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The top 3 countries in deaths. I wonder what they have in common

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“It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle – it will disappear,”  USA

“It's a little flu”  - Brazil 

“This idea that you can’t hug. You have to hug. Nothing happens.” - Mexico

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It's astonishing that there are literally dozens of high-level people in Washington who routinely grasp the issues at hand and lay them out clearly -- EWarren, TFauci, etc. -- and yet at the very top we are governed by The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight, and Wouldn't Want To Do So Even If They Were Able.

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How Germany Saved Its Workforce From Unemployment While Spending Less Per Person Than the U.S.

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Instead of leaving employers to lay off workers en masse during hard times, and then have the workers apply individually for unemployment benefits, the German government subsidizes employers’ payrolls directly. Workers at a given firm or business agree to all work fewer hours, to spread what work remains among the whole staff instead of having some people laid off. But through government subsidies, they continue to receive a sizable share of their usual pay, as high as 87%, even if circumstances have them working few hours for the time being. When the economic crisis passes, they return to work full time, without the upheaval of losing a job and filing for unemployment on their own.

The difference in approaches has helped contribute to wildly different levels of economic fallout and social upheaval in response to the same pandemic. In Germany, the unemployment rate has increased from 5% to 5.8% from March to April. In the U.S., it surged from 4.4% to 14.7%.

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I'm not just posting this because of hindsight but this is how it should've been done in the US, especially with healthcare insurance tied to employment. 

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  On 8/8/2020 at 9:06 PM, BradInATX said:

Yeah but Germany's plan put no money in the hands of corporations or rich white people so it can fuck right off.

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That's the part that's frustrating to me, and you. Nothing happens in this country unless you give govt money to some powerful industry. The ACA was like this, and covid relief bills were like this. Which is why significant change is really not possible. 

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  On 8/8/2020 at 8:05 PM, Skyline said:

How Germany Saved Its Workforce From Unemployment While Spending Less Per Person Than the U.S.

I'm not just posting this because of hindsight but this is how it should've been done in the US, especially with healthcare insurance tied to employment. 

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Way better to just cut business owners a blank check and not have any of it trickle down to workers. 

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Nothing here that should surprise anyone, but as always, it's just mind-boggling to actually see it in writing:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-struggled-summer-coronavirus/2020/08/08/e12ceace-d80a-11ea-aff6-220dd3a14741_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_virustrump733pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

 

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As the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows is responsible for coordinating the vast executive branch, including its coronavirus response. But in closed-door meetings, he has revealed his skepticism of the two physicians guiding the anti-pandemic effort, Deborah Birx and Anthony S. Fauci, routinely questioning their expertise, according to senior administration officials and other people briefed on the internal discussions.

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Meadows no longer holds a daily 8 a.m. meeting that includes health professionals to discuss the raging pandemic. Instead, aides said, he huddles in the mornings with a half-dozen politically oriented aides — and when the virus comes up, their focus is more on how to convince the public that President Trump has the crisis under control, rather than on methodically planning ways to contain it.

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During coronavirus meetings, Meadows has repeatedly questioned the scientific consensus that wearing masks helps contain the spread of the novel coronavirus, officials said. He has regularly raised with Fauci and other aides a range of issues on which he thinks Fauci has been wrong, and he personally monitors the infectious-disease expert’s media appearances. When he catches Fauci sounding out of sync with Trump, the chief of staff admonishes the doctor to “stay on message,” officials said — and he has impressed upon Fauci, Birx and other public health professionals that they should not opine on restrictions or make policy in the media.

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With the news of college football likely being canceled for the season, I poked around a few fan sites to see the reaction. The Georgia and Bama sites were about 85/15 before the threads were nuked with the 85% blaming the canceled season on "the media and liberals."

I know I know.....Georgia and Alabama message board fans.....but still, I'm fascinated by the idea that liberals and the media are responsible. How? How do they think liberals and the media are canceling college football in the south? Do they think covid isn't a big deal, the media is blowing it out of proportion and cities and universities are bowing to media pressure? What about liberals? 

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  On 8/9/2020 at 4:16 PM, Doc Sam Beckett said:

With the news of college football likely being canceled for the season, I poked around a few fan sites to see the reaction. The Georgia and Bama sites were about 85/15 before the threads were nuked with the 85% blaming the canceled season on "the media and liberals."

I know I know.....Georgia and Alabama message board fans.....but still, I'm fascinated by the idea that liberals and the media are responsible. How? How do they think liberals and the media are canceling college football in the south? Do they think covid isn't a big deal, the media is blowing it out of proportion and cities and universities are bowing to media pressure? What about liberals? 

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They're like all other conservatives who see a vast liberal conspiracy yet the conservative party controls most every level of government.

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  On 8/8/2020 at 8:05 PM, Skyline said:

How Germany Saved Its Workforce From Unemployment While Spending Less Per Person Than the U.S.

I'm not just posting this because of hindsight but this is how it should've been done in the US, especially with healthcare insurance tied to employment. 

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But how can those at the top feel good about their lives unless they're deliberately making the fellow citizens' lives shittier?

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  On 8/9/2020 at 5:16 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Today was supposed to be the closing ceremonies for the Summer Olympics. Were the liberals and the media also responsible for the postponement of the Olympics?

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Duh?

Keep in mind, these folks think the liberals and media in the US control everything everywhere.

 

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  On 8/7/2020 at 10:51 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

She gets it. These two right here.

 

 

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This.

Biden needs to keep saying that Trump's failure of leadership on Covid is the cause of the economy being shit - and we can't get back to normal jobs and schools so long as Trump is in charge and failing to do anything about it.  More importantly, Americans are dying needlessly,  and many thousands more will have life long medical problems because of Donald Trump's failures.

Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat

 

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  On 8/9/2020 at 4:16 PM, Doc Sam Beckett said:

With the news of college football likely being canceled for the season, I poked around a few fan sites to see the reaction. The Georgia and Bama sites were about 85/15 before the threads were nuked with the 85% blaming the canceled season on "the media and liberals."

I know I know.....Georgia and Alabama message board fans.....but still, I'm fascinated by the idea that liberals and the media are responsible. How? How do they think liberals and the media are canceling college football in the south? Do they think covid isn't a big deal, the media is blowing it out of proportion and cities and universities are bowing to media pressure? What about liberals? 

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You can't use logic to decipher their thought process. It's an emotional thing. It's all about their feelings, if you will. They have to blame the left and media because otherwise there may be a moment of introspection that could lead some small part of themselves, buried deep within their hearts, to realize that they were not only wrong, but at least partially responsible because they voted for the guy that has fucked this whole thing up literally every step of the way. 

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  On 8/8/2020 at 8:05 PM, Skyline said:

How Germany Saved Its Workforce From Unemployment While Spending Less Per Person Than the U.S.

I'm not just posting this because of hindsight but this is how it should've been done in the US, especially with healthcare insurance tied to employment. 

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Third World nations, like the US, use despair, death and disability as a motivating tool. That's why they are Third World nations and not first world nations like Germany.

The nation made a horrible mistake obliterating the safety net. Those chickens are coming home to roost. The hollowing out of the middle class continues as it has since the 1970's. It is now reaching critical levels and the economic system that feeds the wealthy is breaking down rapidly. 

https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/america-is-regressing-into-a-developing-nation-for-most-people

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The richest large economy in the world, says Temin, is coming to have an economic and political structure more like a developing nation. We have entered a phase of regression, and one of the easiest ways to see it is in our infrastructure: our roads and bridges look more like those in Thailand or Venezuela than the Netherlands or Japan. But it goes far deeper than that, which is why Temin uses a famous economic model created to understand developing nations to describe how far inequality has progressed in the United States. The model is the work of West Indian economist W. Arthur Lewis, the only person of African descent to win a Nobel Prize in economics. For the first time, this model is applied with systematic precision to the U.S.

The result is profoundly disturbing.

In the Lewis model of a dual economy, much of the low-wage sector has little influence over public policy. Check. The high-income sector will keep wages down in the other sector to provide cheap labor for its businesses. Check. Social control is used to keep the low-wage sector from challenging the policies favored by the high-income sector. Mass incarceration - check. The primary goal of the richest members of the high-income sector is to lower taxes. Check. Social and economic mobility is low. Check. 

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But who cares. Our nation's motto is, "I got mine and I don't give a fuck about anyone else."  

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  On 8/9/2020 at 7:54 PM, washparkhorn said:

Third World nations, like the US, use despair, death and disability as a motivating tool. That's why they are Third World nations and not first world nations like Germany.

The nation made a horrible mistake obliterating the safety net. Those chickens are coming home to roost. The hollowing out of the middle class continues as it has since the 1970's. It is now reaching critical levels and the economic system that feeds the wealthy is breaking down rapidly. 

https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/america-is-regressing-into-a-developing-nation-for-most-people

But who cares. Our nation's motto is, "I got mine and I don't give a fuck about anyone else."  

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That article is not only accurate but horrifying. 

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Welp - a decent number of those folks are going to get sick and die. Especially the older, fatter ones (which looks to be the majority)

Of course they will probably spread CV19 to a store clerk, hotel receptionist, waiter, bartender etc on their way back home.

Just unreal. People like this are absolute fucking idiots. Just an absolute joke. This is why we cannot have nice things.

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  On 8/9/2020 at 6:25 AM, WhatTheBuck said:
Jesus, the Tea Party introduced a bunch of dumb motherfuckers into Republican politics. It's amazing. 

Well, it is not like the Tea Party was full of intellectuals. They are exactly who we thought they were.
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Well, sounds like college football will be officially called off in the next 48 hours. Get ready for an explosion of idiocy along the lines of Beruit last week. Small blasts from AL, GA and FL combine into a massive wave all the way to Cali.



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