CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[HornOnTheBayou 8,945]

12 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Damn. That Letlow guy tested positive 11 days ago. And now he’s dead at 41 and left a widow and two small children.
 

 

And the replies are just as savage as you would imagine.

 

 

[Ghost of LL 15,539]

11 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

There's a part of me that would have wanted to say he f'd around and found out had he gotten it and lived. I realize we all process this differently because of the damage Republicans in general have done to this country and how absolutely flippant millions of them have been about COVID overall. I just think of those children not having a father now. That is incredibly sad. 

Of course you're right.  I've always taken the position that one should not speak ill of the dead.  I've expressed that view repeatedly on this board and the previous one, often strongly disagreeing with people who were celebrating various deaths.

It's indecent.  It's profane.  And it's just ugly to speak badly of someone who is no longer here to defend him/herself.  And even if you're not into the fairness of it, you should beware of the reciprocity.  Because we'll all be dead one day.  And we'd all prefer it if people only spoke well of us (if they need to speak at all).

But I'm so tired of it.  I'm so tired of answering the indecent with decency; of answering profanity with propriety.  

These people have, for political gain, killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.  They have plotted a coup to install a mentally-challenged criminal as dictator.  They have betrayed the country time and again.  And they have done all this while spewing complete lies and invective. 

So you know what?  I'm fucking glad he's dead.  Yeah--his kids will grow up without a father.  But the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.  And right now, the many need Congressional Republicans to die, politically, socially, and corporeally.  Because they've already died spiritually, ethically, and patriotically.

[kevwun 15,868]

I have never felt that way.  If someone was an asshole, that fact doesn't change when they die.

[wildcat09 29,377]

Would anybody be half as charitable if he had died while driving drunk? What about if he had died while driving drunk in an accident that injured a child? Because what he actually did caused way more harm to a lot more people than that hypothetical scenario. Fuck him.

[Js1 85,559]

When Dan Patrick said grandma had to sacrifice herself and die to reopen the economy, he didn't care that a 41 year old father of 2 was going to be collateral damage. 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

25 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

 

He's not wrong. but dammmmmn. 

 

[BradInATX 9,208]

I can laugh at the irony and make note of how his death is microcosmic of idiotworld 2020 America, but I can't get to celebrating his death. Leaving behind a wife and kids is tragic. His death alone, eh, "it is what it is". But his death has ruined at least three other lives, and that's a tragedy.

[Wanker Bob 379]

4 hours ago, Bookman said:

They're not enemies. They're just Americans who have a difficult time understanding reality.

No they are not. Maybe the dumb fucks who follow them are just dumb fucks with racist or other prejudice views, but every one of these Republican politicians knows damn well what would save more lives and what the course of action should be. They are just actively choosing to sacrifice people for their own personal gain and profit. That's an enemy of the people and should be treated as such. If you want to give sympathy to the mice following the Pied Piper that's fine but the Piper himself is an evil piece of shit. 

[smuggs 9,353]

35 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Because they've already died spiritually, ethically, and patriotically.

*and In Your Arms Tonight.

[UpperWestside 6,188]

20 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Of course you're right.  I've always taken the position that one should not speak ill of the dead.  I've expressed that view repeatedly on this board and the previous one, often strongly disagreeing with people who were celebrating various deaths.

It's indecent.  It's profane.  And it's just ugly to speak badly of someone who is no longer here to defend him/herself.  And even if you're not into the fairness of it, you should beware of the reciprocity.  Because we'll all be dead one day.  And we'd all prefer it if people only spoke well of us (if they need to speak at all).

But I'm so tired of it.  I'm so tired of answering the indecent with decency; of answering profanity with propriety.  

These people have, for political gain, killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.  They have plotted a coup to install a mentally-challenged criminal as dictator.  They have betrayed the country time and again.  And they have done all this while spewing complete lies and invective. 

So you know what?  I'm fucking glad he's dead.  Yeah--his kids will grow up without a father.  But the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.  And right now, the many need Congressional Republicans to die, politically, socially, and corporeally.  Because they've already died spiritually, ethically, and patriotically.

I get all of that and I won't disagree with what you have stated, pretty eloquently I might add. It's exceedingly hard to keep taking the proverbial high road when we are faced with those who choose to intentionally harm us like Republicans/cult members have and are continuing to willingly do. It hurts my soul to know that we have hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens dead because of intentionally doing nothing. That is so hard to process. I get that we have the most narcissistic individual to ever be the president of our country, but it is how everyone else just fell in line that made the death toll possible. When they had a chance to step up and go on the record and be on the right side of history they either outright declined to do so or they held the cult party line and showed no care for their fellow citizens. God, if you believe in such a being, will be their judge.

Absolutely agree with our collective needs outweighing the selfish and power-hungry desires of the few. We needed leadership and we received none. It was every state for themselves. I can unequivocally tell you that outside of my spiritual reliance on God through this time (As well as trusting our scientists and doctors completely), why I tread lightly is all of the reading I have done about John Lewis. There are two books that greatly shaped my views on things this year and one was his autobiography Walking With the Wind. I also read Jon Meacham's book about him this year as well. I think about the unbelievable amount of peace John Lewis had in the face of unspeakable evil and the lessons he shared in that book from his life. He never backed down from things like this, but he also never stopped looking at people as being anything other than that. He always made it a point to look his oppressors in the eye to humanize himself to them.

I am not happy at all with Republicans and I will NEVER, EVER vote for one of them for the rest of my life. I can be at peace with things, but I will not forget what they did over the last 4-5 years, but especially in 2020. 

[honolulu horn 6,165]

I update US Covid death totals weekly and match them with US city population equivalents. Today we're at 334,000 as a conservative number. That's the equivalent to the populations of Riverside CA or Santa Ana CA. Next up: Honolulu (projected next week). That one will hurt. 

[Ghost of LL 15,539]

22 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

I can laugh at the irony and make note of how his death is microcosmic of idiotworld 2020 America, but I can't get to celebrating his death. Leaving behind a wife and kids is tragic. His death alone, eh, "it is what it is". But his death has ruined at least three other lives, and that's a tragedy.

1) If it makes you feel any better, his continued life would've ruined far more.

2) Losing a parent or spouse doesn't ruin your life.  It's definitely a trauma.  But we're more than the sum total of our various traumas.

[DDD Dad 14,347]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

I assume that H-E-B took a centralized delivery and then will have to ship to the individual stores thus the individual stores are in the dark. 

Well considering they're never open that makes sense.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,523]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

How is their not a natIonal database of who has gotten the vaccine? Tracks doses administered, where, to who, timing, etc. 

you would think that would be step one. 

When I got the vaccine, there was an optional CDC registration. Each day since the vaccine, they send me a text with a link to a website asking me to report how I feel. I’m sure that most dont sign up for this service.

Given how some feel about the govt, even how people in congress feel about the govt, it wouldn’t surprise me if the CDC is restricted by law in terms of tracking people.  No gestapo in bastropo Jade helm restrictions.

Edited December 30, 2020 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Anastasis 23,481]

6 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Well considering they're never open that makes sense.

If I was the commissioner of HHSC my first call would have been to HEB. I would have just turned the whole vax distribution over to them. 

[Anastasis 23,481]

4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

When I got the vaccine, there was an optional CDC registration. Each day since the vaccine, they send me a text and report how I feel. I’m sure that most dont sign up for this service.

Given how some feel about the govt, even how people in congress feel about the govt, it wouldn’t surprise me if the CDC is restricted by law in terms of tracking people.  No gestapo in bastropo Jade helm restrictions.

Sign up for vsafe if you have not already. Sounds like you may be enrolled. 
 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafe.html

 

everybody needs to contribute their post vax experience. 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Anastasis

[kevwun 15,868]

It's easy to sign up and the daily text takes 30 seconds to answer.

[Homercles 10,206]

34 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

I update US Covid death totals weekly and match them with US city population equivalents. Today we're at 334,000 as a conservative number. That's the equivalent to the populations of Riverside CA or Santa Ana CA. Next up: Honolulu (projected next week). That one will hurt. 

“Some were claiming 400k dead by the end of the year haha fear mongering dumbasses take that shit to the cesspool CR haha” -DT clown in August.  
 

I don’t get the black/white nature of some people with this shit.  All politicians are shit, both sides are bad, if you don’t support all police or you protest you’re antifa, all of California is hippy socialists with high taxes, they’re going to take all my guns, Newsom being stupid once is as bad as holding maskless rallies and saying this virus will just vanish.

 

Whorver said that the right fanatics are all or nothing was spot on...it’s like degree has no bearing in their world.  
 

Covid death toll could be 399,999 by midnight tomorrow and you’d get the same ‘your prediction was wrong therefore everything you say is wrong’.  

[Surly Bevo 25,143]

23 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

If I was the commissioner of HHSC my first call would have been to HEB. I would have just turned the whole vax distribution over to them. 

Amazon/FedEx/HEB consortium.  I'd say Chick Fil A, but they probably don't believe in vaccines.  

[HalfSack Horn 149]

4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Amazon/FedEx/HEB consortium.  I'd say Chick Fil A, but they probably don't believe in vaccines.  

Yup.  Spot on.  I’m a sales manager at FedEx and the vaccines get priority over anything else.  Sorry not sorry.  UPS is doing the same.  They are carrying a lot of the setup kits and we have the majority of the cold chain storage.  We just move it where we are told, which happens to be directed 100% by the states.  Nobody wants to be held accountable.

HEB and local pharmacies seem to be the best route right now.  We just have to keep sharing where we find lists, etc.  

[Anastasis 23,481]

7 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Amazon/FedEx/HEB consortium.  I'd say Chick Fil A, but they probably don't believe in vaccines.  

Yep.  I'd throw a bone to CVS given their broad geographic footprint.  Some extremely high number of American live within a very short distance to a CVS. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,523]

No matter how you look at it, it’s not easy to attempt to vaccinate 20m adult Texans.  And given that the organizations administering the vaccine are basically doing so at a financial loss, the govt has to step in somewhat. All of these companies are charitable and employ patriotic Americans but let’s face it, give someone a financial incentive and they will work that much harder to meet goals and deadlines.

[Surly Bevo 25,143]

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

No matter how you look at it, it’s not easy to attempt to vaccinate 20m adult Texans.  And given that the organizations administering the vaccine are basically doing so at a financial loss, the govt has to step in somewhat. All of these companies are charitable and employ patriotic Americans but let’s face it, give someone a financial incentive and they will work that much harder to meet goals and deadlines.

I'll grant your first statement as it pertains to rural and far flung areas.  I don't buy it when it comes to urban areas.  NYC vaccinated 5 million people against smallpox in 1947....in two weeks.  We don't have the supply yet to do that but once it is there absolutely no reason it could not be done en masse and quickly.  

[kevwun 15,868]

All it takes is a database with a website, an app and phone number you can call.  People register through one of those 3 methods and then get an email, text or phone call when it's their turn.  How does the State of Texas not have this yet?  Don't answer that, it's rhetorical. 

Edited December 30, 2020 by kevwun

[washparkhorn 9,939]

15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Yep.  I'd throw a bone to CVS given their broad geographic footprint.  Some extremely high number of American live within a very short distance to a CVS. 

Add in post offices. 

We once had circuit riding judges delivering justice.

Now we need "Circuit-Riding Inoculators" traveling from post office to post office delivering immunizations. 

[Anastasis 23,481]

4 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Add in post offices. 

We once had circuit riding judges delivering justice.

Now we need "Circuit-Riding Inoculators" traveling from post office to post office delivering immunizations. 

Not a terrible idea for the rural locations where there is not pharmacy or medical infrastructure. 

[wildcat09 29,377]

5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

All it takes is a database with a website, an app and phone number you can call.  People register through one of those 3 methods and then get an email, text or phone call when it's their turn.  How does the State of Texas not have this yet?  Don't answer that, it's rhetorical. 

The really cool part about doing it the way we are is that right now I have to pick a new primary care doctor because my old doctor isn't in network for my new plan. So I guess I've got to find a new doctor and get a checkup so I'm actually a patient before I can get on a list to be notified? How many thousands/millions of other people are in the same situation?

Our healthcare system is insane.

[Neonmoon 38,130]

56 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Sign up for vsafe if you have not already. Sounds like you may be enrolled. 
 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafe.html

 

everybody needs to contribute their post vax experience. 

@immamac

Can we pin a thread in CR or somewhere with Vaccine Information?

oh fuck it, I will stat one. 

[kevwun 15,868]

There's one in DT already.  It has lots of good info.

[Anastasis 23,481]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

@immamac

Can we pin a thread in CR or somewhere with Vaccine Information?

oh fuck it, I will stat one. 

DT thread is a good one imo. 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

Oops. Forgot. Kill me 

[smuggs 9,353]

30 minutes ago, HalfSack Horn said:

Yup.  Spot on.  I’m a sales manager at FedEx and the vaccines get priority over anything else.  Sorry not sorry.  

Lol, I have a tracking number that says otherwise. My Fleshlight will be delivered before 9:30am CST tomorrow, HalfSack.

[HenryJames 66,166]

 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

Another idiot meets Gritty

 

The stupidity is impressive

Quote

Trent said he was surprised that he got COVID after attending the party because he “wasn’t doing anything risky.”

“I wasn’t on the conga line. I ate by myself,” he said. “I don’t know how I got this."

 

[Bama Chick 28,596]

Aw man.

[kevwun 15,868]

It's like it spreads through the air or something.  Weird.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,523]

3 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Aw man.
 

The deniers will chalk this up to the hospital wanting higher reimbursements.

[washparkhorn 9,939]

4 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Aw man.
 

Mary Ann was a first crush for so many. RIP

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2,682]

NSIAP

Abbott Teams up with Covid Against Austin

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/30/texas-greg-abbott-austin-new-years/

 

Greg Abbott says Austin can't ban late on-site dining for New Year's weekend as COVID-19 surge continues

Mayor Steve Adler said the severity of the COVID-19 situation in Austin requires more drastic measures. El Paso County announced a similar order earlier this month.

BY JUAN PABLO GARNHAM DEC. 30, 2020UPDATED: 2:38 PM

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With COVID-19 cases surging, Austin's mayor announced a ban on restaurants and bars serving customers on site during late night and early morning hours throughout the New Year's weekend, but Gov. Greg Abbott quickly attacked the move and said the city isn't authorized to exceed his statewide restrictions.

According to the city’s order, dine-in food and beverage service will be restricted both indoors and outdoors from 10:30 p.m. to 6 a.m. starting Thursday and ending at 6 a.m. Sunday. Those businesses can continue to offer drive-thru, curbside pick-up, take out, or delivery services.

“We are now facing our most dangerous surge,” Austin Mayor Steve Adler said during a Wednesday press conference. “We could be facing something more severe and more extreme than what we have seen in the past. I want to make real clear that this is not about government and this is not about politics.”

Abbott tweeted on Tuesday that Adler doesn't have authority to issue such a local order. “My executive order stops cities like Austin from arbitrarily shutting down businesses,” he said. “The city has a responsibility to enforce existing orders, not make new ones.”

But the governor has remained silent about similar orders in El Paso County that covered the Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's holidays. The governor's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Texas Tribune.

On Wednesday, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sent a letter to both Adler and Travis County Judge Andy Brown that said Austin's order was "unlawful and unenforceable" and threatened legal action if they don't "immediately rescind or, at a minimum, modify your orders" so they comply with the state's regulations.

Austin’s order, which carries a maximum fine of $1,000 for violators but no jail time, does not violate the state’s regulation because it’s “just an operational constraint,” Adler said, adding that “the reason that we are doing this is because it focuses on the activity where people are together without wearing masks.”

During his press conference, Adler encouraged Austinites to support restaurants through delivery and take out and “tip and overtip, because these people and these businesses are taking a severe and significant financial hit for the greater good, and we as a community can help mitigate that.”

Austin and Travis County officials warned that the area has seen a troubling rise in COVID-19 cases and they are worried about hospital capacity. In the last month, the county's positivity rate — the percentage of tests that come back positive for COVID-19 — and ICU bed usage have almost doubled. New daily cases have more than quadrupled in the same period, according to the county's COVID-19 dashboards.

“Today in Texas, COVID-19 represents one in five of every person hospitalized,” said Mark Escott, interim health authority and public health medical director for the City of Austin and Travis County. “The policies that we’ve had have not worked to curb the spread of the disease … Now it’s the time to reconsider those decisions so that we can protect Texas.”

On Twitter, the Texas Restaurant Association called on Austin businesses to follow Abbott’s guidance and said that “a curfew is not allowed.”

“Restaurants are deeply invested within their communities, and so they continue to do all they can to prevent the spread of COVID-19, often at tremendous cost,” the organization's tweet said. “Closing indoor dining will not prevent holiday celebrations; it will simply move them from highly regulated businesses into completely unregulated spaces at a critical time in our COVID-19 response.”

Last month, El Paso County Judge Ricardo Samaniego announced a similar curfewfor Thanksgiving as COVID-19 cases increased in the border county. And earlier this month, Samaniego issued a similar measure for Christmas and New Year's celebrations.

The county has banned all social activities — including restaurant dine-in services — from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. between Dec. 30 and Jan. 4 but allows take out and drive thru service. After he issued the Thanksgiving order, Samaniego said that he did so after what he said was a “favorable” discussion with Abbott’s office and a representative from the Texas Attorney General’s office.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has warned Americans to avoid crowds and poorly ventilated indoor spaces and recommended that people stay at home for New Year's Eve or celebrate virtually.

 

 

[washparkhorn 9,939]

The Death Cult in the Republican Party of Texas continues to do what death cults do. Fuck 'em.

 

[Pancho 44,983]

 

[Js1 85,559]

39 minutes ago, kevwun said:

It's like it spreads through the air or something.  Weird.

[Anastasis 23,481]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

[burntorangebongos 10,752]

Crap! Mary Ann died of it.

 

[smuggs 9,353]

46 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The deniers will chalk this up to the hospital wanting higher reimbursements.

"Her immune system had been put through the ringer being stranded on a desert island for so many years."

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,559]

24 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

The Death Cult in the Republican Party of Texas continues to do what death cults do. Fuck 'em.

 

This country is being run at all levels of government by the Mayor of Amity from Jaws except after he watches the kid get eaten by a shark he still says, "eh, let's all go in the water and keep swimming".   

[Js1 85,559]

Just now, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

This country is being run at all levels of government by the Mayor of Amity from Jaws except after he watches the kid get eaten by a shark he still says, "eh, let's all go in the water and keep swimming".   

That shark will not take away our freedom or kill our tourism economy! 

[Js1 85,559]

26 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

They should all be fired then. 

[27-25 2,054]

19 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Well you can....just like with testing/ppe Trump said "ah fuck it why don't the 50 of you deal with it on your own"  While they also have to deal with all the other shit that's been left to them.

Yep.  A reasonable leader of a nation might get some governors on the phone, discuss the apparent lack of progress in getting the vaccine administered and ask whether there was anything the Federal Government could do to help grease the skids.  You know, instead playing more rounds of golf.

[Gatorubet 30,298]

Of course you're right.  I've always taken the position that one should not speak ill of the dead.  I've expressed that view repeatedly on this board and the previous one, often strongly disagreeing with people who were celebrating various deaths.
It's indecent.  It's profane.  And it's just ugly to speak badly of someone who is no longer here to defend him/herself.  And even if you're not into the fairness of it, you should beware of the reciprocity.  Because we'll all be dead one day.  And we'd all prefer it if people only spoke well of us (if they need to speak at all).
But I'm so tired of it.  I'm so tired of answering the indecent with decency; of answering profanity with propriety.  
These people have, for political gain, killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.  They have plotted a coup to install a mentally-challenged criminal as dictator.  They have betrayed the country time and again.  And they have done all this while spewing complete lies and invective. 
So you know what?  I'm fucking glad he's dead.  Yeah--his kids will grow up without a father.  But the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.  And right now, the many need Congressional Republicans to die, politically, socially, and corporeally.  Because they've already died spiritually, ethically, and patriotically.

I wish I could rep this like Texas scores bowl touchdowns.