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What a sad, look at me type asshole. By that same rational, every member of Congress who authorized the stimulus checks should get to put their names in the memo area. 
It's such a fucking aggy thing to do. He is an unbelievably small man.
It sucks.  She was a recluse.  Not in the best of health, not terrible either,  but not that old (mid 60’s).  It appears, and we’ll never know any different, that she drowned in her own bodily fluids, by herself, alone.
It's a terrible way to go, and a terrible way to lose someone. It must be even more difficult with the issues surrounding gathering as a family. Again, I'm really sorry.
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I'd just like to point out that neither myself nor any of my fellow nurses, fellow advanced nurse practitioners, and other healthcare providers ever swore an oath that we would lay down our lives for

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Welp, it finally happened. I snapped in public today. I went into work for a bit this morning because I’m trying to figure out the safest way to host physicians we are recruiting given our CV-19 sit

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I don't really know what to say anymore tbh. What happened last night is hard to put into words for anyone who hasn't worked in a hospital healthcare setting. Just unreal. Everyone is getting fucked.

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Negative results from open-label randomized trial of HCQ. (note pre-print, this is not peer reviewed.)

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20060558v1

Participants 150 patients hospitalized with COVID-19. 75 patients were assigned to HCQ plus SOC and 75 were assigned to SOC alone (control group).

Interventions HCQ was administrated with a loading dose of 1, 200 mg daily for three days followed by a maintained dose of 800 mg daily for the remaining days (total treatment duration: 2 or 3 weeks for mild/moderate or severe patients, respectively). 

Main outcome measures The primary endpoint was the 28-day negative conversion rate of SARS-CoV-2. The assessed secondary endpoints were negative conversion rate at day 4, 7, 10, 14 or 21, the improvement rate of clinical symptoms within 28-day, normalization of C-reactive protein and blood lymphocyte count within 28-day. Primary and secondary analysis was by intention to treat. Adverse events were assessed in the safety population.

Results The overall 28-day negative conversion rate was not different between SOC plus HCQ and SOC group (Kaplan-Meier estimates 85.4% versus 81.3%, P=0.341). Negative conversion rate at day 4, 7, 10, 14 or 21 was also similar between the two groups. No different 28-day symptoms alleviation rate was observed between the two groups.

daily @triplehorn well check. 

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Negative results from open-label randomized trial of HCQ.

Participants 150 patients hospitalized with COVID-19. 75 patients were assigned to HCQ plus SOC and 75 were assigned to SOC alone (control group).

Interventions HCQ was administrated with a loading dose of 1, 200 mg daily for three days followed by a maintained dose of 800 mg daily for the remaining days (total treatment duration: 2 or 3 weeks for mild/moderate or severe patients, respectively). 

Main outcome measures The primary endpoint was the 28-day negative conversion rate of SARS-CoV-2. The assessed secondary endpoints were negative conversion rate at day 4, 7, 10, 14 or 21, the improvement rate of clinical symptoms within 28-day, normalization of C-reactive protein and blood lymphocyte count within 28-day. Primary and secondary analysis was by intention to treat. Adverse events were assessed in the safety population.

Results The overall 28-day negative conversion rate was not different between SOC plus HCQ and SOC group (Kaplan-Meier estimates 85.4% versus 81.3%, P=0.341). Negative conversion rate at day 4, 7, 10, 14 or 21 was also similar between the two groups. No different 28-day symptoms alleviation rate was observed between the two groups.

daily @triplehorn well check. 

At least no one died from it in that study, so that's progress I guess

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1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

At least no one died from it in that study, so that's progress I guess

Take it to the shart thread.

Adverse events were found in 8.8% of SOC and 30% of HCQ recipients with two serious adverse events. The most common adverse event in the HCQ recipients was diarrhea (10%). 

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9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Take it to the shart thread.

Adverse events were found in 8.8% of SOC and 30% of HCQ recipients with two serious adverse events. The most common adverse event in the HCQ recipients was diarrhea (10%). 

That's probably a lower rate than Trump Steaks caused.

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28 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Oh for fucks sake:

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/trump-radio-show-rush-limbaugh.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

 

 

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No one in the room was sure how to respond, two of the officials said. Someone suggested hosting the show in the mornings or on weekends, to steer clear of the conservative radio host’s schedule. But Mr. Trump shook his head, saying he envisioned his show as two hours a day, every day. And were it not for Mr. Limbaugh, and the risk of encroaching on his territory, he reiterated, he would do it.

One of the officials involved directly in the effort said it wasn’t the first time Mr. Trump had discussed hosting a radio show from the White House. But if some in the room were unsure whether the president’s proposal was a joke, they knew his deference to Mr. Limbaugh was anything but.

When it comes to the president’s favored media figures, most observers tend to fixate on the Fox News lineup of Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity. But several people close to Mr. Trump say that in the midst of a pandemic, he has come to keenly appreciate the extent of Mr. Limbaugh’s reach, and the fact that his show, perhaps more than any other source, offers a real-time metric of how the president’s decisions are playing with his supporters.

Now, as multiple voices vie for the president’s ear on the appropriate timeline for America’s path to normalcy, Mr. Limbaugh is amplifying Mr. Trump’s instinct for swiftness. And for this president, as well as much of his party, Mr. Limbaugh’s affirmation remains a powerful motivator.

“Talk radio is still a powerhouse when it comes to Republican voters,” said Jason Miller, co-host of the War Room podcast and a former Trump communications adviser. And the president, Mr. Miller said, “realizes how big a powerhouse Rush is.”

The White House declined to comment on Mr. Trump’s desire for a radio show.

“The Rush Limbaugh Show” has been the most popular talk-radio show in the country for decades, currently drawing 15.5 million listeners a week. In that time Mr. Limbaugh has traded in the kind of deeply divisive messaging that Mr. Trump regularly brandishes to appeal to his conservative base.

Like the president, Mr. Limbaugh has also dispensed disinformation and falsehoods at a rapid clip. In the last few weeks alone he has repeatedly referred to the coronavirus as the “common cold.” His history of anti-gay remarks was revived as recently as February, when he said Americans would not elect Pete Buttigieg after seeing him “kissing his husband onstage, next to Mr. Man, Donald Trump.” (Mr. Limbaugh later told listeners that Mr. Trump had called him and told him not to apologize for the comments.)

Mr. Limbaugh is among Mr. Trump’s most influential backers, praising him for his politics and leadership well before many other Republicans cast their lot with him. He recently called attacks on the president’s handling of the virus crisis “a political hit job.” The president has returned the favor: In a surprise move during his State of the Union address in February, he awarded Mr. Limbaugh, who had recently revealed he had late-stage lung cancer, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor. He highlighted Mr. Limbaugh’s charitable work and called him “the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet.”

As public health officials urge caution in relaxing stay-at-home restrictions, corporate executives and conservative activists alike are pleading with the president to reopen the economy. Mr. Trump has argued that he alone has the power to override stay-at-home orders imposed at the state level — a claim that legal scholars reject and that he appeared to walk back on Tuesday. Still, many Republican governors are looking directly to the White House to set the tone for a path forward.

As for his own guidance, Mr. Trump’s preferred media sources have tempered their advocacy. After initially dismissing the severity of the virus, many of Mr. Trump’s go-to talkers on Fox News, including Mr. Hannity, have approached the question with relative delicacy, appearing to take their cues from the president rather than try to proactively urge one path or another.

Mr. Limbaugh, conversely, has been a forceful voice from the get-go. Along with casting medical experts like Dr. Anthony S. Fauci as “Hillary Clinton sympathizers,” he has used his enormous platform to call for a rapid return to normal life.

“Are we just going to sit by and watch $22 trillion — that’s the value, that’s the sum total of the G.D.P., that’s the U.S. economy — are we just going to sit by here and watch it evaporate?” Mr. Limbaugh said in one segment on March 31. “Because that’s what we’re doing, under the guise of not losing any unnecessary life.”

On Monday, Mr. Limbaugh argued that the “shutdown” was “a political effort to get rid of Donald Trump in the election this November” — as well as a Democratic ploy to “keep people fed without them having to go to work” and to “fine them for going to church.

Mr. Limbaugh, a frequent golf partner of Mr. Trump’s in Palm Beach, Fla., has been candid and proud about his direct line to the president. During his show on Friday, Mr. Limbaugh revealed that the president calls him “once a week just to see how I’m doing” and that sometimes Vice President Mike Pence joins. He added that their conversations were only about his health, not policy. (Attempts to reach Mr. Limbaugh through a colleague for this article were unsuccessful.)

But in this moment, as Mr. Trump grapples with what he has called “the biggest decision I’ve ever had to make,” Mr. Limbaugh has an unparalleled perch.

“A lot of politicians — obviously conservatives — tune into his show as they’re trying to figure out what their point of view should be,” said Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union.

Mr. Schlapp noted that with most decisions, the president uses various media sources as a way to “think through questions.” And while the president is listening to his public health advisers in this moment, Mr. Schlapp said, he’s also adhering to the formulas he knows best.

“The school nurse doesn’t run the school,” Mr. Schlapp said. “The principal runs the school.”

Polling shows that the vast majority of Americans support a national stay-at-home order, but Mr. Limbaugh’s audience — in other words, the president’s base — shares his agitation about jump-starting the economy. His recent shows illustrate the extent to which many of Mr. Trump’s supporters remain suspicious of the public health experts and other officials who have recommended stay-at-home orders and similar guidelines to slow transmission of the virus.

“I agree the right person is in office to bring this country out of this,” said a Las Vegas police officer named Marcus who called into Mr. Limbaugh’s show on Monday. “But, you know, when you look at numbers, Rush — the numbers don’t add up as far as, like, you know, the amount of people that die of a normal flu every year and those sort of things. I mean, it’s terrifying how one thing can make us give up our rights so quickly.”

On Friday, a caller from Prescott, Ariz., wondered if experts were urging the shutdown of the economy as a way to model the potential effects of legislation intended to combat climate change. “Isn’t this kind of like a dry run of the Green New Deal?” he asked.

In the midst of everything, Mr. Limbaugh’s listeners unequivocally support the president. On Friday, a New York construction worker named Andy criticized the transformation of Manhattan into a “ghost town,” and said, “There is no better man to be in the White House right now than Donald Trump.”

It is the kind of affirmation that helps illuminate radio’s increasing appeal to Mr. Trump. Television indeed plays an outsize role in the president’s assessment of himself and his administration. But with no campaign rallies to look forward to, people close to the president say he feels stifled in his inability to communicate directly with his supporters, complaining that the news media tries to distort his message at his daily briefings.

The president may have dropped plans for his own talk radio show. But for Mr. Trump, what Mr. Limbaugh offers is perhaps second best: a taste of the validation he craves, as well as a blueprint for how to make his supporters even happier.

“Rush is perfectly confident and competent to play the outsider to the system,” said Kellyanne Conway, the White House counselor. “In that way, he and the president learn from each other.”

 

I mentioned it here or on the Trump thread.  In the Dirty Money episode about Kushner, it said when he bought the NY Observer, it became clear that he viewed the paper and media in general as nothing more than personal advertising.  It could either help your image or hurt it, nothing more.  It was mentioned that this was something he and his FIL had strongly in common.

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4 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

So maybe the decline in new positive cases is really being driven by the decline in testing?  lol

Then start watching the death toll. The country experienced a spike yesterday and that is still the case without the 3700 deaths NY added that were presumed COVID+ but unable to be verified. It doesn't matter how Trump and his crony grifters try to adjust the optics, it will be a long time before the country reaches a semblance of normalcy, and it's all on Trump. Couldn't have happened to a nicer President.

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as long as were monday morning quarterbacking why chart how many more deaths would have occurred if Trump would have listened to the feckless democrats about the China travel ban being racist and xenophobic.   Oh thats right , none of this predictions have been close to right so I'll just make it up and say 60 thousand. 60 thousand peoples blood on the hands of pelosi and biden

You people are fucking ghouls

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13 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

It sucks.  She was a recluse.  Not in the best of health, not terrible either,  but not that old (mid 60’s).  It appears, and we’ll never know any different, that she drowned in her own bodily fluids, by herself, alone.

That's rough. GF had an aunt that died in a similar fashion.  She lived in the middle of NYC.   The coroner estimated that she'd been dead 6 weeks before her body was discovered. 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, SneezyB said:

as long as were monday morning quarterbacking why chart how many more deaths would have occurred if Trump would have listened to the feckless democrats about the China travel ban being racist and xenophobic.   Oh thats right , none of this predictions have been close to right so I'll just make it up and say 60 thousand. 60 thousand peoples blood on the hands of pelosi and biden

You people are fucking ghouls

Please list all the dem politicians who called it racist? 

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Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Stimulus checks have officially hit here and it's a shit show with so many people wondering why they didn't get it and we have no answers. We are having fun.

Our $2,400 showed up in my checking account overnight.

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13 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

Well, the Collin County ME doesn’t want to do one, and my father and uncle aren’t likely to press the issue.  Do with that what you will.  They are in the process of transporting her directly to the funeral home.

Damnit. So sorry for your family's loss. Thank you very much though for sharing the story. It's important to remember that behind each of the "numbers", so many are impacted. RIP.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Wait, she's trying to convince people this is the 19th iteration of it or what?  I refuse to watch those clips.

Yes.  If she can convince the Fox News watchers, and Gary Johnson voters, that this is the 19th iteration of COVID - it makes it much more likely that they'd have no problem accepting that this is Obama's fault for not having enough tests ready. 

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3 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Yes.  If she can convince the Fox News watchers, and Gary Johnson voters, that this is the 19th iteration of COVID - it makes it much more likely that they'd have no problem accepting that this is Obama's fault for not having enough tests ready. 

I love the Obama angle...Trump's been president for over 3 years yet it's Obama's fault for not creating a test to detect a virus strain that didn't exist until the end of 2019.

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2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I love the Obama angle...Trump's been president for over 3 years yet it's Obama's fault for not creating a test to detect a virus strain that didn't exist until the end of 2019.

But we're still supposed to give Trump credit for the greatest economy we've ever seen.

They accept all credit and deflect all blame. It's the Republican creed.

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5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Our $2,400 showed up in my checking account overnight.

Same with us and it looks like the vast majority did get them, but we have quite a few people that are ACH deposits on their IRS refund that haven't gotten their's and they were really relying on getting it today. Overall it seems like a mess with a lack of communication from the government on these checks and their timing. I work in an impoverished side of town so it gets a bit chaotic when checks don't hit as expected.

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as long as were monday morning quarterbacking why chart how many more deaths would have occurred if Trump would have listened to the feckless democrats about the China travel ban being racist and xenophobic.   Oh thats right , none of this predictions have been close to right so I'll just make it up and say 60 thousand. 60 thousand peoples blood on the hands of pelosi and biden
You people are fucking ghouls

Aggy anger manifesting here after not being able to claim spring game national championship
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17 minutes ago, SneezyB said:

as long as were monday morning quarterbacking why chart how many more deaths would have occurred if Trump would have listened to the feckless democrats about the China travel ban being racist and xenophobic.   Oh thats right , none of this predictions have been close to right so I'll just make it up and say 60 thousand. 60 thousand peoples blood on the hands of pelosi and biden

You people are fucking ghouls

It never happened.  Find me a single Pelosi or Biden statement that said it.  Don't post that Biden tweet because if that is what you are referring to, you have zero reading comprehension or understanding of context.  The democrats (at least among leadership, maybe a Rep here or there) did not criticize the travel restrictions (it wasn't a ban, either, and 10s of thousands continued to pour in from China).  The more you idiots say it doesn't somehow make it come true.  

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1 minute ago, Grade of D as in David said:

But we're still supposed to give Trump credit for the greatest economy we've ever seen.

They accept all credit and deflect all blame. It's the Republican creed.

That may be GOP SOP, but Trump is the absolute master of gaslighting.  Every failure is someone else’s fault.  Every success is his own.  And oh, how they persecute him!  All those meanies jealous of his genius and his munificence. They just want to see him fail.  If his followers suffer, it is only because Trump’s detractors want them to suffer and not because he’s robbing them blind and fucking them over to satisfy his own narcissistic lust for power, adulation, and money.  No, no.  It is the critics’ fault! The heretics! The unbelievers!

We elected Jim Jones to the presidency.  It’s a sad fact of human nature that so many of us are so fucking stupid and gullible that we routinely fall prey to obvious con artists.  

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6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

We got ours Monday and a decent chunk will go to defeating Dotard in November. 

Yeah, I'm not sure what the optics would be...but there's gotta be some kinda way without giving up personal tax information...where Americans could post that they turned around their stimulus check and used it to oppose Trump in 2020, be it to Biden directly, or a PAC, or to oppose McConnell or something like that.  But some sorta little asterisk where next to your donations on the FEC sites, you can sorta indicate it was only because of the money you got with Trump's signature on it to be used against him.  There's gotta be a way to do that. 

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