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32 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I just don't see how anyone can see this all happening and think "the govt should run healthcare."

Government dysfunction is happening because of you.  Vote for people who want to be good stewards of the government rather than wanting to destroy it and you'll get good governance.  Would you hire Michael Vick to be your local veterinarian?

Aside from that, Medicare and Medicaid are largely unchanged and are handling covid just as well if not better than other insurers.

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47 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Is this a joke? You really have not seen recent video or interviews of the man struggling to compile words? 

I've seen him struggle with words.  Sometimes.  It's odd -- people like you make it sound like it's a permanent condition, but it's not.  Hmmm.  

How would you rate Trump's elocution relative to Biden's?  Be honest, now.

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12 minutes ago, Continental Op said:

Trump is horrible so all government must be horrible!  Good grief.. Fuck off back to farmersonly.com you stupid hayseed cunt.

I hear that all other governments are like the Scandinavian ones. They're so much better. Get the fuck out of here, I'm glad you like Daddy Trump sticking his small hands down your asshole to see if you got cancer. I say fuck that.

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1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

I hear that all other governments are like the Scandinavian ones. They're so much better. Get the fuck out of here, I'm glad you like Daddy Trump sticking his small hands down your asshole to see if you got cancer. I say fuck that.

You know the difference between health care and health care insurance, right?  Do you know which one we're talking about?

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3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Who needs Wikileaks when you have Trump propaganda hour every day. 

Almost nobody is carrying these pressers anymore.  None of the networks carry them live.  And CNN is now only doing the parts where Fauci or Blix is on.

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37 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I didn't even mention Bernie Sanders. You guys have mental problems.

I think it's pretty clear that either Sanders or Warren would fight against the corporate influence in government that allowed this awful system we have that is killing people. And I think it's also clear that Biden will not. In fact, I bet almost none of you disagree with me on this.

It's pretty funny to see you guys doing the exact same thing as the Daily Texan posters. You only want political chat when it's yelling at Republicans. They only want political chat when it's yelling at Democrats.

Sure, but that's not what I was talking about.

I said: "Absolutely nothing will happen to profiteers or even the industries that enabled them. Democratic Primary voters have made sure of that."

And I'm right.

Joe Biden will not pursue profiteers or the industries that enabled them. You're correct about a return to "traditional function", which will be to strip everything they can to the bone for private equity profits.

You can like that, I guess, but it's true.

Are we supposed to pretend like it's not?

Lol.  Thanks for actually writing out  ‘And I’m right’...as if that isn’t implied in all your posts.  
 

Please, retired wise white boomer, won’t you regale us with more tales, showing off your superior intellect?  

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2 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I hear that all other governments are like the Scandinavian ones. They're so much better. Get the fuck out of here, I'm glad you like Daddy Trump sticking his small hands down your asshole to see if you got cancer. I say fuck that.

Oddly specific.

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why the journalists ask trump or pence any questions is beyond me. they should direct their sole attention, once trump gets done with his soliloquy to dr. fauci and dr. birx.

they should have realized by now that asking trump any question is fucking worthless. 

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1 minute ago, hayden_horn said:

why the journalists ask trump or pence any questions is beyond me. they should direct their sole attention, once trump gets done with his soliloquy to dr. fauci and dr. birx.

they should have realized by now that asking trump any question is fucking worthless. 

They should not air until the Q&A and then only ask Dr Fauci questions. That will end these press conferences right quick.

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6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

So when Trump says making entertainment and lunches tax deductible he's talking about strip clubs, right?  I was worried about the economy and all of these deaths from Corona Virus but if I can take clients to lunch and strip clubs and its tax deductible well that should solve all the problems in the world.

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2 hours ago, TornACL said:

That's an incredibly broad statement there. 

Well, implicit in the phrase "I can't point to a single one" is a recognition that I simply may be ignorant. But hosts of American companies have tried to "do Lean," and they figure out some basics like batch sizes, queuing theory, etc., but never get far enough for it to really take, because they cannot reshape their culture and the mindset of their workforce (from top to bottom).

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Yes, I meant JIT.

I don't know what you mean by "in the political arena", but lean management/JIT supply chains are huge in the private health industry in the endless pursuit of profit.

I just meant that it's odd to me to see Lean show up in a political discussion. For me, Lean is a subject I've been studying as a complete amateur for a few years, and I've never observed it come up in any political discussion. At any rate, I am aware of a fairly substantial undertaking starting in the 90s to bring Lean management to our private health industry, but I've been reading some of Jim Womack's literature on their efforts to improve many industries, including health care... and he seems to paint a rather grim portrayal of actual real world success here in the States (and elsewhere). One of my favorite quotes of his goes something like this: "everyone knows the words to the new song, but few can carry the tune."

I've got a strong appreciation for the subject, I suppose my impulse was sparked from a feeling of, "hey, don't throw a baby out with the bathwater." Lean principles would help this country quite a bit. But the circumstances that allowed it to emerge at Toyota in the 50s would be considered toxic (and downright "socialistic") here.

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6 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

The fuck is he even talking about "deductions for corporations?"  It's deductible now, even for LLCs.

He's talking about Facebook.  It's nice.  

if you really want to throw him off, you have to spend the first half of a question complimenting his popularity.

"mr president, i saw that you were the number one most popular trending topic on facebook today, something not even barack obama could ever claim, and would you say that your reaction to this crisis is worse than anyone could've possibly imagined when they made the horrid decision to vote for you in 2016?"

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

y'all, I can't tell if this April fools, but I don't think it is:

 

Today I learned this is a thing. 
 

Moreno has been charged with one count of train wrecking, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office. The charge carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in federal prison

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I mean yup. The bad info out of China is why this administration still hasn’t nationalized the medical supply chain. Surely not an inability or unwillingness to lead. It’s China’s fault. Somehow South Korea handled things differently tho. No matter. 200,000 dead Americans would be a great success 

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38 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

if you really want to throw him off, you have to spend the first half of a question complimenting his popularity.

"mr president, i saw that you were the number one most popular trending topic on facebook today, something not even barack obama could ever claim, and would you say that your reaction to this crisis is worse than anyone could've possibly imagined when they made the horrid decision to vote for you in 2016?"

I'm out of rep, but this is good. Can the powers that be at Surly get you credentials for a press pass? I think if you're willing to brave DC, you can take a list of questions from Surly posters and make history.

 

I missed almost the entire press briefing tonight. Did the doctors ever appear or was this the "time to talk about a little lite war" briefing?

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6 minutes ago, TheRealRonWeaver? said:


Serious question: Knowing China lied and lies and covers up, how does that help us right now? Besides deflecting the blame for our own shit leadership?

IT IS THE FAULT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR NOT BEING PREPARED TO DEFEND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM THIS SHIT.  

China sucks but just imagine how vulnerable we are to a real biological weapon that behaves in a similar way as COVID-19?  Like, we should totally have our bases covered on that regardless of Chinese government efforts in misleading or covering-up.  It is on US to defend ourselves and this episode has been a total fucking fail. 

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17 minutes ago, TheRealRonWeaver? said:


Serious question: Knowing China lied and lies and covers up, how does that help us right now? Besides deflecting the blame for our own shit leadership?

party of personal responsibility!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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