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I'd just like to point out that neither myself nor any of my fellow nurses, fellow advanced nurse practitioners, and other healthcare providers ever swore an oath that we would lay down our lives for

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Welp, it finally happened. I snapped in public today. I went into work for a bit this morning because I’m trying to figure out the safest way to host physicians we are recruiting given our CV-19 sit

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I don't really know what to say anymore tbh. What happened last night is hard to put into words for anyone who hasn't worked in a hospital healthcare setting. Just unreal. Everyone is getting fucked.

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1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:


And Black Americans STILL have inequitable healthcare outcomes to this very day.

Black women are routinely treated less seriously by medical professionals and often downright ignored or accused of being malingerers. They also have much higher mortality and complications during pregnancy.

It’s not only an issue of horrific things from the past.

Tangentially, I saw a tweet where a black woman's family was sick with COVID, and that their doctor didn't want her to bring anyone to the ER/hospital until "their lips started turning blue."  The replies were amazing, many POC talking about getting similar advice and some doctors chiming in on how to check other areas of the body for signs of hypoxia and links to cheap oximeters so they wouldn't have to guess.  I doubt the original doc had any ill intent with his advice, its just a huge blind spot.  

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12 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The Kansas story that was posted recently? Here is another one by the Associated Press that also mentions Kansas. The article focuses on the numbers of health department officials stepping down nationwide. The poor county health department administrator in Kansas lost her mother to COVID and the county still refused to make masks mandatory.

https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-public-health-michael-brown-kansas-coronavirus-pandemic-5aa548a2e5b46f38fb1b884554acf590

It’s happened in the valley (I think it was McAllen) and in Laredo where the health directors have resigned/quit because of the shit they were getting from the people.  We’re too selfish of a populace to look out for our neighbor.  I’ll be getting the vaccine whenever I’m allowed to.

 

also with regards to African Americans and them being skeptical, I was listening to Rogan this morning and Gary Clark Jr. was on and pretty much saying the same thing. He’s not going to get it right away he’d rather wait a bit.  Didn’t even cross my mind to think of it as a racial thing and that’s fucked up on my part.

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

So are we all getting these cards when we get vaccinated?  Seems like a very easy thing to forge for the anti-vax or covid deniers.

Yes you get a card with your vaccination.  I don't think it's meant to be any kind of failproof ID or anything, just a record like your normal vaccine record, and to remind you to get your second dose.  There is no sophisticated tracking going on,  at least not what is publicly available, so if someone wants to pretend they got the vaccine to fool others they will.  However, they do record your name, birthday and specific vial of vaccination administered so someone is tracking this info, and it could potentially be put in a searchable database in the future I suppose. 

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Yes you get a card with your vaccination.  I don't think it's meant to be any kind of failproof ID or anything, just a record like your normal vaccine record, and to remind you to get your second dose.  There is no sophisticated tracking going on,  at least not what is publicly available, so if someone wants to pretend they got the vaccine to fool others they will.  However, they do record your name, birthday and specific vial of vaccination administered so someone is tracking this info, and it could potentially be put in a searchable database in the future I suppose. 

They just scan you for the Bill Gates microchip regardless. 

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Yes you get a card with your vaccination.  I don't think it's meant to be any kind of failproof ID or anything, just a record like your normal vaccine record, and to remind you to get your second dose.  There is no sophisticated tracking going on,  at least not what is publicly available, so if someone wants to pretend they got the vaccine to fool others they will.  However, they do record your name, birthday and specific vial of vaccination administered so someone is tracking this info, and it could potentially be put in a searchable database in the future I suppose. 

Consider enrolling in the VSAFE system.  It is a smartphone app to track for safety signals and one of the only surveillance tools in place for early wave roll out.  

https://vsafe.cdc.gov/

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafe.html

V-safe is a smartphone-based tool that uses text messaging and web surveys to provide personalized health check-ins after you receive a COVID-19 vaccination. Through v-safe, you can quickly tell CDC if you have any side effects after getting the COVID-19 vaccine. Depending on your answers, someone from CDC may call to check on you and get more information. And v-safe will remind you to get your second COVID-19 vaccine dose if you need one.

Your participation in CDC’s v–safe makes a difference — it helps keep COVID-19 vaccines safe.

 

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7 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

So for those of us at the back of the vaccine line, what's going to be the best way for us to get it when it's finally available for us in May or whenever? Will our doctors offices have them, will we just go to CVS, or what?

Given the large, and growing number of anti-vaxers, I think it's gonna be more like March or April when the general public gets access.  My understanding is that pharmacies and general doc offices will be administering the vaccine, especially once the Moderna one gets approved which doesn't have such sophisticated storage requirments.   I know our hospital and a local major university is already planning a community vaccination clinic.

In case anyone is interested, my hospital gave out over 200 doses yesterday and there have been no major reactions.  I spoke to about a dozen docs and some of us have arm soreness today, slightly worse than the flu shot, but nothing else.    I recommend taking some Advil either before or immediately after you get yours.  Also remember that these vaccines have NO virus in them so you can't get rona from it, which I amazingly had to explain to my highly educated wife again last night. 

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https://khn.org/morning-breakout/had-african-american-patients-been-prescribed-opioids-at-same-level-as-white-ones-14000-more-would-have-died/

That would have been an epic tragedy but the main point is that each patient deserves equal consideration of their health regardless of their demography.

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Given the large, and growing number of anti-vaxers, I think it's gonna be more like March or April when the general public gets access.  My understanding is that pharmacies and general doc offices will be administering the vaccine, especially once the Moderna one gets approved which doesn't have such sophisticated storage requirments.   I know our hospital and a local major university is already planning a community vaccination clinic.

In case anyone is interested, my hospital gave out over 200 doses yesterday and there have been no major reactions.  I spoke to about a dozen docs and some of us have arm soreness today, slightly worse than the flu shot, but nothing else.    I recommend taking some Advil either before or immediately after you get yours.  Also remember that these vaccines have NO virus in them so you can't get rona from it, which I amazingly had to explain to my highly educated wife again last night. 

to be fair, I am 42 and have just recently learned of (m)RNA vaccines and how they work and I'm a relatively smart and educated person. 

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8 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Oh, I’m sorry Pfizer. Is “DO SOMETHING!” not a clear enough instruction for you?

This.  Jesus tapdancing Christ.

WE DO NOT HAVE A FUNCTIONING GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW.  There's no equivocating or arguing here -- we literally do not have anyone at the wheel (the only thing he's focused on is being a crying tittybaby on Twitter, and covering his ass before he leaves office), and will not for another month.

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9 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

I made the mistake of opening Facebook for the first time in months and this is what I see.  This is what we are up against.  Good lawd!

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I remember people asking a question about why were our scientist studying cow farts or making viagra when we had real issues.   That was in person and nearly 30 years ago.   That person prided themself on common sense, but of course had little. 

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This.  Jesus tapdancing Christ.

WE DO NOT HAVE A FUNCTIONING GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW.  There's no equivocating or arguing here -- we literally do not have anyone at the wheel (the only thing he's focused on is being a crying tittybaby on Twitter, and covering his ass before he leaves office), and will not for another month.

And the Russians are running roughshod through our back end systems.

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PSA: for anybody having arguments IRL or online with someone who keeps claiming that they are just coding' deaths for other things (heart attacks, car accidents, etc.) as covid for 'reasons'...i was having such an argument myself and did some research and found (fairly easily) a lot of evidence showing that the TOTAL number of deaths for all causes is up in 2020 significantly, by over ~350,000 in fact. what a coincidence.

(in fact, some experts think covid deaths are UNDERreported, as well as deaths from other causes being exacerbated by either covid symptoms or other issues not being treated (like, people avoiding doctor/hospitals out of fear, shutdowns, etc.) and yes, there has been an increase in suicides/homicides as well...but i avoided getting sidetracked on those issues so as to avoid confusion, some people can handle only limited challenges to their deeply believed notions at once 🙄) 

anyway, the overall increase cannot be denied. i mean...it can be, and it is, but it's bullshit lol. numbers do not have an 'agenda'.

i don't know if they've discussed this specifically in the DT thread b/c i avoid that one like the plague. heh. 

anyway, just fyi, here's a few of the links i found

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2774445?fbclid=IwAR0NrUqA_An5Cp6Ic_0ptbbOy78u68ZlODdctm616_TQhlPml7HwvSMabnk 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/13/us/deaths-covid-other-causes.html?fbclid=IwAR1CJyq4BTHRQGn1tC2BZHxIVage7WxL4ph2gcMKzc3bWZVeCKRGMzwGe2s

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-death-toll-us.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-chart-us-death-figures-2020-idUSKBN2872MV

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/11/facebook-posts/chart-comparing-2020-us-death-toll-previous-years-/?fbclid=IwAR3wLbMrwZZl3nfIKopJlGziUOc1vFAmIVxgeIlEqhLDZQsnuQMv_4s1Hpg

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20 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Read the whole letter. It is astounding. 

 

the content is astounding...and also the absolutely terrible sentence structure and grammar, good lord lol...that letter would be lucky to get a D in your average high school English class!

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14 minutes ago, mchookem said:

PSA: for anybody having arguments IRL or online with someone who keeps claiming that they are just coding' deaths for other things (heart attacks, car accidents, etc.) as covid for 'reasons'...i was having such an argument myself and did some research and found (fairly easily) a lot of evidence showing that the TOTAL number of deaths for all causes is up in 2020 significantly, by over ~350,000 in fact. what a coincidence.

(in fact, some experts think covid deaths are UNDERreported, as well as deaths from other causes being exacerbated by either covid symptoms or other issues not being treated (like, people avoiding doctor/hospitals out of fear, shutdowns, etc.) and yes, there has been an increase in suicides/homicides as well...but i avoided getting sidetracked on those issues so as to avoid confusion, some people can handle only limited challenges to their deeply believed notions at once 🙄) 

anyway, the overall increase cannot be denied. i mean...it can be, and it is, but it's bullshit lol. numbers do not have an 'agenda'.

i don't know if they've discussed this specifically in the DT thread b/c i avoid that one like the plague. heh. 

anyway, just fyi, here's a few of the links i found

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2774445?fbclid=IwAR0NrUqA_An5Cp6Ic_0ptbbOy78u68ZlODdctm616_TQhlPml7HwvSMabnk 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/13/us/deaths-covid-other-causes.html?fbclid=IwAR1CJyq4BTHRQGn1tC2BZHxIVage7WxL4ph2gcMKzc3bWZVeCKRGMzwGe2s

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-death-toll-us.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-chart-us-death-figures-2020-idUSKBN2872MV

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/11/facebook-posts/chart-comparing-2020-us-death-toll-previous-years-/?fbclid=IwAR3wLbMrwZZl3nfIKopJlGziUOc1vFAmIVxgeIlEqhLDZQsnuQMv_4s1Hpg

mchookem: "the overall increase cannot be denied"

someone on-line: "You believe the NYT and the MSM? LOL. And Politifact is funded by Soros. Don't believe anything you haven't seen with your own eyes."

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  Jesus tapdancing Christ.

WE DO NOT HAVE A FUNCTIONING GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW.  There's no equivocating or arguing here -- we literally do not have anyone at the wheel (the only thing he's focused on is being a crying tittybaby on Twitter, and covering his ass before he leaves office), and will not for another month.

Have you seen that ass? Covering it is a full time job. 

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2 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Who could have possibly guessed our federal government would have sat with their thumbs up their asses under this administration? I'm shocked!

like chappelle said is his first opening SNL bit 'lets give him a chance' and i was yeah! thats the spirit!

oh wait no i wasn't. my wife was on the floor hyperventilating and we soon GO'ed. idoits. lets hand the nuclear football over to a proven fool. fools fall in love - i heard it once in a song and chappelle is funny as shit so it must be worth a shot! 

is DJ Monroe still on the sidelines? lets give him a shot finally. dude could fly. i always wonder "what if he was nuclear enabled"? just imagine

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

I guess Paul didn't get the memo that only medical doctors are allowed to use the Dr. Title. 

Pluralizing data is the minimum I expect from someone calling themself Dr.

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12 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

LOL This kid has been possessed by Joe Pesci.
 

My four year old has expressed similar sentiments. But he used slightly less colorful language. I laugh, but it breaks my heart that he has to deal with this reality. I also wonder how much he'll remember of it when he is older. 

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12 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

LOL This kid has been possessed by Joe Pesci.
 

 

LOL.  Some people are brain damaging their kids. There is a bit of a difference between sitting on your patio or front porch and partying in the casinos. Shit, I wonder at times how much I am brain damaging mine with our family protocols.  Kinda sad to seem my daughter distanced off from the rest of the soccer team in their tourney championship photo, but also kinda like high five girl.

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

My four year old has expressed similar sentiments. But he used slightly less colorful language. I laugh, but it breaks my heart that he has to deal with this reality. I also wonder how much he'll remember of it when he is older. 

Yeah, we range from probably won't remember most of this shit to will definitely remember all of this shit in our household. 

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