CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[heso 2834]

49 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I'm sorry they got sick, but I'm not sure how much guilt I should carry.
 

Zero. She’s a bartender. For a year and a half bars have been proven to be one of the most significant spreading locations for the virus. Spending any amount of time in a bar unvaccinated is actively choosing to get the virus. 

There’s a reason why all of the top 22 outbreak clusters are college campuses. A bunch of people packed together closely and talking loudly is the ideal location for it to spread. 

Edited August 5, 2021 by heso

[Horn Dog 10062]

16 hours ago, Goredho said:

This poor fucking kid.  Nothing to say, other than I wish he had parents that were up to the responsibility of having a child.

"I am very saddened to report that H Scott Apley passed away last night at about 3 am. He leaves behind his wife, Melissa, who is COVID positive, as well as their infant son Reid. Your donations are greatly appreciated and will help the family as they get through this difficult period."

Now all us socialists get to support his widow and son.

[Homercles 10206]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

We now interrupt this thread with a public service accouncement for those still hustling out here on these streets.
 

 

Does Arkansas have a Hamsterdam…”I’m an entrepreneur, a hustler…I gotta sell things”

[Bama Chick 28596]

“I sell things”.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20695]

 

[Serak The Preparer 3436]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

LOL.  You know it's true kemosabe. 

I would certainly posit that the large majority of posters in this forum would have a blanket reaction that just about any output of the Trump administration should be viewed with skeptical (at best) eyes. I would further posit that that the same majority of posters are less likely to cast that same skepticism to any output of the Biden administration.

You seem to be implying that is some sort of gotcha. If the claim is that there is some team politics coloring this difference, I would agree. But, would you agree that there is a significant baseline difference in overall competence and corruption between the two administrations that would also explain the different reactions?

[gmr548 16645]

We now interrupt this thread with a public service accouncement for those still hustling out here on these streets.
 
 

That’ll do wonders at reaching the four percent of Arkansas residents with broadband

[Anastasis 23517]

15 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

If the claim is that there is some team politics coloring this difference, I would agree. But, would you agree that there is a significant baseline difference in overall competence and corruption between the two administrations that would also explain the different reactions?

I think that we are in agreement then.

WRT the FDA's assessment of a COVID vaccine under each admin, and differences in competence?  No, not really a big difference imo.  

If you recall the regulatory history, the FDA tied up PFE with needless negotiation around sample size under Trump, thus delaying the read out of the data.  They are doing the same thing again under Biden with the pediatric study. Competence wrt moving things quickly in the setting of a global pandemic appears relatively stable to me. 

Edited August 5, 2021 by Anastasis

[Biff Tannen 45784]

2 hours ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I had a breakthrough infection i posted about somewhere above and it lasted about 2 weeks. Mostly just a cough, short breath, and requiring a lot of sleep. Glad I was vaccinated, I can't imagine getting hit with that at full force. I've now had 3 negative tests, so its behind me.

The other day I learned a friend had canceled a vacation with no explanation why. I texted her and said I heard the news and hoped she's OK. Her response was that she and her boyfriend were sick with COVID and they blame me, im the only person they know who had it.

I asked if they were vaccinated. She unloads that "everybody is attacking us for not being vaccinated and its really not fair!" Says they were being extra careful wearing masks etc. Her boyfriend was the kind who never wore his mask during the mandate, or it was under his nose like an idiot if he did. She's a bartender.

I'm sorry they got sick, but I'm not sure how much guilt I should carry.

Meanwhile I get into it with the guy who runs the pizza shop next door, who's a friend. Its a Brazilian family. He tells me he moved to this country for freedom and he doesn't need the government telling him what to do, etc. I tell him he has a responsibility to our neighbors who are buying prepared food from him, but he says its ok cause he always wears his mask when he's in the restaurant.

Says they are thinking about moving to Florida where there's more freedom. During the election it was Texas they were thinking about moving to for the same reason. Obviously they were pro-Trump.

This is in San Francisco where vaccination rates are above 70%. Now we're back to a fucking mask mandate.

I was around my in laws and their unvaccinated kids last weekend.  I hope they don't get it, but I feel zero guilt.  I am vaccinated, doubly so, and have done everything I've been supposed to be doing for a year and a half.  

[4th&Five 41724]

 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

1 hour ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I had a breakthrough infection i posted about somewhere above and it lasted about 2 weeks. Mostly just a cough, short breath, and requiring a lot of sleep. Glad I was vaccinated, I can't imagine getting hit with that at full force. I've now had 3 negative tests, so its behind me.

The other day I learned a friend had canceled a vacation with no explanation why. I texted her and said I heard the news and hoped she's OK. Her response was that she and her boyfriend were sick with COVID and they blame me, im the only person they know who had it.

I asked if they were vaccinated. She unloads that "everybody is attacking us for not being vaccinated and its really not fair!" Says they were being extra careful wearing masks etc. Her boyfriend was the kind who never wore his mask during the mandate, or it was under his nose like an idiot if he did. She's a bartender.

I'm sorry they got sick, but I'm not sure how much guilt I should carry.

Meanwhile I get into it with the guy who runs the pizza shop next door, who's a friend. Its a Brazilian family. He tells me he moved to this country for freedom and he doesn't need the government telling him what to do, etc. I tell him he has a responsibility to our neighbors who are buying prepared food from him, but he says its ok cause he always wears his mask when he's in the restaurant.

Says they are thinking about moving to Florida where there's more freedom. During the election it was Texas they were thinking about moving to for the same reason. Obviously they were pro-Trump.

This is in San Francisco where vaccination rates are above 70%. Now we're back to a fucking mask mandate.

I'm struggling to figure why you should feel any inkling of guilt. Blaming someone else for giving you covid is dumb as shit in general, doubly so if the someone else is vaccinated, eleventy billionly so if they're vaccinated and you're not. 

[C-Man 27411]

1 hour ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I had a breakthrough infection i posted about somewhere above and it lasted about 2 weeks. Mostly just a cough, short breath, and requiring a lot of sleep. Glad I was vaccinated, I can't imagine getting hit with that at full force. I've now had 3 negative tests, so its behind me.

The other day I learned a friend had canceled a vacation with no explanation why. I texted her and said I heard the news and hoped she's OK. Her response was that she and her boyfriend were sick with COVID and they blame me, im the only person they know who had it.

I asked if they were vaccinated. She unloads that "everybody is attacking us for not being vaccinated and its really not fair!" Says they were being extra careful wearing masks etc. Her boyfriend was the kind who never wore his mask during the mandate, or it was under his nose like an idiot if he did. She's a bartender.

I'm sorry they got sick, but I'm not sure how much guilt I should carry.

Meanwhile I get into it with the guy who runs the pizza shop next door, who's a friend. Its a Brazilian family. He tells me he moved to this country for freedom and he doesn't need the government telling him what to do, etc. I tell him he has a responsibility to our neighbors who are buying prepared food from him, but he says its ok cause he always wears his mask when he's in the restaurant.

Says they are thinking about moving to Florida where there's more freedom. During the election it was Texas they were thinking about moving to for the same reason. Obviously they were pro-Trump.

This is in San Francisco where vaccination rates are above 70%. Now we're back to a fucking mask mandate.

Seriously, though, you shouldn't feel one single bit of guilt regarding the bartender. This is on her and her alone. Fuck her if she can't figure that out.

Oh, and Brazilian pizza sounds gross. You're better off if he heads to the land of DeSantis and Dotard.

[Brisketexan 105690]

Seriously, though, you shouldn't feel one single bit of guilt regarding the bartender. This is on her and her alone. Fuck her if she can't figure that out.
Oh, and Brazilian pizza sounds gross. You're better off if he heads to the land of DeSantis and Dotard.

Brazilian pizza? What, does it just have a narrow strip of toppings down the middle of each slice?

[Chewbacca 7807]

15 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

So I just tested positive. For those not keeping score at home, I got J&J in March and a supplemental Pfizer last Monday. Started feeling off on Friday (after extremely mild post-vaccine reaction) and realized I couldn’t smell or taste anything. 
 

Two vaccines and delta (I’m assuming) don’t give a fuck. Probably still to early for Pfizer to have any effect, but still. 
 

Have felt achy and sinus pressure for a few days, but nothing too bad. Add me to the case pile. Hopefully not the hospital or body pile. 

I wonder how many mild cases are circulating through vaxxed people right now.  Probably a lot more than the tests suggest.  Wife and I came down with something last week.  Felt like a mild cold.  Fatigue and runny nose for both of us.  We just stayed at home for several days until it passed - we were both over it in 72 hours.  Now I'm thinking we should have gotten tested.  I don't think it was COVID, but it could have been.  Would be good to know.

Edited August 5, 2021 by Chewbacca

[AnotherUTFan 9843]

Its a normal pizza shop, actually a pretty good one. The family that runs it happen to be from Brazil. They do have a Brazilian food section on the menu that's hit or miss, but thebpizzas are solid.

[Goredho 17516]

2 hours ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I had a breakthrough infection i posted about somewhere above and it lasted about 2 weeks. Mostly just a cough, short breath, and requiring a lot of sleep. Glad I was vaccinated, I can't imagine getting hit with that at full force. I've now had 3 negative tests, so its behind me.

The other day I learned a friend had canceled a vacation with no explanation why. I texted her and said I heard the news and hoped she's OK. Her response was that she and her boyfriend were sick with COVID and they blame me, im the only person they know who had it.

I asked if they were vaccinated. She unloads that "everybody is attacking us for not being vaccinated and its really not fair!" Says they were being extra careful wearing masks etc. Her boyfriend was the kind who never wore his mask during the mandate, or it was under his nose like an idiot if he did. She's a bartender.

I'm sorry they got sick, but I'm not sure how much guilt I should carry.

Meanwhile I get into it with the guy who runs the pizza shop next door, who's a friend. Its a Brazilian family. He tells me he moved to this country for freedom and he doesn't need the government telling him what to do, etc. I tell him he has a responsibility to our neighbors who are buying prepared food from him, but he says its ok cause he always wears his mask when he's in the restaurant.

Says they are thinking about moving to Florida where there's more freedom. During the election it was Texas they were thinking about moving to for the same reason. Obviously they were pro-Trump.

This is in San Francisco where vaccination rates are above 70%. Now we're back to a fucking mask mandate.

As I see it, you are just doing the Lord's work in helping the unvaccinated herd achieve immunity.

[Biff Tannen 45784]

My anti-vaxx sister just told me not to worry because she knows over 75 people that have had Covid and they were all fine. Who the fuck knows that many people that have had Covid!?!  Either a) these are Facebook “friends” or b) she just hangs out with a ton of other anti-vaxxers that have spread this shit to god knows how many others. 

[Chewbacca 7807]

2 hours ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I had a breakthrough infection i posted about somewhere above and it lasted about 2 weeks. Mostly just a cough, short breath, and requiring a lot of sleep. Glad I was vaccinated, I can't imagine getting hit with that at full force. I've now had 3 negative tests, so its behind me.

The other day I learned a friend had canceled a vacation with no explanation why. I texted her and said I heard the news and hoped she's OK. Her response was that she and her boyfriend were sick with COVID and they blame me, im the only person they know who had it.

I asked if they were vaccinated. She unloads that "everybody is attacking us for not being vaccinated and its really not fair!" Says they were being extra careful wearing masks etc. Her boyfriend was the kind who never wore his mask during the mandate, or it was under his nose like an idiot if he did. She's a bartender.

I'm sorry they got sick, but I'm not sure how much guilt I should carry.

Meanwhile I get into it with the guy who runs the pizza shop next door, who's a friend. Its a Brazilian family. He tells me he moved to this country for freedom and he doesn't need the government telling him what to do, etc. I tell him he has a responsibility to our neighbors who are buying prepared food from him, but he says its ok cause he always wears his mask when he's in the restaurant.

Says they are thinking about moving to Florida where there's more freedom. During the election it was Texas they were thinking about moving to for the same reason. Obviously they were pro-Trump.

This is in San Francisco where vaccination rates are above 70%. Now we're back to a fucking mask mandate.

If an unvaxxed person blamed me for getting COVID I might start laughing in their face.   You chose to remain unvaccinated.  I had nothing to do with that decision.

[Anastasis 23517]

21 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Brazilian pizza? What, does it just have a narrow strip of toppings down the middle of each slice?

No toppings at all, and a nice firm and browned undercarriage. 

[Satchel 6949]

4 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Yeah, I know dumb people can graduate from the best of colleges.  When I read "Cambridge-educated"  I thought perhaps that type of person would have a general understanding of how 'the jab' gave you antibodies.  That's the entire purpose of 'the jab' right?  And then 'vlogging' your mistake for the world to see going all the way to death being wrong.  At age 58.  Well, maybe that part helps someone.  Maybe.

There were Ivy League educated people who died along side David Koresh at New Mount Carmel.

[Biff Tannen 45784]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

No toppings at all, and a nice firm and browned undercarriage. 

And waxed. 

[StassneyHorn 6703]

Brazilian pizza is known for hiding sausage 

[Gatorubet 30437]

Now all us socialists get to support his widow and son.

They are doing a GoFundMe, so they will grift fellow idiot stick conservatives to pay his spouse and spawn for his stupidity.

“Mommy, how did daddy die? “

“Baby, God needed a fat, lying loser to spoon with Rush Limbaugh for eternity, so daddy volunteered. “

[We’reTexas 1473]

2 hours ago, AnotherUTFan said:

No, I had J&J.

SF General is now offering Moderna or Pfizer boosters to anybody who had the J&J. I have to wait a month since I've been positive.

I’m driving down to get my booster tomorrow. Word is it’s running through bars and restaurant staffs all over town. 

[gmr548 16645]

I’m driving down to get my booster tomorrow. Word is it’s running through bars and restaurant staffs all over town. 

Might crack the top ten list of infectious diseases spread in the restaurant industry

[AnotherUTFan 9843]

I’m driving down to get my booster tomorrow. Word is it’s running through bars and restaurant staffs all over town. 

That would jive with my ancidotal evidence. I know of one bar that shut down for a few days recently because of an outbreak. Most bars here (SF) are now requiring evidence of vaccine to enter, including the one I live above. That's one of the ones where the unvaccinated friend who's sick and blamed me works.

BTW, the owner of this bar is a close friend of mine, family really. She knew about all this before I did and was pissed to learn she had an unvaccinated person on staff putting her customers and 8yo daughter at risk. She told me that I carry zero blame.


My stance since the vax has been widely available has been that ill still wear a mask when I go into places that people have to enter, even if they are in a group that can't vaccinate (there are a few such groups). Stores, barber shop, public transit, laundry, etc. But I'm not wearing one where it's a luxury. If your in a bar or restaurant and unvaccinated, that's on you. Still, it sucks when it happens to a close friend. I really feel bad if I had a part in her getting sick, even if she was the one being an idiot.

On a side note, most people here are fine with being asked for proof of vaccination. There was worry that there would be blowback, but most people actually say "thank you" when asked for proof. One guy even said thank you and that he'd be happy to return after he gets his 2nd dose as he was denied entry.

[Horn Dogg 4234]

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Let's see more of the mustang. 

Check out the comment about the mustang by “foedoughgenic”

 

[NameAlreadyInUse 5139]

53 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

They are doing a GoFundMe, so they will grift fellow idiot stick conservatives to pay his spouse and spawn for his stupidity.

“Mommy, how did daddy die? “

“Baby, God needed a fat, lying loser to spoon with Rush Limbaugh for eternity, so daddy volunteered. “

A GoFundMe or a GoFuckYourself?  Because when it comes to that guy I'm picking the latter.

Edited August 5, 2021 by NameAlreadyInUse

[Captainant 28003]

Lol does @ChickenSandwich work for the State of Florida or something? State refuses to give daily coronavirus data to Seminole County

Quote

 

After taking the county's COVID-19 dashboard down when cases dropped, Seminole County emergency management leaders have put it back up, now that cases are increasing.   

A big part of Seminole County’s emergency management operation is ensuring county residents have easy access to coronavirus data.

However, leaders say that’s become more complicated, because the state has refused to give them daily coronavirus data like they did in the past. 

Instead, they’re having to get the case data from the CDC, and they’re having to call area hospitals for updates about COVID-19 hospitalizations.  

Seminole County Emergency Manager Alan Harris said it is more difficult now, but their goal is to make sure everyone has accurate information about the pandemic.   

“We want to be as transparent as possible, and unfortunately, Tallahassee has said they’re not going to provide that daily data," he said. "So we’re trying to make sure the community has the information they need to make appropriate decisions." 

Harris said he isn't sure why the state is reluctant to share its data with his office.    

Spectrum News reached out to Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office to ask why the state has refused to send daily data to the county but have not yet heard back.  

 

'member when DT was all gung-ho that FLURDAH was the model to follow in how we handle COVID? I 'member.

[RDCanecutter 26570]

2 hours ago, AnotherUTFan said:

Its a normal pizza shop, actually a pretty good one. The family that runs it happen to be from Brazil. They do have a Brazilian food section on the menu that's hit or miss, but thebpizzas are solid.

I have a similar Brazilian pizza joint down the street. I wonder if I walk into the correct storeroom, if I'd pop back out in the one in San Francisco?

[We’reTexas 1473]

1 hour ago, AnotherUTFan said:

That would jive with my ancidotal evidence. I know of one bar that shut down for a few days recently because of an outbreak. Most bars here (SF) are now requiring evidence of vaccine to enter, including the one I live above. That's one of the ones where the unvaccinated friend who's sick and blamed me works.

BTW, the owner of this bar is a close friend of mine, family really. She knew about all this before I did and was pissed to learn she had an unvaccinated person on staff putting her customers and 8yo daughter at risk. She told me that I carry zero blame.


My stance since the vax has been widely available has been that ill still wear a mask when I go into places that people have to enter, even if they are in a group that can't vaccinate (there are a few such groups). Stores, barber shop, public transit, laundry, etc. But I'm not wearing one where it's a luxury. If your in a bar or restaurant and unvaccinated, that's on you. Still, it sucks when it happens to a close friend. I really feel bad if I had a part in her getting sick, even if she was the one being an idiot.

On a side note, most people here are fine with being asked for proof of vaccination. There was worry that there would be blowback, but most people actually say "thank you" when asked for proof. One guy even said thank you and that he'd be happy to return after he gets his 2nd dose as he was denied entry.

I support the city’s proposed vax requirement (I live in SF too). The mask mandate is pointless without capacity requirements - we’re back in that absurd early June phase where folks wear there masks from the door to the table/bar and promptly toss their masks aside as they sit down. 

[RDCanecutter 26570]

1 hour ago, AnotherUTFan said:

That would jive with my ancidotal evidence. I know of one bar that shut down for a few days recently because of an outbreak. Most bars here (SF) are now requiring evidence of vaccine to enter, including the one I live above. That's one of the ones where the unvaccinated friend who's sick and blamed me works.

BTW, the owner of this bar is a close friend of mine, family really. She knew about all this before I did and was pissed to learn she had an unvaccinated person on staff putting her customers and 8yo daughter at risk. She told me that I carry zero blame.


My stance since the vax has been widely available has been that ill still wear a mask when I go into places that people have to enter, even if they are in a group that can't vaccinate (there are a few such groups). Stores, barber shop, public transit, laundry, etc. But I'm not wearing one where it's a luxury. If your in a bar or restaurant and unvaccinated, that's on you. Still, it sucks when it happens to a close friend. I really feel bad if I had a part in her getting sick, even if she was the one being an idiot.

On a side note, most people here are fine with being asked for proof of vaccination. There was worry that there would be blowback, but most people actually say "thank you" when asked for proof. One guy even said thank you and that he'd be happy to return after he gets his 2nd dose as he was denied entry.

You banged the bartender, didn't you.

[HenryJames 66361]

 

[Bama Llama 1476]

 

"I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction."

Clarence Darrow

[Longhorn_Fan68 33969]

4 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

 

"I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction."

Clarence Darrow

that wasn't Twain?

[washparkhorn 9939]

7 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

The fucking dumb fuck on the right is going to kill a lot of kids with his fucking bullshit. 

The bimbo in the middle is a fucking Mata Hari. 

[Bama Llama 1476]

I thought it was, but not according to The Atlantic.  I guess they know what myths they are exploding.  Kind of disappointing, and I thought it was "I have never wished anyone dead, etc."  Learn something every day. Too bad Mr. Apley didn't.

[Royalfan5 2356]

I’ve noticed today’s talking point to circulate is Mike Rowe peddling the you can’t look down on the unvaxxed about it because it’ll hurt the salt of the earths feelings, and then you’ll never get them to take it

[Captainant 28003]

2 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

I’ve noticed today’s talking point to circulate is Mike Rowe peddling the you can’t look down on the unvaxxed about it because it’ll hurt the salt of the earths feelings, and then you’ll never get them to take it

It's the exact same argument that we heard about trying to reach trumpers. Those types of people are zero compromise people. Fuck em, they won't do anything but hold society back or even regress what progress we've realized. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

The Atlantic promotes center to center-right viewpoints on the state of the world.

Learn about each author and then read works for me. 

The Atlantic assumes its audience - knows - its authors.  

Fantastic publication. Great writing. 

[Captainant 28003]

Also, lulz:

House lawmaker suing Pelosi over mask rule says he has COVID

Rep. Ralph Norman, one of the three congressional Republicans suing Speaker Nancy Pelosi over fines for not wearing masks during a vote on the U.S. House floor, has contracted a breakthrough case of COVID-19, the second member of South Carolina's delegation to do so.

[washparkhorn 9939]

35 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

I thought it was, but not according to The Atlantic.  I guess they know what myths they are exploding.  Kind of disappointing, and I thought it was "I have never wished anyone dead, etc."  Learn something every day. Too bad Mr. Apley didn't.

It sounds like Twain. He has some damn good mottos. 

[Anastasis 23517]

CDC has been perpetually behind the curve during this course of this pandemic. 
 

 

 

[staboner 5017]

pretty sure you guys in the US are getting the best of it IMO. get to herd, get quick vaccine access, dumb ones get it, and the beat rolls on. 

down here in Oz we have limited vaccine access, dumb ones not getting it (covid that is), and we aren't anywhere close to herd immunity because of it. as an example Melbourne went into a snap lockdown - a real lockdown btw - with 2 new cases yesterday. TWO. cases came up at 3pm - city shut down at 8pm.

the Double Boomers who run this country are protecting their 80 year old mothers proper. and the rest of us are some kind of social experiment. sadly the average aussie is the most docile biped i have ever run across. c'est la vie

ya'll homies be cool now. 

Edited August 5, 2021 by staboner

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2687]

everything's a month or more away....no bueno 

[HenryJames 66361]

 

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/oyna7l/texas_radio_host_makes_fun_of_mask_wearing_covid/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

 

If I knew how to easily/quickly embed all those pics I would.

Edited August 5, 2021 by MC Fresh Breath

[HenryJames 66361]

 

[Post Oak 20357]

11 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

CDC has been perpetually behind the curve during this course of this pandemic. 
 

 

 

They've been reactive since the opening tip.

[washparkhorn 9939]

16 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

They've been reactive since the opening tip.

phrasing.

Edited August 5, 2021 by washparkhorn