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Yeah, India situation is bad.  We should certain clear any stores of Oxford vaccine we have.  Unfortunately that just doesn't move the needle for india.  They have a robust pharmaceutical industry and have license to manufacture Oxford, just approved sputnik, and JNJ has production facilities there. The scale of the population is just so massive, and the healthcare infrastructure so poor...big hill to climb. 

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if they don't have a plan to redistribute the glut of vax that is about to be apparent in the US, the gov needs to get on that ASAP.  I read there were clauses in the original vax contracts the Trump admin signed with vax makers that prohibit the use outside of the US.

from vanity fair piece: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/why-the-us-still-cant-donate-covid-19-vaccines-to-countries-in-need

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The contracts the Trump administration signed with the vaccine manufacturers prohibit the U.S. from sharing its surplus doses with the rest of the world. According to contract language Vanity Fair has obtained, the agreements with Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Janssen state: “The Government may not use, or authorize the use of, any products or materials provided under this Project Agreement, unless such use occurs in the United States” or U.S. territories.

The clauses in question are designed to ensure that the manufacturers retain liability protection, but they have had the effect of projecting the Trump administration’s America First agenda into the Biden era. “That is what has completely and totally prohibited the U.S. from donating or reselling, because it would be in breach of contract,” said a senior administration official involved in the global planning effort. “It is a complete and total ban. Those legal parameters must change before we do anything to help the rest of the world.”

In a statement to Vanity Fair, a Defense Department spokesperson acknowledged the contract restrictions, saying: “DoD did attempt to negotiate terms that would allow the use of vaccine doses outside the U.S., but in some cases, the vaccine manufacturers refused.” Given the imperative to produce 300 million doses for the American public, said the spokesperson, Operation Warp Speed officials agreed that it was “more important to contract with the vaccine manufacturers for doses that could be used” by U.S. citizens “than walk away from the negotiations based on this single term.”

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In the grand scheme of things, whatever % of whatever group that refuses to get vaxed in the US is not the big issue when it comes to variants and all that.  The US has been the leader in cases and deaths for so long, I had not really looked at much world news lately RE: covid.  my how the turntables... 

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I think the US better figure out how reroute some of theses vax doses ASAP.  Hell, maybe telling the vax hesitant that these foreigners are going to take their dose will suddenly spark a desire to claim one.  It sure works that way for my kids when we take some of their old toys to be donated.

 

 

 

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And is going to get worse. 

Scenes outside a hospital in Delhi, where people are dying without getting the treatment they need
Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.
A number of people have died while waiting for oxygen, and more than 99% of all intensive care beds are full.
India is in the grips of a second wave of Covid infections and on Thursday recorded the highest one-day tally of new cases anywhere in the world.
The country has recorded close to 16 million confirmed infections.
There have been 314,835 new coronavirus cases in the past 24 hours, while deaths rose by 2,104.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56851265

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  On 4/21/2021 at 2:52 AM, Lobo said:

Nope, Led Zeppelin and Grateful Dead from middle school 'til my grave.  

I blame Nirvana for using clever marketing, and good but not great music, to convince every other white kid that they too were a tortured soul who had so much pain and passion to share with the world.  Cobain left behind a good catalogue and a cunt of a girlfriend, and he went out on top-kudos to him.  Pearl Jam has long since outlasted their welcome.  I can't remember their last good song.  Nothing against them as musicians, but I hate them for making baggy pants acceptable to girls in the early to mid 90's.  I was just getting into appreciating the female ass, then these fucking assclowns come along and convince everybody from Cindy Crawford to Jennifer Aniston that frumpy pants are the hot new look!  

So I hope that whoever the A&R guys were behind Nirvana and Pearl Jam were, they got Covid-19 (but recovered, but had ample time to regret the folly of their ways).  

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Good thing Britney Spears didn’t come along with the low rise daisy dukes a couple of years later. Oh wait. It was glorious. 

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I give Britney a big portion of credit for helping sculpt my love of the female ass.  To this day, I can only name two songs by her and two cheeks. 

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  On 4/23/2021 at 1:18 PM, Anastasis said:

India’s healthcare infrastructure literally burning down to the ground. 
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/23/india-hospital-fire-coronavirus-record-cases/?outputType=amp

 

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Listened to a reporter on NPR yesterday morning giving an account and she sounded completely wrung out and her voice was wobbling.

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  On 4/23/2021 at 1:52 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

Listened to a reporter on NPR yesterday morning giving an account and she sounded completely wrung out and her voice was wobbling.

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Yeah.....seems like an absolute nightmare, with no real way to abate it.  A billion plus people, a virus running wild -- a perfect storm to create new (and maybe worse) new strains.

Wildfire abatement doesn't just mean you trim the brush around your house  -- you have to get rid of the fuel around all the neighboring houses as well.  We need to be working on a dual strategy: 1) vaccinate the fuck out of everyone here in the US, and 2) manufacture and distribute vaccines for the global market and help them administer them.  

Put out our fire.  Put out our neighbors' fires so they don't spread.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/23/trump-bleach-one-year-484399

 

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One year ago today, President Donald Trump took to the White House briefing room and encouraged his top health officials to study the injection of bleach into the human body as a means of fighting Covid. It was a watershed moment, soon to become iconic in the annals of presidential briefings. It arguably changed the course of political history.

Some ex-Trump aides say they don’t even think about that day as the wildest they experienced — with the conceit that there were simply too many others. But for those there, it was instantly shocking, even by Trump standards. It quickly came to symbolize the chaotic essence of his presidency and his handling of the pandemic. Twelve months later, with the pandemic still lingering and a U.S. death toll nearing 570,000, it still does.

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"For me, it was the craziest and most surreal moment I had ever witnessed in a presidential press conference,” said ABC’s chief Washington correspondent Jon Karl, who was the first reporter at the briefing to question Trump’s musings about bleach.

For weeks, Trump had been giving winding, stream-of-consciousness updates on the state of the Covid fight as it clearly worsened. So when he got up from the Oval Office to brief reporters gathered in the The James S. Brady Press Briefing Room on April 23, there was no expectation that the day’s proceedings would be any different than usual.

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Privately, however, some of his aides were worried. The Covid task force had met earlier that day — as usual, without Trump — to discuss the most recent findings, including the effects of light and humidity on how the virus spreads. Trump was briefed by a small group of aides. But it was clear to some aides that he hadn’t processed all the details before he left to speak to the press.

“A few of us actually tried to stop it in the West Wing hallway,” said one former senior Trump White House official. “I actually argued that President Trump wouldn't have the time to absorb it and understand it. But I lost, and it went how it did.”

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  On 4/23/2021 at 2:33 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

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Sorry if already discussed- What level of the current situation in India and elsewhere is due to pharmaceutical exclusivity?

I seem to remember that there are certain vaccines that are only available in the US due both to our FDA process and concern for the business models (including R&D) of Pfizer, Moderna, etc.

I do know that this was a huge debate during the Clinton administration (in response to global HIV spread).

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Would that apply that Kyle Field where they not only lock arms, they grab each other's hands under their junk.  Safe to say that's considered "not socially distant" although most Aggies I know are very distant from society.  

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  On 4/23/2021 at 8:32 PM, Michael Knight said:

the free market works guys

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Fucking LOVE that idea.  Hope Austin FC does something similar for us -- we've still got two months to go.  So, shit, maybe they'll make most of the stadium wide open if you're vaxxed, and a smaller "socially distant" seating section.

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  On 4/23/2021 at 2:30 PM, MC Fresh Breath said:

I just want to post somewhere how grateful I am to be fully vaccinated.  I started going to the gym this week for the first time in over a year.  I have seen some flagrant disregard for mask protocol (not too many, but one or two is enough to get you upset) but I am comforted by the fact I have been vaccinated.  And today I'll get a well needed haircut also for the first time in over a year. 

Simple things, but knowing I am doing them safely just means everything.  Just a grateful Friday.  

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FWIW, my doctor told me to have zero reservations about going back to the gym after being fully vaccinated.

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  On 4/23/2021 at 11:01 PM, Bookman said:

FWIW, my doctor told me to have zero reservations about going back to the gym after being fully vaccinated.

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If you're fully vaccinated (like 14 days after second shot or after first J&J) then you are good to go. Do what you want.

I'm rapidly approaching the "fuck 'em all" attitude - if the shot is available to you and you don't get it then congratulations you get to be sick.

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  On 4/23/2021 at 11:17 PM, The Dog said:

If you're fully vaccinated (like 14 days after second shot or after first J&J) then you are good to go. Do what you want.

I'm rapidly approaching the "fuck 'em all" attitude - if the shot is available to you and you don't get it then congratulations you get to be sick.

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No, no, no.  You are suppose to be climbed down in your hole. 

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I mentioned my gratitude for being vaccinated yesterday.  Even more so today:

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Oregon’s seen the biggest percentage increase in COVID-19 cases of any state in the country over the past two weeks. Cases have jumped 58% in that time period, putting Oregon just ahead of Kansas and behind territories Guam and Puerto Rico.

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Bolded is where I live.

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Oregon had stopped using the “extreme risk” category because hospital capacity was at a place where state officials felt they didn’t need it. Now that hospitals are filling up, Oregon’s reinstating the “extreme risk” label and the restrictions that come with it.

The state’s most recent risk assessment, issued Tuesday, showed 11 counties — Baker, Clackamas, Columbia, Crook, Deschutes, Jackson, Josephine, Klamath, Linn, Marion and Polk — qualified as “extreme risk.” Oregon isn’t set to update risk levels until May 4, but Brown said Friday she could put several counties in that category as soon as next week.

 

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And the Governor who changed metrics up so she could re-open schools:

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“This is essentially your warning,” Brown said. “Should cases continue to rise, should we reach capacity in our hospital systems, there will be several counties moving into ‘extreme risk.’”

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I know workswithseed doesn't like her because he's on the right wing side of the fence.  I don't like her because she shows an incredible lack of consistency.

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Get ready for the Aggie Flu, bitches!

New Covid variant detected at Texas A&M lab shows signs of antibody resistance and more severe illness in young people
 

Scientists at Texas A&M University’s Global Health Research Complex say they’ve detected a new Covid-19 variant that shows signs of a more contagious strain that causes more severe illness and appears to be resistant to antibodies.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/22/new-covid-variant-detected-at-texas-am-lab-shows-signs-of-antibody-resistance-and-more-severe-illness-in-young-people.html?fbclid=IwAR0XnLWuBRW0LlveIai_i9FQSHZDi27BAK-tT7_rvrV1ePoquKfeamzWu-c

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  On 4/24/2021 at 8:07 PM, Goredho said:

Get ready for the Aggie Flu, bitches!

New Covid variant detected at Texas A&M lab shows signs of antibody resistance and more severe illness in young people
 

Scientists at Texas A&M University’s Global Health Research Complex say they’ve detected a new Covid-19 variant that shows signs of a more contagious strain that causes more severe illness and appears to be resistant to antibodies.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/22/new-covid-variant-detected-at-texas-am-lab-shows-signs-of-antibody-resistance-and-more-severe-illness-in-young-people.html?fbclid=IwAR0XnLWuBRW0LlveIai_i9FQSHZDi27BAK-tT7_rvrV1ePoquKfeamzWu-c

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Sheep to human transmission I'm guessing

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Ted Nugent performed inside a Florida anti-mask supermarket (a supermarket ... snicker) days before he came down with Covid:

https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/04/ted-nugent-performed-inside-florida-anti-mask-supermarket-days-before-saying-he-has-covid-19.html

The owner of the supermarket asked "Why don't we shut the world down because of heart attacks? Why don't we shut cities down because of heart attacks?"

Ted Nugent asked "Why didn't we shut down for Covids one through eighteen?"

This is why people are dying. You can't fix stupidity. 

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  On 4/25/2021 at 12:53 AM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Ted Nugent performed inside a Florida anti-mask supermarket (a supermarket ... snicker) days before he came down with Covid:

https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/04/ted-nugent-performed-inside-florida-anti-mask-supermarket-days-before-saying-he-has-covid-19.html

The owner of the supermarket asked "Why don't we shut the world down because of heart attacks? Why don't we shut cities down because of heart attacks?"

Ted Nugent asked "Why didn't we shut down for Covids one through eighteen?"

This is why people are dying. You can't fix stupidity. 

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Well at least he had a bigger dressing room than the puppets.

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  On 4/25/2021 at 1:53 AM, Okie State said:

Imagine how stupid you would have to be to think it was named 19 because it was the 19th Covid. Mind bottling.

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Imagine how stupid you would be to think that there's an analogy that can be drawn between a disease that can be spread by contact and heart attacks.

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