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  On 11/13/2020 at 10:55 PM, Neonmoon said:

We’re going up in all categories. Cases, Admits, Critical, Deaths

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Well obviously we're admitting more people to the hospitals.  We have more hospitals.  Perfect hospitals.  

Wait until we start testing for deaths.  Then the shit's really gonna hit the fan.  

10 months in, welcome to our national strategy folks.  Dumbest fucking version of America brought to you by...

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  On 11/13/2020 at 11:19 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

Nifty tool; don't recall it  being posted on this thread:

https://covid19risk.biosci.gatech.edu

 

COVID-19 Event Risk Assessment Planning Tool

This map shows the risk level of attending an event, given the event size and location.

The risk level is the estimated chance (0-100%) that at least 1 COVID-19 positive individual will be present at an event in a county, given the size of the event.

Based on seroprevalence data, we assume there are ten times more cases than are being reported (10:1 ascertainment bias). In places with more testing availability, that rate may be lower.

Choose an event size and ascertainment bias below.

 

 

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Somewhat helpful, I guess, but the 10X prevalence assumption is mighty coarse.

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It is spiraling right now.  Remember the lag, all those Biden victory parties are going to be super spreaders just like Halloween was, and like turkey day will be.

 

We're completely fucked because people are morons.  All of them.

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This is why we can't have nice things.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rolla-missouri-unsanctioned-homecoming-dance-at-steakhouse-became-possible-coronavirus-superspreader-event?ref=home?ref=home

 

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Long before it was deemed a potential superspreader event, it didn’t take a detective to realize that someone in Rolla, Missouri, was throwing a massive party.

Sailing-themed invitations were screen-shotted on Snapchat. Parents wrote cryptic Facebook posts. Pink formal dresses popped up on Instagram.

But the Rolla residents who witnessed those posts likely didn’t put the full picture together. Nor could they have predicted the extent to which the event—an unsanctioned homecoming dance at a local steakhouse—would affect the community, forcing the health department to devote all its resources to one fiasco and nudging the high school to go back to full-on virtual learning.

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This week, Ashley Wann, health director of the Phelps-Maries County Health Department, told The Daily Beast that up to 200 Rolla High School students—and “numerous” parents—gathered indoors at Matt’s Steakhouse on Saturday, Nov. 7. Wann called it “a parent-organized event,” and the department has said students from the freshman through senior classes were present.

“The individuals that we have been in contact with all report no masks were worn and that masks were made optional by the event organizers,” Wann told The Daily Beast.

When the inevitable COVID-19 cases started popping up, Wann said her department’s job was made harder by the fact that there was no list of attendees.

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This wasn’t an accident: The health department was told “by community members and those in attendance” that organizers intentionally hid the number and identity of those in attendance to avoid contact tracing in the event of an outbreak, according to Wann. That account of deliberate epidemiological obfuscation was bolstered by a handful of accounts from residents.

As of Friday, there were seven cases tied to the event and several others at Rolla High School among students and staff members, Wann told The Daily Beast. She was not optimistic about her department’s ability to link all relevant cases.

The story out of Rolla mirrored many others throughout the country, where health departments face an uphill battle against COVID-19 skepticism and the politicization of mask-wearing—and the potential for one event to spark massive outbreaks. But it stood out for what residents described as a purposeful effort to ward off health officials’ scrutiny even as the pandemic’s third wave wreaks new frontiers of horror nationwide.

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  On 11/13/2020 at 11:44 PM, Fletch said:

A few months ago I ran into a bar fly I see around local watering holes at a gas station. He guaranteed me this was all conspiracy and the second Biden was announced it’ll all go away. He said something like “look around! Do you see bodies out in the streets!?!?” I’m still wrapping my head around that thought 

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sounds like someone forgot to look in the trees

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So in utterly infective COVID window dressing up here, instead of playing the state football championships in Memorial Stadium where you can scatter a crowd pretty good, they’re playing them at school sites, so we’re going to have 1500 people standing shoulder to shoulder at lighted patch of grass in Shickley. 

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  On 11/13/2020 at 11:51 PM, Hefeweizen said:

It is spiraling right now.  Remember the lag, all those Biden victory parties are going to be super spreaders just like Halloween was, and like turkey day will be.

We're completely fucked because people are morons.  All of them.

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What Biden victory parties? You mean the ones Biden attends? Or the ones that happened out in the streets after they announced the win for Biden?

At least Biden has been consistent in setting a good example of social distancing and mask wearing at all of his campaign events. At the Republican National Convention, not only were masks scarce and the crowd packed closely together, they referred to the pandemic in the past tense. Trump's strategy in the last few weeks of his campaign was to go back to holding rallies and just pretending the pandemic didn't exist anymore. Because what the fuck does he care what message that sends to the country if it helps him win the election? Not only does he hold super spreader events, he encourages others to hold super spreader events. 

Don't underestimate the effect of Trump's messaging in the final weeks of the campaign on the current outbreak. And, with few exceptions, he has discouraged the wearing of masks throughout the pandemic. If we surveyed a million people who refuse to wear masks, I'd agree to pay you $2 for everyone who was a Biden supporter if you agreed to pay me $1 for everyone who was a Trump supporter. I figure I'd come out about $700,000 ahead. 

The vast majority of the morons are on the Trump side. And it makes sense because Trump is the king of the morons. 

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  On 11/14/2020 at 7:00 AM, WhatTheBuck said:

What Biden victory parties? You mean the ones Biden attends? Or the ones that happened out in the streets after they announced the win for Biden?

At least Biden has been consistent in setting a good example of social distancing and mask wearing at all of his campaign events. At the Republican National Convention, not only were masks scarce and the crowd packed closely together, they referred to the pandemic in the past tense. Trump's strategy in the last few weeks of his campaign was to go back to holding rallies and just pretending the pandemic didn't exist anymore. Because what the fuck does he care what message that sends to the country if it helps him win the election? Not only does he hold super spreader events, he encourages others to hold super spreader events. 

Don't underestimate the effect of Trump's messaging in the final weeks of the campaign on the current outbreak. And, with few exceptions, he has discouraged the wearing of masks throughout the pandemic. If we surveyed a million people who refuse to wear masks, I'd agree to pay you $2 for everyone who was a Biden supporter if you agreed to pay me $1 for everyone who was a Trump supporter. I figure I'd come out about $700,000 ahead. 

The vast majority of the morons are on the Trump side. And it makes sense because Trump is the king of the morons. 

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I voted for Biden fwiw.  On my street there were two separate parties; not big and outdoor but still gatherings.

 

Halloween we went by our old hood and there was a giant Trump flag in front of a house with about 75 people unmasked partying.

 

Personal anecdotes but still - #bothsides!

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There was a party that spontaneously occurred in my garage/alley last Saturday after the election got called. Somehow the garage door ended up crooked, with bent spars and a spring broken. It to be rebuilt and rehung the next day- new rails, new spars, brackets, everything except the panels and the door itself. Cost me over a grand, which pales in comparison to the market value of the bourbon and champagne that was consumed. 
 

Everybody wore masks though. Worth it!
 

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  On 11/14/2020 at 12:54 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

There was a party that spontaneously occurred in my garage/alley last Saturday after the election got called. Somehow the garage door ended up crooked, with bent spars and a spring broken. It to be rebuilt and rehung the next day- new rails, new spars, brackets, everything except the panels and the door itself. Cost me over a grand, which pales in comparison to the market value of the bourbon and champagne that was consumed. 
 

Everybody wore masks though. Worth it!
 

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You got so drunk that you broke your garage door? Have some rep. 

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  On 11/14/2020 at 2:00 PM, Anastasis said:

You got so drunk that you broke your garage door? Have some rep. 

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Not sure what happened, to be honest-  one minute high school kids were making tik toks of me doing the Paul Wall part on “How to Be the Man”, the next minute I’m calling around to garage door companies at 1am and they are telling me they don’t understand what I’m saying. It’s all kind of a blur. 

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  On 11/14/2020 at 12:33 PM, Hefeweizen said:

I voted for Biden fwiw.  On my street there were two separate parties; not big and outdoor but still gatherings.

 

Halloween we went by our old hood and there was a giant Trump flag in front of a house with about 75 people unmasked partying.

 

Personal anecdotes but still - #bothsides!

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I've seen a statistic that people who refuse to wear masks are 91% likely to be Trump supporters. That's not "#bothsodes!" When one side is a whole hell of a lot worse than the other, it's fallacious to equate them just because the better side isn't just exactly perfect. 

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Pos rep to Tuco and HenryJames.

"No, Mr. B_C...you can't tax deduct destroying your own garage door on your taxes as a capital loss.  No, I wouldn't file a claim to your homeowner's insurance if you had anything to do with it.  Wait, you think it was drunken high school kids?  That you provided alcohol to?  Wait, what happened next?  You know what?...nevermind...stop talking.  This is why I told you to vote for Trump, to get your life back on the straight and narrow.  Good night..............sinner."  

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So, while I’m thrilled to not have Covid right now and just seem to be having a rather severe allergy flare up, there are some downsides.

I had particularly rough coughing fit in Target this morning.

Boy howdy, I got the major stink eye from everyone within hearing distance lol.

I think I need to invest in a t-shirt that says “It’s not Covid! I have allergies! I have a negative test to prove it! I swear!”.

I got in and out real fast - I couldn’t even leisurely browse The Dollar Spot, dangit!

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From visiting a hospital for a bit of outpatient slashing-up, I am convinced the average human is incapable of the sustained concentration that precautions require.

Noses poking out of masks. People drifting way the fuck too close. The impression of little kids playing a game, where if they touch base, they're safe.

Anybody who's ever been in Basic Training, remember how spazzed out the recruits are on the first day, unable to comprehend basic English, dropping stuff, going the wrong way? That's how it felt.

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to be fair to Vice President Pence, his religious faith does not allow him to be alone in a room with a bar graph after sunset.  

Oh wait, that's "alone in a room at a bar with Steffi Graf after sunset"       My bad.

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  On 11/14/2020 at 4:05 PM, Bama Chick said:


I had particularly rough coughing fit in Target this morning.

Boy howdy, I got the major stink eye from everyone within hearing distance lol.
 

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Very relieved you tested negative. I say keep em all in the dark. The folks who quietly believe it isn't to be taken seriously, may decide to take it seriously.

 

Looks like the Kushner clan should be called the contagion clan. SIAP

 

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  On 11/14/2020 at 6:50 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

Very relieved you tested negative. I say keep em all in the dark. The folks who quietly believe it isn't to be taken seriously, may decide to take it seriously.

 

Looks like the Kushner clan should be called the contagion clan. SIAP

 

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It's a bigger shame that the universe allowed these two to procreate.

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  On 11/14/2020 at 2:24 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Not sure what happened, to be honest-  one minute high school kids were making tik toks of me doing the Paul Wall part on “How to Be the Man”, the next minute I’m calling around to garage door companies at 1am and they are telling me they don’t understand what I’m saying. It’s all kind of a blur. 

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Late candidate for post of the year?

Posted
  On 11/14/2020 at 6:33 PM, Beau Vine said:

Was wondering if you knew Cory Coates, and if you did, if you'd cunt punch her for me?

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I don't think I know her, but we have 3 mutual friends on Facebook, two of whom are prototypical big fish small pond meatheads.  Think Al Bundy but without the wit and charm.

#glorydays

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Back in the summer, I know healthcare experts were predicting a 3rd wave around November. I figured they were probably right but I can’t believe the national charts where we have doubled the 2nd wave daily new cases.

I was curious what the Texas state dept health was stating about this growth. Their main chart with a time dimension show both cumulative cases and new cases on the same chart. SMH. This allows the new cases to barely be a blip. Charts can magically make something seem insignificant. 

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  On 11/14/2020 at 12:33 PM, Hefeweizen said:
I voted for Biden fwiw.  On my street there were two separate parties; not big and outdoor but still gatherings.
 
Halloween we went by our old hood and there was a giant Trump flag in front of a house with about 75 people unmasked partying.
 
Personal anecdotes but still - #bothsides!

All the Biden celebrations I saw were all outside with almost 100% mask wearing. Then again, this is NYC and masks are definitely a thing here.
Posted
  On 11/13/2020 at 2:15 AM, Anastasis said:

@triplehorn, with all sincerity, this might be right up your head shrinker alley.  Let go of the HCQ dead end, and maybe pivot to supporting some of the quality research being planned with other agents.  Given the case loads right now, should be pretty easy to hit enrollment numbers.  Or just keep posting retrospective analyses out of India, whatever. 

 

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Trial supports use of fluvoxamine in patients with mild COVID-19   Key passage from this article:

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“Today, with all the focus on vaccines, we are neglecting to adequately fund research on the most promising existing drugs for treating this virus,” said Steve Kirsch, CETF founder. “COVID-19 will be with us for a while, so in addition to the vaccine studies, we should be focusing on testing drugs such as fluvoxamine, camostat, GS-441524 and doxazosin. Preventing serious illness and death should be the goal and repurposed drugs can be rolled out quickly to the benefit of millions worldwide. Virtually all of the funding for these outpatient trials is coming from a very small number of private donors. That needs to change. This trial provides strong evidence that drug repurposing may soon prove to be the fastest and least expensive way to end this pandemic.”

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The bolded is right up there with our biggest failures in the US managing this pandemic.  Who's to blame?  Fauci? Trump?  Pharma isn't going to pay for and conduct generic repurposing studies.  Outside of vaccines, for which Fauci et al went all-in from the very beginning, federal funding for repurposed therapeutics in the US is virtually non-existent.  Fauci's fault? I don't know.  But the rest of the world has left us behind in researching repurposed generics and utilizing them on a population scale.  The evidence is overwhelming that we have multiple safe and effective options when targeted correctly yet it's radio silence from on high in the US.  Why? 

Despite the drug that will not be named having over 170 positive studies worldwide (10 positive studies the first 2 weeks of this November alone) , ivermectin is emerging as arguably the strongest effective available agent for early use.  Ivermectin RCT reported this week showing it outperforms tdtwbn:

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Two arms also tested ivermectin prophylaxis with impressive results:

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dirt cheap, safe, and once per week or even once per month dosing. 

Apart from POTUS and VIPs getting good care with repurposed generics, for the rest of the population it's zilch.  Wait for a vaccine, and watch a lot more death than there has to be.  Why?

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  On 11/15/2020 at 4:56 PM, HenryJames said:
Yes, tell us more about how doctors in the United States are letting people die because reasons. 

Dude, it’s obviously a conspiracy, where the doctors are controlled by the Bilderbergers, Big Pharma, the lizard people under the Denver airport, and Ken Griffey Jr. Duh. Open your eyes, sheeple!
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  On 11/15/2020 at 5:07 PM, Brisketexan said:


Dude, it’s obviously a conspiracy, where the doctors are controlled by the Bilderbergers, Big Pharma, the lizard people under the Denver airport, and Ken Griffey Jr. Duh. Open your eyes, sheeple!

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You forgot about the queers.  Do you have any idea what they're doing to the soil?

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  On 11/15/2020 at 5:07 PM, Brisketexan said:


Dude, it’s obviously a conspiracy, where the doctors are controlled by the Bilderbergers, Big Pharma, the lizard people under the Denver airport, and Ken Griffey Jr. Duh. Open your eyes, sheeple!

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They meet at a place called The Meadows 

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