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  On 4/30/2021 at 8:11 PM, Captainant said:

GOP as king george, eh? Surprising angle to take lol

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I thought it worked because Georgia was named after him and obviously the main joke of "You'll be back".

It's also funny because, like with America, they won't be back and are forever gone due to demographics, but will also keep some vestigial qualities from the GOP always, like Americans have with Anglo/Saxon/English.

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CORONAVIRUS
Coronavirus Vaccine Updates: FDA expected to authorize Pfizer vaccine for ages 12-15 this week
COVID-19 Live Updates, News and Information
By Eyewitness News
Monday, May 3, 2021 7:09AM

NEW YORK (WABC) -- The FDA could expand COVID vaccines for 12-to-15-year-olds as early as this week.

Health experts say the agency is expected to authorize Pfizer's drug for that age group any day now.

The decision would allow middle school students and all high school students to get the shots.

Pfizer says clinical trials showed the vaccine was 100% effective for 12-to-15 year-olds.

If authorized, that age group may start receiving the Pfizer vaccine later this month.

 

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https://abc7ny.com/covid-vaccine-india-coronavirus-charges/10572704/

 

My oldest will turn 12 this summer.  Will have him signed up as soon as I can.

 

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Even Mt. Everest is not immune (no pun) from the politicization of Covid.

https://defector.com/everest-base-camp-is-in-the-midst-of-a-covid-19-outbreak/

 

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Over the past decade, Mount Everest has been beset by a steadily increasing amount of climbers, with a record 382 summit permits awarded in 2019. The pandemic wiped out the numbers for 2020, since peak Everest summit season stretches from mid-April to late May, but this year, tourists have flocked back to the (allegedly) tallest mountain in the world at a rather ominous time. The COVID-19 situation in the Himalayas is worse now than it was one year ago, yet 2021 could be Everest’s busiest year on record. You can probably see where this is going.

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Everest sits astride the Nepal-China border, and since China has closed off access to its side because of the coronavirus, the already-more popular Nepal route has become the only way for climbers to get to the mountain. Nepalese authorities decided to open Everest up for a full spring climbing season this past winter, when COVID cases subsided to their lowest point of the pandemic. Tourism is a critical part of Nepal’s economy, and only 47,000 people visited in 2020 compared to the 12 million who came a year earlier.

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“We have no other options,” Nepal tourism chief Rudra Singh Tamang told the New York Times. “We need to save the mountaineering economy.” Climbers initially had to isolate for seven days upon reaching Kathmandu, though Nepalese authorities relaxed that restriction right as the season began, mandating only a negative test result. That regulation solves some of the worry of infections being imported into the country, since the trek from the capital to Base Camp takes over a week. Even then, climbers told Outside magazine that enforcement of any restrictions was “virtually nonexistent.”

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  On 4/29/2021 at 6:58 PM, jimmyjazz said:

So proud of Texas.  Roughly #36 out of 50 states in vaccine penetration.  I'm beaming. 

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What's funny is Texas's vaccine penetration rate is boosted by the wealthy Mexican nationals who come there for their shot. They'd probably be bottom 10 otherwise.

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  On 5/3/2021 at 3:50 PM, Dahobbs said:

I... uh... I... woah. My brain hurts now. What is RVM?

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Red Voice Media - a utoob channel hosted by someone named Stew Peters. Appears to be for those who think OAN is too liberal for their tastes...

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  On 5/3/2021 at 5:48 PM, NameAlreadyInUse said:
Source on this one?

I saw it in a NYT article this morning. I believe their source on the graphic was the CDC. I’m not sure of the methodology. Some of this is pretty counter intuitive. Similar countries in rural MN and IA are probably going to have similar vaccination rates, for example.
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  On 5/3/2021 at 6:22 PM, gmr548 said:


I saw it in a NYT article this morning. I believe their source on the graphic was the CDC. I’m not sure of the methodology. Some of this is pretty counter intuitive. Similar countries in rural MN and IA are probably going to have similar vaccination rates, for example.

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G Elliot was trashing it this morning based on the methodology.  

 

 

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  On 5/3/2021 at 6:42 PM, washparkhorn said:
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So that map is an estimated map of people that would 'definitely' or 'probably' get the vaccine and the source is the HHS but I couldn't' find a link to the data or date (pretty important giving the shifting of attitudes over the last 6 months)of the data.  

 

 

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  On 5/3/2021 at 7:13 PM, babysdaddy said:

So that map is an estimated map of people that would 'definitely' or 'probably' get the vaccine and the source is the HHS but I couldn't' find a link to the data or date (pretty important giving the shifting of attitudes over the last 6 months)of the data.  

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I did a bit of research (good luck on your own search) and it appears we added a question to the Household Pulse Survey:

Using survey data collected in March, the federal government recently created new estimates of hesitancy for every county and state in the United States. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services modelers used demographic factors and state-level responses of adults who said they would “probably not” or “definitely not” get a Covid-19 vaccine from the Household Pulse Survey, then used Census data to estimate the share of residents who might say that in every county.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/us/vaccine-hesitancy-politics.html

 

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/the-people-who-wont-get-the-vaccine/618765/

 

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Several days ago, the mega-popular podcast host Joe Rogan advised his young listeners to skip the COVID-19 vaccine. “I think you should get vaccinated if you’re vulnerable,” Rogan said. “But if you’re 21 years old, and you say to me, ‘Should I get vaccinated?’ I’ll go, ‘No.’”

Rogan’s comments drew widespread condemnation. But his view is surprisingly common. One in four Americans says they don’t plan to take the COVID-19 vaccine, and about half of Republicans under 50 say they won’t get a vaccine. This partisan vaccine gap is already playing out in the real world. The average number of daily shots has declined 20 percent in the past two weeks, largely because states with larger Trump vote shares are falling off the pace.

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What are they thinking, these vaccine-hesitant, vaccine-resistant, and COVID-apathetic? I wanted to know. So I posted an invitation on Twitter for anybody who wasn’t planning to get vaccinated to email me and explain why. In the past few days, I spoke or corresponded with more than a dozen such people. I told them that I was staunchly pro-vaccine, but this wouldn’t be a takedown piece. I wanted to produce an ethnography of a position I didn’t really understand.

The people I spoke with were all under 50. A few of them self-identified as Republican, and none of them claimed the modern Democratic Party as their political home. Most said they weren’t against all vaccines; they were just a “no” on this vaccine. They were COVID-19 no-vaxxers, not overall anti-vaxxers.

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Many people I spoke with said they trusted their immune system to protect them. “Nobody ever looks at it from the perspective of a guy who’s like me,” Bradley Baca, a 39-year-old truck driver in Colorado, told me. “As an essential worker, my life was never going to change in the pandemic, and I knew I was going to get COVID no matter what. Now I think I’ve got the antibodies, so why would I take a risk on the vaccine?”

Some had already recovered from COVID-19 and considered the vaccine unnecessary. “In December 2020 I tested positive and experienced many symptoms,” said Derek Perrin, a 31-year-old service technician in Connecticut. “Since I have already survived one recorded bout with this virus, I see no reason to take a vaccine that has only been approved for emergency use. I trust my immune system more than this current experiment.”

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Why do these fucking idiots keep saying it's not FDA approved? Would it be going in arms if it wasn't. EUA is still takes FDA approval.

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  On 5/3/2021 at 8:57 PM, DaysOff said:

Why do these fucking idiots keep saying it's not FDA approved? Would it be going in arms if it wasn't. EUA is still takes FDA approval.

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People will latch on to any reason to support their own side. 

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  On 5/3/2021 at 8:57 PM, DaysOff said:

Why do these fucking idiots keep saying it's not FDA approved? Would it be going in arms if it wasn't. EUA is still takes FDA approval.

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What is an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)?
An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA.

Once submitted, FDA will evaluate an EUA request and determine whether the relevant statutory criteria are met, taking into account the totality of the scientific evidence about the vaccine that is available to FDA.

What are the plans for continued monitoring of COVID-19 vaccines authorized by FDA for emergency use?
FDA expects vaccine manufacturers to include in their EUA requests a plan for active follow-up for safety, including deaths, hospitalizations, and other serious or clinically significant adverse events, among individuals who receive the vaccine under an EUA, to inform ongoing benefit-risk determinations to support continuation of the EUA.

FDA also expects manufacturers who receive an EUA to continue their clinical trials to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and pursue licensure (approval).

 

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because it did not go through the standard process, i guess?  this is from the FDA.gov website

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An EUA is technically not an approval.  But that is just a terminology semantical thing imo.

 

Looks like FDA is going to authorize use for PFE shot down to 12 years old within the next week or two.  Got absolutely zero problem with anyone that puts their kid in line for that as soon as it rolls out, but we will be hanging back with our 12 year old until at probably early August at the earliest.  The real inflection point in terms of mortality risk is ~15. 

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Today on Fox:  Biden is now an anti-vaxxer who does not believe in science, while Trump was in support of mask wearing, getting the population vaccinated and followed the science:

 

 

 

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  On 5/3/2021 at 7:28 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/the-people-who-wont-get-the-vaccine/618765/

 

 

 

 

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Sounds like that dude had a conversation with a bunch of trolls and wrote an article about it.

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  On 5/3/2021 at 10:50 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

Today on Fox:  Biden is now an anti-vaxxer who does not believe in science, while Trump was in support of mask wearing, getting the population vaccinated and followed the science:

 

 

 

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It's completely unsurprising how the DT thread is just an echo of whatever the fox news talking points of the day are

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DT is just a revolving door of reverse engineered reasons not to get vaccinated or not wear a mask. Sometimes they use half-truths, parts of scientific studies misused by Fox News, Prager U videos, other random “studies” funded by right wing think tanks. 

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  On 5/3/2021 at 11:10 PM, Neonmoon said:

DT is just a revolving door of reverse engineered reasons not to get vaccinated or not wear a mask. Sometimes they use half-truths, parts of scientific studies misused by Fox News, Prager U videos, other random “studies” funded by right wing think tanks. 

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I listened to a bit of the Buck Sexton Conspiracy Hour the other night.  Holy smokes, the lengths to which alt-righters will go to justify not doing anything that smacks of intelligent behavior is mind-boggling.



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