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I'd just like to point out that neither myself nor any of my fellow nurses, fellow advanced nurse practitioners, and other healthcare providers ever swore an oath that we would lay down our lives for

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Welp, it finally happened. I snapped in public today. I went into work for a bit this morning because I’m trying to figure out the safest way to host physicians we are recruiting given our CV-19 sit

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I don't really know what to say anymore tbh. What happened last night is hard to put into words for anyone who hasn't worked in a hospital healthcare setting. Just unreal. Everyone is getting fucked.

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23 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'm definitely not the expert in this area but I have started to encounter more and more "news" websites that are impossible to tell how or where they are structured or located. And while it's very easy to disagree with a Fox News, OANN or local Sinclair station at least you have some idea what they're about. 

Agree completely. Over a decade ago I was noticing a trend with "foundations," and other entities being very vague with regards to funding, people, etc. It was incredibly frustrating. Prior to that, many websites would have a robust "About" section or have information available that was easy to source. It was invaluable with respect to connecting relationships such as the one Clifton Thomas had with Rick Perry prior to becoming a regent at Texas A&M. (He donated $250,000 a quarter for a full year to Texans for Rick Perry----Quid pro quo baby!). When you combined that with Muckety, (prior to its demise), it was very useful and very illuminating.

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Oh, fun!

 

COVID-19 is just like our President. Full of NASTY surprises.

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16 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I've been to Sweden. They practice social distancing as a standard. I got chewed out because I was standing too close to someone at a bus stop. Of course my friend had to translate for me, but I got the gist. They're a strange culture.

Yeah, they are a pretty "cold" culture compared to the Southern Europeans like Espana and Italy.

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5 minutes ago, F250 said:

Yeah, they are a pretty "cold" culture compared to the Southern Europeans like Espana and Italy.

Just think, our protests against restrictions, are not people showing that they can stand safely apart from each other in a reasonable manner to help with the economy and the spread of disease. Instead the protests show how people stand right next to each other yelling without masks. we're in bizarro world.

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Twitter is worth all the bullshit because it occasionally amplifies absolute gold like this. 

 

I was talking to a banker at wells fargo yesterday and she said that they were offering that option, to just take the next three months and move them to the end as an extension.  Same logic this guy is using.   Wonder why we aren't seeing that publicized more?  She said all loans and mortgages.  

I think maybe the banks and creditors are continuing the course they are on so they can re-po, gobble up all the equity people have, then re-finance those properties back to them.  That doesn't work well with car leases, but I am sure they have ways to grift on those too.  

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2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Can we track down the sphincter this turd fell out of and cauterize it?

And Bill Barr is disturbingly close to a simpering toadie for an incompetent evil regime.  Wait, scratch that - he's not close, that's exactly what he fucking is.

He's not a piece of shit.  Pieces of shit are actually a by-product of something that once benefited a human's existence.  Bill Barr has zero association with any benefit to any human's existence.  He is poison in, poison out.

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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

The mayor of Las Vegas is on CNN right now and holy shit. We are so fucked. Wants all casinos and hotels opened but when asked what they would do to ensure social distancing she says “well that’s up to the casinos, I don’t own a casino”. Holy fuck

Well, at gambling is on brand for Vegas...let's roll the dice and see what happens..."come on lady luck!"

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7 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Well, at gambling is on brand for Vegas...let's roll the dice and see what happens..."come on lady luck!"

Sky Masterson: "One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not yet broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an ear full of cider."

Luck be a lady, tonight....

 

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31 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Oh my Lord, I love him! The name on his jacket on the left, is it Vito? He's like Vinny Gambini amped up and with dangerously high blood pressure. Fight for the little guy, Vito!

He gets so fired up during his rant that he has to unzip his jacket a bit to let out some steam.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Oh, the Christian thing is another one.  That they use "Christianity" as a weapon, and do so in a manner that is literally the OPPOSITE of the Gospels at almost every turn, is fucking offensive beyond belief.

So I get to hate the GOP both politically AND theologically.  And morally.  And ethically.  And fuck it, aesthetically (the gaudy flag-waving bullshit is just tacky).  It's hard to find a way I don't loathe them.  I dunno, I appreciate how they co-opt hot bimbos to sell their bullshit on Fox News.  So, a little shamelessly sexist respek.

Their brand of Christianity just allows them to believe that you're going to hell why they aren't. If you have to have a little Covid waterboarding along the way, it's all God's plan. 

Sick fucks unlike any Christians I call friends.

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1 hour ago, Mo Horn said:

Found this interesting. I think some reopening would be possible if we followed this model, or at least some of it. The problem is Americans would never adhere to these limits. We've already seen it when some beaches were opened. Within a week there would be zero social distancing. There's no way we follow rules appropriately enough to do what needs to be done.

Thanks for that. I think Americans would comply in the right circumstances. The key for Sweden would seem to be found in the closing of the video (love that woman, BTW): people have confidence in government which is followed by a government issued science statement that the results are not yet conclusive. You can more easily trust a person or government that you know will admit and abandon an error.

People like to pitch in during a crisis. I sense the increased goodwill among people when I go out to the grocery or just drive around. I think people would take pride in following Sweden's example if they were getting a credible, unbiased flow of information.

As I opined earlier, we can't even have an intelligent discussion about reopening because one side has turned the issue into a partisan crusade. Such noise makes it difficult for the adults and sane to comb over possible solutions. 

We have achieved a thorough going Idiot World run by an idiot. Remove that tyranny and maybe we could get somewhere.

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2 hours ago, Tuco said:

They still pretend to be Christian and fiscally conservative.  It's slogans, not reality.  

fiscal conservative is just a slogan.  the closest thing i can think of it actually meaning is a general inclination to cut programs other than military spending, which will increase at 2x the rate of the cuts to other programs. 

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

Oh, fun!

 

Now all the youngs hoping this would kill the olds can be turned into olds themselves via stroke. *

Holy shit! It's an irony virus! No wonder the GOPs and Aggies don't understand it.

 

*And because this shit is serious, I will make it clear that this is horrible news during an already horrible plague. I wish it on no one. But if only one person has to get it, I nominate.....

 

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Twitter is worth all the bullshit because it occasionally amplifies absolute gold like this. 

 

The Roman commoners used to elect Tribunes of the Plebs who were the voice of the people and could veto acts of the Patrician senate. This guy would be a great fucking Tribune of the Plebs. Vic may be a descendant of one. Great stuff. Great stuff.

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40 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

The mayor of Las Vegas is on CNN right now and holy shit. We are so fucked. Wants all casinos and hotels opened but when asked what they would do to ensure social distancing she says “well that’s up to the casinos, I don’t own a casino”. Holy fuck

I love me some gambling but no way in hell would I stand at a craps table right now. 

This would be a good time for the NV and NJ casinos to petition the feds to allow them to temporarily allow internet gaming tables and slot machines as long as the casino has a valid state license. While that doesn't help the casino workers, it does help to keep the casinos and hotels viable once they should be open.

And yes, the Vegas mayor is nuts if she thinks vacationers and convention goers are showing up soon. I think very few will which will not allow hotels to fully open.

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The epidemiologists are still researching the R0 value for COVID, but the last number I saw from around March was anywhere from 2.0-5.7, depending upon the data source (the higher number was from Emerging Infectious Diseases). By comparison, the seasonal flu is around 1.2, H1N1 is 1.4-1.6, measles is 12-18.

I guess the mayor figures the people will come and spend their money and take the microbes with them when they leave, so not her problem. As to the workers and getting sick, also not her problem. This, "I take no responsibility," thing is kinda like a virus, too.

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32 minutes ago, elfenix said:

fiscal conservative is just a slogan.  the closest thing i can think of it actually meaning is a general inclination to cut programs other than military spending, which will increase at 2x the rate of the cuts to other programs. 

How can you say that?  Our military didn't even have ammunition until Trump saved us.  They were over there throwing stones and recycling cannon shot.  It is only because of American exceptionalism that the Wagner Group (Russia's Blackwater) got their asses handed to them.  

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29 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I love me some gambling but no way in hell would I stand at a craps table right now. 

This would be a good time for the NV and NJ casinos to petition the feds to allow them to temporarily allow internet gaming tables and slot machines as long as the casino has a valid state license. While that doesn't help the casino workers, it does help to keep the casinos and hotels viable once they should be open.

And yes, the Vegas mayor is nuts if she thinks vacationers and convention goers are showing up soon. I think very few will which will not allow hotels to fully open.

In times of desperation, this sounds like a recipe for disaster through mass gambling disorder.

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gambling-disorder/what-is-gambling-disorder

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8 minutes ago, huge said:

but wait

 

Is every billionaire really a policy failure?

What about the ones that vote D?

(ducks out with the quickness)

If you view the existence of billionaires to be the exemplification of extreme income inequality, brought about basic failures in our policies, the answer is yes. It doesn't necessarily mean that billionaires are horrible people.  

I don't view it that way, but I can understand why some would. 

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

The mayor of Las Vegas is on CNN right now and holy shit. We are so fucked. Wants all casinos and hotels opened but when asked what they would do to ensure social distancing she says “well that’s up to the casinos, I don’t own a casino”. Holy fuck

Well at least he's in a town that keeps to itself and doesn't have a lot of outside visitors going in and out.

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Did they pull some ol drunk hag off the strip and just say, here you go sweetheart, now you're the mayor?

Her husband was mayor of Las Vegas for 12 years I think and is connected with the mob.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

Her husband was mayor of Las Vegas for 12 years I think and is connected with the mob.

 

 

If my memory serves correctly, I believe that Vegas' mayor has very little authority and is basically just a city council member at large. The city manager runs the city govt like Austin or Dallas, unlike Houston.

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

I know Trump gets massive donations from casino owners.  I bet she does as well.  

She's the wife of semi-mob lawyer Oscar Goodman, who by most accounts was a pretty good mayor.  She kind of inherited the position, but I'm sure she's beholden to the Winns of the world.

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https://www.texasobserver.org/east-texas-coronavirus-chicken/

"Though some meatpacking facilities are in urban and suburban areas, many are clustered in rural areas, places that experts have warned are particularly ill-equipped to deal with COVID-19 outbreaks. In Texas, more than one-fifth of the state’s 254 counties have just one doctor or none at all. At least 20 rural hospitals have closed since 2013—all in East Texas. Shelby County has been without a hospital since it closed that year. Residents have traveled nearly 40 minutes to the hospital in Nacogdoches or almost two hours to health care facilities in Tyler for COVID-19 treatment, says Singson."

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