and our health care system is decimated. At best, reopening things now just slightly delays economic impacts. While people die.

You are right, I should have qualified "stronger."   Meant stronger than if we hadn't shut down and stayed open.    Guess I just should have said "lives or dollars"

2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Yeah, let's fix our problems first.  

Someone mentioned this guy the other day for something.  Anyone remember?

I read that tweet as complete sarcasm.  I didn't go check out his twitter to get a feel for his leanings.  

2 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

No, he didn't shut anything down and he can't open anything back up.

I wonder if he is going to delay signing off on the relief packages until Congress agrees to go along with the Easter thing?   Would be surprised if there are enough votes to override a veto.  

[RomaVicta 29834]

6 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I’m working very close to the front lines and I think all options need to be considered and we need to be flexible. If in two weeks things are leveling off in areas and testing is ramping then it’d be foolish to not consider loosening things for certain parts of the economy. 

 

Public health would be negatively affected in a serious way by another Great Depression.  Salvaging what we can of the economy is important. Only a fool would say otherwise. 

I'd like to see you support those claims rather than merely dismiss opposing views as foolish without hearing them. 

Your closing is just an obvious truth not necessarily affected by what precedes it. Of course, salvaging what we can of the economy is important. So is preserving life. Tell us where you see the balance and back up the speculation about the death rate due to Corona versus that by a Great Depression. Further, show your work on how we arrive at a Great Depression.

Failing to do those things makes your post a parroting of the lackeys who work for Trump or desperately need his coattails come November.

[UDontKnow 10439]

Thoughts and prayers in advance for Liberty University. The fruit definitely did not fall from the tree in regards to junior. I wonder if like his father he received fellatio from a sheep (shout out to Larry Flynt).

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[RomaVicta 29834]

10 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Meanwhile, they are self-selecting themselves for extinction. Liberty university is set to welcome back thousands of students this week.  Can't imagine what could go wrong,   when a shit-ton of students, some of whom are asymptomatic who have been all over the country come back and get close to one another.  Falwell could be setting himself up for the mother of all lawsuits.  Hope he emerges bankrupt.

 

 

 

I would probably not care for many of these people nor many of then care for me, but I don't wish this disease upon them. It sounds terrifying even if you survive it.

Is he counting on God? God created Darwin, you know.

[Bullneck 19029]

5 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Kelly Loeffler?  That Kelly Loeffler?  She has an opinion about Pelosi?  

[TexArcher 37662]

5 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Jesus.  The puppets aren't even allowed to put the talking points into their own words?