CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[InkaUtexas 25939]

26 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Not aggy.  

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3192978

When the hell will I learn to not click on links to that site? 

[WhatTheBuck 28781]

36 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

After the market meltdown yesterday, Fox and the Republicans magically came around.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc?

I don’t know. I saw a stat on a news ticker yesterday or today that the market dropped 1,000 points 6 times last year. Someone upthread pointed out that it was also coincidental with the news coming out that all Fox News employees had to show proof of vaccination in order to come to work, a “vaccine passport” situation. Maybe that’s not the cause either but it seems more likely since they’ve been on the side that has consistently railed against the notion of anyone requiring you to show proof of vaccination for any reason.

[pyrohornIII 4814]

23 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

When the hell will I learn to not click on links to that site? 

It's like trying not to rubberneck at an accident, right?

 

[Macanudo 12978]

8 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

It's like trying not to rubberneck at an accident, right?

 

It's the Dr. Pimple Popper of websites.

[Bama Chick 28596]

I ain’t buying it’s just the stock market - almost all of yesterday’s losses were made up today.

Something has the assholes spooked.

Someone needs to see if some of these turds sold or bought a bunch of stocks again.

[GTX Horn 1708]

8 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

It's the Dr. Pimple Popper of websites.

I’m not sure what’s worse, TexAgs or Tirgerdroppings? Both are like a train wreck that’s so bad yet you can’t look away

[Captainant 27667]

well it's not like we're staring down the barrel of stagflation not seen since the 70's, or anything. GOP has been the sand in the gears preventing the government from doing ANYTHING to mitigate it so far.

[Js1 85336]

5 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I ain’t buying it’s just the stock market - almost all of yesterday’s losses were made up today.

Something has the assholes spooked.
 

 

Someone needs to see if some of these turds sold or bought a bunch of stocks again.

 

McConnell had polio as a kid. 

He is speaking from experience.  A vaccine exists - fucking take it. 

[NameAlreadyInUse 5112]

2 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

COVID deaths will not get into electorally significant numbers, so I don't think that is the reasons.  2MM deaths nationwide is less than 5,000 per congressional district.  Half don't vote. Then even if it is 2-1 Rs dying, that's like an 800 vote net gain.   You'd have to really nail the distribution exactly on a close race to matter in even a single congressional election.

I think they are out of an election year and don't feel like they are risking anything by supporting it now.  The delta variant makes for convenient excuse to switch because they can claim it is something different and not a change of position. 

I have been meaning to say this forever, but you have one of my favorite usernames, and the accompanying avatar is the chef's kiss.  It would only be better if you had a sock named Golden God.

Edited July 20, 2021 by NameAlreadyInUse

[lemonlime 5503]

I ain’t buying it’s just the stock market - almost all of yesterday’s losses were made up today.

Something has the assholes spooked.




Someone needs to see if some of these turds sold or bought a bunch of stocks again.

Agreed. The 1 percent made money during the pandemic. And to the extent the other 99% are screwed by this they can blame Biden, AOC, and socialism. Something else is going on.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13512]

The only person that could make some of these mouth breathers change their mind about the vaccine, is Trump. But even then, I don't think it would change many of their minds.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

Nm didn’t see already posted

[Lurch 5930]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[WhatTheBuck 28781]

20 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The only person that could make some of these mouth breathers change their mind about the vaccine, is Trump. But even then, I don't think it would change many of their minds.

Many of them would just assume he was being forced to encourage vaccinations, like those few times when he allowed himself to be seen wearing a mask. 

[Sbbruin 21853]

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

It's the Dr. Pimple Popper of websites.

I went to HS with Dr Pimple Popper (/csb)

[jimmyjazz 45952]

It will be interesting to see a breakdown of vaccinated covid-positive persons by vaccine (J&J, Pfizer, Moderna).

[Biff Tannen 45685]

23 minutes ago, Lurch said:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
 

Dammit.  Not great news for me, but still going to wait for my doctor to give me the go ahead.

 

 

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The new study has not yet been peer reviewed nor published in a scientific journal. But it is consistent with observations that a single dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine — which has a similar architecture to the J.&J. vaccine — shows only about 33 percent efficacy against symptomatic disease caused by the Delta variant.

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“The message that we wanted to give was not that people shouldn’t get the J.&J. vaccine, but we hope that in the future, it will be boosted with either another dose of J.&J. or a boost with Pfizer or Moderna,” said Nathaniel Landau, a virologist at N.Y.U.’s Grossman School of Medicine, who led the study.

Other experts said the results are what they would have expected, because all of the vaccines seem to work better when given in two doses. “I have always thought, and often said, that the J.&J. vaccine is a two-dose vaccine,” said John Moore, a virologist at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York.

Dr. Moore pointed to several studies in monkeys and people that have shown greater efficacy with two doses of the J.&J. vaccine, compared with one dose. He said the new study was particularly credible because it was published by a team with no ties to any of the vaccine manufacturers.

 

[elfenix 34240]

boss just spent a week with people who tested positive over the weekend.  he can't get tested until tomorrow (too soon, i guess), and won't have results until thursday.  still coming into the office to send off a handful of emails that he could do perfectly well from his phone or home. 😡

 

 

[Anastasis 23469]

34 minutes ago, Lurch said:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
 

 

While this information bolsters my statement earlier that if I had received JNJ I'd be looking for an mRNA boost, the below part of that article needs to be pointed out...this does not reflect VE in terms of clinical endpoints, and it does not evaluate a variety of different immunological components. So not definitive, but another data point adding on. Related question, where the fuck is the 2 dose arm of the JNJ study results...assuming the plummeting case numbers extended their timeline?

 

 

Although troubling, the findings result from experiments conducted with blood samples in a laboratory, and may not reflect the vaccine’s performance in the real world. But the conclusions add to evidence that the 13 million people inoculated with the J.&J. vaccine may need to receive a second dose — ideally of one of the mRNA vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, the authors said.

The conclusions are at odds with those from smaller studies published by Johnson & Johnson earlier this month suggesting that a single dose of the vaccine is effective against the variant even eight months after inoculation.

The new study has not yet been peer reviewed nor published in a scientific journal. But it is consistent with observations that a single dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine — which has a similar architecture to the J.&J. vaccine — shows only about 33 percent efficacy against symptomatic disease caused by the Delta variant.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

I don't know if my doc will give that to me after having the J&J in the spring even with this new stuff coming out. Do I go to a pharmacy and say, "I need a new chip"?

[lmao 178]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The only person that could make some of these mouth breathers change their mind about the vaccine, is Trump. But even then, I don't think it would change many of their minds.

If Trump would have come out of the gate with mandatory lockdowns, masking, vaccines, etc., do you think he would have received backlash from his opposition?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33870]

pick a color:
 

[Don Johnson 4753]

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

boss just spent a week with people who tested positive over the weekend.  he can't get tested until tomorrow (too soon, i guess), and won't have results until thursday.  still coming into the office to send off a handful of emails that he could do perfectly well from his phone or home. 😡

 

 

Isn’t that in line with what the CDC recommends as long as you are vaccinated and show no symptoms?

[Don Johnson 4753]

3 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

Isn’t that in line with what the CDC recommends as long as you are vaccinated and show no symptoms?

Updated 4 days ago  

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
 

Fully vaccinated people can:

• Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
• Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel and from self-quarantine after travel
• Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
• Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
• Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic

Edited July 21, 2021 by Don Johnson

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Not a great sign

[Sawbonz 27561]

13 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

 

[Francisco 2.0 32393]

3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The only person that could make some of these mouth breathers change their mind about the vaccine, is Trump. But even then, I don't think it would change many of their minds.

 

You don't say.

 

 

 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

The rural counties of Texas between Abilene and Austin are on a not ideal upward trajectory. While not densely populated, they have some of the worst vaccination rates.

Edited July 21, 2021 by Mrs Whiggins
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[bolverk 29672]

58 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The rural counties of Texas between Abilene and Austin are on a not ideal upward trajectory. While not densely populated, they have some of the worst vaccination rates.

This map shows vaccination maps for 12+ yrs. Red (Seminole/Gaines Co.) has by far the lowest at 19%. There's a large Mennonite population there. Highlighted (Big Spring/Howard Co.) is where I'm heading tomorrow for my dad's memorial service. They're at 30% for 12+.

Here's the map for 65+ vaccination rates. Lightest shade means less than 60% of seniors are vaxxed. This one is obviously the bigger concern.

 

 

Edited July 21, 2021 by bolverk

[Anastasis 23469]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

pick a color:
 

Is this modeling the hospitalization rates as we take on all the dumbfucks from around the state or just ATX residents. Cause I call bullshit on that status quo estimate if the latter is the case. Links would help. 

[Anastasis 23469]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

 

Two months too late dipshits. 

[Anastasis 23469]

Folks may be able to get one dose in, and they definitely should if they have not already, but they have missed peak immunization before delta ass fucks to them. 

[bolverk 29672]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Folks may be able to get one dose in, and they definitely should if they have not already, but they have missed peak immunization before delta ass fucks to them. 

East and West Texas seniors, I fear, are gonna get steamrolled. Like I said last night, my 80-year-old mom told me she thinks only about half of her social group (all old) refuse to get vaccinated, which aligns with the 52% figure given on the map up above. It's shear madness. I'm honestly hoping no one shows up for the damn memorial service, because I don't want to somehow be culpable if anyone gets sick and dies from attending. I'm still waiting to hear back on the funeral home and church at least having a box of masks outside the doors or maybe a sign saying the family kindly asks you to mask up before entering.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

21 minutes ago, bolverk said:

This map shows vaccination maps for 12+ yrs. Red (Seminole/Gaines Co.) has by the lowest at 19%. There's a large Mennonite population there. Highlighted (Big Spring/Howard Co.) is where I'm heading for tomorrow for my dad's memorial service. They're at 30% for 12+.

I am sorry about your dad.

There aren’t a lot of medical facilities throughout the middle and west and southwest of Temple/Abilene/Waco.

[Woland 733]

This map shows vaccination maps for 12+ yrs. Red (Seminole/Gaines Co.) has by far the lowest at 19%. There's a large Mennonite population there. Highlighted (Big Spring/Howard Co.) is where I'm heading tomorrow for my dad's memorial service. They're at 30% for 12+.

Here's the map for 65+ vaccination rates. Lightest shade means less than 60% of seniors are vaxxed. This one is obviously the bigger concern.

 
 

For a county led by conservative MAGA assholes, Collin has come through on the vaccination front.

[Anastasis 23469]

4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

East and West Texas seniors, I fear, are gonna get steamrolled. Like I said last night, my 80-year-old mom told me she thinks only about half of her social group (all old) refuse to get vaccinated, which aligns with the 52% figure given on the map up above. It's shear madness. I'm honestly hoping no one shows up for the damn memorial service, because I don't want to somehow be culpable if anyone gets sick and dies from attending. I'm still waiting to hear back on the funeral home and church at least having a box of masks outside the doors or maybe a sign saying the family kindly asks you to mask up before entering.

I've been on this position for a while now, but I think that Delta is going to rip through the unvaccinated.  If you are at high risk (age, morbid obesity, whatever) and unvaccinated, I think you are rolling the dice at odds I would not be comfortable with. Sorry about your dad man.  It's just shit piled on shit that your ability to memorialize him is undermined by all this. 

[BrickHorn 18234]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

You reap what you sow, assholes. Or in this case, we’re all reaping what you sowed. Assholes.

[safe sex 11727]

4 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

I went to HS with Dr Pimple Popper (/csb)

She fucking sucks.

[Captainant 27667]

18 minutes ago, bolverk said:

East and West Texas seniors, I fear, are gonna get steamrolled. Like I said last night, my 80-year-old mom told me she thinks only about half of her social group (all old) refuse to get vaccinated, which aligns with the 52% figure given on the map up above. It's shear madness. I'm honestly hoping no one shows up for the damn memorial service, because I don't want to somehow be culpable if anyone gets sick and dies from attending. I'm still waiting to hear back on the funeral home and church at least having a box of masks outside the doors or maybe a sign saying the family kindly asks you to mask up before entering.

I'm in a similar situation. My dad passed suddenly last Wednesday morning and we're having his memorial this weekend. So far 30 have RSVP'd and it's probably going to be closer to 45 in total attending I'd guess. My 86yo grandma can't get vaccinated because of her infusion schedule, but she'll be goddamned if she doesn't go to her son in laws funeral. 

It's just another layer to the anxiety and tension of just trying to get through it all. 

I'm sorry for your loss

[bolverk 29672]

13 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I am sorry about your dad.

There aren’t a lot of medical facilities throughout the middle and west and southwest of Temple/Abilene/Waco.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Once in the hospital, he actually got pretty good care. He just was too stubborn to go in and waited a little too late, I think. Plus, his primary care physician was a quack and had prescribed him HCQ. He was in for about a month from Thanksgiving until just after December. My sister, who's a pediatric PA up in Denver, dropped everything and checked in frequently with his doctors and nurses. She felt pretty confident that they were doing a good job based on what she'd been seeing up in Denver and frequently consulting with her doctor friends up there.

Btw, Lubbock is pretty much the medical center for most of West Texas. They've got a couple of big hospitals plus the Texas Tech Health Science Center.

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

It's just shit piled on shit that your ability to memorialize him is undermined by all this. 

Yeah, it sucks. My sister, niece who worked on a Denver Covid hospital wing throughout her first year working in healthcare, and I are going to be pretty distracted looking around at a bunch of unvaxxed, unmasked olds throughout the whole damn thing. We waited for months as a precaution. My dad was a deacon at their church, really active in the Masons, and a former teacher in the only high school in town, so pretty much everyone over a certain age knows him there.

[Anastasis 23469]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

I'm in a similar situation. My dad passed suddenly last Wednesday morning and we're having his memorial this weekend. So far 30 have RSVP'd and it's probably going to be closer to 45 in total attending I'd guess. My 86yo grandma can't get vaccinated because of her infusion schedule, but she'll be goddamned if she doesn't go to her son in laws funeral. 

It's just another layer to the anxiety and tension of just trying to get through it all. 

I'm sorry for your loss

Sorry to hear that Ant. 

[bolverk 29672]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

I'm in a similar situation. My dad passed suddenly last Wednesday morning and we're having his memorial this weekend. So far 30 have RSVP'd and it's probably going to be closer to 45 in total attending I'd guess. My 86yo grandma can't get vaccinated because of her infusion schedule, but she'll be goddamned if she doesn't go to her son in laws funeral. 

It's just another layer to the anxiety and tension of just trying to get through it all. 

I'm sorry for your loss

Fuck. I'm really sorry to hear that. You've got my deepest condolences about your dad. There's been so much loss over the last year.

[bolverk 29672]

23 minutes ago, Woland said:

For a county led by conservative MAGA assholes, Collin has come through on the vaccination front.

The concentration of wealthier, educated suburbanites plays a big role in that I'm sure.

[lmao 178]

5 hours ago, Lurch said:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
 

NYT article three weeks ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/health/coronavirus-johnson-vaccine-delta.html

[Anastasis 23469]

17 minutes ago, lmao said:

NYT article three weeks ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/health/coronavirus-johnson-vaccine-delta.html

 

[gmr548 16580]

47 minutes ago, Woland said:

For a county led by conservative MAGA assholes, Collin has come through on the vaccination front.

Education is more predictive of vaccination than partisanship or race.

[gmr548 16580]

2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

 

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

 

 

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

You don't say.

 

 

 

 

Corporate overlords and staring down their base bearing the brunt of delta

[Anastasis 23469]

As we start to more broadly consider that boosters may be necessary, and the global vax situation is entirely different than in the first world, we need to consider how to optimize strategy in context of supply constraints again. I know that certain posters will not be able to get past regulatory dogmatism, but I hope that at this point we can just shelf some of that narrow minded bullshit:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01893-0

Quarter-dose of Moderna COVID vaccine still rouses a big immune response

Results hint that dose stretching could help to address the world’s acute vaccine shortage.

 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Anastasis

[Longhorn_Fan68 33870]

balls: https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/austin-texas-covid-coronavirus-stage-4-stage-3/269-df69d2dd-fbc8-4ddd-9c19-cfdbe446ffe2